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yawnmoth

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Feb 9, 2010, 9:12:47 PM2/9/10
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The coin with the hole in it is a five yen Japanese coin. There's
also a single Japanese one yen coin in the pictures, but there are 3x
other coins - seemingly of the same type - that I can't identify.
There's what appears to be a dove or a chicken on one side and a
building that looks a bit like the US state capital on the other side.

Any ideas?

Mr. Jaggers

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Feb 9, 2010, 10:02:37 PM2/9/10
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Except for the 1 yen coin, they are all 5 yen. The Japanese character in
the field to the left of the building is the numeral that equates to "5" and
the figure to the right equates to "yen." You see those same characters, a
bit more stylized, on the holed coin. The coins with the bird (actually a
pigeon) are 5 yen coins, both dated year 24 (1949). You see the same two
year characters on the 1 yen coin. The 5 yen coin with the building side
showing should have the pigeon on the other side.

HTH

James


Ken Barr

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Feb 10, 2010, 4:24:34 AM2/10/10
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In article
<e3663bbe-a914-4acb...@a5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
yawnmoth <terr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

The pigeon / building coins are also Japanese 5 yen coins, of the same
vintage as the 1 yen. Yeoman number Y-71, issued in either Showa 23
(1948) or Showa 24 (1949). According to the images, you have one from
23 and two from 24.

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Mr. Jaggers

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Feb 10, 2010, 5:22:22 AM2/10/10
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Ken Barr wrote:
> In article
> <e3663bbe-a914-4acb...@a5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> yawnmoth <terr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31717414@N06/4321711006/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31717414@N06/4320977537/
>>
>> The coin with the hole in it is a five yen Japanese coin. There's
>> also a single Japanese one yen coin in the pictures, but there are 3x
>> other coins - seemingly of the same type - that I can't identify.
>> There's what appears to be a dove or a chicken on one side and a
>> building that looks a bit like the US state capital on the other
>> side.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> The pigeon / building coins are also Japanese 5 yen coins, of the same
> vintage as the 1 yen. Yeoman number Y-71, issued in either Showa 23
> (1948) or Showa 24 (1949). According to the images, you have one from
> 23 and two from 24.

Ken, I wonder how many more catalog sets will be issued before Krause
finally updates all the numbering for all countries. I jumped them about it
recently, and got the stock answer about how they don't have staff to do the
job, etc. etc., the same excuse that they've been using since the days when
they did have staff to do the job. Japan, Venezuela, Russia, China, and
Poland - good grief, now that last one is a really embarrassing mixture of
KM, Craig, and Yeoman numbering as you work your way from 1601 to date. I
can see why China might be daunting to renumber, but Poland?

That said, I still catalog my own collection in Craig and Yeoman numbering.
Sheesh.

James


Mr. Jaggers

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Feb 10, 2010, 5:22:22 AM2/10/10
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Ken Barr wrote:
> In article
> <e3663bbe-a914-4acb...@a5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> yawnmoth <terr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31717414@N06/4321711006/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31717414@N06/4320977537/
>>
>> The coin with the hole in it is a five yen Japanese coin. There's
>> also a single Japanese one yen coin in the pictures, but there are 3x
>> other coins - seemingly of the same type - that I can't identify.
>> There's what appears to be a dove or a chicken on one side and a
>> building that looks a bit like the US state capital on the other
>> side.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> The pigeon / building coins are also Japanese 5 yen coins, of the same
> vintage as the 1 yen. Yeoman number Y-71, issued in either Showa 23
> (1948) or Showa 24 (1949). According to the images, you have one from
> 23 and two from 24.

Ken, I wonder how many more catalog sets will be issued before Krause

Ken Barr

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Feb 10, 2010, 11:44:11 AM2/10/10
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In article <hku1d...@enews1.newsguy.com>,
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:

[snip]


> Ken, I wonder how many more catalog sets will be issued before Krause
> finally updates all the numbering for all countries. I jumped them about it
> recently, and got the stock answer about how they don't have staff to do the
> job, etc. etc., the same excuse that they've been using since the days when
> they did have staff to do the job. Japan, Venezuela, Russia, China, and
> Poland - good grief, now that last one is a really embarrassing mixture of
> KM, Craig, and Yeoman numbering as you work your way from 1601 to date. I
> can see why China might be daunting to renumber, but Poland?
>
> That said, I still catalog my own collection in Craig and Yeoman numbering.
> Sheesh.

I gave up asking that question many years ago. I suspect that every day
the catalogers have to decide "What do I do today? Renumber Japan, or
add another twenny pages of Isle of Man crap?".

Personally, I'm waiting for them to put out a three volume "Standard
Catalog of Isle of Man Crap" ... and then get the Rest of the World back
into a single volume for 1850 to date like in the Olde Daze ...

Mr. Jaggers

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Feb 10, 2010, 12:26:56 PM2/10/10
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Ken Barr wrote:
> In article <hku1d...@enews1.newsguy.com>,
> "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>> Ken, I wonder how many more catalog sets will be issued before Krause
>> finally updates all the numbering for all countries. I jumped them
>> about it recently, and got the stock answer about how they don't
>> have staff to do the job, etc. etc., the same excuse that they've
>> been using since the days when they did have staff to do the job.
>> Japan, Venezuela, Russia, China, and Poland - good grief, now that
>> last one is a really embarrassing mixture of KM, Craig, and Yeoman
>> numbering as you work your way from 1601 to date. I can see why
>> China might be daunting to renumber, but Poland?
>>
>> That said, I still catalog my own collection in Craig and Yeoman
>> numbering. Sheesh.
>
> I gave up asking that question many years ago. I suspect that every
> day the catalogers have to decide "What do I do today? Renumber
> Japan, or add another twenny pages of Isle of Man crap?".
>
> Personally, I'm waiting for them to put out a three volume "Standard
> Catalog of Isle of Man Crap" ... and then get the Rest of the World
> back into a single volume for 1850 to date like in the Olde Daze ...

No kidding. Actually, if they took out all the NCLT, it would be even
smaller than the old 1850 to date book was. Unfortunately, I don't think
the skeleton staff left in Iola has such lofty choices. They used to, but
once F&W took over and Chet and Cliff and Fred exited, we don't see any new
names on the marquee.

James the Cataloguer


yawnmoth

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Feb 10, 2010, 1:28:30 PM2/10/10
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On Feb 9, 8:12 pm, yawnmoth <terra1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31717414@N06/4321711006/http://www.flickr.com/photos/31717414@N06/4320977537/

>
> The coin with the hole in it is a five yen Japanese coin.  There's
> also a single Japanese one yen coin in the pictures, but there are 3x
> other coins - seemingly of the same type - that I can't identify.
> There's what appears to be a dove or a chicken on one side and a
> building that looks a bit like the US state capital on the other side.
>
> Any ideas?

Thanks, Mr. Jaggers and Ken Barr! :)

Mr. Jaggers

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Feb 10, 2010, 2:07:35 PM2/10/10
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Could I suggest you try to purchase a copy of the Krause Standard Catalog of
World Coins? A used copy might set you back a ten-spot, but would be well
worth your while to acquire.

James


yawnmoth

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Feb 10, 2010, 6:51:03 PM2/10/10
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On Feb 10, 1:07 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
> yawnmoth wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 8:12 pm, yawnmoth <terra1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/31717414@N06/4321711006/http://www.flick...

>
> >> The coin with the hole in it is a five yen Japanese coin. There's
> >> also a single Japanese one yen coin in the pictures, but there are 3x
> >> other coins - seemingly of the same type - that I can't identify.
> >> There's what appears to be a dove or a chicken on one side and a
> >> building that looks a bit like the US state capital on the other
> >> side.
>
> >> Any ideas?
>
> > Thanks,  Mr. Jaggers and Ken Barr! :)
>
> Could I suggest you try to purchase a copy of the Krause Standard Catalog of
> World Coins?  A used copy might set you back a ten-spot, but would be well
> worth your while to acquire.

I actually have been consulting that. Though I've made quite a few
posts here trying to get coins identified there are many many more
coins I've not posted about because I have been able to identify them.

The problem is when you're completely off base. Some earlier posts
I've made have been about coins that were apparently from Pakistan and
Israel and in those cases it never occurred to me to look up those
countries. For Pakistan, I figured it was some country in the middle
east, like Yemen, Qater, Iran, Iraq. Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Egypt,
Syria, etc. Pakistan just did not occur to me. Same thing for the
Israeli coin. Because it was aluminum, I figured (incorrectly) that
it was from southeast Asia.

That said, for the coins in this thread, I should have seen them. I
guess I just glossed over them or something. I thought they might
have been from Vietnam, Korea, China. Taiwan, Singapore, etc. I don't
know what all countries use kanji and am confident I'm, at times, even
managing to misidentify kanji.

For example, I have some coins from Ethiopia. Apparently they use
Ge'ez script that I thought, for the longest, was Arabic. The only
reason I even looked up Ethiopia was because it occurred to me that
the person I got the coins from had been there and that I hadn't yet
found any Ethiopian coins. Well, in point of fact, I actually had
found Ethiopian coins, but I just hadn't realized it.

Mr. Jaggers

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Feb 10, 2010, 7:08:14 PM2/10/10
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Collecting and studying coins of the world helps one learn things about that
world that simply do not come within the view of the great majority of the
population. As the late, great Richard Yeo once said in his famous coin
books, "The quest is the thing." Sounds as if you're getting a good
education. Keep up the good work!

James


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