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Short Wave Sportfishing

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Mar 6, 2008, 5:07:33 PM3/6/08
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Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
feet."

WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.

After safely accomplishing that with no small amount of skill (yeah
right - it was tough, but once I calmed down, things went very well),
I went south to a couple of marinas to look at CC boats.

Still conflicted about the whole large CC vs Cuddy. Looked at the
Canyon 33 again and talked to the dealer - he's not getting a lot of
traffic on the boat - I may win this one yet.

Found a Jupiter 31 Cuddy http://www.jupitermarine.com/31c.aspx that I
liked a lot - white with blue accents - my favorite color scheme.

Still have a couple of weeks before I decide to pull the trigger -
I've renewed my slip, so I have a place to put it. If not, I can keep
the slip and let the marina use it for transients with a kickback to
me.

Great day all around - getting the fever to get back on the water.

Tim

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Mar 6, 2008, 5:16:51 PM3/6/08
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
> in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
> the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
> feet."
>
> WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
>


Tom, those litle Robinson's are neat. Are you persuing a private
ticket?

Actually I thought you'd had enough chopper time while "grunting"

Glad you had a great day!

Tim

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Mar 6, 2008, 5:29:47 PM3/6/08
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> Still conflicted about the whole large CC vs Cuddy. Looked at the
> Canyon 33 again and talked to the dealer - he's not getting a lot of
> traffic on the boat - I may win this one yet.
>
> Found a Jupiter 31 Cuddy http://www.jupitermarine.com/31c.aspx that I
> liked a lot - white with blue accents - my favorite color scheme.
>
> Still have a couple of weeks before I decide to pull the trigger -
> I've renewed my slip, so I have a place to put it. If not, I can keep
> the slip and let the marina use it for transients with a kickback to
> me.
>
> Great day all around - getting the fever to get back on the water.

Great loking CC cuddie, Tom. But where's the E-TEC's???

Eisboch

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Mar 6, 2008, 5:40:12 PM3/6/08
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsports.org> wrote in message
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> Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
> in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
> the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
> feet."
>
> WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
>

Based on my limited knowledge, if you can do that, you've got it 95% licked.

Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.

Eisboch


Reginald P. Smithers III

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Mar 6, 2008, 5:41:40 PM3/6/08
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Eisboch wrote:

>
> Reminds me of standing on top of a 5' diameter beach ball and trying to walk
> it down a narrow sidewalk without crashing it into anything or falling off.
>
> Eisboch

Do you do this often? ;)

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HK

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Mar 6, 2008, 5:57:27 PM3/6/08
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In the shop, of course.

Eisboch

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Mar 6, 2008, 5:58:47 PM3/6/08
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"Gene Kearns" <gene.b...@myworkshop.idleplay.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:07:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
> following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

>
>>Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
>>in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
>>the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
>>feet."
>
> Whew..... helioflopters..... maintenance hogs....
>


And never intended to fly.

Eisboch


Eisboch

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Mar 6, 2008, 6:08:17 PM3/6/08
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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LOL.

No, but if you have ever tried to hover a helicopter (as a newbie) staying
in place, 2 or 3 feet above the ground, you would understand the analogy.

Eisboch


justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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Mar 6, 2008, 6:36:00 PM3/6/08
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On Mar 6, 5:57 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> Tim wrote:
>
> > Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> >> Still conflicted about the whole large CC vs Cuddy.  Looked at the
> >> Canyon 33 again and talked to the dealer - he's not getting a lot of
> >> traffic on the boat - I may win this one yet.
>
> >> Found a Jupiter 31 Cuddyhttp://www.jupitermarine.com/31c.aspxthat I

> >> liked a lot - white with blue accents - my favorite color scheme.
>
> >> Still have a couple of weeks before I decide to pull the trigger -
> >> I've renewed my slip, so I have a place to put it.  If not, I can keep
> >> the slip and let the marina use it for transients with a kickback to
> >> me.
>
> >> Great day all around - getting the fever to get back on the water.
>
> > Great loking CC cuddie, Tom. But where's the E-TEC's???
>
> In the shop, of course.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

2.5 Harry, we can make this work...;)

Mike

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Mar 6, 2008, 6:41:38 PM3/6/08
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Like trying to keep a marble centered on a piece of glass.

--Mike

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HK

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Mar 6, 2008, 6:49:26 PM3/6/08
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Maybe *this* will be the summer in which I see an actual ETEC -running-
out on the Bay! That silly 30-minute ETEC infomercial is running over
and over and over and over on VERSUS, so there's a chance that ETEC will
grab up to .23% of the outboard engine market share this century.

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Mar 6, 2008, 6:52:18 PM3/6/08
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I've been lucky to inherit good hand/eye coordination. I still have a
long way to go before a solo run at altitude at any distance, but it
was a great confidence booster.

I just have an affinity for it - I really enjoy the whole concept.
Fixed wing aircraft always give me a feeling of claustrophobia - for
some reason it's just not a lot of fun for me.

Helicopters have a whole different feeling.

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Mar 6, 2008, 6:52:55 PM3/6/08
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On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:48:56 -0500, Gene Kearns
<gene.b...@myworkshop.idleplay.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:07:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
>following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
>

>>Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
>>in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
>>the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
>>feet."
>

>Whew..... helioflopters..... maintenance hogs....

Fixed wing elitist. :>)

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Mar 6, 2008, 6:53:27 PM3/6/08
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But they do.

Spooky.

Eisboch

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsports.org> wrote in message
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> But they do.

Most of the time.

Eisboch


D.Duck

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Mar 6, 2008, 7:01:17 PM3/6/08
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsports.org> wrote in message
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A genius before his time.

http://orionrobots.co.uk/tiki-index.php?page=Leonardo+Da+Vincis+Helicopter


Short Wave Sportfishing

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Mar 6, 2008, 7:03:57 PM3/6/08
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So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
paddock and offer you a ride? :>)

Don White

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Mar 6, 2008, 7:10:49 PM3/6/08
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsports.org> wrote in message
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snip..

> Still conflicted about the whole large CC vs Cuddy. Looked at the
> Canyon 33 again and talked to the dealer - he's not getting a lot of
> traffic on the boat - I may win this one yet.
>
> Found a Jupiter 31 Cuddy http://www.jupitermarine.com/31c.aspx that I
> liked a lot - white with blue accents - my favorite color scheme.
>
> Still have a couple of weeks before I decide to pull the trigger -
> I've renewed my slip, so I have a place to put it. If not, I can keep
> the slip and let the marina use it for transients with a kickback to
> me.
>
> Great day all around - getting the fever to get back on the water.


If i was paying all that money for a boat that size and slip fees, I'd want
to be able to overnight on it once in a while.


HK

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Mar 6, 2008, 7:22:24 PM3/6/08
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Jupiter makes some great boats, but these days, with regular grade
gasoline climbing to $4.00 US at gasoline stations and higher at
marinas, and with that 31-footer required at least two 250 hp engines,
maybe more...whew! Probably burns 30 gph or more at a reasonable cruise
speed...that's going to be $120-$150 an hour, just to move along at a
nice clip.

Not that I wouldn't want to own one...but I'd want to own a string of
gasoline stations, too!

Don White

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Mar 6, 2008, 8:32:57 PM3/6/08
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsports.org> wrote in message
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Plan on making any international flights?


Eisboch

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Mar 6, 2008, 8:38:10 PM3/6/08
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsports.org> wrote in message
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Never said that. Come on over.
I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)

Eisboch


Don White

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Mar 6, 2008, 8:36:23 PM3/6/08
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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Tom just sold off his half of Connecticut, he's probably not too worried
about gas. ;-)


JimH

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsports.org> wrote in message
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> Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
> in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
> the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
> feet."
>
> WHOO HOO!!! Not bad for ten hours total of instruction time.
>
> After safely accomplishing that with no small amount of skill (yeah
> right - it was tough, but once I calmed down, things went very well),
> I went south to a couple of marinas to look at CC boats.
>

Congratulations on the training flight accomplishment.


Eisboch

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Mar 6, 2008, 8:56:37 PM3/6/08
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"D.Duck" <D...@ald.duck> wrote in message
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True, but it wasn't until Igor Sikorski figured out gyroscopic precession
controls that the helicopter became flyable with any safety or stability.

Eisboch


BAR

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Mar 6, 2008, 9:27:06 PM3/6/08
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Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?

Tim

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Mar 6, 2008, 10:01:43 PM3/6/08
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> Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, on various occasions, some people like me were hanging out of
them with an M-60, M2 BMG, or a GE M-134

HK

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Mar 6, 2008, 10:03:35 PM3/6/08
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You weren't that guy who inspired the helicopter scene from "Full Metal
Jacket," were you?

Tim

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Mar 6, 2008, 10:23:13 PM3/6/08
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> Jacket," were you?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL! , er... not hardly.

however I could have been one of the guys hanging on the skid at the
USO show in Apokolypse Now...

BAR

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Mar 6, 2008, 10:28:28 PM3/6/08
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Makes it easier to get out when you crash, not if you crash.

Back in the early 80's there were a bunch of guys in my reserve unit
wanting to go regular if they could become door gunners on Heuys. They
were in technical MOSes and the USMC in its infinite wisdom wasn't going
to put highly trained technical jarheads in the door of a Huey.

HK

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Well, we do have something in common: we recognize what is important and
the importance of trying to hang onto it.

Tim

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> to put highly trained technical jarheads in the door of a Huey.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

well, their infinte wisdom didn't draw that conclusion 15-20 years
earlier..

Tim

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> the importance of trying to hang onto it.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

HA! Yeah, and what those guys were wanting to hang onto they couldnt'
get anyhow.

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Mar 7, 2008, 6:33:28 AM3/7/08
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On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:38:10 -0500, "Eisboch" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsports.org> wrote in message
>news:1n11t3pjrr6n33795...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:55:37 -0500, "Eisboch" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsports.org> wrote in message
>>>news:8411t31suhj7ec9l5...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:58:47 -0500, "Eisboch" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Gene Kearns" <gene.b...@myworkshop.idleplay.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:47d074c6$0$1347$834e...@reader.greatnowhere.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:07:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
>>>>>> following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Started off this morning with an hour and a half of instruction time
>>>>>>>in the R22, then the CFI climbs out, says "Take it down to the end of
>>>>>>>the runway, hover for a minute and bring it back - don't go over ten
>>>>>>>feet."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whew..... helioflopters..... maintenance hogs....
>>>>>
>>>>>And never intended to fly.
>>>
>>>> But they do.
>>>
>>>Most of the time.
>>
>> So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
>> paddock and offer you a ride? :>)
>
>Never said that. Come on over.

Won't you be surprised if I do. Heh, heh, heh...

>I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)

Horses? I ain't getting on no horse - them things is dangerous.

Reginald P. Smithers III

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Mar 7, 2008, 6:33:44 AM3/7/08
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

>>>> Most of the time.
>>> So I take it that when I get my ticket, I can't fly over, land in your
>>> paddock and offer you a ride? :>)
>> Never said that. Come on over.
>
> Won't you be surprised if I do. Heh, heh, heh...
>
>> I'll reciprocate with a ride on one of Mrs.E's horses. :-)
>
> Horses? I ain't getting on no horse - them things is dangerous.

Do you plan on using your new skills for anything besides a hobby?

John H.

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Mar 7, 2008, 7:38:11 AM3/7/08
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Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
--
John H

John H.

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Mar 7, 2008, 7:39:54 AM3/7/08
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Shooting through doors would be a real bitch. As would dropping mortar
rounds.
--
John H

John H.

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Mar 7, 2008, 7:41:06 AM3/7/08
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You can get to the fishing spots quickly with a helicopter. That would have
to be some fast 'drift fishing', although I guess you could put floats on
the damn thing.
--
John H

Reginald P. Smithers III

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Mar 7, 2008, 7:40:34 AM3/7/08
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LOL, yeah that's the ticket.

Actually, I know SWS was/is very active in paramedic work and was
wondering if he was going to use it with his volunteer work.

Short Wave Sportfishing

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On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:33:44 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
<"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com> wrote:

Not really. It's just something that I've always wanted to do since I
was a grunt.

I used to spend time on the flight line and got to know a few of the
pilots who used to let me ride left seat/right seat occasionally on
test flights. Later on when I was really involved with the VFD, I
volunteered with Life Flight as a Paramedic four shifts a month after
I retired.

Helicopters just fascinate me for some reason - can't explain it.

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Mar 7, 2008, 8:09:20 AM3/7/08
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Great minds think alike.

I thought about that actually. Back in the day, I took a float plane
trip to a remote lake in Canada's NW Territory and we spent the day
fishing from the planes floats. Could do it from a 'copter just as
easily.

Hey, it would be very cool to spot a school from the air, land in
front of it and fish away. :>)

John H.

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Mar 7, 2008, 9:38:11 AM3/7/08
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If it's tuna you're going after, let me know!

I spent about five months in God's country doing observer work from a
helicopter as an S-2 guy. I'll ride out to tuna country any time. I would
like, before I die, to catch a tuna and eat that bugger.
--
John H

Loogy...@gmail.com

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Mar 7, 2008, 3:13:47 PM3/7/08
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> get anyhow.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

In a few minutes, Harry will be compelled to lie once again. probably
telling us about all of the helicopters he's owned, how his father
single handed one around the world, how he's got a landing pad on his
lobster boat for the Bush's etc.

HK

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Loogy...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 6, 10:50 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> In a few minutes, Harry will be compelled to lie once again.

Loogy-Bassy has a three digit IQ and is a graduate of an engineering school.

Loogy...@gmail.com

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Mar 7, 2008, 3:43:04 PM3/7/08
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On Mar 7, 3:17 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:

The only truthful statement you've ever made here.
Tell us again how your father crossed the Atlantic in a runabout and
got a fireboat welcome in NY for his efforts. Do you hve any idea why
there wouldn't be any recollection of such a feat?

Loogy...@gmail.com

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Mar 7, 2008, 3:47:06 PM3/7/08
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On Mar 7, 3:17 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:

Tell us all again how you can only use chords if you strum as opposed
to picking......
Then tell us again how you are a guitar player......

Tim

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Mar 7, 2008, 6:16:52 PM3/7/08
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John H. wrote:
> >
> >Why do you see helicopters flying with their doors open?
>
> Open? How about 'off'. I don't recall ever seeing the damn doors.
> --
> John H

They were around, John. (pic of a USN HU-UD1)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-1-dvic328.jpg


You had to remove them if you had a fixed m-134 mini or a stationary
mounted M-2, but they could have been left on., just not closed. Less
weight and less turbulance.

Most had them taken off, though, unless it was an actual MED-VAC
'copter

Turbulance? in a ... chopper????

John H.

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Mar 7, 2008, 6:28:50 PM3/7/08
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Hell, I thought they took them off to make it noisier inside and move
streamlined, for those damn vertical descents. Chopper pilots were a crazy
bunch. These were our guys in Cu Chi:

http://25thaviation.org/id29.htm
--
***** Hope your day is a little better than decent! *****

John H

Short Wave Sportfising

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Mar 7, 2008, 7:25:50 PM3/7/08
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Our guys...

DK

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Mar 7, 2008, 8:58:54 PM3/7/08
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Let me guess. Harry has a four-digit IQ? Amazing!

John H.

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Mar 7, 2008, 9:49:25 PM3/7/08
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Yeah, the Little Bears were the ones that flew us around all the time. They
took me up for morning dawn patrol for six months. They also had a nice
club on Cu Chi to which the Engineers (always in demand) were always
welcome.

I sure don't feel badly calling them 'our guys'.

Something wrong with that, in your humble opinion?

-rick-

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

> Actually, I know SWS was/is very active in paramedic work and was
> wondering if he was going to use it with his volunteer work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkH6uPBPymY

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=helicopter+crash&search_type=

Reginald P. Smithers III

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Mar 8, 2008, 6:21:15 AM3/8/08
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Rick,
Were all those of SWS flying? If so, he does seem to be a little bit
uneasy at the helm.

Short Wave Sportfising

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On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:49:25 -0500, John H.
<jherringnu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

No, no - not at all. For some reason I can't explain, the rest of the
post got cut off.

Allow me...

Our guys...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMM-364

John H.

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Mar 8, 2008, 8:17:49 AM3/8/08
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:37:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
<em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote:

Thanks for the explanation. It did seem like a cheap little shot! :>)

You guys used the 'Sea Knights', we used the 'Chinooks'. No matter, I
hated the noisy son's of bitches. I never got friendly with any of those
pilots, but never flew in the damn things much. I don't know what unit
supported us with the Chinooks.

Short Wave Sportfising

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Mar 8, 2008, 8:33:52 AM3/8/08
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:17:49 -0500, John H.
<jherringnu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

They had Chinooks for a little while, but the Sea Knights came very
quickly. I remember the first ride I had in a Chinook - nothing like
looking straight down through the floor boards at 5,000 feet. :>)

There was also a light scout group, can't remember their designation
at the moment, which had Huey's, Cobras and those little scout
'copters that I occasionally used to fly with.

John H.

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Mar 8, 2008, 11:09:03 AM3/8/08
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:33:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
<em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote:

The Kiowa was coming in during the last couple months I was there, but I
never had the opportunity to go up in one. Cute little buggers though.

http://tri.army.mil/LC/CS/csa/oh58ao.jpg

Tim

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On Mar 8, 5:37 am, Short Wave Sportfising <em...@swsportsremove.org>
wrote:

>


> No, no - not at all.  For some reason I can't explain, the rest of the
> post got cut off.  
>
> Allow me...
>


you sure you wern't using Google?

?;^ o

Tim

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Mar 8, 2008, 3:19:44 PM3/8/08
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On Mar 8, 7:33 am, Short Wave Sportfising <em...@swsportsremove.org>
wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:17:49 -0500, John H.
>
>
>
>
>
> <jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:37:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
> ><em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>
> >>On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:49:25 -0500, John H.
> >><jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:25:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
> >>><em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
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> >>>>On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:28:50 -0500, John H.
> >>>><jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>those floor boards were designed that way to drain off the leaking hydrolic fluid.

John H.

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...or to save money by not installing toilets.
--
John

Tim

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On Mar 8, 2:33 pm, John H. <jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> John- Hide quoted text -

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That too!

I found out you don't dare take a leak out the door opening while
flying.

Short Wave Sportfising

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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:33:11 -0500, John H.
<jherringnu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>> They had Chinooks for a little while, but the Sea Knights came very
>>> quickly.  I remember the first ride I had in a Chinook - nothing like
>>> looking straight down through the floor boards at 5,000 feet.  :>)
>>>
>>>those floor boards were designed that way to drain off the leaking hydrolic fluid.
>
>...or to save money by not installing toilets.

And there in a tale which will never be told. :>)

Maynard G. Krebbs

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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:37:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfising
<em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote:

snippity-snip


>
>No, no - not at all. For some reason I can't explain, the rest of the
>post got cut off.
>
>Allow me...
>
>Our guys...
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMM-364

We never were sure who was going to be flying us on any given day.
What I heard is they had to volenteer to fly Recon
insertion/extraction. Some of the pilots and crews were great and
some of them were, well...somewhat lacking.

Mark E. Williams
http://members.cox.net/reconradio/index.html

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