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Darth Cardz

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Nov 17, 2004, 6:53:47 PM11/17/04
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email me for a list of what i have extras of. its mostly promos right now and
im seeking same and also food issues and oddball special cards inserts and the
like. specialties include star wars and other sci fi.. trek and lord of rings
and potter and action epic films etc.. also disney marvel and dc. fantasy art
and music and superman batman and spiderman etc. if u are interested in
finding out what i have available in a small list of extras.. email me directly
please thanks

forevernitefan

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Dec 6, 2004, 4:12:17 AM12/6/04
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Let it be known that darth cardz is also known as darth cr...@aol.com,
aka Glen Frohman. If you Google the crdz screename or his real name you
will see many posts of how this guy RIPPED PEOPLE OFF in his videotape
trading. I am not saying he will rip anyone off here, but his previous
actions online show his character. LAst year he spent a few months in
the Brooklym MDC ( a federal prison) for conspiracy to commit video
piracy. He has threatened to beat me to death with a baseball bat ( I
had a bad transaction with him on Ebay). All in all, even if his
trading collecting non-sports cards is legit, he has been known to
cheat people via mail. He will use a post office box in another's name.
These are some of the signs he may be setting up to cheat people.

Just a cautionary note, He may be, for once on the up-and-up.
But I doubt it
Moe

Darth Cardz

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Dec 6, 2004, 4:48:06 PM12/6/04
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this person lies. if u need more info feel free to contact me directly. this
person is an online stalker and rather than spend an hour or more here
contradicting and proving the ridiculousness of this persons claims i will
ensure that anyone who wishes to know more find out all they need to by direct
email.
75% of the crap u would find on google was written by this one person using
several names. she in fact did buy a tape from me in 1998 and got it 2 days
later. 62 days after that she left a negative feedback and since then she spent
5 yrs harassing and stalking me online. she has no life and clearly is
delusional. i on the other hand ran my business for over 23 yrs with audio and
video tapes. not one pirated recording mind u and not one day spent in any
prison whatsoever. i traded and sold and collected rare and unreleased
concerts and other tv programming. no one was ever ripped off and not one
person who ever sent me anything had a problem with what they got from me. i
traded with 1000s and 1000s of people over 3 decades including online since
march of 1994. i had no problems with anyone at all til sept 98. there are
some who will tell u they heard this or that.. but upon some investigation and
research it can easily be realized that there are people who will perpetuate
the lies they heard by saying that they too heard this or that. contacting
anyone who directly had any trades with me who say they were ripped off is
virtually impossible. the ones that can be found will most often admit that
they personally werent ripped off. i maintained a list til july 02 of 100s and
100s of people who i had dealt with and who were extremely happy with all they
got from me. this person who lies that i am responding to here... is maureen
mcallister aka caddiepink on aol. she clearly has nothing else to do with her
time or life but suffice to say that 99% of her info is wrong. i dont put too
much effort into correcting it since i would rather she spent her time with
incorrect info than accurate info. she figures if she surrounds her facts with
bogus info that even the lies will seem true. and yes some people who want to
believe that someone out there is protecting them will accept that im a rip
off. thats fine.. im only interested in traders who want to trade not who wish
to play games. im too old to spend 10-15 hours a day defending myself as i did
from sept 98 to july 02. i never pirated a single recording in my life and was
never arrested for it and never did any time for it. but its important that
this person believe that i did so that she can get much more info incorrect. i
had never threatened to beat this idiot with a bat but with the literally 1000s
and 1000s of hours that i devoted into defending myself and getting past this
sort of harassment and abuse it is no wonder that she is still alive i will
say. many people suggested that i should in fact find her and end it.
there isnt one single person who has ever been cheated by me at all. i ran a
very successful business for 23 odd years. i had a po box for my mail since i
did get a lot of it.. but it was always in my name. i dont think someone who
wishes to cheat others has to use a po box and just because one does use one..
and i dont happen to use one bytheway.. doesnt mean that someone is out to rip
u off. u would think that if there was even one iota of truth that i had in
fact ripped anyone off that there would be some postal record of it or that
there would be more proof than a few testimonials by some idiotic kids who have
nothing better to do with their time. there isnt. not one actual legit
complaint with any authorities about me.
if u want more info.. on either maureen or myself.. feel free to email me
directly and privately and i will supply u with anything u wish to know.
whatever u do.. dont just blindly believe all that u hear or read online.

Jon Doyle

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Dec 6, 2004, 6:01:21 PM12/6/04
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kidtrek

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Dec 6, 2004, 9:38:51 PM12/6/04
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Hey Glenn and I suppose this article is "false" too about you being
arrested.
For those of you who "don't know about Glenn Frohman" check out this link:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.music.bootlegs/browse_thread/thread/6e904e0b83deb5d1/c97590c41d600384?q=frohman&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3Dfrohman%26start%3D40%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#c97590c41d600384
Talks all about how he got arrested doing "his thing" online. I believe
there is a real newspaper called the "Dayton Daily News" that reported
on Glenn's actions.
For those of you unfamiliar with Glenn's falsehoods please read
everything that's been posted about him before dealing with him at all.
And for everyone to know and beware of Glenn, here are all his emails
that he always uses:

tradi...@juno.com
Tradi...@aol.com
Tradi...@aol.com
xxph...@aol.com
Day...@juno.com
Ob...@aol.com
Obi1...@aol.com
media...@aol.com
mine...@aol.com
GB...@aol.com
horro...@aol.com Ebay ID: horrorritr
LuvYa...@aol.com
concert...@aol.com Ebay ID: the same as email address
latenite...@aol.com Ebay ID: lateniteauctions
Comforta...@aol.com Ebay ID: tradincrdz
comforta...@aol.com Ebay ID: tradincrdz
NY2...@aol.com
Dart...@aol.com Ebay ID: rare--videos
Highest...@aol.com Ebay ID: highestbidwinz
Ebay ID: Tradn

"girlfriends" addresses:
Jbe...@aol.com
barbi...@aol.com Ebay ID: kensgirl
Tipp...@aol.com Ebay ID: rare_stuff
arca...@aol.com Ebay ID: arcadia7
jbrac...@aol.com Ebay ID: braggabouts
shell...@aol.com

Granted some are probably discontinued but just beaware that he doesn't
always use the same emails all the time.
So there you all are, a heads up warning about Glenn and his activities.

FYI you can always find out more about him here too:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=frohman&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

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forevernitefan

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Dec 7, 2004, 10:31:52 AM12/7/04
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Darth Cardz wrote:
> this person lies.


And you OC do not?


if u need more info feel free to contact me directly. this
> person is an online stalker and rather than spend an hour or more
here
> contradicting and proving the ridiculousness of this persons claims i
will
> ensure that anyone who wishes to know more find out all they need to
by direct
> email.


IOW The usual caddiepink email where you sob that you are some poor
victim and pass out my name and phone number and addrress to get some
sucker to try to od your dirty work for you. BTW I noticed you did not
deny your name is Glen Frohan or that you used darth crdz@aol. com. My
reason for posting that caution is EXACTLY for the crap you have done
in the past online and want to try to HIDE it HERE to con these people.
It is a FACT that you you commited two counts of a federal FELONY and
spent some months last year in Brooklyn MDC. It is a FACT that you
cheat people online when you get a chance. And I bet on AOL you are
once AGAIN being abusive in AOL chat rooms. I have the guts to fight
you and not back down to your threats, even when you trheatened to beat
me to death with a baseball bat. You're a scum, Glen. I won't tell
these people on TENTH of what I have witnessed you do on AOl and in
some newsgroups, AS for the newsgroups they can see for themselves with
a google search on YOUR posts. YOUR posts, Glen, not mine or anyone
elses, shows what kind of mean , sick creep you are.


> 75% of the crap u would find on google was written by this one person
using
> several names. she in fact did buy a tape from me in 1998 and got it
2 days
> later. 62 days after that she left a negative feedback and since then
she spent
> 5 yrs harassing and stalking me online. she has no life and clearly
is
> delusional. i on the other hand ran my business for over 23 yrs with
audio and
> video tapes. not one pirated recording mind u and not one day spent
in any
> prison whatsoever.

Brooklyn MDC Glen, I have your inmate number and that you were left
out of there on February 23 of this year. Hell, anyone can check it out
for themselves by going to BOP.gov and type in your name in inmate
locator.

Heck I will even post the link.:

http://inmateloc.bop.gov/locatorservlet/gov.bop.inmatelocator.FindInmateHttpServle


GLEN FROHMAN
WHITE MALE

Inmate Information for GLEN FROHMAN

Inmate Register Number :

43481-061

Name :

GLEN FROHMAN

Age :

44

Race :

WHITE

Sex :

MALE

Date Released :

2/23/04

So what were you saying about never being incarcerated? :-D

A LIE anyone can verify. Glen. You DID pirate and bootleg videos.
Glen, You ever bragged that you copied over fifty times " Song of the
South" which you know damn well you do not have the permission of
DIsney to do that. Hell, you were CAUGHT selling bootleg tapes of the
Dave Matthews Band, for crying out loud! What a liar you are!!!


i traded and sold and collected rare and unreleased
> concerts and other tv programming. no one was ever ripped off and not
one
> person who ever sent me anything had a problem with what they got
from me.

Funny many online posted otherwise.

i
> traded with 1000s and 1000s of people over 3 decades including online
since
> march of 1994. i had no problems with anyone at all til sept 98.
there are
> some who will tell u they heard this or that.. but upon some
investigation and
> research it can easily be realized that there are people who will
perpetuate
> the lies they heard by saying that they too heard this or that.

Dude, I didn't " hear" this or that, the ones you RIPPED OFF TOLD ME.


contacting
> anyone who directly had any trades with me who say they were ripped
off is
> virtually impossible. the ones that can be found will most often
admit that
> they personally werent ripped off. i maintained a list til july 02 of
100s and
> 100s of people who i had dealt with and who were extremely happy with
all they
> got from me. this person who lies that i am responding to here... is
maureen
> mcallister aka caddiepink on aol. she clearly has nothing else to do
with her
> time or life but suffice to say that 99% of her info is wrong.

Actually Frohman a lot of my info is right, not all but a lot. I
havent verified Hix's claim that you sold child porn yet and I haven't
verified another person's email to me about an alleged murder of two
homeless people you supposedly did in New York, but complaints from
various people about you and your thievery and your abusive behavior
in newsgroups is well documented online. You exaggerate how much time I
actually spent on you, Glen.

Just as you make a whole lotta noise here in this post, more than
enough to make anyone reading it very suspicious about whether or not
you are indeed hiding something. Lotta noise for something so small,
Glen, Too much noise on your part, stupid.

i dont put too
> much effort into correcting it since i would rather she spent her
time with
> incorrect info than accurate info. she figures if she surrounds her
facts with
> bogus info that even the lies will seem true. and yes some people
who want to
> believe that someone out there is protecting them will accept that im
a rip
> off. thats fine.. im only interested in traders who want to trade not
who wish
> to play games. im too old to spend 10-15 hours a day defending myself
as i did
> from sept 98 to july 02. i never pirated a single recording in my
life and was
> never arrested for it and never did any time for it.

A lie, Want me to post the link showing the Dayton article and the
BOP search showing YOUR NAME and where you were incarcerated? You can
BS some but not all. I know you are looking for a broad in Ohio to hide
behind once again. I saw the ad you placed. You didnt mention how
sadistc ansd abusive you are, fat boy. Yes in a way I AM your stalker
but only in the sense of preventing you from cheating others. I could
go on and on about your misdeeds, but sufficient to say, you yourself
in your usual stupidity blew your credibility apart with that post. And
her's something really funny Glen, As darth_is_back@yahoo, in the Ohio
BBW list, you freaking SAY you were arrested and was "Scared" of going
to prison.
Your own post about your court appearance:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.music.video/browse_thread/thread/168025a02804806/c899c257ac4cb874?q=darthisback&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3Ddarthisback%26start%3D0%26scoring%3Dd%26hl%3Den%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#c899c257ac4cb874

Here's where you admit you were arrested:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.music.video/browse_thread/thread/13cd31668eca78b/9f7abff828bbe410?q=darthisback&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3Ddarthisback%26start%3D0%26scoring%3Dd%26hl%3Den%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#9f7abff828bbe41

Hell, you even made arrangements that any fat Ohio broad who wants to
contact you can send their emails to Shell...@aol.com and she will
send the emails to you. Shelley lives in New York. Glen. Sheesh, you
can't even remember what you posted online, stupid.

Oh here is your death threat I clipped from an AOl chat room and
posted:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.videos.bootlegs/browse_thread/thread/d35fd7cec8d9ce39/0d2b5168058bc4db?q=caddiepink&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Dcaddiepink%26qt_s%3DSearch+Groups%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#0d2b5168058bc4db

You are your own worst enemy Glen. Worse yet, you are a habitual liar,
as the links show. But here is the bottom line, should these folks
trust you? You basically shown that you cannot be trusted, that
youlie. Glen/

but its important that
> this person believe that i did so that she can get much more info
incorrect. i
> had never threatened to beat this idiot with a bat

Actually you did, I even posted it online.


but with the literally 1000s
> and 1000s of hours that i devoted into defending myself and getting
past this
> sort of harassment and abuse it is no wonder that she is still alive
i will
> say. many people suggested that i should in fact find her and end
it.

End it? Oh really with just a little talk? NAw you would beat me, I
know, if not kill me, Which would be a really bad decision for you to
do since I have your info and your pic with NO GLAASSES On in a safe
place, and even pathetic homocide investigator can find the clues
leading STRAIGHT TO YOU, dumnmy. See I know what you look like. And I
know how to use a gun. I highly suggest, fat boy, that you have some
smarts and do not try to find me to harm me. because as you have found
out I dont cower to you like Arcadia67 did and I will do whatever is
necessary, including deadly force, if we ever meet and you attack me.
ButI know you try to get others to do the dirty work for you. You
intimidated everyone else and they backed down. Not me.


BTW Glen,that character on " Relic Hunter" was NOT named after you. SO
if you plan to sue them, they can discredit you thoroughly and easlily.

You could have ended this by refunding my money that you cheated me.


Gee doesn't that make you wonder if my warning was legit? I know you
folks don't have the time to Google Frohman's posts to see for
yourselves. He can deride me all he wants, and I admit I enjoy bugging
the fatso. But the bottom line is this. Can you trust him to deal
fairly with you in trades. My answer is NOPE.

Folks I apologize for this long post. You can agree with Glen that I
am what he claims I am, but the pertinent part is how he would treat
YOU if he had a chance. I DID say in my post that I did not know if he
was on the up and up with this. But I think he's back to his sneaky
thieving ways.

Moe

repman17

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Dec 31, 2004, 4:14:51 PM12/31/04
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Darth is a very rude and nasty person. Just yesterday he lied in a chat
room and told everyone he had never been arrested for pirating videos and
that what he went to jail for he was never convicted of. Yet I had proof
and now after seeing these posts I have even more proof that he went to
jail for pirating. He is a very bad man. I myself have not been ripped off
by him, but I highly recommend everyone to stay away from him. He tries to
twist others words around in the chatrooms to try to make everyone else
look like the bad people. But hey you cant argue with the facts hes been
to jail for pirating and he knows it. Why would newspapers lie and why
would he even admit he was going to jail. Why would he admit that he was
going to be charged for it and then lie about it later and say he didnt
get charged. He also loves to talk about people behind their backs. Just a
few days ago he talked down on a lady because she had MS. He is a sick
person and I cant wait until he goes back to prison. This time I hope he
stays for the rest of his life.

repman17

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Dec 31, 2004, 4:15:12 PM12/31/04
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darth

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Jan 1, 2005, 3:32:51 AM1/1/05
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============================
my answer...
In a message dated 1/1/2005 3:14:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
nor...@googlegroups.com writes:
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2004 4:15 pm
From: "repman17"
not that it matters.. but repman17 is a kid who has nothing better to
do than hang out in a chat room online harassing me. he has
been doing this for nearly a year now. he has no clue what hes
talking about and 99% of what he said is false. i have tried
unsuccessfully to correct his misinformation and educated him but
to no avail. what i dont understand is his motive. he doesnt collect
cards.. he collects reptiles. he has never dealt with me and what
i have done in my past is none of his nor anyone elses business.
it has nothing to do with collecting or trading cards. even if his
accusations were truthful.. they have nothing to do with anything
that i currently do. and not that it matters but i have never pirated
any tapes at all. if one was to believe that his statements were true
one would need only to go into the chat room on aol to see that
he is very much hated. he is annoying to all those who come into
the room and wish to talk about collecting. he literally spends
2-4 hours every single nite stalking and harassing others including
myself. he ruins the room for all in there.. but this isnt important
to most of the people that are not in that room or on aol. the only
reason i am responding to this crap is that i do trading on this
group.. and i deal with people here. just remember that just because
someone says something.. doesnt make it so.. he is a known liar
and idiot. and puts an incredible amount of effort into proving his
own stupidity. if one has any questions about this subject feel free
to email me directly and ill answer all and any questions that u ask.
peace

darth

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Jan 1, 2005, 3:40:55 AM1/1/05
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almost all the info that i read by this person is inaccurate.. when
that much is wrong.. its gotta make u wonder how much of it is
accurate. in this case.. i dont see very much that is true at all.
most of the names are people i have either dealt with or know online.
in one case theres a woman who is in her mid 60s and the claim is that
shes my girlfriend. i have never met her and shes in florida. wow.
most of the names i saw on the list of names that are supposed to be
me.. are names i have never heard of or seen before in my life. in some
cases they are people who traded with me or bought from me. some
defended me and therefore were accused of being me. its ridiculous. i
dont deal in tapes anymore.. i only trade non sports cards. been
doing that since early 96. being arrested by the way doesnt mean that
someone is not trustworthy. my arrest has nothing to do with my
honesty or lack there of. also.. just because someone is arrested
doesnt make them guilty of anything.
if anyone wishes to know more about this or anything else. feel free to
contact me directly at the only email address that i use this one.
darth...@aol.com all other email addresses are not me and most
that have been attributed to me arent me or were never me. when they
were... i told people that it was me.. i dont hide who i am. im not
ashamed of it.. i did nothing wrong. i am an honest trader and have
never ever ripped anyone off in any manner at all

darth

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Jan 1, 2005, 3:57:46 AM1/1/05
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there is so much bogus stuff in this posting that i dont know where to
begin. and i wont deal with all of it because it goes on way too long.
most of it is fraudulent tho. if anyone wants to find out directly
from me they may email me and ask me what they wish to know. the
postings u say u saw by me were not by me. i never told anyone to
email shelley on aol because she has her email block on and couldnt
receive email from anyone anyway.. its been that way for atleast 5
years now so i would have never told anyone otherwise. i never
threatened anyone with a bat at all.. i dont even own one. however if
i did.. and was able to find u in person i would love to have the
opportunity. lucky for u i dont have the option to do so. and u
wouldnt stand much of a chance if i did. trust me. but threaten???
that never happened. and pasting a link to faked chat logs isnt proof
of anything. i personally know that the character on relic hunter was
named after me bytheway. as for refunding ur money??? no.. that was
never going to happen. when u buy a tape of bloopers the odds that u
would copy the tape and try to return it for a refund are too high. and
u never even offered to send it back.. u just expected a refund and a
free tape.. that wasnt going to happen. caveat emptor.. if u buy
something thats ur choice.. u knew what u were buying. u chose to buy
it. only an idiot would bid that much on a tape anyway. its a damned
video tape after all.. and u waited 62 days to complain about it.
thats not normal.
that u admit that some of ur info is wrong.. should send a flag up to
anyone wondering how much of it is wrong. and i dont mind telling u
and anyone reading that crap that u posted that atleast 90% of it is
wrong. no one was ever ripped off by me.. there were a few who
tried to rip me off who didnt get their way and werent successful so
they did what they could to make them look like the innocent parties
but no.. i sold tapes and traded tapes for many years and not one
person was ever ripped off.. not even one exception. as for things u
can read in a newspaper . first of all most people know better than to
just blindly believe things they read without wondering if its all
true. the paper did make a few mistakes and not all their info was
accurate. in any event.. i think that ur admission that u are a
stalker says all that needs to be said. i on the other hand am an
honest trader and collector. i dont claim to never make mistakes but i
for sure am nothing that u say i am. murderer??? child pornographer??
gee. cant u think of anything better???
again i say.. if anyone wants more info about me or this idiots
claims.. feel free to email me and ill discuss it with u.

Ted Sallis

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Jan 1, 2005, 8:16:32 AM1/1/05
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A couple of lines jump out at me in your reply.

>most of it is fraudulent tho.


One, the fact that you write tho instead of though is annoying and childish
enough but more troubling is that you admit some measure of what he says is
true. His entire post is so damning that admitting that even a tiny fraction
(you mentioned 1 percent in another reply) is true reason to give one pause if
they were considering doing a trade or buying from you. Judging by some of your
statements it looks to me like two equally self centered and dishonest children
calling each other names, neither one of you is going to convince anyone to be
on your side because you both come off as total losers.
You've obviously done something wrong to this person. Their way of dealing
with it is petty and childish but you're not doing yourself any favors in your
responses there champ.

TS

Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle-Motion.

darth

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Jan 1, 2005, 8:47:32 AM1/1/05
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....my replies are all following the --- and the next subject that i
am replying to in tedsallis' letter / posting is separated by
=========. this is to make reading his comments and my responses easier
to read. this should clear up the following. i hope that this topic
is over now. i would prefer it if it were.


In a message dated 1/1/2005 8:16:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,


teds...@aol.com writes:
One, the fact that you write tho instead of though is annoying and
childish

---
...its a common abbreviation and only a child would worry about such a
thing.
it is certainly nothing to even take the energy and bother to point
out.
==========================

enough but more troubling is that you admit some measure of what he
says is
true.

---
....well when u surround some facts with false statements it makes
everything seem true. sure.. he had some facts right.. but 90% of
what he posted wasnt accurate. i mean he had part of my name
right.. and he has some personal history info right.. cuz he got
it from someone else who spent an exorbitant amount of time
online harassing and stalking me. i had a friend online once who
at one point wasnt a friend.. and he used info that he had gotten
from me in confidence to hurt me by giving it to my enemy.
that enemy posted things on message boards and newsgroups
and such.. and others saw it.. of course.... and went with what
they learned.. and as this idiot has done.. surrounded the truths
with lies and false accusations.
==================================

His entire post is so damning that admitting that even a tiny fraction
(you mentioned 1 percent in another reply) is true reason to give one
pause if
they were considering doing a trade or buying from you.

---
....this may be true.. but just because something someone did
in their life was bad.. doesnt mean that everything about them is
wrong or bad. if u stole a soda in 1984 and u got caught for it
and did 3 days waiting for your trial and then accepted responsibility
for it.. and paid ur fine.. and it was on ur record.. and someone
found out about this and used it against u and added some other
false statements about u to it to make it seem more accurate
and real.. would it be fair to u that people would avoid trading
or dealing with u based on that crap??
even if i was convicted of selling recordings that i made off tv
does that mean that i am not honest when it comes to trading
and selling non sports cards??? cmon now.. use your head!!!
we dont know all there is to know about everyone we trade and
buy from. we dont need to.. its none of our business. their private
lives are just that.. rather than thinking that he could be telling
the truth about me... and worrying about if i am going to rip u
off on a card trade.. maybe u should wonder if he isnt a trader
or buyer of anything i ever dealt in .. what might be his motive?
why not question him rather than me??? who among us has
never been arrested or committed a crime that we got away with?
should we forever be banned from trading or selling or dealing
with others because we came into contact with the law???
=======================================

Judging by some of your
statements it looks to me like two equally self centered and dishonest
children
calling each other names,

---
...i called him no names unless i let an idiot or jerk slip by.
im not self centered. but i have something to lose here he
doesnt. he isnt into cards or selling on line or otherwise.
he is a kid .. im 44.. and he has nothing better to do than
harass me and try to make my life more difficult. me defending
myself in a public forum where the original attacks were
posted.. is not childish at all. nor is it self centered.
=============================

neither one of you is going to convince anyone to be
on your side because you both come off as total losers.
You've obviously done something wrong to this person. Their way of
dealing
with it is petty and childish but you're not doing yourself any favors
in your
responses there champ.

---
....i have done nothing wrong to him.. he just doesnt like me.
we share a room on aol together.. he has violated tos and has
gotten reported for it. we dont see eye to eye on things..
he is offensive and vulgar and abusive.. i dont put up with that
online in rooms i am in. he may not like that. some have sided
with me whom i would imagine he would prefer that they sided
with him.. so he may have a grudge.. thats his problem not mine.

i thought about whether or not i should post a reply or not..
i spent 5 years responding to such crap from 98 to 02. this isnt
new to me. as u probably could tell.
i assume that u are referring to reptileman17 altho i suppose u
could be referring to frevrnite or whatever her name is now.
the former is a kid from an online chat room. . the latter is a long
long story and she is the one who has stalked me for a long time.
anyone else who has posted about me is just a bangwagon
jumper and has nothing better to do than harass and provoke me.

perhaps i should have ignored the posting but then people
might think that what was said is true. and without any defense
it sure appears that it could be.
i have been trading selling buying and dealing in all manners
online since march 94.. on ebay since june 97 and in general
since 1980 or 81.. it used to be bootleg tapes.. audio and video
and yes i was caught and punished. but that is over with
and now i am involved in cards.. i buy sell and trade them.
those who want what i have to offer will trade with me or buy
from me.. if they dont.. they wont.
i lost a lot of business and people lost out on a lot of tapes
they could have had during the 5 yrs i mentioned above
when they chose to believe the stuff they read. now that im not
trying to make a living out of it.. its just a hobby im not as
concerned with it as i was back then.

forevernitefan

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Jan 29, 2005, 4:06:02 AM1/29/05
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Funny you claimed that about ME. Glen.

I guess if you say a lie long enough you think people will believe
you.

I proved that you lied in a previous post.

forevernitefan

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Jan 29, 2005, 4:15:13 AM1/29/05
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actuallyI am female not male, and while it does look like two brats
arguing, my original point was that Frohman has in the past been
dishonest and a thief. Frohamn has denied he was arrested yet his own
tracks online via google shows otherwise.

You can believe me or not, and frankly I don't blame you for
considering all this asinine and juvenile. Basically this whole mess
doesn't matter to non-sports card traders, rxcept for ONE thing-- Is
Frohman trustworthy to trade with? Judging by his video tape trading",
my answer is no.

Like i said, Frohman's responses harm himself more than anything I
could say. The links I posted are all valid. He MAY be on the level
this time in card trading, but to be honest, I would doubt it.

forevernitefan

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Jan 29, 2005, 4:19:54 AM1/29/05
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>>who among us has
never been arrested or committed a crime that we got away with?
should we forever be banned from trading or selling or dealing
with others because we came into contact with the law???>>

Actually Glen there are some folks who abide by the law and have NEVER
been arrested or even have a traffic ticket.
You just exposed yourself to these folks,

darth

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Jan 29, 2005, 9:10:54 AM1/29/05
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In a message dated 1/29/2005 8:51:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
nor...@googlegroups.com writes:
TOPIC: abouth darthcardz was Re: looking to trade
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.collecting.cards.non-sports/browse_thread/thread/fb04797d7d82d2cd
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 29 2005 1:06 am
From: "forevernitefan"

Funny you claimed that about ME. Glen.

I guess if you say a lie long enough you think people will believe
you.

.......i lied about nothing.. and i have no worries about
anyone believing me about anything.. people who want
to know the truth.. have ways to find out. asking me
is one way.. anything i said about u .. was true.. very
little u have said about me is true..


I proved that you lied in a previous post.

.....no u did not prove that i lied at all in any post..
u think u did.. and im sure there are a few idiots out there
who believe u.. but most know that u are a stalker..
and that u lie and make up things and surround the
lies with a few unimportant truths.. so that they all seem
truthful. but the facts remain.. nothing u say about me
is true.. not a damned thing.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 29 2005 1:15 am
From: "forevernitefan"

actuallyI am female not male,

...i know.. thats why i called u maureen mcallister.
its rarely a mans name

and while it does look like two brats
arguing, my original point was that Frohman has in the past been
dishonest and a thief. Frohamn has denied he was arrested yet his own
tracks online via google shows otherwise.

...calling someone a thief doesnt make them one.
i never denied i was arrested.. i do deny many of the
things u did say about me tho.

You can believe me or not, and frankly I don't blame you for
considering all this asinine and juvenile. Basically this whole mess
doesn't matter to non-sports card traders, rxcept for ONE thing-- Is
Frohman trustworthy to trade with? Judging by his video tape trading",
my answer is no.

....since u have never traded with me and there are 100s
and 100s of people who have.. the answer should be yes.
since i dealt in videos and audios for the better part of 23
years.. the odds are that im the most reliable person there
is. no one is asking u to trade cards with me.. u dont even
collect cards u idiot!!! u should have no interest in whether
or not anyone is interested in my cards. i have traded with
various people in the last few months.. and i have had
no problems with anyone. in fact in all the years that i have
been trading cards and tapes .. and that is nearly 25 yrs
now.. i have had less than 10 problems.. if u consider
that i had 24000 tapes in my collection..and that i had
repeated trading with 100s and 100s of people.. and that
i sold to probably a few 1000 people.. its pretty odd that
the one who claims im not trustworthy. is the one who
not only bought a tape.. something she knew was illegal
but who also got said tape.. and who waited over 2 months
to complain about such tape. since u have no trading
record with anyone here.. theres no reason for anyone
here to believe anything u say. no one here is completely
unblemished.. and no one here has never lied in their
lives. but that has nothing to do with reliability in
trading and selling. and it has nothing to do with cards.
the facts remain.. i trade and i deal in cards.. i have
been since 96.. years before u ever heard of me..


Like i said, Frohman's responses harm himself more than anything I
could say. The links I posted are all valid. He MAY be on the level
this time in card trading, but to be honest, I would doubt it.

.....yet u continue to say and say and say.. even if its not true
u dont mind.. u still say. the links are not valid..
what u doubt doesnt matter either.. ur not involved in my
trading. i have never had any problems with anyone who
ever expected to get one of my tapes when i was dealing in
tapes.. getting them.. every one who ever bought one
got it.. and everyone who i ever traded with.. who sent one
got one. thats how i work.. if i get a trade.. i complete it..
i always did.. and always will.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 29 2005 1:19 am
From: "forevernitefan"

.....u can abide by laws and still get arrested. sure there are people
who dont have traffic tickets.. but that just means they werent
caught doing anything wrong. i did nothing wrong. that i
got caught doing what i was doing.. doesnt make it wrong..
u seem to think that u are holier than thou.. as if u never did
anything wrong.. u are a sick individual and u are a liar and
a stalker. explanations and excuses dont matter.. the fact remains
u are sick. and u do a lot that is wrong. that u havent been
caught yet is besides the issue. i have never exposed anything
that i didnt want exposed to anyone. i have nothing to hide.
i am very open and honest with anyone i deal with.
u are judging and presuming for all the people who read these
posts.. and that is idiotic.

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