HOW MANY PITCHES...........
dted...@imap2.asu.edu
: Does anyone know how many pitches Trango Towers in Pakistan is on the
: newly established TRADE ROUTE???? Someone said it was OVER A MILE
: HIGH and 5.12 to 5.14 pitches with all hanging BELAYS and temps in
: the higher els around 32 to freezing. Does this make this the worlds
: most bad ass climb or what?
: CAN ANYONE CONFIRM?????
I can confirm that temps "around 32 to freezing" is about the exact same
(okay, I'm nit picking but I couldn't pass it up).
L8R
Dave
ANDREW COUSSENS
newly established TRADE ROUTE???? Someone said it was OVER A MILE
HIGH and 5.12 to 5.14 pitches with all hanging BELAYS and temps in
the higher els around 32 to freezing. Does this make this the worlds
most bad ass climb or what?
CAN ANYONE CONFIRM?????
ANDREW
Stephen Lee
there's a special on Todd Skinner and his ascent of the Trango Tower,
and where you can post questions to a BBS for Todd to answer.
Why not get it from the horse's mouth?
ANDREW COUSSENS
Chris Weaver
Are you sure you meant horse's *mouth*?
Chris Weaver
James Kruger
(snip..)
> : the higher els around 32 to freezing. Does this make this the worlds
>
> : CAN ANYONE CONFIRM?????
>
> (okay, I'm nit picking but I couldn't pass it up).
>
> L8R
> Dave
>
degrees celsius.
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bsnroot
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Mad Dog
>Perhaps it was 32 degrees kelvin..... That would be most impressive....
A Kelvin is a unit and it should not be followed by "degrees". Thus, it
should be "32 Kelvins" in the above example. Not flaming here, just
commenting. It bugs me just like when the dude sez "Do you have the MSDS
sheet?" (MSDS is the acronym for Materials Safety Data Sheet). And, yes,
climbing in 32 Kelvin weather would be most impressive. And most probably
it would take place on a different planet or asteroid as I don't think the
surface of the Earth gets quite so cold except up here in Michigan where
there is no climbing to speak of.
Babblingly yours, MD
Robert Ternes
jmc...@dow.com (Mad Dog) wrote:
*SNIP*
#commenting. It bugs me just like when the dude sez "Do you have the MSDS
#sheet?" (MSDS is the acronym for Materials Safety Data Sheet). And, yes,
*SNIP*
#
#Babblingly yours, MD
Waaa! Waaa! Hold On, let me call a Waaaambulance!
Actually, that bugs me too: ATM machine, HIV virus, etc.
Robert "But climbing IS based on redundancy!" Ternes
rte...@gas.uug.arizona.edu
Cose Verde
> It bugs me just like when the dude sez "Do you have the MSDS
In the US y'all have the Social Security Number. Here in Canada (where
it routinely feels like 32 K) we have the Social Insurance Number. Many
people ask for your SIN number, but despite the 'error', it'd probably
be weirder to ask for your SIN (unless you're a Catholic priest).
Mike
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>bsnroot wrote:
>>Perhaps it was 32 degrees kelvin..... That would be most impressive....
>A Kelvin is a unit and it should not be followed by "degrees". Thus, it
>should be "32 Kelvins" in the above example. Not flaming here, just
>sheet?" (MSDS is the acronym for Materials Safety Data Sheet).
And then we have RISC machine (Reduced Instruction Set Computer
Machine) and the strange, damaged people who say `...a percentage out
of 100'. Degrees proof against percentage volume and all its merry
permutations. Split infinitives (you chaps over the pond don't seem to
have those, do you?). Prepositions at the end of sentences (except
when parts of compound verbs, of course). People confusing "their"
with "they're" with "there" and "it's" with "its" and "here" with
"hear".
Society crumbles before your eyes, doesn't it, Mr. McCoy?
The summers used to be warmer too. And everybody loved each other.
Sadly contemplating an impending century of disintegration,
Hugh iwth his pipe and slippers
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Paul Woods
I'm sure in your old age there'll be a spot for you in the
"Home for the Excessively Pedantic". Besides, there are
more important things to be bugged by, like "take up slack!"
Best Regards,
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Mad Dog wrote:
> >Perhaps it was 32 degrees kelvin..... That would be most impressive....
>
> A Kelvin is a unit and it should not be followed by "degrees". Thus, it
> should be "32 Kelvins" in the above example. Not flaming here, just
> commenting. It bugs me just like when the dude sez "Do you have the MSDS
Will Abraham
-> Subject: Re: HOW MANY PITCHES...........
->
-> In article <u079500.1...@inet3.nam.dow.com>,
-> jmc...@dow.com (Mad Dog) wrote:
-> *SNIP*
-> #commenting. It bugs me just like when the dude sez "Do you have the
-> #sheet?" (MSDS is the acronym for Materials Safety Data Sheet). And,
-> *SNIP*
-> #
-> #Babblingly yours, MD
->
-> Waaa! Waaa! Hold On, let me call a Waaaambulance!
->
-> Actually, that bugs me too: ATM machine, HIV virus, etc.
->
-> Robert "But climbing IS based on redundancy!" Ternes
-> rte...@gas.uug.arizona.edu
I NEVER use abbrs.
W. "AAAAA member" A.
Steven Cherry
>bsnroot wrote:
>>Perhaps it was 32 degrees kelvin..... That would be most impressive....
>A Kelvin is a unit and it should not be followed by "degrees". Thus, it
>should be "32 Kelvins" in the above example. Not flaming here, just
>commenting.
Actually, "kelvin" in the original sentence was used adjectivally, as
short for "32 degrees (on the Kelvin scale)." In oral communication we
often append additional phrases to disambiguate, instead of starting
a sentence over again. Customs for Usenet communication draw from
both written and oral conventions.
Not flaming, just commenting, but one should be cautious editing others
when real editors are lurking.
-steven-
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Mad Dog
>Society crumbles before your eyes, doesn't it, Mr. McCoy?
Yes indeed - nothing new there.
>The summers used to be warmer too. And everybody loved each other.
Then we ran out of the good stuff.
>Sadly contemplating an impending century of disintegration,
Well I for one don't expect to live that long.
>Hugh iwth his pipe and slippers
Anacsazi Velcros or Ninjas?
Mad "I'm off to see the wizard" Dawg
Mad Dog
>Actually, "kelvin" in the original sentence was used adjectivally, as
>short for "32 degrees (on the Kelvin scale)." In oral communication we
>often append additional phrases to disambiguate, instead of starting
>a sentence over again. Customs for Usenet communication draw from
>both written and oral conventions.
Then why does IUPAC make it clear that "Kelvins" is a unit and that "degrees
Kelvin" is improper terminology? Why would Usenet communication customs
require one to improperly use scientific terminology?
Mad "when is a Kelvin not a Kelvin?" Dawg
Vicki Schwartz
>Then why does IUPAC make it clear that "Kelvins" is a unit and that "degrees
>Kelvin" is improper terminology? Why would Usenet communication customs
>require one to improperly use scientific terminology?
>Mad "when is a Kelvin not a Kelvin?" Dawg
Isn't Kelvin that little kid with a tiger?
Does that mean "degrees Kelvin" could indicate how close you are to
believing that your toys talk?
Vicki "procrastinating as usual" Schwartz
Gladisnose isn't Running...
> In <u079500.1...@inet3.nam.dow.com> jmc...@dow.com (Mad Dog) writes:
>
> >bsnroot wrote:
>
> >>Perhaps it was 32 degrees kelvin..... That would be most impressive....
>
> >A Kelvin is a unit and it should not be followed by "degrees". Thus, it
> >should be "32 Kelvins" in the above example. Not flaming here, just
> >commenting.
>
> Actually, "kelvin" in the original sentence was used adjectivally, as
> short for "32 degrees (on the Kelvin scale)." In oral communication we
> often append additional phrases to disambiguate, instead of starting
> a sentence over again. Customs for Usenet communication draw from
> both written and oral conventions.
>
> Not flaming, just commenting, but one should be cautious editing others
> when real editors are lurking.
You may be a real editor, I don't doubt your credibility, but we in
science
know that there is no such thing as a "degree of Kelvin (no 's')" on the
Kelvin scale. So whether it was used adjectivally or not, it still is
improper - 32 Kelvin (the equivalent of -241.15 degrees Celsius or -402.07
degrees Farenheit) For backup, my calculator, the amazing HP 48GX has,
under the units function a listing of possible temperature units. Degrees
Celsius, degrees Farenheit, Kelvin, and another, degrees 'R' (?)..
Definitely not flaming, but you can take it as such if you feel
that strongly about it, just consult a physics or chemistry text
(university level of course and learn before you speak, just like you said
to the author previous to you!)
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It's an important issue that I really need your help to resolve:
should "anal retentive" be spelled with or without a hyphen?
In article <Pine.A32.3.92.960409...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>
"Gladisnose isn't Running..." <dwan...@acs.ucalgary.ca> writes:
>On 7 Apr 1996, Steven Cherry wrote:
>> In <u079500.1...@inet3.nam.dow.com> jmc...@dow.com (Mad Dog) writes:
>>
>> >bsnroot wrote:
>>
>> >>Perhaps it was 32 degrees kelvin..... That would be most impressive....
>>
>> >A Kelvin is a unit and it should not be followed by "degrees"....
>>
>> Actually, "kelvin" in the original sentence was used adjectivally,....
>>
>You may be a real editor, I don't doubt your credibility, but we in
>science know that there is no such thing as a "degree of Kelvin (no 's')"....
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Mad Dog
>I have a question for all who've posted on the "Kelvin" matter.
>It's an important issue that I really need your help to resolve:
>should "anal retentive" be spelled with or without a hyphen?
That depends upon:
1) if you hiccup while saying it
2) if you're stemmed in a spincter-compromising dihedral
3) if you had too many cheap beers last night
4) if you know absolutely zero about Kelvin
Mad "I once met a girl like that" Dog
Cose Verde
> Isn't Kelvin that little kid with a tiger?
> Does that mean "degrees Kelvin" could indicate how close you are to
> believing that your toys talk?
Actually that's Calvin. Degrees Calvin is a measurement of how much his
parents take before blowing up at him.
Mike
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