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Bill Krummel

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Mar 23, 2005, 5:49:18 PM3/23/05
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but did not, causing some to refer to it as the "lawbreaker" coin."
Numismatic News, March 1, 2005, pg.61.

Without reading the article, does anyone know which coin some have referred
to as the "lawbreaker" coin?

For those who do not know and do not subscribe to NN, two clues;

I want one where I live.

Bill


Bill Krummel

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Mar 25, 2005, 12:12:01 PM3/25/05
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"Bill Krummel" <dqu...@netins.net> wrote in message
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Some have referred to the Missouri classic commemorative half as the
"lawbreaker" coin. It does not have any of these mottos; "IN GOD WE TRUST",
"E PLURIBUS UNUM", or "LIBERTY". According to the article, there are coins
that will be missing some of those mottos, but it is unusual for a coin to
be missing all.

My six word sentence contained two clues - I collect classic commemorative
halfs and I live in Missouri.

Bill


Bill Krummel

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Mar 25, 2005, 12:14:22 PM3/25/05
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"Bill Krummel" <dqu...@netins.net> wrote in message
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Bingo! Correct answer, Bill. I see you also figured out your own clues.
Good job.

Bill


Bill Krummel

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Mar 25, 2005, 12:16:04 PM3/25/05
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"Bill Krummel" <dqu...@netins.net> wrote in message
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Bill, are you all right? Doing ok? This seems a little strange.

Bill


Bill Krummel

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"Bill Krummel" <dqu...@netins.net> wrote in message
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Yeah, I'm fine. Just having a little fun.

Bill


Randy Thompson

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Mar 25, 2005, 12:36:55 PM3/25/05
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Bill, I often have the problem of no one replying to my posts, but I
don't think I've ever carried on the whole discussion with myself.

I read your original post and didn't have a clue. I don't recall the
Missouri commem being called the lawbreaker coin before. I don't own
one and didn't remember that it lacked all three mottos. I know
several other coins were technically lawbreakers when issued, including
the Morgan dollar. I guess I'm still a wannabe commem collector,
especially since I don't have a Hudson either. ;)

Bill Krummel

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Mar 25, 2005, 2:22:08 PM3/25/05
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"Randy Thompson" <thomp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ahem. I gave two clues.

"I don't own one and didn't remember that it lacked all three mottos."

Honestly, I have never looked at any coin to see what mottoes are there. I
would have to pull out my Oregon (don't read that out loud if you are with
company, you may be misunderstood) or my Stone Mountain ( oh what the heck,
go ahead and read it out loud) just to see what mottoes are on those coins
or lacking.

"I guess I'm still a wannabe commem collector, especially since I don't have
a Hudson either."

I had a net graded Missouri once. I have yet to own a Hudson.

Bill


Randy Thompson

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Mar 25, 2005, 2:55:41 PM3/25/05
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Bill Krummel wrote:

> "I read your original post and didn't have a clue."
>
> Ahem. I gave two clues.

Maybe I should have said, " I had no clue as to how to interpret your
clues".

> "I don't own one and didn't remember that it lacked all three
mottos."
>
> Honestly, I have never looked at any coin to see what mottoes are
there. I
> would have to pull out my Oregon (don't read that out loud if you are
with
> company, you may be misunderstood) or my Stone Mountain ( oh what the
heck,
> go ahead and read it out loud) just to see what mottoes are on those
coins
> or lacking.

I may never look at an Oregon or Stone Mountain the same again. I may
give up collecting commems altogether now. Someone already ruined the
Delaware for me by making some reference to a baby with some intestinal
problems...

Bob Flaminio

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Mar 25, 2005, 3:20:45 PM3/25/05
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The only solution I can see here is for Bill to sell me his Grant. That
will make all right with the world.

--
Bob


Bill Krummel

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Mar 25, 2005, 3:32:58 PM3/25/05
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"Bob Flaminio" <b...@flaminio.com> wrote in message
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Baseball teams sometimes do three way trades, involving three different
ballclubs. Now, it seems to me that Bob Rudd had a Hudson to sell at one
time. So I am thinking; Bob Rudd sends me the Hudson, I send Flaminio my
Grant, and Flaminio sends something to Bob Rudd, maybe a commem to be named
later. I could live with that.

Bill


Bill Krummel

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Mar 25, 2005, 3:49:39 PM3/25/05
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"Randy Thompson" <thomp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Bill Krummel wrote:
>
>> "I read your original post and didn't have a clue."
>>
>> Ahem. I gave two clues.
>
> Maybe I should have said, " I had no clue as to how to interpret your
> clues".
>
>> "I don't own one and didn't remember that it lacked all three
> mottos."
>>
>> Honestly, I have never looked at any coin to see what mottoes are
> there. I
>> would have to pull out my Oregon (don't read that out loud if you are
> with
>> company, you may be misunderstood) or my Stone Mountain ( oh what the
> heck,
>> go ahead and read it out loud) just to see what mottoes are on those
> coins
>> or lacking.
>
> I may never look at an Oregon or Stone Mountain the same again. I may
> give up collecting commems altogether now. Someone already ruined the
> Delaware for me by making some reference to a baby with some intestinal
> problems...

Hahaha! I went to eBay to get a good look at a Delaware to see what the
heck you were talking about. A couple of years ago, a fellow collector in
the local coin club wanted to sell me a Delaware and I held it for awhile,
studied it, mulled it over and didn't make a deal, mainly on account of one
unsightly mark on the coin. Viewing that coin, though, caused me to put
Delaware rather far down on my list of commems to buy, because I just wasn't
impressed with the design. But I didn't recall seeing a baby or intestines.
One look at the auction image, courtesy of one of our "favorite" sellers;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3355&item=3966286817

and I saw the gaseous brat right away. I have to read the commem book now,
because I can't figure out what is meant by that element of the design. A
cloud wouldn't have rays emanating from it. Raindrops? The sun, behind the
cloud? Something entirely different? What am I missing? I'll read about
the Delaware this evening.

Bill


Ed Hendricks

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Mar 25, 2005, 6:05:21 PM3/25/05
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"Bill Krummel" <dqu...@netins.net> wrote in message
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I just pulled out my copy of Anthony Swiatek's commem book. All he seems to
have to say about it is "Above the church appears the sun's rays piercing
the clouds".

--
忽帕
~
Ed Hendricks
ANA# R178621
"Life is a coin. You can spend it any way you wish, but you can
only spend it once!"

John Carney

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Mar 26, 2005, 8:28:50 AM3/26/05
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"Bill Krummel" <dqu...@netins.net> wrote

> Bingo! Correct answer, Bill. I see you also figured out your own clues.
> Good job.
>
> Bill

So, what did you win? :oD

--
John

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Bill Krummel

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Mar 26, 2005, 2:03:29 PM3/26/05
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"John Carney" <jcar...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Bill Krummel" <dqu...@netins.net> wrote
>
>> Bingo! Correct answer, Bill. I see you also figured out your own clues.
>> Good job.
>>
>> Bill
>
> So, what did you win? :oD
>
> --
> John

What did I win? Well, I have won several auctions lately. I am
particularly pleased with this one;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3964390355

Coins are in my possession ( all have killer luster, or close to killer, and
I grade 62, 62 or 63, and shot 64).

I haven't received the classic commemorative halfs that I have most recently
won. I won a Connecticut half that I hope I will like, but I suspect I
won't. I'll just have to wait. I won at a good price anyway, at least I
think it was;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3964184453

I have seen ICG do conservative grading on some early commems, and I have
seen at least one ICG commem that I thought they were a point over. As best
as I can tell from the tracking site, this seller hasn't shipped yet, even
though I paid with Paypal on 3/14.

Sigh. I also won this one;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3964443853

and I was totally enthusiastic, until I was showing the auction page to my
manager and it occurred to me that the one Texas I have could be the same
date and mintmark. A check with my database showed the one keeper that I
have was in fact the same date and mint mark and a coin that I like very,
very much. I own this one;

http://showcase.netins.net/web/billsdqandcoins/Texas1936D


If I could afford it, I would buy and keep every commem that looked good to
me. It wouldn't make any difference if I already owned ten of one date and
mint mark. However, I can't afford to do that, so this recent purchase will
mean I will have to make what may be an agonizing decision as to which coin
I keep and which coin I convert to cash. I am not looking forward to it and
I made a stupid mistake bidding on the recent 36-D Texas.

Nowhere close to the answer you were looking for, John, but anywho, that's
my answer to your question.

Bill


Anita

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Mar 26, 2005, 2:27:57 PM3/26/05
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:03:29 -0600, "Bill Krummel" <dqu...@netins.net>
wrote:
...

>What did I win? Well, I have won several auctions lately. I am
>particularly pleased with this one;
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3964390355
...

Looks like you got a good price for the three coins. Congrats1 It's
always a good feeling when raw coins look as good in person as they do
on the auction page.

Anita

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