Vero Beach weather
jim7856
might even see some of that famous Florida sunshine.
Pass it on to Harry. :-)
loogy...@gmail.com
And it rained all day there yesterday, when Harry took his alleged
photo!
justwaitaf...@gmail.com
Pffffftttt...
HK
Loogy is full of shit as usual. Yesterday was lovely here until about
2:30 pm, when the heavens broke loose and it rained continuously until
about 9 pm.
Right now, where we are, the sky is overcast and there's a little
breeze, but no rain.
Not easy shooting between the palms:
loogy...@gmail.com
That's the crappiest photo I've seen in a long time.
loogy...@gmail.com
After all of the whining about people spending time with their
children and grandchildren, he's staying at the Disney Resort! And he
tries SO hard to make people here think he's SO cultured and
refined!!!!!
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
It is amazing that when Harry goes on vacation, he posts as often as
when he is at home. My guess is Karen is glad she can just leave him
in the motel room, and enjoy herself.
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jim7856
> HK wrote:
>> justwaitaf...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On May 19, 10:01 am, loogypic...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On May 19, 9:50 am, jim7856 <no.n...@niet.neg> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's supposed to stop raining a week from Thursday at which time you
>>>>> might even see some of that famous Florida sunshine.
>>>>> Pass it on to Harry. :-)
>>>> And it rained all day there yesterday, when Harry took his alleged
>>>> photo.
>>>
>>> Pffffftttt...
>>
>>
>> Loogy is full of shit as usual. Yesterday was lovely here until about
>> 2:30 pm, when the heavens broke loose and it rained continuously until
>> about 9 pm.
>>
>> Right now, where we are, the sky is overcast and there's a little
>> breeze, but no rain.
>>
>> Not easy shooting between the palms:
>>
>> http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/?action=view¤t=flag-for-crap-for-brainsMay1920099-.jpg
>>
>
> It is amazing that when Harry goes on vacation, he posts as often as
> when he is at home. My guess is Karen is glad she can just leave him
> in the motel room, and enjoy herself.
>
anyone checked to see if there are any conferences or conventions going
on there currently? It would be funny if something brick layer related
is going on at the resort.
justwaitaf...@gmail.com
> Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
>
>
>
> > HK wrote:
> >>> On May 19, 10:01 am, loogypic...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On May 19, 9:50 am, jim7856 <no.n...@niet.neg> wrote:
>
> >>>>> It's supposed to stop raining a week from Thursday at which time you
> >>>>> might even see some of that famous Florida sunshine.
> >>>>> Pass it on to Harry. :-)
> >>>> And it rained all day there yesterday, when Harry took his alleged
> >>>> photo.
>
> >>> Pffffftttt...
>
> >> Loogy is full of shit as usual. Yesterday was lovely here until about
> >> 2:30 pm, when the heavens broke loose and it rained continuously until
> >> about 9 pm.
>
> >> Right now, where we are, the sky is overcast and there's a little
> >> breeze, but no rain.
>
> >> Not easy shooting between the palms:
>
>
> > It is amazing that when Harry goes on vacation, he posts as often as
> > when he is at home. My guess is Karen is glad she can just leave him
> > in the motel room, and enjoy herself.
>
> Could be that she is there on business and he's just a tag-a-long. Has
> anyone checked to see if there are any conferences or conventions going
> on there currently? It would be funny if something brick layer related
>
> - Show quoted text -
Could be just another "nice Owl"!
<snerk>
HK
What it could be is that about 10 years ago, we bought into the Disney
Vacation Club, which is a timeshare ala Disney, and therefore no funny
business and no monkey business, really nice resorts and access to a lot
of places that are not Disney resorts. We've got a *lot* of points in
the Club and now that my wife is virtually out of school for the first
time in about a decade, we have the time to take a few vacations a year.
We both like Disney resorts, though as I once stated, I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard. The land-based resorts outside of WDW have activities
for the kiddies, but are much more adult-oriented. This is the third
non-theme-park WDW resort we have visited.
Much more comfy than sleeping in a camper or a tent, eh?
jim7856
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
I often wondered who fell for those timeshare ripoffs. Now I know.
Unless you purchase the timeshare from an individual who was trying to
get out from underneath the annual fees and maintenance cost you have
been ripped off. Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.
http://clarkhoward.com/shownotes/category/10/64/208/
--
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HK
> On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
> <rpsmit...@spamme.com> wrote:
>
>> Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
>> VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
>> can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
>> on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.
>
> brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
> numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
> with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
> extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
> us how "cheap" it is.
> Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
> as quickly as possible.
>
It sorta depends on what you get, how much you pay for it, and whether
you can take full advantage of what is offered. Currently, the Disney
time shares similar to what we have are selling on the resale market for
three times what we paid for ours about 10 years ago, even in today's
sucky economy. I didn't have a "note," as we paid for the share in cash.
jps
My folks did the same in Mexico 25 years ago. We went with them for
years and really enjoyed it. Listened to their pitch several times
and agree with your take. If you can take advantage of it, depending
on the price, it can be worth it.
I've looked on ebay for timeshares in the same area of Mexico and
(prior to swine flu scare) found that many people are happy to unload
them for next to nothing to avoid the yearly maintenance fees.
I expect between flu and drug cartel news that Mexican timeshares are
pesos to the dollar.
jim7856
> On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
> <rpsmit...@spamme.com> wrote:
>
>> Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
>> VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
>> can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
>> on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.
>
> brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
> numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
> with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
> extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
> us how "cheap" it is.
> Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
> as quickly as possible.
>
I wonder why Krause fell for the pitch. He should know better.
HK
First time I was in Cancun, I went to a pitch about a timeshare south of
there, on the way to Tulum. This was 30 years ago. It was a deal
incorporating Mexico's land lease provisions for non-nationals. The
developer hadn't broken ground yet. The "share" for two full weeks was
about $1500. Went by the place again in 1992, I think. Fully developed,
and shares now selling for 20 times the original offering price. Tulum
and Merida are two of my favorite places in Mexico.
jps
We've concentrated on the left coast. Cancun seems too much like San
Diego, with most destinations being vacation spots and little else.
Part of the charm is going to a city with some history and culture and
locals to mix and learn from. Nothing like going to a city center and
taking in the Catholic church, public market, shops and food.
Great experience for the kids. They get to witness kids in very
different circumstances. Good reference for their lives in the US.
When I was 13, my folks took the family all over Mexico including a
trip via taxi from Acapulco to Mexico City. It was an incredible eye
opener for a new teen. That was in the sixties when there was a real
middle class emerging in the country. It's since been squashed.
loogy...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
That is pure bullshit. Timeshares aren't an investment.
So, you paid $300 dollars for it??
Or did you pay less than $300:
Vic Smith
>On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
><rpsmit...@spamme.com> wrote:
>
>>Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
>>VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
>>can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
>>on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.
>
>It is always fun going to one of those time share pitches with my
>brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
>numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
>with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
>extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
>us how "cheap" it is.
>Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
>as quickly as possible.
>
I've read that some people PAY to unload their timeshares and get out
from under the maintenance.
We've been staying in timeshare housekeeping units at a place on the
beach at St. Pete about the last 5 years of Florida vacations.
Used to be a pure rental "resort." Very few "resorts" left.
About a grand a week, and if you reserve early enough and are flexible
within any month you can pretty much get a specific unit.
I think about 1/4 of the units are for sale at any given time.
Maybe I've been just a little bit tempted to pick one up, but I won't.
Talking to owners there, quite a few are from Georgia, and family
members often have adjoining units.
"How do like the new TV's? That's my sister's unit you're in."
Seems real nice for family gatherings, as many do.
Speaking of Vero Beach, that's the town that told me never to vacation
in Florida in the winter. A workmate flew down there for a week's
vacation in January in 1980. Came back pale as when he went and told
me it never got over 50F and he spent a lot of time watching TV.
Since vacation and beach are the same word to me, I vowed never to do
that, and have never been to Florida except in the summer or fall.
Of course living there is different, and sometimes I'm envious of
those balmy winter 50's.
And farther south is a better winter bet for vacation, but I've never
been willing to risk my vacation time.
Hurricane season is my Florida vacation play. Cheaper rates too.
--Vic
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> On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
> <rpsmit...@spamme.com> wrote:
>
>>Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
>>VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
>>can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
>>on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.
>
> brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
> numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
> with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
> extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
> us how "cheap" it is.
> Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
> as quickly as possible.
We also enjoy going to those sales pitches. Great *entertainment* for a
couple of hours. We've done about a half dozen in the 17 years here in the
"sunshine" state. 5.7" of rain in the past 48 hours and it looks like
Friday (maybe) before another golf day.
Can't complain about the rain. Just wish it wouldn't last all of the
daylight hours.
Richard Casady
> I wouldn't take a
>Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
>rugrats onboard.
Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.
Casady
HK
We're going on a National Geo/Linblad cruise. Small ship, interesting
itinerary, knowledgeable guides.
John H
Harry knows nothing of Disney cruises. Although they are not designed
for kid-haters, like Krause, they offer some great features. I've been
on two and would go again in a minute. Escaping the kids, if that's
your desire, is easy. Just go to an adult only section of the ship.
--
John H
loogy...@gmail.com
>
> >> I wouldn't take a
> >> Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
> >> rugrats onboard.
>
> > Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.
>
> > Casady
>
> We're going on a National Geo/Linblad cruise. Small ship, interesting
> itinerary, knowledgeable guides.
Yeah, we believe you.....NOT. Hey, why not just take your lobster boat?
HK
> On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:27:14 -0500, Richard Casady
> <richar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> (Disney, Carnival etc)
> We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
> Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
> For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
> Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
> see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
> a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
> "bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
> the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
> crew compartment one night.
>
> On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
> bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
> right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
> you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.
That's one of the appealing factors of the National Geo cruises...the
ships look like...ships, not like...wedding cakes. Nor do they have the
capacity of some small cities.
loogy...@gmail.com
>
> >> On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59:41 -0400, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>
> >>> I wouldn't take a
> >>> Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
> >>> rugrats onboard.
> >> Try Holland America. Few kids, lots of basically harmless geezers.
>
> >> Casady
>
> > Second that, Far better than any of the "family" cruise ships
> > (Disney, Carnival etc)
> > We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
> > Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
> > For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
> > Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
> > see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
> > a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
> > "bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
> > the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
> > crew compartment one night.
>
> > On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
> > bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
> > right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
> > you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.
>
> That's one of the appealing factors of the National Geo cruises...the
> ships look like...ships, not like...wedding cakes. Nor do they have the
>
> - Show quoted text -
How do you tell what the ship looks like when you are on it?
John H
>On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:27:14 -0500, Richard Casady
>Second that, Far better than any of the "family" cruise ships
>(Disney, Carnival etc)
>We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
>Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
>For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
>Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
>see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
>a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
>"bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
>the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
>crew compartment one night.
>
>On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
>bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
>right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
>you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.
Here's what a real cruise ship should look like.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/jherring1/Disney07b274.jpg
The lifeboat deck is open, as is the bow and stern.
--
John H
loogy...@gmail.com
> On Tue, 26 May 2009 13:36:34 -0400, gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
> >On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:27:14 -0500, Richard Casady
>
> - Show quoted text -
I wonder what Harry is talking about? Looks as much like a ship as
about any ship does! Maybe it needs a big notch out of the transom to
take advantage of the cleaning action of following seas!
D K
Now *that* was funny!
HK
> On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:57:04 -0400, John H <salmo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Second that, Far better than any of the "family" cruise ships
>>> (Disney, Carnival etc)
>>> We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
>>> Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
>>> For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
>>> Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
>>> see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
>>> a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
>>> "bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
>>> the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
>>> crew compartment one night.
>>>
>>> On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
>>> bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
>>> right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
>>> you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.
>> Here's what a real cruise ship should look like.
>>
>> http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/jherring1/Disney07b274.jpg
>>
>> The lifeboat deck is open, as is the bow and stern.
>> --
>
> forward deck. Can you actually see out of those windows in front or is
> that all for the bridge?
Hard to tell from the photos, but it looks as if only the uppermost deck
is open to the elements and the sea. If so, it's probably to keep all
the kiddies from falling overboard. Nothing quite like being on a cruise
with 2000 of your closest friends, eh?
John H
>On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:57:04 -0400, John H <salmo...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>Second that, Far better than any of the "family" cruise ships
>>>(Disney, Carnival etc)
>>>We did a 7 day on the Noorham that was great.
>>>Destiny, Fantasy (Carnival)... not so much.
>>>For one thing you are totally isolated from being at sea on the
>>>Carnival boats. It is real hard to find a place where you can actually
>>>see it. Walking down the main hall in the Destiny is like being inside
>>>a pinball machine. There are chase lights in the floor and constant
>>>"bing bong" sounds coming from the casino. The only way I got up near
>>>the bow was to hang out with the band and get up there through the
>>>crew compartment one night.
>>>
>>>On the Noordham you feel like a passenger on a ship. The Crow's nest
>>>bar is really cool. They keep the lights dimmed and there is a place
>>>right at the bow with a big binnacle compass. From the 04 deck (or so)
>>>you really get a sense that this is a ship moving through the water.
>>
>>Here's what a real cruise ship should look like.
>>
>>http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/jherring1/Disney07b274.jpg
>>
>>The lifeboat deck is open, as is the bow and stern.
>>--
>
>Nice looking ship but I bet the passengers can't get out on that
>forward deck. Can you actually see out of those windows in front or is
>that all for the bridge?
The bow is open, the stern is open, the windows in front are for the
bridge, but the deck above the bridge is open. The lifeboat deck is
open except at the bow and stern. This deck is a great place for
jogging or walking.
Here is a good representation of the ship. Click on an area to
enlarge.
Remember, Harry's not been, so you'll see a lot of jealousy there -
and the natural narcissism that comes with HK.
--
John H
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
A few years Harry was planning on going over to Egypt as part of the
United Nation's effort to train them how to build homes. While he was ,
and was going to go fishing for some Nile Carp, he might have gone of a
cruise at that time
--
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loogy...@gmail.com
> gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:57:04 -0400, John H <salmonb...@gmail.com>
>
> - Show quoted text -
You wouldn't know because you have no friends. Ever wonder why?
Richard Casady
wrote:
>The bow is open, the stern is open, the windows in front are for the
>bridge, but the deck above the bridge is open.
On Holland America ships there is a bar with three floor to ceiling
walls. It is directly above the bridge and has bigger windows.
Casady
Richard Casady
wrote:
>Maybe it needs a big notch out of the transom to
>> take advantage of the cleaning action of following seas!
>
>Now *that* was funny!
Now, now. Parker makes a number of boats with the motors on brackets
and a full height transom.
Casady
Richard Casady
>How do you tell what the ship looks like when you are on it?
When you leave the ship to look for a seedy bar, or whatever.
Casady
John H
OK, but don't most walls go from floor to ceiling?
The Disney Magic has several bars, at least two with unobstructed
outdoor views of the ocean.
But, whatever Harry is going on or has been on will be a much better
cruise ship...simply because.
--
John H
loogy...@gmail.com
> On Wed, 27 May 2009 12:06:11 -0500, Richard Casady
>
> >On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:46:01 -0400, John H <salmonb...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>The bow is open, the stern is open, the windows in front are for the
> >>bridge, but the deck above the bridge is open.
>
> >On Holland America ships there is a bar with three floor to ceiling
> >walls. It is directly above the bridge and has bigger windows.
>
> >Casady
>
> OK, but don't most walls go from floor to ceiling?
>
> The Disney Magic has several bars, at least two with unobstructed
> outdoor views of the ocean.
>
> But, whatever Harry is going on or has been on will be a much better
> cruise ship...simply because.
> --
>
> John H
Because:
A narcissist can be dishonest but at the same time is a master of
disguise and can lie very convincingly.
A narcissist thinks that he or she is entitled to special privileges
or special treatment.
Richard Casady
wrote:
>OK, but don't most walls go from floor to ceiling?
I seem to have left out a word, make that glass walls. You could see
270 degrees of ocean.
Casady