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X ` Man

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May 22, 2012, 5:53:04 PM5/22/12
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Republicans on Romney and Bain Capital:

1. “The idea that you’ve got private equity companies that come in
and take companies apart so they can make profits and have people lose
their jobs, that’s not what the Republican Party’s about.” — Rick Perry
[New York Times, 1/12/12]

2. “The Bain model is to go in at a very low price, borrow an
immense amount of money, pay Bain an immense amount of money and leave.
I’ll let you decide if that’s really good capitalism. I think that’s
exploitation.” — Newt Gingrich [New York Times, 1/17/12]

3. “Instead of trying to work with them to try to find a way to
keep the jobs and to get them back on their feet, it’s all about how
much money can we make, how quick can we make it, and then get out of
town and find the next carcass to feed upon” — Rick Perry [National
Journal, 1/10/12]

4. “We find it pretty hard to justify rich people figuring out
clever legal ways to loot a company, leaving behind 1,700 families
without a job.” — Newt Gingrich [Globe and Mail, 1/9/12]

5. “Now, I have no doubt Mitt Romney was worried about pink slips —
whether he was going to have enough of them to hand out because his
company, Bain Capital, of all the jobs that they killed” — Rick Perry
[New York Times, 1/9/12]

6) “He claims he created 100,000 jobs. The Washington Post, two
days ago, reported in their fact check column that he gets three
Pinocchios. Now, a Pinocchio is what you get from The Post if you’re not
telling the truth.” — Newt Gingrich [1/13/12, NBC News]

7. “There is something inherently wrong when getting rich off
failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business, and
I happen to think that’s indefensible” — Rick Perry [National Journal,
1/10/12]

8. “If Governor Romney would like to give back all the money he’s
earned from bankrupting companies and laying off employees over his
years, then I would be glad to then listen to him” — Newt Gingrich
[Mediaite, 12/14/11]

9. “If you’re a victim of Bain Capital’s downsizing, it’s the
ultimate insult for Mitt Romney to come to South Carolina and tell you
he feels your pain, because he caused it.” — Rick Perry [New York Times,
1/8/12]

10. “They’re vultures that sitting out there on the tree limb
waiting for the company to get sick and then they swoop in, they eat the
carcass. They leave with that and they leave the skeleton” — Rick Perry
[National Journal, 1/10/12]

Wayne.B

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May 22, 2012, 7:58:44 PM5/22/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:53:04 -0400, X ` Man
<dump-on-co...@anywhere-you-can.com> wrote:

> 2. “The Bain model is to go in at a very low price, borrow an
>immense amount of money, pay Bain an immense amount of money and leave.
>I’ll let you decide if that’s really good capitalism. I think that’s
>exploitation.” — Newt Gingrich [New York Times, 1/17/12]

===

It's interesting that you have suddenly found Newt Gingrich to be a
credible source of information. What a tangled web you weave.

Personally I wouldn't trust Gingrich to officiate a dog fight.

X ` Man

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May 22, 2012, 9:22:58 PM5/22/12
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Where did I state I thought Gingrich credible? All I am doing is
offering up opinions of fellow Republicans of the presumed nominee.
I don't think any of the GOP bozos are credible, and least of all
Romney, who turns around and around on his positions faster than a
quasar and is more of a liar than Sarah Palin.
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Oscar

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May 23, 2012, 3:44:10 PM5/23/12
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> Romney, who turns around and around on his positions faster than a Rec.boats
> quasar and is more of a liar than Sarah Palin.

Why not offer yourself up to be roasted. Rec boats would come to life to
honor you with accolades.

Califbill

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May 25, 2012, 3:40:43 PM5/25/12
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"X ` Man" wrote in message
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Most of the companies would have had to lay off people or folded anyway. I
had at least 4 jobs since 1979 that were all funded by Venture Capitalists.
Some of the VC's were not very good at managing the companies, but they
created a lot of jobs. where do you think most of those Hitech IPO's got
there original funding from?

As to Bain Capital, J. Levine a managing partner is one of Obama's biggest
fund raisers. So what about Bain now, Xman?

X ` Man

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May 25, 2012, 3:49:40 PM5/25/12
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It's still a vulture capitalist. Why do you righties assume that because
I like Obama, I favor everything he does or everyone connected to him?


Disgruntled

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May 25, 2012, 4:39:29 PM5/25/12
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Because everyone you have assumed to be a "Rightie", in your mind does
disagree with everything the "Libs" say or do.

BAR

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May 25, 2012, 6:10:40 PM5/25/12
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In article <ob6dndsYzvCQcyLS...@giganews.com>,
no...@none.net says...
>
> On 5/25/2012 3:49 PM, X ` Man wrote:
> > On 5/25/12 3:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
> >> "X ` Man" wrote in message
> >> news:vvCdnWIWtNhdlyHS...@earthlink.com...
> >>
> >>
> >> Republicans on Romney and Bain Capital:
> >>
> >> 1. ?The idea that you?ve got private equity companies that come in
> >> and take companies apart so they can make profits and have people lose
> >> their jobs, that?s not what the Republican Party?s about.? ? Rick Perry
> >> [New York Times, 1/12/12]
> >>
> >> 2. ?The Bain model is to go in at a very low price, borrow an
> >> immense amount of money, pay Bain an immense amount of money and leave.
> >> I?ll let you decide if that?s really good capitalism. I think that?s
> >> exploitation.? ? Newt Gingrich [New York Times, 1/17/12]
> >>
> >> 3. ?Instead of trying to work with them to try to find a way to
> >> keep the jobs and to get them back on their feet, it?s all about how
> >> much money can we make, how quick can we make it, and then get out of
> >> town and find the next carcass to feed upon? ? Rick Perry [National
> >> Journal, 1/10/12]
> >>
> >> 4. ?We find it pretty hard to justify rich people figuring out
> >> clever legal ways to loot a company, leaving behind 1,700 families
> >> without a job.? ? Newt Gingrich [Globe and Mail, 1/9/12]
> >>
> >> 5. ?Now, I have no doubt Mitt Romney was worried about pink slips ?
> >> whether he was going to have enough of them to hand out because his
> >> company, Bain Capital, of all the jobs that they killed? ? Rick Perry
> >> [New York Times, 1/9/12]
> >>
> >> 6) ?He claims he created 100,000 jobs. The Washington Post, two
> >> days ago, reported in their fact check column that he gets three
> >> Pinocchios. Now, a Pinocchio is what you get from The Post if you?re not
> >> telling the truth.? ? Newt Gingrich [1/13/12, NBC News]
> >>
> >> 7. ?There is something inherently wrong when getting rich off
> >> failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business, and
> >> I happen to think that?s indefensible? ? Rick Perry [National Journal,
> >> 1/10/12]
> >>
> >> 8. ?If Governor Romney would like to give back all the money he?s
> >> earned from bankrupting companies and laying off employees over his
> >> years, then I would be glad to then listen to him? ? Newt Gingrich
> >> [Mediaite, 12/14/11]
> >>
> >> 9. ?If you?re a victim of Bain Capital?s downsizing, it?s the
> >> ultimate insult for Mitt Romney to come to South Carolina and tell you
> >> he feels your pain, because he caused it.? ? Rick Perry [New York Times,
> >> 1/8/12]
> >>
> >> 10. ?They?re vultures that sitting out there on the tree limb
> >> waiting for the company to get sick and then they swoop in, they eat the
> >> carcass. They leave with that and they leave the skeleton? ? Rick Perry
> >> [National Journal, 1/10/12]
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> Most of the companies would have had to lay off people or folded anyway.
> >> I had at least 4 jobs since 1979 that were all funded by Venture
> >> Capitalists. Some of the VC's were not very good at managing the
> >> companies, but they created a lot of jobs. where do you think most of
> >> those Hitech IPO's got there original funding from?
> >>
> >> As to Bain Capital, J. Levine a managing partner is one of Obama's
> >> biggest fund raisers. So what about Bain now, Xman?
> >>
> >
> >
> > It's still a vulture capitalist. Why do you righties assume that because
> > I like Obama, I favor everything he does or everyone connected to him?
> >
> >
>
>
> Because everyone you have assumed to be a "Rightie", in your mind does
> disagree with everything the "Libs" say or do.

What happens where there are no more evil corporations, bankers or rich
people? Who then will the left focus the peoples misery towards?


JustWait

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May 25, 2012, 6:16:01 PM5/25/12
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The fact is Bain had a 78% success record and actually created jobs, not
like the "lost or eliminated" numbers from the Obama Administration...

X ` Man

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May 25, 2012, 6:21:14 PM5/25/12
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No one is advocating the elimination of corporations, bankers or rich
people, Mr. Undereducated.

X ` Man

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May 25, 2012, 6:21:40 PM5/25/12
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Ooohh...El Stupido digested a GOP talking point!

JustWait

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May 25, 2012, 6:32:00 PM5/25/12
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Ooohh, el pedo can't avoid the facts.

X ` Man

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May 25, 2012, 7:13:41 PM5/25/12
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That stat refers to the deals on which Bain's investors made money. It
has nothing to do with saving companies or saving or creating jobs, El
Stupido.

JustWait

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May 25, 2012, 8:20:49 PM5/25/12
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That stat shows jobs "Saved or Created", as opposed to lost or
eliminated...

X ` Man

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May 25, 2012, 9:00:54 PM5/25/12
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The way you present that stat is meaningless, El Stupido.

JustWait

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May 25, 2012, 9:19:56 PM5/25/12
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Sorry you can't keep up...

X ` Man

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May 25, 2012, 9:54:13 PM5/25/12
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With what, your nonsensical bullshit? Who can?

thumper

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May 25, 2012, 10:04:59 PM5/25/12
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On 5/25/2012 3:10 PM, BAR wrote:
> What happens where there are no more evil corporations, bankers or rich
> people? Who then will the left focus the peoples misery towards?

We'll be left with decent corporations, bankers, and rich people and
there will be less misery.

BAR

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May 25, 2012, 10:19:26 PM5/25/12
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In article <jppdoe$k9g$1...@dont-email.me>, wo...@id.invalid says...
You will be left with a bunch of lazy people wonder where their next
meal is coming from and wanting to know why the inside of their house is
hot or cold and the will be pushing all of the buttons on the remote
control trying to figure out why the cable isn't working.



thumper

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May 25, 2012, 11:31:31 PM5/25/12
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You are the one painting with broad strokes... I do not.

Wayne.B

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May 26, 2012, 1:37:07 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 18:10:40 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:

>What happens where there are no more evil corporations, bankers or rich
>people? Who then will the left focus the peoples misery towards?

===

They will be way too worried about where there next meal is coming
from to get involved in that kind of mud slinging.

iBoaterer

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May 26, 2012, 8:31:04 AM5/26/12
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In article <jpp0b8$dve$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
Cite? You've got to quit believing everything FOX tells you. Even Romney
admitted that Bain Capital didn't create jobs.....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/25/1094754/-Even-Mitt-Romney-
admits-Bain-Capital-didn-t-create-jobs


iBoaterer

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May 26, 2012, 8:32:15 AM5/26/12
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In article <jpp196$jpc$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
The facts are, you believed FOX yet again and posted bullshit here again
without any evidence of such again.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/25/1094754/-Even-Mitt-Romney-
admits-Bain-Capital-didn-t-create-jobs


iBoaterer

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May 26, 2012, 8:33:05 AM5/26/12
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In article <jpp7l8$odp$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
Here, simp.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/25/1094754/-Even-Mitt-Romney-
admits-Bain-Capital-didn-t-create-jobs




iBoaterer

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May 26, 2012, 8:33:36 AM5/26/12
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In article <jppb43$93q$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
I can.....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/25/1094754/-Even-Mitt-Romney-
admits-Bain-Capital-didn-t-create-jobs


JustWait

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May 26, 2012, 8:35:28 AM5/26/12
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Here cunt....

JustWait

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May 26, 2012, 8:36:06 AM5/26/12
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The daily kos?? LOL!!!! and you talk about Fox... What an ass...

iBoaterer

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May 26, 2012, 10:21:27 AM5/26/12
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In article <jpqint$puo$2...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
What about the article do you disagree with and why? Now notice, dipshit
that ROMNEY HIMSELF stated that the claims that Bain created jobs is
false. But I know, just like Harry, when you are found lying and full of
shit you call nasty low life names, insult, then whine about the origin
of the article, but of COURSE you can't find one thing in the article
that is false.

Califbill

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May 26, 2012, 1:40:42 PM5/26/12
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"X ` Man" wrote in message
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You like Obama as you think you will be at the top of the heap if he gets
his way. What would he have done differently if he was a socialist? You
seem to think the VC's are vultures. All those millionaire's Google,
Facebook, and most every other high tech firm would not have a job if not
for VC's. They have created a lot more real jobs than the government has,

Wayne.B

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May 26, 2012, 3:46:31 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:40:42 -0700, "Califbill"
<bmc...@nospamix.netcom.com> wrote:

>All those millionaire's Google,
>Facebook, and most every other high tech firm would not have a job if not
>for VC's. They have created a lot more real jobs than the government has,

===

And they are real jobs that create goods and services, assist with the
balance of payments, pay taxes, hire college graduates and a lot of
other good things.

X ` Man

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May 26, 2012, 3:57:16 PM5/26/12
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You obviously have no idea why I like Obama.

Oscar

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May 26, 2012, 4:45:29 PM5/26/12
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On 5/26/2012 3:57 PM, X ` Man wrote:
> On 5/26/12 1:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
>> "X ` Man" wrote in message
>> news:ycSdnY5zg5vEfyLS...@earthlink.com...
>>
>> On 5/25/12 3:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
>>> "X ` Man" wrote in message
>>> news:vvCdnWIWtNhdlyHS...@earthlink.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Republicans on Romney and Bain Capital:
>>>
>>> 1. �The idea that you�ve got private equity companies that come in
>>> and take companies apart so they can make profits and have people lose
>>> their jobs, that�s not what the Republican Party�s about.� � Rick Perry
>>> [New York Times, 1/12/12]
>>>
>>> 2. �The Bain model is to go in at a very low price, borrow an
>>> immense amount of money, pay Bain an immense amount of money and leave.
>>> I�ll let you decide if that�s really good capitalism. I think that�s
>>> exploitation.� � Newt Gingrich [New York Times, 1/17/12]
>>>
>>> 3. �Instead of trying to work with them to try to find a way to
>>> keep the jobs and to get them back on their feet, it�s all about how
>>> much money can we make, how quick can we make it, and then get out of
>>> town and find the next carcass to feed upon� � Rick Perry [National
>>> Journal, 1/10/12]
>>>
>>> 4. �We find it pretty hard to justify rich people figuring out
>>> clever legal ways to loot a company, leaving behind 1,700 families
>>> without a job.� � Newt Gingrich [Globe and Mail, 1/9/12]
>>>
>>> 5. �Now, I have no doubt Mitt Romney was worried about pink slips �
>>> whether he was going to have enough of them to hand out because his
>>> company, Bain Capital, of all the jobs that they killed� � Rick Perry
>>> [New York Times, 1/9/12]
>>>
>>> 6) �He claims he created 100,000 jobs. The Washington Post, two
>>> days ago, reported in their fact check column that he gets three
>>> Pinocchios. Now, a Pinocchio is what you get from The Post if you�re not
>>> telling the truth.� � Newt Gingrich [1/13/12, NBC News]
>>>
>>> 7. �There is something inherently wrong when getting rich off
>>> failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business, and
>>> I happen to think that�s indefensible� � Rick Perry [National Journal,
>>> 1/10/12]
>>>
>>> 8. �If Governor Romney would like to give back all the money he�s
>>> earned from bankrupting companies and laying off employees over his
>>> years, then I would be glad to then listen to him� � Newt Gingrich
>>> [Mediaite, 12/14/11]
>>>
>>> 9. �If you�re a victim of Bain Capital�s downsizing, it�s the
>>> ultimate insult for Mitt Romney to come to South Carolina and tell you
>>> he feels your pain, because he caused it.� � Rick Perry [New York Times,
>>> 1/8/12]
>>>
>>> 10. �They�re vultures that sitting out there on the tree limb
>>> waiting for the company to get sick and then they swoop in, they eat the
>>> carcass. They leave with that and they leave the skeleton� � Rick Perry
>>> [National Journal, 1/10/12]
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Most of the companies would have had to lay off people or folded anyway.
>>> I had at least 4 jobs since 1979 that were all funded by Venture
>>> Capitalists. Some of the VC's were not very good at managing the
>>> companies, but they created a lot of jobs. where do you think most of
>>> those Hitech IPO's got there original funding from?
>>>
>>> As to Bain Capital, J. Levine a managing partner is one of Obama's
>>> biggest fund raisers. So what about Bain now, Xman?
>>>
>>
>>
>> It's still a vulture capitalist. Why do you righties assume that because
>> I like Obama, I favor everything he does or everyone connected to him?
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>> You like Obama as you think you will be at the top of the heap if he
>> gets his way. What would he have done differently if he was a socialist?
>> You seem to think the VC's are vultures.
>
>
> You obviously have no idea why I like Obama.

We're all dying to know why you like O'bama.

Wayne.B

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May 26, 2012, 5:21:41 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:57:16 -0400, X ` Man
<dump-on-co...@anywhere-you-can.com> wrote:

>You obviously have no idea why I like Obama.

===

I have it on good authority that Obama would prefer that you not
mention him, something about sending the wrong message...

X ` Man

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May 26, 2012, 6:04:42 PM5/26/12
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As always, W'hine, ESAD.

Wayne.B

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May 26, 2012, 11:37:38 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 18:04:42 -0400, X ` Man
<dump-on-co...@anywhere-you-can.com> wrote:

>On 5/26/12 5:21 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:57:16 -0400, X ` Man
>> <dump-on-co...@anywhere-you-can.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You obviously have no idea why I like Obama.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I have it on good authority that Obama would prefer that you not
>> mention him, something about sending the wrong message...
>>
>
>
>As always, W'hine, ESAD.

===

A perfect example, I rest my case.

Oscar

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May 27, 2012, 8:31:36 AM5/27/12
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You Betcha. No one in his right mind would elicit support from the old
asshat.

John H.

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May 27, 2012, 8:36:20 AM5/27/12
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If I were Wayne, I'd comment about now on the gist of these messages!
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