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Snoopy

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Oct 12, 2009, 12:54:19 PM10/12/09
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Hi All

I found a coin/medal today whilst metal detecting. It says on it "HRH the
Prince of Wales and HRH Princess Alexandra. It is to comemorate their
marriage on March 10 1863.

I have found a picture of it on omnicoin.com but I'm not sure if it's worth
anything or not, it's obviously not in very good condition but the heads
side of it is pretty good and you can just about make out some markings on
the flip side.

If anyone wants to see a pic of it mail me and I'll send you one, I don't
think I can post a pic here can I?

Any info on it would be welcomed.

Thanks.


oly

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Oct 12, 2009, 2:35:52 PM10/12/09
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Of course, this couple are better known today as King Edward VII and
Queen Alexandra. They became King and Queen in 1901. He died in 1910
and she died in 1925. They are entombed in St. George's Chapel,
Windsor Castle. Their son succeeded his father and became George V
(grandfather of the present Queen).

Numismatic Value??? O.K. Cash Value??? Not likely to be high. The
marriage of the Prince of Wales to the Danish Princess was one of the
first popular Royal events to occur after the death of Queen
Victoria's consort, Prince Albert. Probably lots and lots of medals
or medalets were struck. You are correct that we need a photo or two
to make a better determination.

oly

Snoopy

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Oct 12, 2009, 3:00:08 PM10/12/09
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Hi Oly

Many thanks for that interesting info.

I have managed to upload photo's of it to my Panoramio site if you want to
see it, bear in mind though it has been in the ground for many years.

http://www.panoramio.com/user/3294502

Regards.


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oly

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Oct 12, 2009, 3:09:02 PM10/12/09
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On Oct 12, 2:00 pm, "Snoopy" <upupandaway...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Oly
>
> Many thanks for that interesting info.
>
> I have managed to upload photo's of it to my Panoramio site if you want to
> see it, bear in mind though it has been in the ground for many years.
>
> http://www.panoramio.com/user/3294502
>
> Regards.
>
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message
> oly- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Nice pictures. The Prince was still beardless on this medal, which is
NOT how he is typically remembered today.

This Prince of Wales is the same fellow pictured on the tins of Prince
Albert Tobacco nowadays.

I suspect that you should keep this to show what kind of neat things
(but not particularly valuable in terms of cash money) can be turned
up with a good metal detector.

oly

Snoopy

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Oct 12, 2009, 4:02:16 PM10/12/09
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oly

Thanks Oly.


The Giant Brain

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Oct 12, 2009, 5:07:45 PM10/12/09
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"Snoopy" <upupand...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> This Prince of Wales is the same fellow pictured on the tins of Prince
> Albert Tobacco nowadays.

Wiseass: Do you have Prince Albert in a can?
Merchant: Yes
Wiseass: Well, you better let him out!


Mr. Jaggers

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Oct 12, 2009, 5:29:28 PM10/12/09
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That's as bad as "Is your refrigerator running?"

James the Practical Joker


Jud

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Oct 12, 2009, 9:41:41 PM10/12/09
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On Oct 12, 5:29 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:

> That's as bad as "Is your refrigerator running?"
>
> James the Practical Joker

Or "Is your house on the bus line?"

Mr. Jaggers

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Oct 12, 2009, 11:02:39 PM10/12/09
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That one I don't know.

James the Uninformed


Jud

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Oct 13, 2009, 9:04:11 AM10/13/09
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On Oct 12, 11:02 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com>

wrote:
> Jud wrote:
> > On Oct 12, 5:29 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
>
> >> That's as bad as "Is your refrigerator running?"
>
> >> James the Practical Joker
>
> > Or "Is your house on the bus line?"
>
> That one I don't know.
>
> James the Uninformed

"Well, you better get out! Here comes a bus!"

Mr. Jaggers

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Oct 13, 2009, 9:36:27 AM10/13/09
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Jud wrote:
> On Oct 12, 11:02 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com>
> wrote:
>> Jud wrote:
>>> On Oct 12, 5:29 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> That's as bad as "Is your refrigerator running?"
>>
>>>> James the Practical Joker
>>
>>> Or "Is your house on the bus line?"
>>
>> That one I don't know.
>>
>> James the Uninformed
>
> "Well, you better get out! Here comes a bus!"

Aaaaauuuuuuuuggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

James the Aroostook


Peter

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Oct 13, 2009, 10:28:06 AM10/13/09
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On Oct 12, 4:02 pm, "Snoopy" <upupandaway...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This Prince of Wales is the same fellow pictured on the tins of Prince
> Albert Tobacco nowadays.

Albert was Victoria's husband. Why do you think that Edward and
Albert have the same picture?

oly

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Oct 13, 2009, 3:11:04 PM10/13/09
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The Prince of Wales' name was Albert Edward and when he came to the
throne, he chose Edward as his regnal name.

Rest assured, Victoria's Prince Albert (born 1820, died 1861) was not
and is not the man on the Tobacco tins. It is his eldest son, Albert
Edward, the Prince of Wales, dandy, bon vivant and libertine of the
late Victorina era.

oly

oly

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Oct 13, 2009, 3:14:49 PM10/13/09
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s/b "Victorian", of course.

And I cite as evidence:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Albert_tobacco

oly

Mr. Jaggers

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Oct 13, 2009, 3:24:58 PM10/13/09
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Hey, where can I get a gig like that?

James the Rou�


oly

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Oct 13, 2009, 3:37:49 PM10/13/09
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> James the Roué- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Albert Edward, the Prince of Wales, had a great great gig, fer sure.
His biggest problem was that his mother kept him on a relatively short
string about money (but this deprivation was only relative to such
folks as the Rothschilds, and to a number of other eminent, wealthy
peers of the realm). His wife, Princess Alexandra (later Queen) was
most understanding about Lily Langtry, Lady Jersey and a whole host of
other ladies (including a final mistress who was the great-grandmother
of Prince Charles' wife, Camilla).

Prince Albert Edward was an advertising icon exactly because he was a
great and notable consumer of all good things, including smokes.
OTOH, his father, Albert, was conservative and a bit of a prude.

oly

oly

oly

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Oct 13, 2009, 4:01:54 PM10/13/09
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The Giant Brain

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Oct 13, 2009, 9:53:06 PM10/13/09
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"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> It is his eldest son, Albert dward, the Prince of Wales, dandy, bon vivant
> and libertine of the late Victorina era.

And Jack the Ripper suspect...


Jud

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Oct 14, 2009, 8:39:19 AM10/14/09
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On Oct 13, 3:37 pm, oly <oly2...@aol.com> wrote:

> Albert Edward, the Prince of Wales, had a great great gig, fer sure.
> His biggest problem was that his mother kept him on a relatively short
> string about money (but this deprivation was only relative to such
> folks as the Rothschilds, and to a number of other eminent, wealthy
> peers of the realm).  His wife, Princess Alexandra (later Queen) was
> most understanding about Lily Langtry, Lady Jersey and a whole host of
> other ladies (including a final mistress who was the great-grandmother
> of Prince Charles' wife, Camilla).
>
> Prince Albert Edward was an advertising icon exactly because he was a
> great and notable consumer of all good things, including smokes.
> OTOH, his father, Albert, was conservative and a bit of a prude.
>

He was known as 'Bertie' throughout his life, as well as being known
as the 'Playboy King'. Some of his other dalliances were with Alice
Kepple, Lady Brooke, Lady Mordant, Princess de Mouchy, Princess de
Sagan, and Jennie Jerome, who later was the mother of Winston
Churchill.

Jud -the Royal Scandal Monger

oly

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Oct 14, 2009, 9:11:10 AM10/14/09
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On Oct 13, 8:53 pm, "The Giant Brain" <gi...@brain.invalid> wrote:
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message

No, that "suspect" was the Prince of Wales' eldest son who died in
1894 or thereabouts, in his mid-twenties. That son apparently had
extremely limited brainpower and the British Empire was quite lucky
that it was his younger brother George who later came to the throne
(1910)... this eldest son of Albert Edward is entombed in a
magnificent chapel at Windor Castle.

oly

oly

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Oct 14, 2009, 9:16:47 AM10/14/09
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Actually, the Prince of Wales' affair with the American heiress Jennie
Jerome (Lady Randolph Churchill) must have taken place after Winston's
birth (and possibly after the birth of his brother Jack Churchill as
well). Lord Randolph and Jennie married quite young, shortly after
she came to England, and she was probably pregnant with Winston when
the marriage took place. Winston's birth was reported as "premature",
but most of his biographers demure. As Prince of Wales and later as
King, Edward VII consistently showed special favor to the up and
coming young Winston.

oly

Jerry Dennis

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Oct 14, 2009, 10:04:04 PM10/14/09
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On Oct 14, 8:39 am, Jud <numismat...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 3:37 pm, oly <oly2...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Albert Edward, the Prince of Wales, <snipped>>

> > Prince Albert Edward was an advertising icon exactly because he was a
> > great and notable consumer of all good things, including smokes.
> > OTOH, his father, Albert, was conservative and a bit of a prude.
>
> He was known as 'Bertie' throughout his life, as well as being known
> as the 'Playboy King'. Some of his other dalliances were with Alice
> Kepple, Lady Brooke, Lady Mordant, Princess de Mouchy, Princess de
> Sagan, and Jennie Jerome, who later was the mother of Winston
> Churchill.
>
> Jud -the Royal Scandal Monger

Jud, I'm disappointed. Oly gave you a great lead-in,and you missed
it. I am depressed. :-(

Jerry
"Do you have Prince Albert in a can... ?"

Scott Stevenson

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Oct 16, 2009, 1:22:42 AM10/16/09
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:37:49 -0700 (PDT), oly <oly...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Oct 13, 2:24�pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
>> oly wrote:
>> > On Oct 13, 9:28 am, Peter <w2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Oct 12, 4:02 pm, "Snoopy" <upupandaway...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> This Prince of Wales is the same fellow pictured on the tins of
>> >>> Prince Albert Tobacco nowadays.
>>
>> >> Albert was Victoria's husband. Why do you think that Edward and
>> >> Albert have the same picture?
>>
>> > The Prince of Wales' name was Albert Edward and when he came to the
>> > throne, he chose Edward as his regnal name.
>>
>> > Rest assured, Victoria's Prince Albert (born 1820, died 1861) was not
>> > and is not the man on the Tobacco tins. �It is his eldest son, Albert
>> > Edward, the Prince of Wales, dandy, bon vivant and libertine of the
>> > late Victorina era.
>>
>> Hey, where can I get a gig like that?
>>

>> James the Rou�- Hide quoted text -


>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Albert Edward, the Prince of Wales, had a great great gig, fer sure.
>His biggest problem was that his mother kept him on a relatively short
>string about money (but this deprivation was only relative to such
>folks as the Rothschilds, and to a number of other eminent, wealthy
>peers of the realm). His wife, Princess Alexandra (later Queen) was
>most understanding about Lily Langtry, Lady Jersey and a whole host of
>other ladies (including a final mistress who was the great-grandmother
>of Prince Charles' wife, Camilla).

BTW, from portraits I've seen, Alice Keppel (Camilla's
great-grandmother) was more than a little attractive:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417RAGEH1TL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

take care,
Scott

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