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From: b...@halfdom.uucp (Bob Pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.climbing
Subject: Re: Best use of *ugh* climbing wall
Message-ID: <420.28064270@halfdom.uucp>
Date: 13 Apr 91 06:27:44 GMT
References: <3041@borg.cs.unc.edu> <1991Apr9.160657.1549@ico.isc.com>
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In article <1991Apr9.160657.1...@ico.isc.com>, r...@ico.isc.com (Ray Snead) writes:
> Eileen Kupstas writes:
>> Well, guess this is what the group is for; I never would have asked this
>> in rec.backcountry...
>> I have started going to a local climbing wall on and off. I'm not thrilled
>> with the view from the top of the climb BUT I need to stay in some (minimal)
>> shape for climbing in the big outdoors when I get a chance. So, given that
>> my motivation is one of exercise, what should I be emphasizing during my
>> time at the wall? Hard climbs (push my limits), easier climbs with more 
>> repetitions on the climb ...
> Having spent quite a bit of time in the rock gym this winter, I have been
> asking myself the same questions. 

me too!

> I got off to a bad start a few years ago when the first real rock gym (CATS)
>...
> This winter, a new gym opened in Denver (Paradise), which caters to people
>...

and i climb at city rock in the bay area of california.

> Here are some empirical principles:
> 
>    0) Warm up! If you don't, you will injure yourself. Stretch. Do moderate
>       routes first. Some should exercise large muscles (jug hauling); work
>       into routes that exercise the fingers a little.

yes!  perhaps even row or bike for 5-10 minutes to warm up the muscles a bit
before you stretch.  just hop on and pedal or row, don't go for speed/distance.

>    1) You want both maximum effort and repetitions for a balanced workout.
>       I generally segement the visit into four parts:
> 	a) Warm UP! This is really the most important part, unless
> 	   you want tendon injuries.

yes again!  work on routes you know you could lead w/out a fall.  that way
you wont over-do it.

> 	b) Only when you are ready, try your hardest routes. This is
> 	   when I try 'grudge' climbs that I couldn't do last week,
> 	   and new things at my limit. This is typically the period
> 	   when your fingers take the heat. When they tire, move on.
> 	c) Now do routes that emphasize more big muscles to give your
> 	   fingers a rest. These are routes that were hard last week,
> 	   you might have them wired, etc. Steep!

i will interchange these.  some days my big muscles will be in better 
shape than my fingers.

> 
> 	d) Burnout! Pick a (hopefully overhanging) but moderate route.
> 	   Finish yourself off by doing laps: climb up, touch the top,
> 	   climb down to the lowest holds but don't touch the ground,
> 	   repeat until you fall off. Don't give up-- go to failure.
> 	   Now your partner has a go. When s/he falls off: your turn!
> 	   Repeat until it seems absurd.

city rock has a cave. with a big roof onto an overhanging staircase.  this
is where i do my burnouts.


> A prediction: indoor gyms will radically increase standards, at every
> level. A day or two in the gym per week, and anyone's climbing will
> improve significantly...

mine has... 

but there are also a bunch of people there who do not climb *real* rock.
i was talking with one guy and we were disucssing the beta on a 5.11a.
i asked him about what kind of stuff he was leading and he said, "leading?
like outdoors?  oh, i've never done that."

i look at gym climbing as training, not as an end in itself.  physical 
training as well as mental - it has helped build my confidence and my 
technique, not just my muscles. YMMV. 

-- 
- bob pasker
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