Shut it down and kill the parasites
Frogwatch
Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.
Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe
inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but
soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be
their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value
of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay
themselves and their union buddies.
Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about.
Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax
rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be
in that tax bracket due to inflation.
Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply
trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of
those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to
bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary.
Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your
local govt bureaucrat.
This is a war and wars have casualties.
True North
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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Y'all sure do resent paying your fair share of taxes.
Harryk
> Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
> Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
> not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
> govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.
Just another crazy teahadist who hates America.
emde...@hush.com
wrote:
He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing
though.
Harryk
You don't really think he pays a "fair share"of taxes, do you? These
teahadists are just users...they think they are entitled to a free ride.
Frogwatch
> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400, Harryk <payer3...@mypacks.net>
We expect these parasites to scream and yell and call every name they
can think of as their source of blood is taken away. Ignore them and
make the cuts or you will be calling them "Master" in a few years.
This is a war and we stand the chance of losing but if we do not fight
the war against the statists and their cronies, we lose anyway.
HarryisPaul
@gmail.com says...
No, it's just we're not like you, just lie down and take whatever
anybody wants to throw your way. No wonder your son made you get his
beer for him.
Harryk
My recollection is that froggy about gave up on whatever his little
commercial company was doing. He's probably driving down the highway
collecting empty bottles he can turn in for the deposit.
HarryisPaul
@mypacks.net says...
You stupid ass, he owns a business, he buys goods for his business, he
buys food, he buys gas, pays income tax. How is he NOT paying his fair
share, dipshit?
HarryisPaul
emde...@hush.com says...
A smart person plans their retirement privately instead of counting on
the government to hold their hand.
Harryk
Froggy heard that Faux News is looking for a replacement for Glenn Beck.
True North
"HarryisPaul" wrote in message
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Kevin... why do you feel it is necessary to continually bring innocent
family members into this cesspool??
Harryk
He's run out of little girl arms to break.
jps
Let's start in your state and see how it works out.
HarryisPaul
@gmail.com says...
Because I'm not Kevin, but thanks for making yourself look stupid once
again! Now, let me answer your question anyway, you moron. You and Harry
continually bring up Scotty and his innocent daughter, and loogy's
daughter's misfortune as well as his wife's. You get what you deserve
you low life piece of shit.
HarryisPaul
@mypacks.net says...
See Don? You reap what you so, you little fucking coward.
Canuck57
> Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
> Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
> not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
> govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.
Agreed, the best way to cure debt addiction is just like heroin or
alcohol addiction, cold turkey.
> Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe
> inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but
> soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be
> their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value
> of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay
> themselves and their union buddies.
Inflation is already on a roll big time. Oil, gold, silver, copper,
wheat, barley, foods -- they are not up in value, they are the same as
they were a 100 years ago when gold was $19/oz.
What is happening is the USD isn't worth as much today as it was
yesterday (literally).
> Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about.
> Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax
> rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be
> in that tax bracket due to inflation.
Just like "The Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs".
My guess is cuts will be token. If they don't cut at least a trillion
right this year, I would not take DC efforts seriously.
More importantly, US Fed Bernake has to stop new inflationary money
creation. If government wants money they need to go out to the markets
and pay a real interest rate and legitimately borrow real money.
Firing Bernake would be good too. The man is a fraudster criminal.
> Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply
> trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of
> those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to
> bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary.
When the big bubble crashes, it will be the lower classes that hurt the
worst. Upper middle class and upper classes will fair well with their
oil, precious metals and must have stocks that can pass on the
government created inflation.
> Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your
> local govt bureaucrat.
> This is a war and wars have casualties.
Agreed, when someone says sacred, sharpen the knives and start hacking.
I really doubt any serious effort would leave any budget untouched be
it the Whitehouse staff or the coffee machine in Guam.
This is a war on chronic debt addiction.
Canuck57
top 20% pays 80% of the taxes, get over it. Must be depressing to wait
for the social assistance?
You just tipped your hand, you are not very well off at all. Or you
would know that.
Canuck57
The dipshit harryk thinks his social assistance isn't enough.
Harryk
Your comment has nothing to do with whether frogbreath pays a fair share
of taxes. Aren't any of you teahadists capable of reading for content?
Canuck57
Nope, bad debtors (including governments), lefties and money for nothing
types and corrupt are what is destroying America.
Looks like the USD got a shit kicking today on the markets. Oil, gold
up to new highs. Rapid hyper-stagflation is coming to you.
Reason is simple. If Feds can borrow as no one in the world (literally)
will lend real money to them any more, creating new inflationary fiat
money faster than toilet paper is actively devaluing the USD currency.
Yep, Obama promised change, and you gasoline costs are going to double
shortly unless congress does something really miraculous. The miracle
would have to be a balanced budget and let the interest rate be set by
the market. No more free ponzi money for corrupt banks and wasteful
governments.
There is a myth here. Government does not really control interest
rates, the market does. Truth is government creates inflation moneys
and loans it under value in a fraud scheme. A ponzi scheme really.
Just saddles the burden on the people. Huge political con game against
the people by Obama and debt addicts.
Canuck57
Debt and social assistance are in my believe, addictions. He fears the
worst, a sudden withdrawal of the fix.
Harryk
> On 07/04/2011 9:21 AM, Harryk wrote:
>> Frogwatch wrote:
>>> Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
>>> Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
>>> not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
>>> govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.
>>
>>
>> Just another crazy teahadist who hates America.
>
> Nope, bad debtors (including governments), lefties and money for nothing
> types and corrupt are what is destroying America.
What is destroying America:
1. Corporate and financial sector looters
2. Multinational corporations
3. Hard-line teahadists
Canuck57
Yep. I learned early, in my name, in my account, under my absolute
control and the rest is BS.
When asked company pension versus the newer 401K match for example, I
opted 401K (now in my IRA) and many said I was nuts. They are still
working and my IRA performance blows away the company plans so bad...
For example my IRA was 85% cash on the 2008 crash and come when the real
deals came in the spring....well... can't beat that.
Yep, in your name, in your account, under your absolute control because
the best person to trust is yourself.
Canuck57
Actually, the best thing any politicians with any vision at all is to
start passing laws preventing out of control debts be they city, county,
state or federal. Just say NO to more DEBT.
Let the system work it out. If they have to lay the city/state/fed off
for 3 months a year so be it.
A good business manager always knows what the limit is on what he should
pay. Time this came to the civil service.
Canuck57
Thanks for the confirmation fleabagger. Read the fable "The Goose That
Canuck57
1 - the criminal ones like Harvard's own Wagoner and criminal bank CEOs
you bet. But stock brokerages and the market no. The market is defined
on futures and millions of people that are not corrupted define its
value. I am one of those millions.
2 - Huge hog wash, blame deflection. If you can't compete you are a
loser. Cut the fat, make a better widget more efficiently and you will
succeed. Shake the $12M CEO loose and get the lard out. No CEO in the
US is worth more than a million. Corruption at the top though the whole
system including government.
3) - funny, just jealous of those that do better than you. But then, we
don't spend time thinking about children.
Frogwatch
The dems destroyed the economy thru not reigning in Fannie mae and
Freddie MAc when they were warned about the problem by the Repubs in
2005 and Barney Frank said there was nothing wrong. OF course, they
(Fannie and Freddie) gave huge amounts of money to Obama. Legit
bondholders got screwed in the nationalization of GM and Chrysler.
The Dems gave $787 billion to Obama cronies in the "bailout". The
dems have now run up so many trillions in debt that there is no
reasonable way to pay it off except by massive inflation. The Dems
ran the oil companies out of the Gulf of Mexico resulting in a
doubling of gasoline costs and a huge increase in food inflation.
This is our last chance to save the republic. IF the Dems win, we
will soon be a version of China in North America with crony capitalism
running everything (look at GE now getting away with paying no tax
because they are a big Obama contributor). Party affiliation will
determine who is successful and who is not.
In such a battle, there will be casualties. I expect them to be the
poor who are suffering the most from inflation caused by Dem policies
and some people who truly rely on the govt but the survival of our
republic is on the line. We must hold out for extreme cuts no matter
what they say. Their corruption and attempts to preserve their lavish
lifestyles the working people are paying for will cause them to make
up lies and invent "news". If we fail this time, the only remaining
option will be revolution.
True North
"HarryisPaul" wrote in message
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See Don? You *reap what you so*, you little fucking coward.
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Say what... "you reap what you so"???
~~ Snerk ~~ Kevin, lay off the special crop.... it's not doing you any
favours.
True North
"HarryisPaul" wrote in message
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Do you still work?
Does your employer at the engineering consulting company know what you do on
company time?
Lil Abner
> Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
> Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
> not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
> govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.
>
> Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe
> inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but
> soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be
> their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value
> of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay
> themselves and their union buddies.
>
> Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about.
> Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax
> rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be
> in that tax bracket due to inflation.
>
> Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply
> trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of
> those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to
> bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary.
>
> Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your
> local govt bureaucrat.
> This is a war and wars have casualties.
Why aren't there any cuts in susidies for ethanol and giant Agribusiness
and no taxes for foreign or Global Corporations that make their money in
America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic?
Frogwatch
No, most vets and SS recips are good people, it is the bureaucrats who
are parasites. However, the mindset of relying on SS or even too much
vet care is a symptom of the cancer of too much govt and this has to
change.
When fighting a cancer, sometimes you attack the blood vessels that
feed it. In the case of the cancer riddling our govt, the blood
vessels carry money and shutting off the supply of money can reduce
the size of the cancer. Many of the cancer cells think they have a
right to exist but being dangerous, we should not worry about what
they think. If they were somewhere else, they would not be dangerous
but being part of the govt makes them cancerous.
Sometimes when fighting leukemia, we have to kill the entire supply of
cells (in this case the bone marrow) and by analogy we may have to
shut down the source of cancer cells, the govt itself and resurrect it
later by an infusion of clean cells.
If the cancer metastasizes, it is usually too late because it spreads
throughout the entire economic body damaging every organ it
encounters. In our society, this would mean that the sense of
entitlement spreads sufficiently that we cannot kill it off. It
requires ever more resources until the economic body dies.
In some ways, our economic situation is even more dire because the
cancer itself is semi-intelligent and has decided that keeping itself
alive is the purpose of the rest of the body so the body becomes a
slave to the parasitical cancer. Sometimes the cancer re-routes blood
vessels going to legit body parts thru itself causing damage to these
parts if the cancer is killed.
It is time for radical therapy, shut down the flow of money that
sustains the cancer and then we will have to be ever vigilant to
publicly identify new outbreaks and excise them. Many “good” cells
will die in the process but it is necessary for the body to survive.
Canuck57
> The dems destroyed the economy thru not reigning in Fannie mae and
> Freddie MAc when they were warned about the problem by the Repubs in
Absolutely correct. Like GM, Fanny and Freddie -- no job, bad credit
high risk, no problem we loan money for democrat votes and BS economics.
Criminal actually.
And the huge amount of fraud, house flipping for faked appreciation ot
banks cooking up mortgage papers to hide the true creditor -- HUGE
amount of organized corruption going on. And not one of the
Omama-Democratic buddies in jail.
The result, Freddie and Fannie are multi-trillion dollar boat anchors on
taxpayers. Government should have never bought them in the first place.
> Legit
> bondholders got screwed in the nationalization of GM and Chrysler.
Essentially that what happened. Creditors were denied their court time
for asset recovery. Obama broke the law here, as a secured holder has
the rights to the security. If a president can't honor that, then
lending money in Venezuela or Cuba would be a safer bet.
Which s also why the economy is tilting big. No one in their right mond
lends money today. Lender gets all the risk and a value loss. Just buy
oil or gold to protect against currency depreciation (inflation).
> The Dems gave $787 billion to Obama cronies in the "bailout". The
> dems have now run up so many trillions in debt that there is no
> reasonable way to pay it off except by massive inflation. The Dems
That is the idea, deflate the value of the debt with inflation. But
they didn't count on the economy collapsing and crashing. Initially it
was deflaionary. But Bernake and his criminal idiots don't have a basic
grip of economics You can't have inflation if people have less money --
it begets unemployment.
Trouble is with Obama's 4 trillion in waste spending hitting he streets,
that should be worth 50% inflation at least.
> ran the oil companies out of the Gulf of Mexico resulting in a
> doubling of gasoline costs and a huge increase in food inflation.
Now, they need $150/barrel futures to cover insurance on BP style
losses. Plus the capital to start back up. Huge investment in a
politically unstable government. Better off in Brazil or Asia.
> This is our last chance to save the republic.
You are optimistic. If Congrss does not cut at least a trillion of the
debt-corruption spend THIS YEAR then forget saving, think preserving
your wealth as Zimbabwe style is coming.
> In such a battle, there will be casualties. I expect them to be the
> poor who are suffering the most from inflation caused by Dem policies
> and some people who truly rely on the govt but the survival of our
> republic is on the line. We must hold out for extreme cuts no matter
> what they say. Their corruption and attempts to preserve their lavish
> lifestyles the working people are paying for will cause them to make
> up lies and invent "news". If we fail this time, the only remaining
> option will be revolution.
Poor always suffer the most. If I lost $100K in the market I still
enjoy the best and don't think twice about it. When the poor lose a
job, they are screwed.
Hey, I was once a working class taxed poor. The income tax system is
designed to keep workers working poor. I still remember. But I held
true with some very real conservative philosophies and they paid in gold.
If congress doesn't ask and get a trillion dollar cut this year in debt
spend, USA is washed up for a least 10 years just like 1932 to 1941.
Lil Abner
> will die in the process but it is necessary for the body to survive.
rely on it. I've tried to go outside. It's expensive. Insurance we
thought we had decided we didn't. Huge, to us bills.
Not relying on VA is not an option. Cost Effective thanks Bush.
Canuck57
No, neither are. You leftie parasite and fleabaggers always pick the
groups that justify the government but ignore the majority of hangers
and leaches. In fact you try to justify the whole government on 7% of
the spending. Stupid.
How about this huge one, that consumes more than was ever spent on SS,
disabled and vets combined times 50.
Freddie Mac, Fanny Mae and GMAC. Hey, no more loans to losers!!!
Getting a loan isn't a right, it is an earned privilege. If you don't
have a good credit score and a means to pay for it, too freaking bad.
Huge trillions go wasted into these corrupt money for nothing so called
banks.
And 1000's of subsidies. Forget them all. Just leaches on the hind.
And war manufactures, cut a trillion from the military. Funding UN
covert missions in Ivory Coast, Egypt, Libya etc. is so not needed for
the benefit of Americans...cancel it all. Why have 11 carriers when say
6 will due.
1 in 4 reduction in government head count. Make up the labor shortage
by targeting efficiencies. Union stands in the way? Lay them off and
outsource it.
There, now you have a surplus. And people get treatment for vets,
disabled and social security. Sustainable.
Canuck57
>> will die in the process but it is necessary for the body to survive.
> Relying on Vet care. I never thought I would be in this situation. i
> rely on it. I've tried to go outside. It's expensive. Insurance we
> thought we had decided we didn't. Huge, to us bills.
> Not relying on VA is not an option. Cost Effective thanks Bush.
Obama has already doubled in 27 months Bush's debt in 8 years. Obama is
a "In Debt We Trust!" president.
Boating All Out
says...
>
> On 07/04/2011 12:34 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
>
> > The dems destroyed the economy thru not reigning in Fannie mae and
> > Freddie MAc when they were warned about the problem by the Repubs in
>
> Absolutely correct. Like GM, Fanny and Freddie -- no job, bad credit
> high risk, no problem we loan money for democrat votes and BS economics.
>
> Criminal actually.
>
He sure was. Don't know how many times I saw that dumb ass GW Bush
brag about "record home ownership."
The House was controlled by Republicans until 2007.
And the dysfunctional Senate had a Republican majority 2003-2007.
Never saw more stupid asses than you two.
Except for Scotty, of course.
That SOB GWB and his Republican pals in Congress drove this great
country into debt from the getgo.
The Democrats were just stupid passengers on that wagon.
Now the Republican dopes are fighting any Wall Street regulation.
Look for higher taxes idiots, because it's going to happen.
Time to stop being deadbeats.
One other thing about Frogwatch wanting revolution.
He'd be one of the first to get hung when a "revolution" pulls the
traitors from the ranks of the Patriots.
If Obama doesn't wise up and start fighting the Republican trash, he
could face the same rope from a revolution.
Canadian trash opposing the Patriots can fend for themselves.
Not worth a trial and hanging, just shoot on sight.
That's how Boating All Out, the patriotic boater, sees it.
Don't bother disagreeing. It'll get you nothing but more disdain.
Just came by here holding my nose to warn you that decent folks know
trash when they smell it.
Lil Abner
Until they stop Lobbying from Corporations and Special interest and
their dollars we are at their mercy.
They destroyed the real tax base of Midle America with good jobs and
good pay and benefits. No or reduced incomes means lot less tax dollars
to operate the Republic. Corporations that make their money in America
on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic are the blame too.
emde...@hush.com
<ohar...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Apr 7, 11:27 am, emdepl...@hush.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400, Harryk <payer3...@mypacks.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Frogwatch wrote:
>> >> Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
>> >> Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
>> >> not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
>> >> govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.
>>
>> >Just another crazy teahadist who hates America.
>>
>> He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing
>> though.
>
>We expect these parasites to scream and yell and call every name they
>can think of as their source of blood is taken away. Ignore them and
>make the cuts or you will be calling them "Master" in a few years.
>This is a war and we stand the chance of losing but if we do not fight
>the war against the statists and their cronies, we lose anyway.
You obviously majored in stupid.
emde...@hush.com
wrote:
I'm sure you're net worth is at least $100.
Canuck57
Agreed. And at this point it does not mater. Going forward needs to be
fixed ASAP.
> Until they stop Lobbying from Corporations and Special interest and
> their dollars we are at their mercy.
Agreed. In reality lobbyists are really bribery and corruption.
> They destroyed the real tax base of Midle America with good jobs and
> good pay and benefits. No or reduced incomes means lot less tax dollars
> to operate the Republic. Corporations that make their money in America
> on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic are the blame too.
Yep, government revenue has imploded.
But the top 20% pays 80% of the taxes. Get over it. Low wage earners
pay very little.
Canuck57
That would be my after tax hourly rate yep.
emde...@hush.com
wrote:
What dumdum. Net worth is a well-defined concept. Look it up. I'm even
including your single-wide trailer trash home.
bob
>Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them.
>Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do
>not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the
>govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living.
yeah he will.
until he takes an airplane flight without air traffic controllers
or until another terrorist attack
or until a nuclear meltdown happens because there are no NRC
inspectors
or until his kids get poisoned by food because the USDA isnt
inspecting food producers
or until veterans start dying because the VA hospitals shut down
>
>Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe
>inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending
let's see...the GOP caused the largest component of the deficit with
their tax cuts AND the medicare drug coverage program
but the right blames it on the dems because their leader is
black
but
>soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be
>their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value
>of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay
>themselves and their union buddies.
let's see. in ONE year, wall street dropped the value of 401k's by 30%
in one year
and his solution is to turn our economy over to wall street.
how's that working out?
>
>Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about.
>Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax
>rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be
>in that tax bracket due to inflation.
hey the upper income folks broke the economy. let them pay for it
>
>Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply
>trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of
>those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to
>bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary.
meaningless. the rich dont work. the middle class does. the GOP wants
to reduce taxes on non working rich people and tax the middle class to
pay for it
Lil Abner
Treasury's income. Corporate Income taxes produce just 12%. The
difference comes from tariffs, excise taxes etc.
The biuun that they float around from time to time of being economically
abused is just so much BS. Most don't pay any US taxes. They generously
engineered loopholes and pay little of nothing. Even deferring taxes her
until the money is repatriated. It never is repatriated and when that
outfit is bought that money disappears.
Canuck57
Hey jack ass, why would I work for others? I make more in care and
feeding in my own investments. They sure are paying hansomely this week.
You are right, 1/2 acre and 2850 sq/ft is too big for just the two of
us. All paid for. I have 3 rooms I haven't been into for over a year.
A waste really.
Canuck57
People over estimate how much money corporations really make. Many
don't pay much taxes for past losses or they MAKE NO MONEY. Which is
part of the problem as corporate tax rates are not much different than
individuals, 15 to 35%.
The biggest reason to own a company is that over time you hope it
appreciates at inflation and pays a dividend while you wait. Problem is
they are generally not appreciating as fast as inflation which makes
them bad investments. So no one invests and poor job prospects.
Companies do pay taxes, just don't make enough money to pay the huge
needs of DC with.
At some point government got too big and too greedy for a sustainable
economy. I believe it was 2006. But in any case, $1.6 trillion
overspend by DC is clearly not sustainable without hyper-stagflation.
Doesn't mater how you cut it, in value terms, in ounces of gold and
barrels of oil, wheat, copper or toilet paper, the US government will be
forced to spend less.
Question is how much inflation do you want with that?
Canuck57
Bone heads and fleabaggers like you dont understand how Wall Street
works. It is simply a market where buyers meet sellers and exchange is
made. If few buy and many want to sell the price goes down. The
opposite is also true, if many want to buy but few want to sell the
price goes up. Collectively 10's of millions of people contribute to
pricing. Piss us off witht he coming of Obama and the market crashed.
What did you expect?
Fraud is Harvard buddy Wagoner of GM, running bankrupt and corrupt for
so long. Obama bailing them out, and spilling taxpayer funded debt to
bailout corruption. Bailing out some bank because a big Saudi Bin Laden
deposits money there.
Your enemy is the corruption and that includes right to the president of
the United Depreciating States of America. Government bloat, SEC
watching porn and not going after criminals. Fannie Mae and Freddy
make, a trillion dollar corruption pond bilking taxpayers and The Obama
too cowardly to fix any of it, but is willing to make it worse.
Even true capitalists would love to see the corruption wiped out but
people vote too stupid.
Like I have said before Osama be proud of Obama Bin laden.
emde...@hush.com
wrote:
Hey dummy, you CAN'T work for others. Who would have you who has half
a brain.
Living in a squalid trailer park doesn't count in the square footage
calculation.
Canuck57
No, others work for me. I like it that way.
bob
wrote:
>On 07/04/2011 5:58 PM, bob wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
>> <ohar...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> hey the upper income folks broke the economy. let them pay for it
>>
>>>
>>> Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply
>>> trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of
>>> those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to
>>> bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary.
>>
>> meaningless. the rich dont work. the middle class does. the GOP wants
>> to reduce taxes on non working rich people and tax the middle class to
>> pay for it
>
>Bone heads and fleabaggers like you dont understand how Wall Street
>works
well right away we can tell you've sucked down the wall street
bullshit
wall street DOESNT work. that's the PROBLEM! if it DID work we wouldnt
have had to BAIL THEM OUT YOU RIGHT WING MORON!!
how much FUCKING EVIDENCE do you NEED to realize you're FUCKED??
. It is simply a market where buyers meet sellers and exchange is
>made. If few buy and many want to sell the price goes down. The
>opposite is also true, if many want to buy but few want to sell the
>price goes up. Collectively 10's of millions of people contribute to
>pricing. Piss us off witht he coming of Obama and the market crashed.
>What did you expect?
bullshit. why?
because WS ALSO invents financial instruments like COLLATERALIZE DEBT
SWAPS.
they went from 320 BILLION in 1997
to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 2007
in 10 years they increased by a factor of 2000%
TWO THOUSAND PERCENT. and you IGNORE that while you bleat your RIGHT
WING BULLSHIT about HOW GLORIOUS wall street works!!
wall street FUCKED and and YOU tell us how WONDERFUL this is!!
>
>Fraud is Harvard buddy Wagoner of GM, running bankrupt and corrupt for
>so long. Obama bailing them out, and spilling taxpayer funded debt to
>bailout corruption. Bailing out some bank because a big Saudi Bin Laden
>deposits money there.
uh...the GM bailout was started under
bush
>Even true capitalists would love to see the corruption wiped out but
>people vote too stupid.
>
>Like I have said before Osama be proud of Obama Bin laden.
racist. you tell us taht our job as a country is to support wall
street and make sure blacks dont get into office
Canuck57
Bush only spent $13 billion at Obama's request to keep the greedy
welshers going until Obama could pork $100 billion more into GM and GMAC.
But Bush did start the bank corruption roll. All the calls to the
senators and congress to get bush to do the dirty work. Someone likely
remnded Bush that Carlyle is where some of Daddies money was. Same
Carlye Group Bin Laden family interests were held in.
Like I said, all of DC is corrupt to the core.
>> Even true capitalists would love to see the corruption wiped out but
>> people vote too stupid.
>>
>> Like I have said before Osama be proud of Obama Bin laden.
>
> racist. you tell us taht our job as a country is to support wall
> street and make sure blacks dont get into office
Hey, what a better way to defeat the USA than get a greed pandering
president, load them up with debt and corruption... bailout Saudi
buddies in bad US banks and private equity leaving the people with
massive debts.
And do it from the INSIDE. Lots of time to setup Obama. Hilary was
going to get it but back room money chickened out as it didn't look like
Hilary could swing the vote and a McCain/Palin was too honest for DC.
So they moved Obama up to get the black race vote.
If it was engineered, priceless. If it wasn't, you need better
leadership stock.
Canuck57
> . It is simply a market where buyers meet sellers and exchange is
>> made. If few buy and many want to sell the price goes down. The
>> opposite is also true, if many want to buy but few want to sell the
>> price goes up. Collectively 10's of millions of people contribute to
>> pricing. Piss us off witht he coming of Obama and the market crashed.
>> What did you expect?
>
> bullshit. why?
>
> because WS ALSO invents financial instruments like COLLATERALIZE DEBT
> SWAPS.
Why do you think I started exiting banks, mortgages and USD in 2004 to
2008? You could see this a mile away if you read something else other
than Keynes debt monger fantasies.
I haven't dealt with loaning others money nor debt, nor bond, nor
T-Bills or squat to do with debt at all since 2007.
Hey one of the tips I had came from a 1930's conservative finance book
talking about 1929 and 1932.
Why? Did you get stuck in the 2008 crash? Funny, I was cashed up.
Sure had a good pick of cheap stocks in Jan-Mar of 2009.
Don't go blind with liberalism's greed. Gets you killed every time.
> they went from 320 BILLION in 1997
>
> to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 2007
>
> in 10 years they increased by a factor of 2000%
It wasn't they. It was GREEDY Americans borrowing their life style.
2008 is just when someone said they wanted to be paid back and no one
could find the real money.
> TWO THOUSAND PERCENT. and you IGNORE that while you bleat your RIGHT
> WING BULLSHIT about HOW GLORIOUS wall street works!!
>
> wall street FUCKED and and YOU tell us how WONDERFUL this is!!
Yep, all you liberal leftie fleabaggers thought you could borrow your
way into the middle class with a low class attitude.
>> Fraud is Harvard buddy Wagoner of GM, running bankrupt and corrupt for
>> so long. Obama bailing them out, and spilling taxpayer funded debt to
>> bailout corruption. Bailing out some bank because a big Saudi Bin Laden
>> deposits money there.
>
> uh...the GM bailout was started under
>
> bush
At Obama's request from TARP, $13 billion to keep them going for Obama o
deal with when he was in office. And not one peep out of Congress for
misappropriation of TARP funds. You know that was a conspiracy to have
the lame term president take the heat?
I openly called Obama a criminal Bin Laden family criminal because
Carlye, a major benefactor of GM bailout had Bush and bin Laden family
moneys in it.
>> Even true capitalists would love to see the corruption wiped out but
>> people vote too stupid.
>>
>> Like I have said before Osama be proud of Obama Bin laden.
>
> racist. you tell us taht our job as a country is to support wall
> street and make sure blacks dont get into office
Ya, I hate corrupt white boys and I hate corrupt black boys so I must be
racist.
Typical leftie fleabagger slander.
bob
wrote:
>On 08/04/2011 5:15 PM, bob wrote:
>> On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:43:39 -0600, Canuck57<Canu...@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>> because WS ALSO invents financial instruments like COLLATERALIZE DEBT
>> SWAPS.
>>
>> they went from 320 BILLION in 1997
>>
>> to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 2007
>>
>> in 10 years they increased by a factor of 2000%
>>
>> TWO THOUSAND PERCENT. and you IGNORE that while you bleat your RIGHT
>> WING BULLSHIT about HOW GLORIOUS wall street works!!
>>
>> wall street FUCKED and and YOU tell us how WONDERFUL this is!!
>>
>>>
>>> Fraud is Harvard buddy Wagoner of GM, running bankrupt and corrupt for
>>> so long. Obama bailing them out, and spilling taxpayer funded debt to
>>> bailout corruption. Bailing out some bank because a big Saudi Bin Laden
>>> deposits money there.
>>
>> uh...the GM bailout was started under
>>
>> bush
>
>Bush only spent $13 billion at Obama's request to keep the greedy
>welshers going until Obama could pork $100 billion more into GM and GMAC.
ah. so bush AND obama spent money on GM
but you blame ONLY obama
>
>But Bush did start the bank corruption roll.
who bailed out JP morgan?
bush
who started TARP?
bush
but you blame only obama
All the calls to the
>senators and congress to get bush to do the dirty work.
so obama called bush and ordered him to start the tarp program
before obama was president
and, it seems, you're the only one that knows this OR it could be that
you're making this up
because you have something against the (black) president
Someone likely
>remnded Bush that Carlyle is where some of Daddies money was. Same
>Carlye Group Bin Laden family interests were held in.
yep. rumsfeld had previous experience with the carlyle group.
he worked for
bush.
>
>Like I said, all of DC is corrupt to the core.
>
>>> Even true capitalists would love to see the corruption wiped out but
>>> people vote too stupid.
>>>
>>> Like I have said before Osama be proud of Obama Bin laden.
>>
>> racist. you tell us taht our job as a country is to support wall
>> street and make sure blacks dont get into office
>
>Hey, what a better way to defeat the USA than get a greed pandering
>president, load them up with debt and corruption... bailout Saudi
>buddies in bad US banks and private equity leaving the people with
>massive debts.
let's see...day after 9/11 the US branch of the bin laden family was
flown out of the US on planes arranged by
bush
the TARP program was started by
bush
>
>And do it from the INSIDE. Lots of time to setup Obama. Hilary was
>going to get it but back room money chickened out as it didn't look like
>Hilary could swing the vote and a McCain/Palin was too honest for DC.
>So they moved Obama up to get the black race vote.
let's see....hilary was only a senator and obama wasnt president
so your argument is that bush was completely innocient
obama, unbenknownst to ANYONE, except to YOU, manipulated bush into
the TARP program and into bailing out wall street.
do we need any more proof that you hate obama 'cuz he's black??
bob
wrote:
>On 08/04/2011 5:15 PM, bob wrote:
>
>> . It is simply a market where buyers meet sellers and exchange is
>>> made. If few buy and many want to sell the price goes down. The
>>> opposite is also true, if many want to buy but few want to sell the
>>> price goes up. Collectively 10's of millions of people contribute to
>>> pricing. Piss us off witht he coming of Obama and the market crashed.
>>> What did you expect?
>>
>> bullshit. why?
>>
>> because WS ALSO invents financial instruments like COLLATERALIZE DEBT
>> SWAPS.
>
>Why do you think I started exiting banks, mortgages and USD in 2004 to
>2008? You could see this a mile away if you read something else other
>than Keynes debt monger fantasies.
gee. the right wing told us that the market was infallible. in fact
the GOP and the right TODAY refuses to regulate wall street because
they think it's infallible
and you ignore that
>
>I haven't dealt with loaning others money nor debt, nor bond, nor
>T-Bills or squat to do with debt at all since 2007.
and this is what passes for 'evidence' on the right
anecdotes
homey stories. fairy tales and bedtime stories
any evidence? statistical analysis?
nope. nothing.
>
>Hey one of the tips I had came from a 1930's conservative finance book
>talking about 1929 and 1932.
>
>Why? Did you get stuck in the 2008 crash? Funny, I was cashed up.
>Sure had a good pick of cheap stocks in Jan-Mar of 2009.
now let's see...the right ENGINEERED the biggest crash since 29 and he
tells us it never happened because he wasnt affected
the ENTIRE WORLD fell apart
but the right wing says it never happened!
bet they use mirrors!
>
>Don't go blind with liberalism's greed. Gets you killed every time.
gee. wasnt aware that the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003, put in place by
the GOP and signed by bush were liberal policies
you dont know much about america do you? you think the GOP is a
liberal party
of course you're such a moron you may actually believe that
>
>> they went from 320 BILLION in 1997
>>
>> to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 2007
>>
>> in 10 years they increased by a factor of 2000%
>
>It wasn't they. It was GREEDY Americans borrowing their life style.
now let's see.
WALL STREET traded CDS's. middle class america did NOT
but he blames MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA. why? because that's what the right
does
MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA did NOT buy and sell CDS's
WALL STREET DID. but he blames the MIDDLE CLASS
god knows you cant blame the RICH!!
>2008 is just when someone said they wanted to be paid back and no one
>could find the real money.
yeah that's right. the RICH had expanded CDS's by TWO THOUSAND PERCENT
the middle class had NOTHING to do with this
and you blame the mIDDLE CLASS
>
>> TWO THOUSAND PERCENT. and you IGNORE that while you bleat your RIGHT
>> WING BULLSHIT about HOW GLORIOUS wall street works!!
>>
>> wall street FUCKED and and YOU tell us how WONDERFUL this is!!
>
>Yep, all you liberal leftie fleabaggers thought you could borrow your
>way into the middle class with a low class attitude.
HAHAHA he blames the MIDDLE CLASS For what WALL STREET did
WALL STREET NOT MAIN STREET expanded CDS's by TWO THOUSAND PERCENT
and to him the MIDDLE CLASS is to blame
no middle class worker has collateralized debt obligations in his
paycheck
ONLY wall street trades these
but he blames the middle class. typical right winger. NEVER blames the
rich. NEVER. even when it's IMPOSSIBLE for the MIDDLE CLASS to be at
fault he STILL BLAMES the middle class because you can
NEVER blame the rich!
>
>>> Fraud is Harvard buddy Wagoner of GM, running bankrupt and corrupt for
>>> so long. Obama bailing them out, and spilling taxpayer funded debt to
>>> bailout corruption. Bailing out some bank because a big Saudi Bin Laden
>>> deposits money there.
>>
>> uh...the GM bailout was started under
>>
>> bush
>
>At Obama's request from TARP, $13 billion to keep them going for Obama o
>deal with when he was in office. And not one peep out of Congress for
>misappropriation of TARP funds. You know that was a conspiracy to have
>the lame term president take the heat?
obama wasnt president when TARP was formulated
bush was.
bush bailed out the big banks. the recession started under bush
but you blame obama because he's black.
>
>I openly called Obama a criminal Bin Laden family criminal because
>Carlye, a major benefactor of GM bailout had Bush and bin Laden family
>moneys in it.
let's see who was head of carlyle??
a guy named donald rumsfeld
and who was rumsfeld's boss in 2002-2007??
george bush.
but the right wing lunatic blames obama.
so even though WALL STREET increased RISK by TWO THOUSAND PERCENT and
the MIDDLE CLASS HAD NO ROLE in this
he STILL blames the MIDDLE CLASS
and even thought RUMSFELD worked for BUSH
he STILL says that it's a fact....known ONLY TO HIM...that OBAMA
TELEPATHICALLY communicated to RUMSFELD about the TARP
is there ANY more proof needed that he HATES america AND blacks??
emde...@hush.com
wrote:
As I said, nobody believes liars.