Delays on getting eternal-spetember posts
mazorj
my eternal-september account. They were not downloaded to my reader until I
used the Tools/Get Next XXX Headers command to flush them out. These
"failure to transmit" delays lasted a few weeks and then mysteriously
cleared up. There wasn't any clear pattern of it always happening only to
specific posters although it seemed to be confined to a limited number of
threads.
Over the past week it's been happening again. A few minutes ago I forced a
download and got 18 posts that had been posted on rcc way back in early
September and missed by early-september.org. (An ironic coincidence, I
presume.) This was despite the fact that I already had used this command
several times between then and now.
Is anyone else experiencing this from your e-s news account?
If you aren't doing this regularly, you might be surprised at how many posts
you missed because of this problem. It also happens with another newsgroup
I read through e-s. One symptom is seeing replies to a post that hasn't
shown up on your reader.
- mazorj, Bothered and Bewildered (But Not Bewitched)
cnntp
news:i7g4co$fov$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Try cnntp, much mor reliable and of course...free.
rgrds
mazorj
"cnntp" <rumin...@usenet.cnntp.org> wrote in message
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Thanks, although as with most decisions to change something in life, I won't
do anything until the pain and bother of the status quo exceeds the pain and
bother of making the switch. I'm nowhere near that yet with e-s. This was
merely an easily overcome annoyance.
Arizona Coin Collector
"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
>>? "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> ?????? ??? ??????
>>news:i7g4co$fov$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Earlier this year I experienced a problem with receiving rcc posts
>>> through my eternal-september account. They were not downloaded to my
>>> reader until I used the Tools/Get Next XXX Headers command to flush them
>>> out. These "failure to transmit" delays lasted a few weeks and then
>>> mysteriously cleared up. There wasn't any clear pattern of it always
>>> happening only to specific posters although it seemed to be confined to
>>> a limited number of threads.
>>>
>>> Over the past week it's been happening again. A few minutes ago I
>>> forced a download and got 18 posts that had been posted on rcc way back
>>> in early September and missed by early-september.org. (An ironic
>>> coincidence, I presume.) This was despite the fact that I already had
>>> used this command several times between then and now.
>>>
>>> Is anyone else experiencing this from your e-s news account?
>>>
>>> If you aren't doing this regularly, you might be surprised at how many
>>> posts you missed because of this problem. It also happens with another
>>> newsgroup I read through e-s. One symptom is seeing replies to a post
>>> that hasn't shown up on your reader.
>>>
>>> - mazorj, Bothered and Bewildered (But Not Bewitched)
Hello to all
Tell me, what is this big thing with "Eternal September"?
I always see the lack of "netiquette" at various levels in newsgoups
in September. The numbers spike up.
Many of the unemployed I have come across are full time
unpaid bloggers who answer the call to "Eternal September".
I am now between jobs now. My last job ended on 09/02/2010
with the 2010 U.S. Census (that lasted six months), and I am
waiting to start on my next job October 18th. Wish it would start
now.
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FROM:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
Eternal September (also September that never ended)
is a Usenet slang expression, coined by Dave Fischer,
for the period beginning September 1993. The
expression encapsulates the belief that an endless
influx of new users (newbies) since that date has
continuously degraded standards of discourse and
behavior on Usenet and the wider Internet.
Background
Usenet originated among universities, where every
year in September, a large number of new university
students from the Northern hemisphere acquired
access to Usenet, and took some time to acclimatize
to the network's standards of conduct and
"netiquette". After a month or so, these new users
would theoretically learn to comport themselves
according to its conventions.
September thus heralded the peak influx of disruptive
newcomers to the network.
In 1993, the online service America Online began
offering Usenet access to its tens of thousands,
and later millions, of users. To many "old-timers",
these "AOLers" were far less prepared to learn
netiquette than university freshmen. This was in
part because AOL made little effort to educate its
users about Usenet customs, or explain to them that
these new-found forums were not simply another
piece of AOL's service. But it was also a result
of the much larger scale of growth. Whereas the
regular September freshman influx would soon settle
down, the sheer number of new users now threatened
to overwhelm the existing Usenet culture's capacity
to inculcate its social norms.
Since that time, the dramatic rise in the popularity
of the Internet has brought a constant stream of
new users. Thus, from the point of view of the
pre-1993 Usenet user, the regular "September" influx
of new users never ended. The term was first used
by Dave Fischer in a January 26, 1994, post to
alt.folklore.computers:
" It's moot now. September 1993 will go down in
net.history as the September that never ended. "
Some ISPs have eliminated binary groups (Telus in
Canada) and others have dropped Usenet
altogether (Comcast, AT&T). On February 9, 2005,
AOL discontinued newsgroup access through its
service, which it announced on January 25, 2005.
On September 16, 2008, Comcast discontinued
newsgroup access, previously provided to all its
high speed customers.
cnntp
You can actually use both of them parallel so you can check their
reliability and decide after a few weeks/months what to do!
I have installed on my laptop both cnntp and giganews.
I've used them parallel for about 6 months and then I decided that I am
quite satisfied with cnntp so I dropped giganews.
rgrds
mazorj
"Arizona Coin Collector" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I'm not clear as to what your point is about eternal-spetember.org and your
perception of a spike of bad behavior in September. My issue was a purely
technical matter so the timing and the name of my news provider are purely
coincidental to the fact that it's September.
> I am now between jobs now. My last job ended on 09/02/2010
> with the 2010 U.S. Census (that lasted six months), and I am
> waiting to start on my next job October 18th. Wish it would start now.
Speaking of "a lack of netiquette," why do you insist on imposing on us the
continuing saga of your inabiity to find employment? Even those of us who
might tend to be sympathetic are getting a bit weary of this mantra of
yours. It's OT even for threads that already are OT to numismatic
interests. And no one is going to offer you a job through your rcc posts.
Give it rest, okay?
(delete irrelevant historical report on the founding of e-s)
Arizona Coin Collector
>
>>
>
> I'm not clear as to what your point is about eternal-spetember.org and
> your perception of a spike of bad behavior in September. My issue was a
> purely technical matter so the timing and the name of my news provider are
> purely coincidental to the fact that it's September.
>
> Speaking of "a lack of netiquette," why do you insist on imposing on us
> the continuing saga of your inabiity to find employment? Even those of us
> who might tend to be sympathetic are getting a bit weary of this mantra of
> yours. It's OT even for threads that already are OT to numismatic
> interests. And no one is going to offer you a job through your rcc posts.
> Give it rest, okay?
>
> (delete irrelevant historical report on the founding of e-s)
>
>
Hello
As for OFF TOPIC, I am sure others in "rcc" would think
your original posting would be considered OFF TOPIC. I
never though of it as such.
I would not expect to here from others in my defense, since
they do show "a bit of netiquette". Something others in
"rcc" could learn from.
..
celtex
No more off topic than your original post. Good luck on your employment
picture. Maybe a eyeball for the border? Maybe not...
Jud
wrote:
> As for OFF TOPIC, I am sure others in "rcc" would think
> your original posting would be considered OFF TOPIC. I
> never though of it as such.
>
> I would not expect to here from others in my defense, since
> they do show "a bit of netiquette". Something others in
> "rcc" could learn from.
>
Careful now! You might be labeled as a neocon, gored ox, racist,
crypto-something-or-another. The loss of your job was probably due to
the Bush administration anyway, and things will be better now that
"the annointed one" is in charge. AFAIK, he is probably directly
responsible for you getting the job in the first place. (Note sarcasm
directed at OP)
BTW...I for one miss your periodic posts which I found to be quite
informative.
Jud - awaiting OP response...this should be fun!-
8-)
mazorj
"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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mazorj - awaiting something from Jud to respond to, besides this meaningless
ad hominem drivel.
mazorj
"celtex" <jimdn...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
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You tawkin' to me? What part of his reply was on-topic? The background
text on e-s that I deleted was on topic to my on-topic post, but irrelevant.
My OP asking about the Internet propagation of rcc posts was well within the
core interests of rcc users, some of whom use e-s to read rcc. OTOH, his
frequent whining about his lack of employment has absolutely nothing to do
with any core interests of rcc.
> Good luck on your employment picture. Maybe a eyeball for the border?
> Maybe not...
You tawkin' to him now? I wish him well in his job hunt too - partly
because I do have sympathy for him, and partly because it would eliminate
the basis of his continuing OT blather about his luckless job-hunting. I,
too, appreciate his occasional reporting of on-topic news stories. It just
would be less annoying ("good netiquette") if he stuck to that.
Relayer
> "celtex" <jimdnich...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
I have used AOL from date of launch. I onlt still use it becuase of
years of emails stored. Just access usenet through Google. it's the
easiest way to do it.
Jud
> mazorj - awaiting something from Jud to respond to, besides this meaningless
> ad hominem drivel.
Awww, now you've done it! You've hurt my feelings.
Your turn again! 8-)
Bremick
No similar problems here with e-s..... yet. But then it's not always
obvious to know what you're missing.