Important questions
Bruce Remick
on the face of each First Spouse gold coin design, yet this apparently is
considered impractical on the presidential dollar coins? Doesn't the Mint
know by now that most collectors like to see the traditional year of issue
on the obverse of their coins, especially collectors who enjoy inserting
coins in albums? Otherwise, why bother putting dates on Mint-issued bullion
coins, if not to increase sales and interest? These questions are for the
gentleman there in the second row.
How might you depict the Grand Ganyon National Park in raised relief on
a quarter? The lady in the back, please.
oly
Go to the Monnaie de Paris (French Mint) website. They have a Grand
Canyon coin for sale. The design is not bad.
oly
Bruce Remick
"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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oly
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I went there but couldn't find a Grand Canyon piece among the many items
they had for sale. They do offer some very attractive coins, but most were
medallic in appearance-- nothing like what I would expect to see with our
almost two-dimensional quarters.
Mr. Jaggers
> Why has it been so easy to incorporate the year, IGWT, Liberty,
> and EPU on the face of each First Spouse gold coin design, yet this
> apparently is considered impractical on the presidential dollar
> coins? Doesn't the Mint know by now that most collectors like to
> see the traditional year of issue on the obverse of their coins,
> especially collectors who enjoy inserting coins in albums? Otherwise, why
> bother putting dates on Mint-issued bullion coins, if
> not to increase sales and interest? These questions are for the
> gentleman there in the second row.
I agree, I should think that the date and mintmark could certainly be
incorporated without distress. After all, we're talking pedestrian
circulating coin design that hardly anyone pays attention to anyway. It's
often the premium commem coin designs that historically have liberties taken
with them. For example, the Missouri half dollar lacks LIBERTY, IGWT, and
EPU all, and is technically undated to boot. Even though we all know that
the coin was indeed struck in 1921, the 1921 shown on the coin is the
centennial date of Missouri statehood.
James
Lorrie S.
wondering where their next meal is coming from..........NEXT!
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Bruce Remick
"Lorrie S." <lorri...@googly.org> wrote in message
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> Wow, those are important questions. Even more important than someone
> wondering where their next meal is coming from..........NEXT!
I know where my next meal is coming from. How about you? Anyone who DOES
have meal problems probably won't be playing around with a computer and
looking at these RCC posts. Got any more profound analysis to contribute
here?
note.boy
I'm not the lady in the back but in answer to your question, with great
difficulty. Billy
oly
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message
I don't know if these links work, but the coin I referred to isn't
hard to find:
UNESCO: Grand Canyon
oly
Sally Crimson
here?
Yes, according to my analysis, 3 dollar gold pieces will double in value
between now and 2015.
note.boy
It does not have to worry where its next meal is coming from as you are
feeding the troll, why? Billy
Bruce Remick
UNESCO: Grand Canyon
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Yes, it worked. A nice looking piece, but far above what we might ever
expect in US quarter. Even so, it doesn't attempt to capture the immensity
of the Canyon, just a narrow ravine.
Bruce Remick
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That's more like it. Just curious though. How many have you bought so far?
mazorj
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Personally, I liked the Roman numeral dating on gold bullion coins. I
wouldn't want it on circulating coins but it was a nice distinctive
touch with a touch of class for a classic design. Of course, that may
just be the 4-year Latin scholar in me talking, so caveat signator.
Bruce Remick
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I guess I just got the same urge to feed the troll with my reply as you
apparently did to scold me with a post about feeding a troll. Easy, wasn't
it. ;>)
Mr. Jaggers
Isn't there a club out East whose members meet just to speak Latin? Are you
a member?
Roman numerals are not very well understood by The Average Bear, which is
why they were used in movie credits, I'm told. As for me, a 3-year Latin
scholar, my Latin has deteriorated something fierce. The lazy Latin motto
"Illegitimi non Carborundum" is still a big deal to my way of thinking,
though. Gaudeamus igitur!
Iacobus
Sally Crimson
> That's more like it. Just curious though. How many have you bought so
far?
Only one. A gentleman was selling coins out of the trunk of his car and
happened to have one for sale.
Mr. Jaggers
That same guy was set up just outside the city limits of my town one
afternoon this past week.
James
Bruce Remick
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
Yeah, the guy with the Chinese accent. I got a couple good buys from him,
too. Of course, I wisely insisted the coins be in PCGS holders. Sure
enough. In less than five minutes, he came up with three of them. MS70,
too. In a way I felt a little bad for the guy. He didn't realize what he
had there.
Mr. Jaggers
I was able to cherrypick a slabbed 1796 half dollar in AU58 and would have
bought more stuff, but it was getting on closing time, and he had an
appointment later that evening.
James
mazorj
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
> mazorj wrote:
...
>> Personally, I liked the Roman numeral dating on gold bullion coins.
>> I
>> wouldn't want it on circulating coins but it was a nice distinctive
>> touch with a touch of class for a classic design. Of course, that
>> may
>> just be the 4-year Latin scholar in me talking, so caveat signator.
>
> Isn't there a club out East whose members meet just to speak Latin?
> Are you a member?
I wouldn't be a member of any club that would have me as a member.
> Roman numerals are not very well understood by The Average Bear,
> which is why they were used in movie credits, I'm told.
Mmm, even Wikipedia pondered that and couldn't come up with an
authoritative answer. One contributor suggested the "hard to read"
rationale but I think another was closer to the truth. It's a
legalistic tradition lost in the murky depths of time. "We do it that
way because we've always done it that way."
> As for me, a 3-year Latin scholar, my Latin has deteriorated
> something fierce. The lazy Latin motto "Illegitimi non Carborundum"
> is still a big deal to my way of thinking, though. Gaudeamus
> igitur!
>
> Iacobus
And as the bewildering array of odd and marginally interesting
collectibles shows, it's still true that "De gustibus non est
disputandum."
Jud
that I am sure goes much farther back.
"Latin is dead
As dead as dead can be
First it killed the Romans
Now its killing me"
Quod Felix Faustum Que Sit
Bruce Remick
"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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We were always told in school that by learning Latin we could readily
adapt to learning other romance languages. Not only were we clueless as to
why they were called "romance" languages, but most of us decided we could
eliminate the middleman and instead take a language that we could actually
use to communicate with our friends' immigrant parents, like French,
Portuguese, or Italian. Soon after I graduated, Latin was dropped from the
curriculum like a useless Studebaker, what with only a few aspiring
pharmacists and priests choosing Latin as their language of choice. I took
French although most of my friends were of Italian and Portuguese descent.
Made sense to me.
mazorj
When I was choosing which language to start with in high school, some
advisor told us that Latin was useful for doctors and lawyers. Since
he was a priest he had his own bias, but that ended the discussion for
my parents, Latin it was. I didn't go into law or medicine (or the
priesthood) but years later I realized that Latin gave me the
foundation for more than half of modern English, 2 years of French
showed me how that language evolves over time and distance, and 2
years of German filled in the other side of the family tree for
English. Short of becoming a linguist, it was the best route to
acquiring a working command of our language.
Italians were everywhere. But where do you find a Portuguese enclave?
Mr. Jaggers
Newark NJ.
James
Bruce Remick
"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Ah, Rhode Island and Eastern Massachusetts had, and still have, large
Portuguese populations. Originally they were immigrant fishermen who
settled in and around New Bedford and Fall River, MA and raised their
families. It once seemed to me that half of the Cape Verde Islanders must
have come to America and settled in this area. Back in Rhode Island, when
many ethnic groups once maintained their own neighborhood "_____-American
society" social facility, I'll bet there were more Cape Verdean Society bars
in the Providence area than Italian-, Irish-, or German-American bars (er,
Societies) combined. And that didn't even include separate
Portuguese-American Societies. Today, I hear the Italian and Portuguese
dominence there is being challenged by an increasing Vietnamese and other
Asian population.
mazorj
Thanks for the explanation, which makes sense. The NE states and
Maritime Provinces had a wide variety of fishing crewmen who "went
native" and became landlubbers. It was mostly the French and English
who did that but fleets from other maritime nations worked those
waters too. You learn something new every day.
Jon Purkey
wrote:
> Why has it been so easy to incorporate the year, IGWT, Liberty, and EPU
>on the face of each First Spouse gold coin design, yet this apparently is
>considered impractical on the presidential dollar coins? Doesn't the Mint
>know by now that most collectors like to see the traditional year of issue
>on the obverse of their coins, especially collectors who enjoy inserting
>coins in albums? Otherwise, why bother putting dates on Mint-issued bullion
>coins, if not to increase sales and interest? These questions are for the
>gentleman there in the second row.
I sort of like having the mottos on the edge as it makes the design
less cluttered. IGWT is coming back to the obverse this year, but I
wonder how many supporters of getting it back on the obverse/reverse
of the Presidential Dollars knows where IGWT is located on the Cent,
Nickel, Dime and Quarter?
The year really is not necessary since the images are different, four
per year. But I do wish they had put the mint mark on either the
obverse or reverse, with my preference being the reverse, just above
the U in United.
Bruce Remick
"Jon Purkey" <room32...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:20:36 -0500, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Why has it been so easy to incorporate the year, IGWT, Liberty, and
>> EPU
>>on the face of each First Spouse gold coin design, yet this apparently is
>>considered impractical on the presidential dollar coins? Doesn't the
>>Mint
>>know by now that most collectors like to see the traditional year of issue
>>on the obverse of their coins, especially collectors who enjoy inserting
>>coins in albums? Otherwise, why bother putting dates on Mint-issued
>>bullion
>>coins, if not to increase sales and interest? These questions are for the
>>gentleman there in the second row.
>
> I sort of like having the mottos on the edge as it makes the design
> less cluttered. IGWT is coming back to the obverse this year, but I
> wonder how many supporters of getting it back on the obverse/reverse
> of the Presidential Dollars knows where IGWT is located on the Cent,
> Nickel, Dime and Quarter?
Along the same lines, I wonder how many people know (or care) what E
Pluribus Unum means, or why they always stick it on our coins? Unless
Parade Magazine asks it as a question on the inside cover, few may ever find
out.
>
> The year really is not necessary since the images are different, four
> per year. But I do wish they had put the mint mark on either the
> obverse or reverse, with my preference being the reverse, just above
> the U in United.
Wow! You're probably the first coin collector I've heard from who wouldn't
like the year to be visible on the dollar obverse. Talk about the Mint
going against 200+ years of tradition. Fifty years from now, when your eyes
get like mine and you receive your first dollar coin in change, you may
wonder what year it was minted. I agree though that it's hard to believe
they couldn't find room for a mint mark anywhere on the front or back. If
they could fit one on a half dime.......
Scott Stevenson
Central California. Most of them emigrated from the Azores.
take care,
Scott
Mr. Jaggers
Or, as they say in the Sunny Land of France, «A chacun son goût»
Jacques