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2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle - MS not proof

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Thomas N Mathberg

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Mar 8, 2009, 12:25:07 AM3/8/09
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I just recieved mine in the mail. I am disappointed. Paid 1189 plus 4.95
shipping. I ordered it in early January and got it on Thursday. The mint
is now selling it for around $1300. The coin itself is beautiful but small
and thick. I really wish they would have made it the size of the original
double eagle. Also the case they put it in makes it rattle which can damage
the coin. It does come in elorborate packaging; which adds to the cost but
does not add value.

Any comments from people who have recieved it.

T

David Farmer

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Mar 8, 2009, 8:44:04 AM3/8/09
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who was the shipper (FedEx, USPS)?

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Ira

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Mar 8, 2009, 10:21:52 AM3/8/09
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On Mar 8, 1:25 am, "Thomas N Mathberg" <Tom.Mathb...@runningpage.org>
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Tom,

About 40-50 1907 Ultra High relief St Gaudens double eagles were
struck. These are worth in the $1,000,000 range each these days, but
these were NOT the original ultra high reliefs. One thick ultra high
relief was struck and that us now held in the Smithsonian's
collection. It is that unique piece the 2009 ultra high relief is
modeled after. Still contains the same amount of gold as the larger
diameter 34mm piece. But, if you're so disappointed in your purchase,
I'll be glad to reimbuse you all your costs in its purchase. The
diameter and thickness was no secret and was disclosed on the Mint's
website. I think the 2007 UHR is stunningly beautiful.

Ira

oly

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Mar 8, 2009, 10:32:29 AM3/8/09
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On Mar 8, 12:25 am, "Thomas N Mathberg" <Tom.Mathb...@runningpage.org>
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There are several specimens of the "small and thick" St. Gaudens in
the Smithsonian collection; it was always very clear in the Mint
literature that it was these odd coins that the Mint was copying. No
deception there. I got to handle (in cointains) two specimens of the
"small and thick" coins.back in 1992 during a Smithsonian seminar.

oly

Ira

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Mar 8, 2009, 11:11:49 AM3/8/09
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I stand, er, sit corrected. I thought there was only one. Never saw
the small and thick version when I visited the Smithsonian several
years ago, but they only had a minute portion of the collection on
display (as always).

Ira

jack

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Mar 8, 2009, 11:15:09 AM3/8/09
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"Thomas N Mathberg" <Tom.Ma...@runningpage.org> wrote in message
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It's a beautiful coin with high end packaging. class act. Because it's
thick the diameter is smaller.
I hope they issue I rwo ounce coin. I'll buy two of them right away.

j


oly

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Mar 8, 2009, 11:19:08 AM3/8/09
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Wasn't my intention to disagree, Oz. My recollection of something
that happened 17 years ago can be a bit shaky too. There were about
35 seminar participants back at the 1992 conflab and they took us into
the departmental library in two groups and showed us many raritiies.
I went back to the hotel and wrote down as much as I could remember of
what they showed us - the notebooks are not at my fingertips. But it
seems that they showed us a number of variations of the 1907 St.
Gaudens trial strikes. We also handled both of the "Half Union" gold
strikes and a 1913 Liberty five cents. Then there were just some
great examples of big foreign gold coins - not great rarities, but big
coins in top condition.

oly

j-rod

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Mar 8, 2009, 1:10:00 PM3/8/09
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Actually, it's not a coin, just like gold and silver eagles are not
coins.

I'm not sure if it's a bullion issue or a NCLT commemorative.

JAM

mazorj

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Mar 8, 2009, 1:28:48 PM3/8/09
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What's your definition of "coin"?

j-rod

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Mar 8, 2009, 4:02:42 PM3/8/09
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A piece of metal stamped and issued by the authority of a government for
use as money.

JAM

oly

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Mar 8, 2009, 4:52:51 PM3/8/09
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It is a coin; the distinction that you are looking for is "non-
circulating legal tender", or NCLT.

The token slugs that we use everyday from 1965 to date aren't "coins"
in the sense of being real money - they don't fuflfill all three of
the functions of money despite the government mandate that they be
accepted.

The new gold pieces from the mint are more both "coins" and "money"
than the mint's daily copper-nickel product, despite the fact that
they will not be commonly used.

oly

Bob Rudd

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Mar 8, 2009, 6:51:49 PM3/8/09
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In article <8f10343d-2286-4b99-b6d6-eca44fc7bcb7
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hehehe, Ira, I'd also be happy to purchase it from him for his cost if
he wishes to sell it.

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Thomas N Mathberg

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Mar 8, 2009, 7:43:40 PM3/8/09
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USPS. I have a PO Box.

dennis
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David Farmer

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Mar 8, 2009, 7:58:22 PM3/8/09
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THANK YOU!

Dave


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George D

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Mar 8, 2009, 8:38:45 PM3/8/09
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Mine came UPS Next day and was left on my front porch didn't ring the
door bell, nothing.

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YOU! Your money is your liberty. The taxes you pay gently enslave you,
and eventually destroy any human liberty you have. Fear government, pray
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jack

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"Thomas N Mathberg" <Tom.Ma...@runningpage.org> wrote in message
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OT 0- how many of these coins are goimg to be minted? I think I read
someplace 40,000 total.
I'd like to see them mint a two ounce high relief gold double eagle.

j


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