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stonej

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Jan 24, 2009, 8:42:25 AM1/24/09
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At one point they averaged 64 pages and sometimes 72 but these days
the standard seems
to be around 52.

Blame it on the bad economy I'm sure along with competition from eBay
and other dealer
run web sites. Are the free classified ads gone now? I know at one
time they changed to an online format rather than clip out and snail
mail but I see no mention of any free ads anymore.

RWF

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Jan 24, 2009, 9:24:19 AM1/24/09
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"stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in message
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My NN sub is about to run out (if it hasn't already) and I don't plan on
renewing.
IMO, Coin World is a superior numismatic weekly, with far more articles,
ads, etc.
I used to enjoy reading the free classifieds in NN and was sorry to see
them go.
My subscription to "Coins" magazine (they lured me with a "free" ASE)
will also be allowed to lapse.
This year my only numismatic publications will be Coin World, Canadian
Coin News and the RCNA Journal.

Bruce Remick

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Jan 24, 2009, 9:28:41 AM1/24/09
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"stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in message
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> At one point they averaged 64 pages and sometimes 72 but these days
> the standard seems
> to be around 52.

Same number of pages as all standard comic books when I was a kid. But
maybe those have changed, too. It used to take me a good half hour to
browse through an issue of NN. Now it's easily a "one throne session" read.

oly

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Jan 24, 2009, 9:55:49 AM1/24/09
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Because of the direct and indirect support that KP gave (and still
gives, perhaps to a lesser degree) to many coin shows and their
related collector organizations, I will always subscribe to NN and
World Coin News. I will continue to do so until I perceive that this
support is all gone.

Over the years, no entity has done more for the hobby than Krause
Publications. We would not have the wonderful Standard Catalogs of
World Coins (in all its various formats) without the folks from Iola.
Realize that a bunch of farmboys and small town kids produced those
catalogs - not the English, not the Germans... but a bunch of folks
from a small town in Wisconsin.

oly

RWF

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Jan 24, 2009, 10:44:36 AM1/24/09
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"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>Over the years, no entity has done more for the hobby than Krause
Publications. We would not have the wonderful Standard Catalogs of
World Coins (in all its various formats) without the folks from Iola.
Realize that a bunch of farmboys and small town kids produced those
catalogs - not the English, not the Germans... but a bunch of folks
from a small town in Wisconsin.<

Be that as it may, both my time and my budget are limited.
NN is going downhill and CW is a superior publication, so I'll stick to
them.

Bruce Remick

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Jan 24, 2009, 10:55:46 AM1/24/09
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"RWF" <R...@200901.invalid> wrote in message
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Lately in NN, once you get past the cover story the rest seems to be reader
comments, which sometimes can be interesting, and "questions" that remind me
of the ones in Sunday Parade magazine that are more likely generated by
whatever tidbits the author uncovers rather than by actual people writing
in. As for the classified ads, once you've read through them for two
consecutive issues, you've pretty much seen what will be appearing for the
next six months. Like that same stale TV ad that begins with "Gold has
never been higher".


Edwin Johnston

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Jan 24, 2009, 10:56:24 AM1/24/09
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They still have the free print classified ads. But these days you submit
them online with an activation code printed in the newspaper. Right now
I'm running a regular print ad promoting my local coin club.

PC

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Jan 24, 2009, 11:06:39 AM1/24/09
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> Like that same stale TV ad that begins with "Gold has never been higher".

I get a kick out of that old lady who essentially proudly declares, "I got
ripped off for my scrap gold!"

RWF

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Jan 24, 2009, 11:17:42 AM1/24/09
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"PC" <P...@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
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An article I recently read about those scrap gold hucksters claims that
they are total rip-offs and pay about $30/oz for the gold they buy.

Bruce Remick

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Jan 24, 2009, 12:15:21 PM1/24/09
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"RWF" <R...@200901.invalid> wrote in message
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Any people who would gather up all their "scrap" gold coins, jewelry, teeth,
or whatever, load them in an envelope, and send it off to a stranger with no
clue as to the intrinsic or potential collector value of their assortment,
and then be happy with a check in return with no negotiation............
shouldn't even be allowed to go to the grocery store alone

PC

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Jan 24, 2009, 12:51:27 PM1/24/09
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
>>>>
>>>> Like that same stale TV ad that begins with "Gold has never been
>>>> higher".
>>>
>>> I get a kick out of that old lady who essentially proudly declares, "I
>>> got ripped off for my scrap gold!"
>>
>> An article I recently read about those scrap gold hucksters claims that
>> they are total rip-offs and pay about $30/oz for the gold they buy.
>
> Any people who would gather up all their "scrap" gold coins, jewelry,
> teeth, or whatever, load them in an envelope, and send it off to a
> stranger with no clue as to the intrinsic or potential collector value of
> their assortment, and then be happy with a check in return with no
> negotiation............ shouldn't even be allowed to go to the grocery
> store alone
>

But shipping is free and they supply you with a secure envelope. They take
all the worry and hassle out of it for you! What a bunch of great guys.

note.boy

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Jan 24, 2009, 1:48:38 PM1/24/09
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Coin News UK has 100 pages in most issues, this is more than over the
previous few years.

This makes it difficult to get the December issue into the binder that I buy
every year, I mentioned this to the editor at the York Coin Fair but told
him that extra pages was not a complaint. :-)

I get a car magazine also and for the first time ever the most recent issue
has under 100 pages, perhaps not a surprise with the state of the car
industry. Billy

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note.boy

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Jan 24, 2009, 1:52:10 PM1/24/09
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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And when you have finished reading it it can be used
to............................. :-) Billy


Bruce Remick

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Jan 24, 2009, 2:19:28 PM1/24/09
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"note.boy" <note...@naespamntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Coin News UK has 100 pages in most issues, this is more than over the
> previous few years.
>
> This makes it difficult to get the December issue into the binder that I
> buy every year, I mentioned this to the editor at the York Coin Fair but
> told him that extra pages was not a complaint. :-)
>
> I get a car magazine also and for the first time ever the most recent
> issue has under 100 pages, perhaps not a surprise with the state of the
> car industry. Billy

But it's not the car industry per se who advertises in the mags. I would
think that more people who are postponing buying a new car might be apt to
buy some stuff from car mag advertisers to repair or gussie up what they
have. But on the other hand, I suppose someone who was planning to buy a
set of fancy sheepskin seatcovers may have changed his mind because of a
shaky mortgage or job. I still like to read the car mags, and the fact
that there are industry problems today hasn't affected my interest in
reading. Makes me even more interested in the opinions of others.


note.boy

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Jan 24, 2009, 2:43:04 PM1/24/09
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Sheepskin seat covers have not been popular for some time, 20+ years?

Furry Dice have gone the same way.

Have a read, the Detroit Car Show features. Billy

http://autocar.co.uk/


Bruce Remick

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Jan 24, 2009, 8:04:00 PM1/24/09
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In the UK, maybe. I bought a nice pair for both my 1990 and 2002 Camaro
convertibles from companies that advertise them in car magazines. I plan to
buy another set for the 2011 Camaro convertible when it comes out, and if GM
survives that long. I still see lots of convertibles with them. What
really has been "out" for decades are those clear vinyl seat covers, mostly
used on bench seats.

>
> Furry Dice have gone the same way.

They're still automatic necessities for anyone with a restored 1950's era
American car. Ridiculous-looking on modern Japanese cars, especially to
anyone who grew up with them in the 1950's.

dsybok

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Jan 24, 2009, 8:27:11 PM1/24/09
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A friend of mine works in publishing, and his magazine, not coin related,
had gone from 130 pages to 80 pages over the past few months. Right before
the holidays my friend was let go, along with a number of other people at
his magazine. Simple lack of ad revenue which provides most of the $$, the
magazine industry lives and dies on ads, and not subscriptions.

Those missing 50 pages were almost entirely ads and therefore revenue.

D


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RWF

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Jan 24, 2009, 9:20:17 PM1/24/09
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> Sheepskin seat covers have not been popular for some time, 20+ years?
>
> In the UK, maybe. I bought a nice pair for both my 1990 and 2002
> Camaro convertibles from companies that advertise them in car
> magazines. I plan to buy another set for the 2011 Camaro convertible
> when it comes out, and if GM survives that long. I still see lots of
> convertibles with them. What really has been "out" for decades are
> those clear vinyl seat covers, mostly used on bench seats.
>
>>
>> Furry Dice have gone the same way.
>
> They're still automatic necessities for anyone with a restored 1950's
> era American car. Ridiculous-looking on modern Japanese cars,
> especially to anyone who grew up with them in the 1950's.

Restored and not-so-restored Detroit iron from the 50s, 60s & 70s is
popular out by me and I still see fuzzy dice and sheepskin seat covers
in them.
What's a 57 Chevy Belair without a pair of fuzzy dice?

Bruce Remick

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Jan 24, 2009, 10:27:06 PM1/24/09
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"RWF" <R...@200901.invalid> wrote in message
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Exactly! What do the Brits know about fun cars? (ducking)


oly

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Jan 24, 2009, 11:47:16 PM1/24/09
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> Exactly!  What do the Brits know about fun cars?  (ducking)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Perhaps a bit if they're English.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article5430023.ece

oly

Arizona Coin Collector

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Jan 27, 2009, 9:28:48 AM1/27/09
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"stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in message
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> At one point they averaged 64 pages and sometimes 72 but these days


Hello

As of early morning (01/27/09), there is not much out there at all.


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