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Boycott PCGS

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:34:58 PM1/4/10
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The following rules were said in an offensive manner from Don Willis,
President of the PCGS, reguarding message boards

Rule 1) This is not a public forum. This is a PCGS forum paid for by PCGS
and provided for PCGS customers to exchange information regarding collecting
US coins. We make the rules. If you don't like it go somewhere else.

Rule 2) Anyone posting crude or vulgar pictures or language will no longer
be allowed to post. No more warnings.

Rule 3) Anyone attacking another poster or making disparaging personal
remarks will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings.

Rule 4) Anyone making slanderous remarks concerning any individual, any
company, or any other entity will no longer be allowed to post. No more
warnings.

Rule 5) If you have nothing to contribute to an OP then do not post. Snide
remarks and other negative comments will result in your losing your ability
to post. No more warnings.

Rule 6) This forum is about US Coins. If your post is not directly related
to US Coins then this is the wrong forum. Do not post it or your posting
privileges may be removed.

Rule 7) This is a PCGS forum. Posts relating to other grading companies or
service are not allowed. Those posts will be removed and your posting
privileges may be removed as well.

Rule 8) This forum is provided for the education and sharing of information.
Not as a personal soapbox. If you want to learn and share information about
US Coins you are welcome.

Rule 9) If you don't like any of the rules outlined above see Rule 1.

Bruce Remick

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:56:53 PM1/4/10
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"Boycott PCGS" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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So if any or all of that is just too over the top for you, why bother
posting there? As teenagers we used to bite our lips and obey a bunch of
strict rules from haircuts to dress code just to be allowed in to the best
weekly dance in town at a catholic high school. It was worth it. I met
five of the girls I knew I was going to marry there.


Ira

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Jan 5, 2010, 6:43:54 AM1/5/10
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Hateful Don Willis? You don't like the rules of a MODERATED forum own
and supported by Pcgs? Then don't pot there. You prefer the endless
ads for Chinese counterfeit watches and luggage, the often vicious
personal attacks launched against members here on a unmoderated forum,
be my guest.

Why should anyone boycott PCGS because you don't like thir rules for
their forum? It it because you, sir, with all due respect, are a
moron? Their forum with their rules. Now back into your cave.

Ira. (not anonymous like you are, coward)

Anka

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:56:42 AM1/5/10
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> Ira. �(not anonymous like you are, coward)- Hide quoted text -
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Don't hold back, Ira!!! ;-)

~Anka

Ira

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:05:29 AM1/5/10
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> Don't hold back, Ira!!!   ;)
>
> ~Anka

Anka! Yes, I always try to couch my comments in obfuscation and
innuendo, but in this case I decided to be bold.

Ira

mazorj

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:08:22 PM1/5/10
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"Ira" <ir...@aol.com> wrote in message
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===========================

The only objection I had was #7, which IMO carries the legitimate privileges
of "It's my football" a bit too far. Not beyond logic, but beyond reason
and the principles of good PR.

So if someone wants to post that "I cracked out an NGC MS-63 and PCGS graded
it MS-65" or vice versa, you get censored and blocked? Ditto if you want to
opine that "I've never received a questionable grading from Grader X"? That
kind of post would seem to fall well within the intent of rule #8. So would
any discussion of TPGs that meets the other eight rules.

This kind of spin control is viewed by most people as dishonest.
Technically it's not; but it's the perception that counts. That plus the
question it raises: "What are they hiding?" It's just a dumb, petty-minded
PR policy.

Having said all that, the OP is a naive cry-baby. As Bruce pointed out, if
the reward for following rules is sufficient, rational people will put up
with them. If not, they'll vote with their feet and they don't need some
anonymous whiner telling them what to do.

Frank Provasek

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Jan 6, 2010, 5:15:28 PM1/6/10
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A lot of people on the PCGS board are outraged that their "right of
free speech as guaranteed by the Constitution" is being violated. As
I commented on the PCGS board, the First Amendment applies only to
the government -- PCGS has the right to make such rules and delete
posts at will, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea from a public
relations standpoint to their customers.

My post was deleted.

--
Frank Provasek
http://www.frankcoins.com Ebay FRANKCOINS
Rare Coins, Special Purchase of Classic Movie and TV DVDs

Petronius

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Jan 6, 2010, 5:26:00 PM1/6/10
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"Frank Provasek" <fr...@frankcoins.com> wrote in message
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I'm always amused by those who feel that "free speech" in a private setting is
guaranteed by the Constitution.
If someone came into your home and started spouting off criticisms of you or
other things you found objectionable, you would toss said person out on their
ear.
Is it good public relations? Probably not, as you pointed out.
Is it unconstitutional? Nope.


MKW

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:54:36 PM1/7/10
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Who draws the line between unwarranted negative comments about a
business and useful feedback that could help solve an issue or warn
others?

Bruce Remick

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:56:27 PM1/7/10
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"MKW" <mwelb...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Who draws the line between unwarranted negative comments about a
> business and useful feedback that could help solve an issue or warn
> others?

In this case, apparently PCGS. In another popular case, eBay. And then
there's Congress.


PC

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:17:59 PM1/7/10
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What a hateful ASS! Let's get him!

mazorj

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:23:40 PM1/7/10
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Or in the worst-case scenario, a jury.

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