Approval ratings not the best...
John H
approval ratings aren't looking too good. Seems like folks just don't
appreciate all the great things he is doing for his country, like
trying to sell it out at Copenhagen.
"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday
shows that 24% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that
Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-two percent
(42%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index
rating of -18."
John H
nom=de=plume
news:51cdi59ptm6mbdk4d...@4ax.com...
It might be from the same set of polls that were on Fox...
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/08/fox-poll-120/
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Tim
> "John H" <salmonb...@gmail.dotcom> wrote in message
Look at this, though.
Fox gave a higher aproval rating pn 12-09 then Cnn did on 12-03
Tim
or Fox got theirs from Rasmussen
Steve B
"John H" <salmo...@gmail.dotcom> wrote in message
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More crap put out by the right wing extremists in a bid for a
Limbaugh/Hannity or Palin/Levin ticket in '12. The poll I saw was a 109%
approval rating for Obama. It was taken as an exit poll at a Democrat
dinner, and some people were polled twice because they were drunk and forgot
they were polled the first time, hence the +9%. And that does not even
include the interviews held at the cemetery.
Obama is going good depending on who you listen to.
Steve
nom=de=plume
news:8ac106cb-8141-4de6...@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
It must have been a momentary lapse, since we know they're "fair and
balanced."
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Nom=de=Plume
nom=de=plume
I have a friend who only looks at Rasmussen. It pretty clearly has a
right-leaning bias. It always seems to be one of the outliers.
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Nom=de=Plume
Tim
> "Tim" <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
OK, If you dont' like Rasmussen then what poll IS truely fair and
balanced that cuts right down the middle, and not to the left or the
right?
Jack
Heh, heh... Tim. You don't actually expect a clear response to that,
do you? She only gives vacuous responses, and makes feeble attempts
to put down other's posts. There's nothing there worth engaging...
unless you're really bored.
It's a more female version of donnie.
nom=de=plume
I think they need to be looked at as an average. CNN does something like
that with its poll of polls.
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Nom=de=Plume
nom=de=plume
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Heh, heh. You're having trouble competing with an "average" woman.
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thunder
> I have a friend who only looks at Rasmussen. It pretty clearly has a
> right-leaning bias. It always seems to be one of the outliers.
Yup:
John H
nom=de=plume
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Thus, if you remove the outliers (both right and left), you're left with a
more rational view..
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Don White
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*********************************************
You been treating those 'Palm Sisters' ok Jackoff?
I'm guessing they deserve something special for Christmas after all the
abuse you've given them.
Tim
USA Today/Gallup 12/11 - 12/13 1025 A 49 46 +3
Rasmussen Reports 12/11 - 12/13 1500 LV 44 55 -11
Gallup 12/11 - 12/13 1547 A 48 42 +6
Marist 12/2 - 12/7 858 RV 46 44 +2
Ipsos/McClatchy 12/3 - 12/6 1120 A 49 49 Tie
Quinnipiac 12/1 - 12/6 2313 RV 46 44 +2
CNN/Opinion Research 12/2 - 12/3 1041 A 48 50 -2
John H
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John H
nom=de=plume
> There are even some folks right here who think Obama is doing good.
> --
>
> John H
And, some folks who think he's doing well.
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TopBassDog
Your President Obama has the largest presidential approval ratings
freefall. Obama has dropped 21 points in 11 months.
Former president Carter only dropped 14 points in his first 11 months.
Mr. Obama is making Carter look good.
Here are inauguration day approval numbers, December numbers, and the
change from inauguration day until December for each of the presidents
—
IKE 66 60 -6
KENNEDY 72 78 6
NIXON 60 60 0
CARTER 69 55 -14
REAGAN 53 49 -4
BUSH 1 63 70 7
CLINTON 55 55 0
BUSH 2 59 85 26
OBAMA 68 47 -21
The above numbers are from Gallup poll data.
nom=de=plume
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TopBassDog
> Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012.
>
Why?
H the K (I post with a Mac)
He is doing very well. He's living in a very special house with his
lovely wife,two beautiful children and a permanent house guest, His
illegal aunt from Kenya. He's making a good salary and is set for life
with pension, and paid medical. Yes, he is doing well, but I'm sad to
say he isn't doing much of anything good.
--
Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID
BAR
thunder...@gti.net says...
Out-lier or ahead of the curve?
John H
OK, Gallup Poll...wonder if they get their numbers from Fox News.
They'll get accused of it shortly, right here on rec.boats.
Anyway, I'm sorry to see the pitiful drop in numbers for my President
Barack Hussein Obama. This means that the country is taking it in the
ass...
,... and, not as importantly, the population has noticed.
--
John H
John H
Come on, Dog, give us a break. She finally said something sensible and
you question it. Hell that's the brightest thing I've seen quoted from
her all month.
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John H
Loogypicker
There's some folks right here that don't think Obama has done anything
right. Of course, their heads are in the sand just because they hate
anything liberal.
He's slowed down the recession that 'ush got us into
Saved Wall Street
Saved the collapse of the auto industry
Shifted the war focus from Iraq BACK TO Afghanistan where we needed to
be.
Worked to relax anti-American tensions
Closing the torture camp Gitmo
Has made the environment a national priority, and a primary source for
job creation
Made education an national priority.
Is trying to ensure that all Americans have access to health care.
Restored credibility to the American Presidency where the world is
looking to him to lead America out of unilateralism and back into
multilateral global cooperation
Anony Mouse
"Loogypicker" <loogy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Be sure to ask for a second helping of Kool-Ade.
Loogypicker
> "Loogypicker" <loogypic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Which of those do you disagree with and why? OR do you not have
anything substantial and instead resort to the Harry plan and just try
to shoot the messenger?
nom=de=plume
I'm going to assume that these are rhetorical questions.
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nom=de=plume
On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, "nom=de=plume" <nom...@plume.invalid> wrote:
> Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012.
>
>Why?
Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be Palin.
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Anony Mouse
"Loogypicker" <loogy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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All of the above. You sound like Harry - all bluster - mouthing the party
line without question. Occasionally Harry thinks for himself, at which time
he lays low for a day or so. Enough said on this topic.
John H
Good response. Anything more is a waste of time.
--
John H
Vic Smith
<loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Is trying to ensure that all Americans have access to health care.
Looks like Joe Leiberman is running that show.
Might just end up where the insurance and pharma companies get direct
access to the taxpayers' wallets through enforced and subsidized
health insurance. 30 million new policies I hear.
Like Wall Street got massively into workers' pockets with the 401k
plans.
But that was voluntary, and fits the "sucker born every minute" rule.
With enforced insurance premiums to the health insurance companies,
and taxpayer subsidies to pay them, this is a bit different.
Sweet deal for the health insurance and pharma corporations.
I'm a bit surprised Obama swings that way.
But he is the President, and can lead how he wants to.
--Vic
Bill McKee
"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
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palin is not the President, and she should be more closely compared the
VEEP. Biden. Talk about the Peter Principal.
Vic Smith
<loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Closing the torture camp Gitmo
Lucky for Obama that Rod Blagojevich isn't around to cut that Illinois
prison deal. Barrack probably got a good deal for the feds.
Blago would have got a better deal for Illinoisans - think that's how
you call us, if we're from Illinois.
Would have made that Landreau gal from Louisiana look like a piker.
I suspect Blago would have started the negotiations at maybe 5 big
ones. Yeah, $5 billion. That's what I'm talking about.
--Vic
jps
And the negotiations would have concluded with the feds offering to
not send him to jail for extortion in exchange for free terrorist
housing.
He would get to keep his hair.
Vic Smith
Hey. Lay off Rod. It's not nice what you're saying.
--Vic
John H
Here's a quick breakout of the '45 million uninsured' we keep hearing
about from the liberal press.
Wonder if 30 million will pick up policies in lieu of jail time?
--
John H
jps
<thismaila...@comcast.net> wrote:
Okay, he might have gotten the Feds to pay for food.
Canuck57
> There must be a lot of stupid people in the USA, 'cause 'Bama's
> approval ratings aren't looking too good. Seems like folks just don't
> appreciate all the great things he is doing for his country, like
> trying to sell it out at Copenhagen.
Maybe more are seeing big mouth talk a lot deliver little but debt Obama
for what he is. Obama makes a snake-oil salesman look good.
> "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday
> shows that 24% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that
> Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-two percent
> (42%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index
> rating of -18."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5tnd2b
People do learn. Just takes time.
nom=de=plume
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Exactly my point. Palin is not the President (or VP) THANK GOD!
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CalifBill
"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
Unfortunately we have what we got.
Loogypicker
>
> - Show quoted text -
Please read the question again. I specifically asked:
nom=de=plume
news:NPKdnQVkm9G7F7XW...@earthlink.com...
Seems like he's trying to fix the mess Bush left. So, compared to what we
could have gotten, I'm pretty happy. Of course, the "compared to" isn't
saying much.
At least he has a functioning brain.
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Nom=de=Plume
Vic Smith
<loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Shifted the war focus from Iraq BACK TO Afghanistan where we needed to
>be.
Just heard that Obama is increasing the war contractor ranks to
unprecedented levels.
Guy who wrote the Blackwater book was talking on MSNBC.
Said both Obama and Hillary were railing about them when they were
campaigning. Now Blackwater guards Hillary when she's overseas.
Calls them "War Corporations." There's about 600 of the corporations,
doing everything from cooking to fighting for the military. Big
money.
Said it'll stay that way without bringing the draft back.
Just what he said, as I don't know the details.
Wish there had been a Blackwater chef on my Navy can.
Surely would have been an improvement in the cuisine.
<fart> Just had a big bowl of Navy bean soup my wife brought home
from work. Now she's a cook. Blackwater or Navy can't touch her.
--Vic
Bill McKee
"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
But it is functioning more as a conduit for crap ideas.
nom=de=plume
Sort of like yours?
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Nom=de=Plume
Harry
McKee is a reconstructed "dixiecrat" who didn't get the memo about
switching to the GOP.
TopBassDog
> On 12/16/09 4:54 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
>
>
>
> >news:js-dncRLhuH90LTW...@earthlink.com...
>
> >> "nom=de=plume"<nom...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
> >>news:hgavoc$282$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> "CalifBill"<bmckees...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:NPKdnQVkm9G7F7XW...@earthlink.com...
>
> >>>> "nom=de=plume"<nom...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
> >>>>news:hga0ui$fmu$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>>> "Bill McKee"<bmckeespam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:FYadnYX-2L-PmLXW...@earthlink.com...
>
> >>>>>> "nom=de=plume"<nom...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:hg8fhv$eo8$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>>>>> "TopBassDog"<topbass...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:a371d74b-13e1-4f90...@g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>> On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, "nom=de=plume"<nom...@plume.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012.
>
> >>>>>>>> Why?
>
> >>>>>>> Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be
> >>>>>>> Palin.
>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Nom=de=Plume
>
> >>>>>> palin is not the President, and she should be more closely compared
> >>>>>> the VEEP. Biden. Talk about the Peter Principal.
>
> >>>>> Exactly my point. Palin is not the President (or VP) THANK GOD!
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Nom=de=Plume
>
> >>>> Unfortunately we have what we got.
>
> >>> Seems like he's trying to fix the mess Bush left. So, compared to what we
> >>> could have gotten, I'm pretty happy. Of course, the "compared to" isn't
> >>> saying much.
>
> >>> At least he has a functioning brain.
>
> >>> --
> >>> Nom=de=Plume
>
> >> But it is functioning more as a conduit for crap ideas.
>
> > Sort of like yours?
>
> McKee is a reconstructed "dixiecrat" who didn't get the memo about
> switching to the GOP.
herr Krause. What were you saying about democrats?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126100346902694549.html?mod=rss_Today%27s_Most_Popular
Bill McKee
"Harry" <naled...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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I am an equal opportunity disliker. Both the Republicans and the Democrats
suck. At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and
screwing us big time. How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill?
nom=de=plume
I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with
reconciliation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)
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Nom=de=Plume
John H
<bmckee...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>I am an equal opportunity disliker. Both the Republicans and the Democrats
>suck. At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and
>screwing us big time. How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill?
>
Hee, hee.
The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the
Republicans.
Pass the popcorn.
--
Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year!
John H
Loogypicker
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:15:37 -0800, "Bill McKee"
>
>
> >I am an equal opportunity disliker. Both the Republicans and the Democrats
> >suck. At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and
> >screwing us big time. How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill?
>
> Hee, hee.
>
> The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the
> Republicans.
>
> Pass the popcorn.
> --
>
> Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year!
>
> John H
Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name
correctly, huh? That's just sad.
nom=de=plume
Very sad... says a lot about John.
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Nom=de=Plume
thunder
>> Hee, hee.
>>
>> The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the
>> Republicans.
>>
>> Pass the popcorn.
>> --
>>
>> Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year!
>>
>> John H
>
>>Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name
>>correctly, huh? That's just sad.
>
>
> Very sad... says a lot about John.
Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown a
corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are
seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there
is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care
reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not
helping the "Party of No".
Harry
thunder...@gti.net says...
It's going to be okay. The Democrats have me on retainer now. I'm going
to be writing some great speeches for them. They knew that I was the
best in the business. I hope the heavy hitters aren't put off by having
to come down into my basement for meetings.
--
And now...back to flajim and others who are so obsessed with me, they
use my handle here.
nom=de=plume
news:1Omdne4FOpOn5rfW...@posted.gtinet...
Absolutely. And, while hurting them, it's doubtful that they'll lose either
the Senate or the House in 2010. Then, they can try again to pass something,
perhaps with reconciliation.
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Nom=de=Plume
Harry
I think they could and should have gone the reconciliation route from
the beginning. By now, we'd have signed legislation and laws ready to go
into effect. It's been obvious from the beginning that the republicans
were not going to sign onto anything, no matter what concessions they
were tossed.
John H
wrote:
Don't be too sad. I'm OK.
If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care plan, it would
probably pass. To blame the non-passage on the Republicans is very
Reid-like, but also bullshit.
If this health plan is so great, why hasn't it been made public? Why
are Republican senators prevented from seeing the bill?
Read this. It's from a liberal newspaper, so it must be true.
In the meantime, keep blaming the Republicans for the bill not
passing. Not even Howard Dean does that.
John H
>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>I will point out, you reap what you sow.
>I remember the way the left mangled Bush's name.
>
>Either you respect the office or personal attacks are fine, your
>choice.
I have great respect for the office. It's the current occupant I find
somewhat problematic. I guess I'm just not in favor of the government
running everything. The Russians tried it, even added 'socialist' to
the name of their country. The folks who got ahead were not the common
folks, they were the politicians who had the good spots in the
government. Liberals just can't seem to understand that.
nom=de=plume
news:em1li5hbv2r8irmue...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
> I remember the way the left mangled Bush's name.
>
> Either you respect the office or personal attacks are fine, your
> choice.
?? If you're saying that because one person does a bad thing, that gives
license for another to do a bad thing, I'm sorry, but that's complete bs.
It's wrong, it's certainly anti-Christian, and it's very, very
short-sighted.
I have always respected the office of the President, the office of a
senator/representative. That doesn't mean they get a get-out-of-jail free
card, like Bush and Cheney have received so far. That's quite different from
scripted screaming at a townhall meeting.
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Nom=de=Plume
nom=de=plume
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No, you're just lying. You don't have any respect for the office. If you
did, you'd refer to the current holder as President Obama vs. your
bastardization of his name. You would stand if he entered a room you were
in, and you certainly wouldn't yell _liar_ in a joint session of Congress.
Your continued lying about the "government takeover" is disgusting and
disquieting.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Loogypicker
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:32:27 -0500, gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
> >On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>
> >>"Loogypicker" <loogypic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
There you go. Lumping all liberals into you very narrow minded
definition.
Loogypicker
> "John H" <salmonb...@gmail.dotcom> wrote in message
>
> news:a22li5lvm6koju8b4...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:32:27 -0500, gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>
> >>>"Loogypicker" <loogypic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
That's all they have! The scare tactics of the pundits.
thunder
>>Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown
>>a corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are
>>seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there
>>is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care
>>reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not
>>helping the "Party of No".
>
> Don't be too sad. I'm OK.
>
> If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care plan, it would
> probably pass. To blame the non-passage on the Republicans is very
> Reid-like, but also bullshit.
>
> If this health plan is so great, why hasn't it been made public? Why are
> Republican senators prevented from seeing the bill?
>
> Read this. It's from a liberal newspaper, so it must be true.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y8tlw2l
>
> In the meantime, keep blaming the Republicans for the bill not passing.
> Not even Howard Dean does that.
Read for content, John. I didn't blame the Republicans for the bill not
passing. The Republican party is irrelevant, and it will remain
irrelevant until they get there house in order. Pandering to their
"base", all 20% of the population, will keep them irrelevant.
John H
wrote:
You're right. I misread. I thought your reference to the "Party of No"
was a jab at Republicans. But it seems as if the Democrats are doing
it to themselves.
If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care bill it would
pass with support from both sides. It would also stand the test of
daylight.
thunder
> If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care bill it would
> pass with support from both sides. It would also stand the test of
> daylight.
Garbage. "If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo.
It will break him." Want to guess who said that? It doesn't sound much
like they are interested in health care, just interested in defeating
Obama.
John H
wrote:
I don't know and don't care. Nor do I agree with the comment.
I stand by the comment I made above. The key word is 'adequate', which
doesn't mean hidden or hurried. (Neither of which you seem willing to
address.)
--
Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!
John H
nom=de=plume
The current batch of Republicans in Congress have no interest in reform.
They've shown this over and over to be the case.
The current batch of Democrats in Congress have no spine.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Bill McKee
"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
If they pass this pile of crap "health care" bill, I see a lot of them being
unemployed after the next election. And I am starting to hear that the
congress critters are coming to grips with the same thing. 61%+ of the
people think this bill is crap, and unless the congress critters can get
enough money from the lobbiests to retire, they are going to abandon this
thing.
nom=de=plume
I doubt the percentage is so high. There's no clear idea in the public's
mind of what's in the bill, thanks to the right. There several good things
in there, but it doesn't go anywhere far enough. There will be repercussions
for the Dems if they don't pass something meaningful. And, the Reps are not
benefiting politically, since they're so extreme.
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Nom=de=Plume
Eisboch
"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with
> reconciliation.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)
>
> --
> Nom=de=Plume
>
My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is
approved and is then
negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. You can't have
reconciliation on the
pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. There's nothing to
reconciliate. (if that's a word)
Eisboch
Rob
Rob
Harry
"Reconciliate" is indeed a word, though a tad obscure. You can find it
in a proper dictionary.
Eisboch
"Harry" <naled...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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That's me. Obscure.
Harry
Better to be obscure than familiar.
nom=de=plume
news:ofydnRF_JL9US7fW...@giganews.com...
Actually, you can.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)
The Byrd Rule (which is supposed to limit its use) is just a convention,
which has been ignored before.
--
Nom=de=Plume
John H
wrote:
Well, you have been. But the plum can use some folks to argue with
her.
Good to see you're back.
--
Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!
John H
Loogypicker
> >news:XcOdnTsIR94HR7fW...@earthlink.com...
> >> On 12/17/09 8:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:
> >>>news:hgcni0$ugd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >>>> I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with
> >>>> reconciliation.
>
> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Nom=de=Plume
>
> >>> My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is
> >>> approved and is then
> >>> negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. You can't have
> >>> reconciliation on the
> >>> pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. There's nothing to
> >>> reconciliate. (if that's a word)
>
> >>> Eisboch
>
> >> "Reconciliate" is indeed a word, though a tad obscure. You can find it in
> >> a proper dictionary.
>
> > That's me. Obscure.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Why don't YOU go be obscure instead of familiar then? Most of us here
would like that.
Loogypicker
> Eisboch wrote:
> > "nom=de=plume"<nom...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Don the rec.boats keystone cop of typos and spelling, that's who!
Loogypicker
Yes, indeed! That is all most of the republicans want. Hateful,
bigoted, intolerant.
Harry
@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, loogy...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Dec 17, 8:55ï¿œpm, Harry <naled24...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> > On 12/17/09 8:54 PM, Eisboch wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >news:XcOdnTsIR94HR7fW...@earthlink.com...
> > >> On 12/17/09 8:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:
> > >>>news:hgcni0$ugd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > >>>> I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with
> > >>>> reconciliation.
> >
> > >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)
> >
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Nom=de=Plume
> >
> > >>> My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is
> > >>> approved and is then
> > >>> reconciliation on the
> > >>> pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. ï¿œThere's nothing to
> > >>> reconciliate. (if that's a word)
> >
> > >>> Eisboch
> >
> > >> "Reconciliate" is indeed a word, though a tad obscure. You can find it in
> > >> a proper dictionary.
> >
> >
> > Better to be obscure than familiar.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Why don't YOU go be obscure instead of familiar then? Most of us here
> would like that.
Because rec.boats is all I have, little schitt.
--
And now...back to flajim and others who are so obsessed with me, they
use my handle here.
I am Tosk
@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, loogy...@gmail.com says...
You are the one who breaks everything into "liberal vs. conservative".
Take a look back..
I am Tosk
salmo...@gmail.dotcom says...
I am sorry but it bugs me big time that no democrats are concerned about
the secret meetings and the lack of any time to review the biggest bill
in history. That has got to set off bells with even the lowest level
thinkers...
I am Tosk
thunder...@gti.net says...
>
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:00 -0500, John H wrote:
>
>
> > If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care bill it would
> > pass with support from both sides. It would also stand the test of
> > daylight.
>
> like they are interested in health care, just interested in defeating
> Obama.
Who said that? Rush? Really man, stop listening to blather radio... We
don't...
Harry
> In article<07536aba-258a-429a-8b0a-a6eaa61e2f10
> @a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, loogy...@gmail.com says...
>>
This is really funny...you, loogy, herring, and bilious bill...the
dumbed down horsemen of the apocalypse of the eternally stupid.
Harry
Why are you concerned? You don't have health insurance.
I am Tosk
@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, loogy...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Dec 17, 5:33ï¿œpm, thunder <thunderTAKE...@gti.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:00 -0500, John H wrote:
> > > If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care bill it would
> > > pass with support from both sides. It would also stand the test of
> > > daylight.
> >
> > It will break him." ï¿œWant to guess who said that? ï¿œIt doesn't sound much
> > like they are interested in health care, just interested in defeating
> > Obama.
>
> Yes, indeed! That is all most of the republicans want. Hateful,
> bigoted, intolerant.
Yeah, yeah, that's it, someone said it so it's how "you folks" all
feel!! Yeah, that's the ticket!!! <snerk>
Harry
A U.S. Senator, shit-for-brains. Jim Demint, from South Carolina, naturally.
John H
They won't address the fact that the bill is kept hidden.
Yet they'll talk about Republicans 'blindly' doing this or that. If
pushing an unseen bill isn't 'blindly' following, then I don't know
what it.
--
Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!
John H
Harry
@mypacks.net says...
You are an impostor. I have guns and answer my door drawn and cocked.
Loogypicker
wrote:
> In article <07536aba-258a-429a-8b0a-a6eaa61e2f10
> @a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, loogypic...@gmail.com says...
>
> - Show quoted text -
What in hell do you think John POSTS this political shit for, if not
for liberal vs. conservative? And that argument has NO bearing on the
fact that John lumps ALL liberals into his very narrow minded slot.
LIke this:
Liberals just can't seem to understand that.
Now you tell me, how in hell would he know what all liberals think and
understand??? I'm telling you, I'm sick of his bullshit.
Peregrine
"John H" <salmo...@gmail.dotcom> wrote in message
>>
>
> Well, you have been. But the plum can use some folks to argue with
> her.
>
> Good to see you're back.
> --
>
> Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!
>
> John H
Just visiting. No boat.
Eisboch (best holiday wishes to all)
Harry
turds.
--
Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID
thunder
> I am sorry but it bugs me big time that no democrats are concerned about
> the secret meetings and the lack of any time to review the biggest bill
> in history. That has got to set off bells with even the lowest level
> thinkers...
Is this the first time you have paid attention to the legislative
process? Frankly, this is how it's done. It's ugly, untidy, but there's
nothing new here.
thunder
>> Garbage. "If we?re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo.
>> It will break him." Want to guess who said that? It doesn't sound
>> much like they are interested in health care, just interested in
>> defeating Obama.
>
> Who said that? Rush? Really man, stop listening to blather radio... We
> don't...
No, it was Senator Jim DeMint.
John H
Interested?
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/jherring1/Readytoroll.jpg
As you can see, it floats.
John H
wrote:
Bullshit. But if you have to defend them, it's as good a bullshit as
anyone puts out.
Blindly following, indeed!
Harry
Yet another Republican moron from South Carolina. Isn't there another
secession movement going on there?