Have you a 20p worth �50 in your pocket? Royal Mint
error results in undated coins
By Sean Poulter
Last updated at 10:23 AM on 29th June 2009
Take a close look at that shiny new 20p piece in your
purse or pocket - it could be worth a lot more than
you think.
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A rare error at the Royal Mint means that tens of
thousands of the coins produced earlier this year
don't have 2009 stamped on them.
Coin experts say the lack of a date makes them worth
�50 each, and potentially much more in future.
The blunder occurred after a redesign of the 20p
piece. The Mint does not know exactly how many undated
coins were produced and released into circulation,
but estimates range between 50,000 and 200,000.
This is the first undated British coin to enter
circulation in more than 300 years - the last
occasion was 1672, when Charles II was on the
throne.
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The error has caused a great deal of excitement
among coin collectors because the Royal Mint, in
Llantrisant, South Wales, is normally so careful
about the manufacture and release of coins into
circulation.
The problem occurred after all the coins from the
1p through to the �1 were redesigned last year.
The designs for the 5p and 10p had been unchanged
for four decades.
There is an unwritten convention that designs should
be changed at least every 40 years to keep the
coinage fresh.
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The Royal Mint's usually impeccable quality control
somehow slipped up and the so-called 'mule' escaped
into circulation.
A 'mule' is a coin that has mismatched sides - a
reference to the mule being a mismatch of a horse
and donkey.
The change of the 20p design meant moving the year
date from the tails side to the side with the Queen's
head.
However, thousands of coins were minted using the
old version of the Queen's head, which does not have
the year date, and the new version of the tails side,
which also does not have a date.
This created thousands of coins without any date, a
rare and valuable mistake in the world of coin
collecting.
No one knows how much the undated 20p is worth.
However, The London Mint Office, which is a private
company with no connection to the Royal Mint, is
offering �50 a time to anyone who has one.
In 1983, the Royal Mint made an error with the 2p
piece and struck some with the wording 'new pence'
rather than 'two pence'.
The 1983 2p mule is currently worth a few hundred
pounds, however its value was enhanced because only
a very few of these reached the public.
Nick Hart, coin expert at the London Mint Office,
said: 'Mistakes like this not only fascinate people
but also have considerable value-increase
significance.
'We believe this extremely rare error will certainly
get the public looking at the coins in their pockets
again and noticing the excellent new designs launched
by the Royal Mint on our coinage.'
People who find an undated new 20p need to register
their details with The London Mint Office before
sending in the coin and claiming their reward.
Full details of how to register are available
online at http://www.undated20p.com .
..
The last I checked, eBay prices were hovering about �25. It remains to be
seen if they hold the prices in years to come.
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> Have you a 20p worth �ソス50 in your pocket? Royal Mint
> error results in undated coins
>
> By Sean Poulter
> Last updated at 10:23 AM on 29th June 2009
>
> Take a close look at that shiny new 20p piece in your
> purse or pocket - it could be worth a lot more than
> you think.
>
> (Image of Defective Coins)
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/29/article-1196176-058586C9000005DC-795_468x210.jpg
>
> A rare error at the Royal Mint means that tens of
> thousands of the coins produced earlier this year
> don't have 2009 stamped on them.
>
> Coin experts say the lack of a date makes them worth
> �ソス50 each, and potentially much more in future.
>
> The blunder occurred after a redesign of the 20p
> piece. The Mint does not know exactly how many undated
> coins were produced and released into circulation,
> but estimates range between 50,000 and 200,000.
>
> This is the first undated British coin to enter
> circulation in more than 300 years - the last
> occasion was 1672, when Charles II was on the
> throne.
>
> (Image of Charles II)
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/29/article-1196176-0165CAA700000578-168_233x423.jpg
>
> The error has caused a great deal of excitement
> among coin collectors because the Royal Mint, in
> Llantrisant, South Wales, is normally so careful
> about the manufacture and release of coins into
> circulation.
>
> The problem occurred after all the coins from the
> 1p through to the �ソス1 were redesigned last year.
> offering �ソス50 a time to anyone who has one.
They don't use 20p coins in Scotland - too much money, the Paki
merchants would constantly have to go to the bank to get change.
oly
...
< They don't use 20p coins in Scotland - too much money, the Paki
merchants would constantly have to go to the bank to get change.
Bwhawhawhawha! You've already made your point, oly. Everyone already
knows you're a bigot.
Nothing wrong with Pakis or red-dot Indians (maybe the UK could have
controlled the number of immigrants better, brought them in more
slowly to keep their nation in better social balance). Both groups
work hard, study hard, are great first-generation entreprenuers and
overall are much better than American diversities any day. The snide
part of the comment was about the poor lazy Scots.
oly
Okay, I'm going to boggle your mind and accept that explanation. In
view of your previous posting about Scots posting here, I see now that
they were your target and not the Pakis.
Anti-Scottish bigotry is still bigotry, but I did misread you this
time so my apologies for the error.
And pls note, one set of my great-grandparents were born in Scotland.
Their name was Brown, and OMG could I be related to the Scottish
jackass who sold 1/2 of the Bank of England's gold for $297 per troy
ounce???
America and Canada are populated by the ambitious Scotsmen who came
here between 1810-1914. Since Bobby Burns and Adam Smith (both died
just before 1800), can you name any Scotsman who made his reputation
while remaining in Scotland??? The ambitious ones went to England,
Canada and America. Illinois is absolutely chock full of persons
whose ancestors LEFT Scotland to get ahead in the world.
Not only is all this a dig on Billy the troll-spotter, but it's
reality.
oly
There were an entire family of Stevensons known for building
lighthouses in the 19th and early 20th centuries. One of their sons
became a writer of some renown.
John Logie Baird developed the first television system, and also took
out the first patent on what became fiber optic communications.
There are others, but those were the ones that popped into my head.
There are others that did quite a bit of work in whatever field, and
later moved to England, which I think our British friends would agree
is more like moving between two US states than it is moving from, say,
the US to Bolivia.
take care,
Scott
Please stop feeding the troll, thanks. Billy
Like the Scotish mind, Billy's is frozen. One suspects the English
will own you Scots another 300 years and then issue a coin to
commemorate that too.
oly
The fact is, from Sir Walter Scott until now, IF they didn't get their
ass south of the border, no Scot from 1800 to today is now known to
the world.
Before 1800, that was not always true.
Who is the most famous living Scotsman today??? I posit that it is
the actor Sean Connery.
What role made him famous??? He portrayed a heroic, patriotic
Englishman, Mr. James Bond, of Her Majesty's Secret Service.
Scott, don't let any Scotsman catch you saying that Scotland is
nothing more than a subordinate, constituent state in the British
union.
Of course it's true, but the Scots can't stand to hear it.
oly
---------
Troll troll troll your boat, gently down the stream; Merrily merrily
merrily merrily, let's make Billy scream.
Now it would be sweet if a Welsh Nationalist employed at the Royal Mint
slipped in a special reverse die for the 20p, that castigated the
English, and managed to get a couple of hundred thousand into
circulation before it was spotted.
--
Roger Hunt
They don't use the 2007 Act of Union commemoratives in Scotland
because it's waayyy too much money. oly
I think I can see where they are coming from - the extended volume of
my purse is 2.05 cubic centimetres at 20�C.
--
Roger Hunt
I realize that you are talking about size and bulk here.
But anyway you put it, in all of history, there is no record of a real
Scotsman having ever worn out a coin purse (not even Scrooge McDuck),
'though apparently many have worried about it.
Please note that Scrooge McDuck had to immigrate to America first,
before he became stinkin' rich.
oly
You simply can't go back further than 4004 B.C., fer sure. Ne Plus
ultra. Bishop Ussher sez so.
Of course, your spelling and pronunciation of "steenkeen' rich" is
correct, and mine just a pale American (English) rendering of the
actual Scots phrase.
oly
Some creationists who came after the good Bishop further nailed the
creation down to 9AM on October 3, 4004 B.C.
I am not sure if this is a Julian date or a Gregorian date and am
uncertain whether or not the hour is based on Mesopotamian time-zones
or upon GMT.
"Steenkeen" rich is what most Americans would like to be.
oly
oly
>Some creationists who came after the good Bishop further nailed the
>creation down to 9AM on October 3, 4004 B.C.
>
>I am not sure if this is a Julian date or a Gregorian date and am
>uncertain whether or not the hour is based on Mesopotamian time-zones
>or upon GMT.
>
Oh - GMT definitely, so the English colonialists can claim the honour.
>"Steenkeen" rich is what most Americans would like to be.
>
Mmmm ... I reckon I am happier with the Scottish outlook. Much simpler
life.
--
Roger Hunt
Roger, do you have a brother named Mike?
I once really enjoyed a "B" movie called Elk Hunt, or summat like
that.
oly
I enjoy bad B films. Especially tongue in cheek horror B films.
Have you seen "Brain Dead"?
--
Roger Hunt
No Billy the troll-spotter told me not to see that one, he said it
would hit too close to home.
I once worked with a guy that we affectionately called "old Brain
Dead".
As I recall, the movie "Elk Hunt" was all grainy and shot in a
monochrome black and white film. It seemed better that way.
oly
Then you should go to http://www.filmschatten.org/
B-Movies up the wazoo there and all for free!
It might have been a spanish/latin film, "El" something...
oly
> The �50 offer is too high as they are now fetching around �30 on ebay.
> Billy
>
Or there is this one...
--
Regards
Eddie
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Napoleon