OT: HEMA
oly
Click on the link and just wait for five to ten seconds or so - see
what happens. It's pretty good.
oly
mazorj
"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Pretty cool. I didn't know that Dutch for a boom-box was
"ghettoblaster".
oly
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message
"Damespanty" isn't too difficult to figure out either.
oly
PC
"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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American culture is like a fine dust - it gets everywhere.
Along those same lines, Santa Claus in the Netherlands has a little slave
called "Black Pete" who distributes candy to the children when Santa is in
town. The children so love Black Pete that they dress up like him around
Christmas. This can and does include putting on black face. Very weird and
eerie from a US citizen point of view...
Santa is from Turkey originally but now lives in Spain according to
Netherlands legend.
oly
> "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> >> HEMA is a chain of department stores in the Netherlands.
>
> >> Click on the link and just wait for five to ten seconds or so - see
> >> what happens. It's pretty good.
>
> >>http://producten.hema.nl/
>
> > Pretty cool. I didn't know that Dutch for a boom-box was "ghettoblaster".
>
> American culture is like a fine dust - it gets everywhere.
>
> Along those same lines, Santa Claus in the Netherlands has a little slave
> called "Black Pete" who distributes candy to the children when Santa is in
> town. The children so love Black Pete that they dress up like him around
> Christmas. This can and does include putting on black face. Very weird and
> eerie from a US citizen point of view...
>
> Santa is from Turkey originally but now lives in Spain according to
> Netherlands legend.
Nothing particularly un-American about "black-face". It's a part of
our nation's musical history, for certain, and I believe Ted Danson
got a lot of attention for doing it a few years back. I suspect you
could have seen a "black face" minstrel show until about 50 years
ago.
You ain't called "PC" for nothing, I guess...
oly
PC
>
> American culture is like a fine dust - it gets everywhere.
>
> Along those same lines, Santa Claus in the Netherlands has a little slave
> called "Black Pete" who distributes candy to the children when Santa is in
> town. The children so love Black Pete that they dress up like him around
> Christmas. This can and does include putting on black face. Very weird and
> eerie from a US citizen point of view...
>
> Santa is from Turkey originally but now lives in Spain according to
> Netherlands legend.
Nothing particularly un-American about "black-face".
Who is that comment directed at? I never claimed it was "un-American".
Please explain how you think I said that.
> It's a part of
our nation's musical history, for certain, and I believe Ted Danson
got a lot of attention for doing it a few years back.
Yeah - a lot of NEGATIVE attention. Do you have a clue why?
> I suspect you
could have seen a "black face" minstrel show until about 50 years
ago.
Right - kind of my point? It is an embarrasing part of our history. Do you
have a clue why?
Do you make it a habit of attacking people for things they didn't say and
then correcting them by agreeing with them?
> You ain't called "PC" for nothing, I guess...
Is your wife named Lena?
Wm Hopkins
oly
Robert Downey Jr. even more recently.
oly
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message
Gee, "very weird and eerie from a U.S. citizens point of view" sounds
like liberal mind syphilis to me...
excuse me now, you politically correct fucktard, I'm busy watching
"Song of the South"... Lena just put it in the DVD player...
oly
Peter
> "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> >> HEMA is a chain of department stores in the Netherlands.
>
> >> Click on the link and just wait for five to ten seconds or so - see
> >> what happens. It's pretty good.
>
> >>http://producten.hema.nl/
>
> > Pretty cool. I didn't know that Dutch for a boom-box was "ghettoblaster".
>
> American culture is like a fine dust - it gets everywhere.
>
> Along those same lines, Santa Claus in the Netherlands has a little slave
> called "Black Pete" who distributes candy to the children when Santa is in
> town. The children so love Black Pete that they dress up like him around
> Christmas. This can and does include putting on black face. Very weird and
> eerie from a US citizen point of view...
>
> Santa is from Turkey originally but now lives in Spain according to
> Netherlands legend.
Typically, the zwarte piet players wear black face. I tend to like
them the best as they carry the implied threat that if you've been
bad, they'll put you in their bag and take you to Spain. I like Spain
and always volunteer when I can (they don't seem to want to take me,
even so).
Dik T. Winter
> "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> > "oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >> HEMA is a chain of department stores in the Netherlands.
HEMA means "Hollandse Eenheidsprijzen Maatschappij Amsterdam", or "Dutch
Unitprices Company Amsterdam". It started before WWII as a shop where
everything was priced in multiples of 25 cent, or somesuch.
> American culture is like a fine dust - it gets everywhere.
>
> Along those same lines, Santa Claus in the Netherlands has a little slave
> called "Black Pete" who distributes candy to the children when Santa is in
> town. The children so love Black Pete that they dress up like him around
> Christmas.
You are wrong. Sinterklaas is already away when Christmas comes. He leaves
on the 6th of December, and all the presents are giving on the 5th of
Decemner (in the Netherlands) or the 6th of December (in Belgium).
He did inspire the Coca Cola company to the introduction of Santa Clause in
the US, but mixed with elements of Father Christmas from other European
countries.
Until now, Santa Claus is in the Netherlands still far more popular than
Father Christmas.
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> Until now, Santa Claus is in the Netherlands still far more popular
> than
> Father Christmas.
But not more popular than legalized prostitution and pot smoking.
PC
> <P...@Minneapolis.mn.us> writes:
> > "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:P%Dll.252$hm....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> > > "oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:fcb7b73e-b8f4-4673...@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > >> HEMA is a chain of department stores in the Netherlands.
>
> HEMA means "Hollandse Eenheidsprijzen Maatschappij Amsterdam", or "Dutch
> Unitprices Company Amsterdam". It started before WWII as a shop where
> everything was priced in multiples of 25 cent, or somesuch.
>
> > American culture is like a fine dust - it gets everywhere.
> >
> > Along those same lines, Santa Claus in the Netherlands has a little
> > slave
> > called "Black Pete" who distributes candy to the children when Santa is
> > in
> > town. The children so love Black Pete that they dress up like him
> > around
> > Christmas.
>
> You are wrong. Sinterklaas is already away when Christmas comes.
Tomato - po-tat-o. Whatever. It is the Christmas season.
PC
>
> Is your wife named Lena?
Gee, "very weird and eerie from a U.S. citizens point of view" sounds
like liberal mind syphilis to me...
>>
OK now you are backpedalling from the "un-American" which was baseless and
inflammatory charge and trying to cling to the flimsy and pathetic "liberal"
attack.
I am sorry if that offends your "get in the back of the bus" redneck
mentality.
> excuse me now, you politically correct fucktard, I'm busy watching
"Song of the South"... Lena just put it in the DVD player...
Nice language.
PC
"Peter" <w2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Santa is from Turkey originally but now lives in Spain according to
> Netherlands legend.
Typically, the zwarte piet players wear black face. I tend to like
them the best as they carry the implied threat that if you've been
bad, they'll put you in their bag and take you to Spain. I like Spain
and always volunteer when I can (they don't seem to want to take me,
even so).
>>
LOL!
Mr. Jaggers
For some reason I'm unable to figure out who just wrote the above, but where
can I get SOTS on DVD that will play in the U.S.?
James the Politically Incorrect
PC
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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> For some reason I'm unable to figure out who just wrote the above, but
> where can I get SOTS on DVD that will play in the U.S.?
>
> James the Politically Incorrect
I have no idea - just do not lump me in with a crowd that advocates banning
anything. Even though oly is trying to paint me with that broad brush.
I have no idea why he decided to start attacking me. I am free to make
whatever observations I want.
Mr. Jaggers
If that was you just now, Patrick, I wasn't aware that I had lumped you in
with anything. My newsreader occasionally plays tricks on me, even with OE
Quote-Fix (which I believe you recommended to me once - thanks again for
that!) and it became impossible to sort out who was saying what to whom in
the exchange that preceded my inquiry.
My quest persists. Disney has proclaimed that SOTS is politically
incorrect, and has refused to allow anyone access to it now for decades. My
view is that it is a modern celebration of the centuries-old African griot
tradition. I did manage to find it in a three-part YouTube download, but
the quality leaves much to desire. Oh well, it's better than nothing.
James
Bruce Remick
"PC" <P...@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
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Ahem. Maybe we can start a club. He used to criticize me and my backwoods
views directly, but now he only seems to do it behind my back in his posts
to others. Maybe you'll have that to look forward to.
Bruce Remick
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
I saw the original in the theater and in books as a kid, along with Little
Black Sambo. Maybe it's because I was a northern boy, but I never felt that
there was anything racial in either story at the time. Niaive, I guess, but
then maybe Mr. Disney was, too. I'd like to have an original copy of SOTS
but they seem to cost more than a lot of coins. I recently picked up a copy
of the Spin & Marty CD and enjoyed watching it again after over fifty years.
I lent it to some of the neighborhood kids and they were glued to it for
some four hours. Too bad so many of Disney's 1950's nature, historical, and
all-American boy-type shows either didn't survive or have been held back. A
glance at a daily Disney Channel offering shows how insignificant that time
period is in the minds of today's producers.
oly
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IMHO Bruce, your problem is that you constantly violate Ockham's
Razor. Everything in your world is much too complicated (and real
money is a very simple subject). I suppose you picked that up while
faking your way through a Government career.
PC's problem is that he's stupid. Probably voted for Al Franken and
probably licks Obama's photograph every night before he goes to bed.
Form a club, I won't interfere.
oly
Mr. Jaggers
Little Black Sambo is a perfect example of public ignorance. The story is
set in India, and Sambo is a little boy growing up in India. Its story was
perverted by unscrupulous bigots to make political points.
James
PC
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
>>
>> I have no idea - just do not lump me in with a crowd that advocates
>> banning anything.
>
> with anything.
I mean I would prefer that no one labels me with such a broad brush; it was
not aimed at you specifically.
To summarize just because I dared mention that black face is considered
really bad form and in extremely bad taste in the United States today, oly
decided to go off an label me un-American and a *shudder* liberal. I
responded in kind. He didn't get it.
Anywho, my computer died last spring so I went crazy with a 4 processors 8
GB, 64 bit Vista setup. The new Windows Mail on Vista replaces Outlook
Express. Windows Mail seems to be as bad, or possibly even worse, than
Outlook Express when it comes to attribution especially when someone is
posting from Google Groups. I just checked the OE-Quotefix site and I see
that it works with Vista Mail. I'll have to get that installed. It was
really a nice tool.
PC
<<<
PC's problem is that he's stupid. Probably voted for Al Franken and
>>>
I would vote for Mickey Mouse before I would vote for Norm Coleman.
Besides, there was a third party candidate, Mr. know-it-all.
>>>
probably licks Obama's photograph every night before he goes to bed.
<<<
We see the ugly truth peek out from underneath in nearly every post.
PC
"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> I saw the original in the theater and in books as a kid, along with Little
> Black Sambo. Maybe it's because I was a northern boy, but I never felt
> that there was anything racial in either story at the time. Niaive, I
> guess, but then maybe Mr. Disney was, too.
I don't think I have seen Song of the South but I did have a copy of Black
Sambo. I really liked the book as a child and it never occurred to me that
it was racist either. Perhaps if I had actually lived in a more diverse
place at the time my perspective would have been different. I can't say.
Bruce Remick
On Feb 15, 8:06 pm, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote:
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> > "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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> >> For some reason I'm unable to figure out who just wrote the above, but
> >> where can I get SOTS on DVD that will play in the U.S.?
>
> >> James the Politically Incorrect
>
> > I have no idea - just do not lump me in with a crowd that advocates
> > banning anything. Even though oly is trying to paint me with that broad
> > brush.
>
> > I have no idea why he decided to start attacking me. I am free to make
> > whatever observations I want.
>
> Ahem. Maybe we can start a club. He used to criticize me and my backwoods
> views directly, but now he only seems to do it behind my back in his posts
> to others. Maybe you'll have that to look forward to.- Hide quoted text -
>
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> IMHO Bruce, your problem is that you constantly violate Ockham's
> Razor. Everything in your world is much too complicated (and real
> money is a very simple subject). I suppose you picked that up while
> faking your way through a Government career.
You're losing me here. I thought my "problem" was that my views were too
simplistic and that I didn't appreciate the complexity of today's economics.
You've got me totally confused now. And I guess I haven't made myself clear
either. Everything in my world is actually pretty simple. Fortunately
without having read a single economics textbook to screw it up.
And I consider your uncalled for comment that I "faked" my way through govt
service to be a sign that you are a cloistered scholar who has run out of
quotations to cite and will now resort to insults.
> PC's problem is that he's stupid. Probably voted for Al Franken and
> probably licks Obama's photograph every night before he goes to bed.
> Form a club, I won't interfere.
Waste of time and effort in your case.
Dik T. Winter
Depends. For natives the answer is no, for non-natives it appears to be
otherwise. But I think the percentage of cocaine users in the US is
approximately equal to the percentage of pot smokers in the Netherlands.
Addiction to alcohol is a bigger problem than any drugs addiction.
Legalization of prostitution is another matter, that I am willing to discuss.
But whatever. The number of deaths by violence in Amsterdam and suburbs
(approximately 750,000 inhabitants) was 11 in 2008 (down from 23 in 2007).
Is there a city in the US that compares to that figure? San Francisco?
Mr. Jaggers
> "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> I have no idea - just do not lump me in with a crowd that advocates
>>> banning anything.
>>
>> If that was you just now, Patrick, I wasn't aware that I had lumped
>> you in with anything.
>
> I mean I would prefer that no one labels me with such a broad brush;
> it was not aimed at you specifically.
>
> To summarize just because I dared mention that black face is
> considered really bad form and in extremely bad taste in the United
> States today, oly decided to go off an label me un-American and a
> *shudder* liberal. I responded in kind. He didn't get it.
Yeah, don't you get pretty tired of being called a TRAITOR and a LIBRUL,
just because you express some views, or vote a certain way? When I went to
school, self-expression and voting were considered the hallmark of a true
American. And that was before we had to invoke the name of a deity when
reciting the Pledge. Think Norman Rockwell's painting of Freedom of Speech.
James