Does Iran obey our laws now? Did I miss something here? ???
Or is the ad addressed to those who get their news from the Simpsons or
Beavis and Butthead, i.e., those who will gain from Obama's income
redistribution plans.
You really, truly, are a dumb schitt...thank god you are no longer in
the military.
In 2005, U.S. Sen. Dick Lugar, then the chairman of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee, and Obama traveled to Russia, Ukraine and
Azerbaijan to examine the former Soviet Union's stockpiles of nuclear,
chemical and biological weapons. Lugar and former Sen. Sam Nunn, D-Ga.,
were the authors of legislation in 1991 to provide money and expertise
to those countries to safeguard and dismantle those stockpiles and their
delivery systems.
Obama and Lugar teamed up to sponsor legislation to expand the
Nunn-Lugar effort to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass
destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The
legislation became law last year.
What's McCain done? Chant "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran?"
No matter who we vote for, the person with their finger on THAT BUTTON
will be a member of all the same secret societies as Bush W and his dad.
CFR
Freemasons
Banker cartels
Bohemian Society
etc.....
We're not allowed to vote for anyone but the secret societies'
employees....
The election is a sham. It's already been decided by the CFR elite.
Haven't you seen the news?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LBrDzZCOQtI
The election may be saved, however, by an emerging third party group:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QWdN4hA-rB0
Here, you can see some of the terrible damage done by the last one
America picked....well, not exactly picked....the judges picked. Right,
Harry?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_aEURwsrUSQ
If cable tv would give Onion News their own 24 hour news channel, I
might be tempted to buy cable tv service with my internet as there would
be something worth watching besides all those lies, drivel and
commercials on all the other news channels....Fox, CNN, MSNBC, QVC,
Weather Channel...all propaganda lies.
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=TheOnion
The highest rated videos on YouTube....Noone else is even close!
> In 2005, U.S. Sen. Dick Lugar, then the chairman of the CFL-controlled
Senate Foreign
> Relations Committee, and Obama traveled to Russia, Ukraine and
> Azerbaijan to examine the former Soviet Union's stockpiles of nuclear,
>
Text corrected to reflect who actually RUNS the FRC.....
They're all club members, including Lugar.
> Larry, as a Past Master and Past Patron, you have finally convinced me
> that you are a nut case. Listing the above in the same sentence is
> just unbelievable.... Banker Cartels? Bohemian Society? WTF is
> that???? A bunch of coked out ex-rockers??? Jeeze. You are stuck in
> some sort of time dilation of 1840's South Carolina politics.....
>
>
I'll play for a while.....
YOU took an oath to Freemasonry...many oaths if you got as high as you
say.
By taking this oath, above all else, you have committed yourself,
totally, to the constitution, edicts, instructions, and dogma of this
secret society.
How can ANYONE who takes a solemn oath, with awful punishments for
simply revealing Freemasony outside the cult, take ANOTHER oath to
protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, in direct
conflict with his Freemasonry oath to obey whatever the Supreme Council,
CONVENIENTLY located a symbolic 13 blocks North of the front doof of the
White House, tells him to do?
Who do you obey? Suppose your Freemason Supreme Council tells you to
bomb Iraq, against the will of the American People, against the
constitution because no war against Iraq has been declared by the
Congress and a vast majority of the American people are against it? Who
do you obey? YOU are the Freemason President with all that power to
push that button as you see fit. So isn't your Freemason Vice
President, your Freemason Secretary of Defense, your Freemasons in the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, CIA, FBI, Justice Department, Homeland Security,
FEMA and every other important agency heads.
It's not just Freemasonry. It's ALL the secret societies. Skull and
Bones at Yale, Bohemian Society and their owl burning rituals for the
super elite in Northern California where the Atomic Bomb was dreamed up,
the Council On Foreign Relations secret society, the Trilateral
Commission secret society....where do all their LOYALTIES LIE? Who
pulls THEIR strings, too?
Freemasonry was infiltrated by the Banking Elite long before you walked
through that door. It's common knowledge. Hell, they were at the top
of the pyramid from the beginning of most lodges after the masons
screwed up and opened membership outside their guilds. Money took over.
It still controls it. What if some "other entity" took control, say,
for example, Zionists, which would explain why AIPAC has so much control
over our government and its policies and its purse strings vis-a-vis
Israel? They get into high places and tell the Freemason 32nd degree in
the Oval Office he must obey his oath and attack Zionism's
enemies...Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, other Arab states. Is it very
important WE, the people who will pay the price for his treachery, know
EXACTLY where his allegiance lies...to US or to THEM?
But that basic question of who are YOU, a Freemason, loyal to, having
taken that binding oath to follow the orders from above you in
Freemasonry....first, ahead of everything else....that SHOULD preclude
you from taking a solemn oath to hold office in any government level in
America...or any other civilized country who forces its politicians to
swear allegiance to the COUNTRY...ONLY.
I've only taken one oath in my life. I took an oath to defend the
Constitution and my country the day I went in the Navy. It didn't mean
a lot to me then, having the gun held to my head by the damned draft
board, but it means a lot to me now in my old age. I just don't see how
any man can take an oath to a religion or cult or secret society and
SERIOUSLY take an oath to defend the country. It's a clear conflict of
interest...especially given Freemasonry's murderous history to those who
violated their oath to it, once dragged into it.
Tell me now how crazy I am.....I've listened to Freemasonry's attack
before, even to my face by local politicians. This isn't about drunks
in Fezs riding around on expensive motorcycles making a lot of noise to
attract public attention in a parade. With his finger on THAT BUTTON,
it's deadly serious for the whole of humanity on this little blue planet
who that goddamned Freemason in the White House owes his allegiance
to....US or Freemasonry? Who's Number One?
Being an atheist, I'm not eligible to belong to most cults, including
yours. I'm just as afraid of some Christian nut with his finger on THAT
BUTTON, who thinks, dispite a mountain of evidence to the contrary, the
Earth is 8000 years old made by some superguy in the sky as I am of
Freemasons in that seat. What's REALLY scary is the ones that profess
to be BOTH, in direct conflict of Freemasonry and Christian or Jewish or
Islamic dogmas. The Christians' Bible tells them not to take any oaths,
like Freemasonry's or they're gonna pay the price. It says so in
several places. How can anyone be BOTH? Someone is a liar, to
themselves, to their cults, to America.....and, right now, he's got that
finger on THAT BUTTON!
What? You don't believe in the superguy in the sky?
Have you seen this?
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Videos/?action=view¤t=christiangene.flv
What can I say, other than well put. I'll admit, I know little about
"Freemasons," or any other secret cult, other than their existance. I guess
I don't have enough $$$ to be invited into such an organization <whew>.
Kinda like "Scientologists" I suppose. Thanks for the education!
I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have that
covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime soon. <g> We
will however, help many needy children, and their families.
--Mike
San Jose, CA
Lodge #522
"Larry" <no...@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AE4E9DC2B6...@208.49.80.253...
Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.
> What? You don't believe in the superguy in the sky?
>
> Have you seen this?
>
Ha! That's very funny.
Have you seen this?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X2epvSAGuLc
Dawkins is right.....
> I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
> citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have
> that covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime
> soon. <g> We will however, help many needy children, and their
> families.
>
>
I don't find much bad press for Elks. They don't have symbolism related to
Lucifer, with earth symbols covered in netting over the front door and you
don't have to be an Elk to be considered as a political candidate, high
level government bureaucrat, or even Federal Reserve Banker. If they have
a political agenda related to the New World Order, they are much more
successful at hiding it than Freemasons are.
And, I don't think the other Elks threaten to slit their throats from ear
to ear and disembowel their guts into the street for minor transgressions
like Freemasons do....no murders or ritualistic genocides.
Likewise Moose lodges seem less threatening, even than BPOE....
Unlike Freemasons, the various animal lodges don't fill every public space
with phallic symbols like the Phallis of Osirus (Washington Monument) or
the one that USED to be in a Masonic worship park called Dealey Plaza
EXACTLY east of the spot where JFK was murdered.....a simple coincidence
I'm sure....
The Masonic symbols have been replaced, by the way, with a reflecting pool,
most of the rest taken away. Less questions, I suppose.
> Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.
>
>
Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?
Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
>Larry,
>
>What can I say, other than well put. I'll admit, I know little about
>"Freemasons," or any other secret cult, other than their existance. I guess
>I don't have enough $$$ to be invited into such an organization <whew>.
>Kinda like "Scientologists" I suppose. Thanks for the education!
>
>I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
>citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have that
>covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime soon. <g> We
>will however, help many needy children, and their families.
>
>--Mike
>
Well, as much as I'd like to hear what Gene says about all this, I
figure if he tells us, he'll have to kill us.
I'm kind of wondering where AARP falls into this, because I was
thinking of becoming a member.
Having second thoughts about that now.
--Vic
Lots of guys join these organizations so they have a cheap place to
drink themselves into oblivion every night.
None, I am sad to say. :>)
Does your Grand Exaulted Ruler know how you act here?
Harry, when do you want me to come up there and take the challenge?
I'd really like to get back with the Parker by a week from this
Saturday. Then I can get the road grime off of it and get it ready to
sell.
Hee hee. that's why we joined as young adults. A nice fun place to gather &
meet for pool, card games etc.
|Gene Kearns <gene.b...@myworkshop.idleplay.net> wrote in
|news:aikf8497ia56gj84g...@4ax.com:
|
|> Larry, as a Past Master and Past Patron, you have finally convinced me
|> that you are a nut case. Listing the above in the same sentence is
|> just unbelievable.... Banker Cartels? Bohemian Society? WTF is
|> that???? A bunch of coked out ex-rockers??? Jeeze. You are stuck in
|> some sort of time dilation of 1840's South Carolina politics.....
|>
|>
|
|I'll play for a while.....
|
|YOU took an oath to Freemasonry...many oaths if you got as high as you
|say.
|
|By taking this oath, above all else, you have committed yourself,
|totally, to the constitution, edicts, instructions, and dogma of this
|secret society.
There is no constitution. There are no edicts because there is nobody
to pass them down. There is no dogma. How could it be a secret society
if you know about it?
|
|How can ANYONE who takes a solemn oath, with awful punishments for
|simply revealing Freemasony outside the cult, take ANOTHER oath to
|protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, in direct
|conflict with his Freemasonry oath to obey whatever the Supreme Council,
|CONVENIENTLY located a symbolic 13 blocks North of the front doof of the
|White House, tells him to do?
Part of that oath is to obey the laws of your land...There is no
Supreme Council. If you are referring to the Scottish Rite, they are
merely an appendant group. Just like the Shriners, you have to be a
Freemason to join, but it is not a part of Freemasonry.
|Who do you obey? Suppose your Freemason Supreme Council tells you to
|bomb Iraq, against the will of the American People, against the
|constitution because no war against Iraq has been declared by the
|Congress and a vast majority of the American people are against it?
You have an incredibly tilted notion of what this is about. There is
no "Freemason Supreme Council." Again, if you are talking Scottish
Rite, they have no authority over any Blue Lodge... quite to the
contrary, the Blue Lodges hold authority over *all* of the appendant
bodies.
| Who
|do you obey? YOU are the Freemason President with all that power to
|push that button as you see fit. So isn't your Freemason Vice
|President, your Freemason Secretary of Defense, your Freemasons in the
|Joint Chiefs of Staff, CIA, FBI, Justice Department, Homeland Security,
|FEMA and every other important agency heads.
Hmmmm.... I give you something to worry about....
Clinton was not a Mason, neither was Johnson. McCain probably is.
Obama is a Prince Hall Mason.... I wonder what the changes will be
when the Prince Hall Supreme Council takes over? Wow... this can get
really weird, really fast....
|It's not just Freemasonry. It's ALL the secret societies. Skull and
|Bones at Yale, Bohemian Society and their owl burning rituals for the
|super elite in Northern California where the Atomic Bomb was dreamed up,
|the Council On Foreign Relations secret society, the Trilateral
|Commission secret society....where do all their LOYALTIES LIE? Who
|pulls THEIR strings, too?
I have no clue. I don't even know if they have strings! I know they
have nothing to do with Freemasonry. I belong to The Benevolent &
Protective Order of Elks an Elk, too..... what insidious designs do
they have that I am not aware of?
|Freemasonry was infiltrated by the Banking Elite long before you walked
|through that door. It's common knowledge.
Really? First I've heard of it. In fact, I don't think I know of a
single banker in my lodge.... a couple of CPAs, but no bankers. Do you
suppose they are under cover?
|Hell, they were at the top
|of the pyramid from the beginning of most lodges after the masons
|screwed up and opened membership outside their guilds. Money took over.
Wow! As master I was responsible for auditing the books. You mean all
of those events we held to raise money for the Masonic Orphanage and
the Masonic Home were unnecessary?
|It still controls it. What if some "other entity" took control, say,
|for example, Zionists, which would explain why AIPAC has so much control
|over our government and its policies and its purse strings vis-a-vis
|Israel? They get into high places and tell the Freemason 32nd degree in
|the Oval Office he must obey his oath and attack Zionism's
|enemies...Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, other Arab states. Is it very
|important WE, the people who will pay the price for his treachery, know
|EXACTLY where his allegiance lies...to US or to THEM?
|
|But that basic question of who are YOU, a Freemason, loyal to, having
|taken that binding oath to follow the orders from above you in
|Freemasonry....first, ahead of everything else....that SHOULD preclude
|you from taking a solemn oath to hold office in any government level in
|America...or any other civilized country who forces its politicians to
|swear allegiance to the COUNTRY...ONLY.
No Freemason makes any sort of commitment that runs at cross purposes
to his family, his religion, or his country. I don't know who YOU are
following, but they certainly have no idea of what Freemasonry is
about.
|It's a clear conflict of
|interest...especially given Freemasonry's murderous history to those who
|violated their oath to it, once dragged into it.
I guess everybody knows that to be true, too?
|Tell me now how crazy I am.....I've listened to Freemasonry's attack
|before, even to my face by local politicians.
Oh..... bullshit.
|The Christians' Bible tells them not to take any oaths,
Not that is matters to me, but no, it doesn't.
--
Agent 5.00 Build 1159
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/
Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
I suppose if you like to believe in exotic cults, you'd buy into Larry's
view of Freemasonry. My father was part of Freemasonry and was a member
of Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, and I
suppose the brothers there overlooked his blue eyes, fair skin and blond
hair. :>)
He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)
As a member of the Freemasons, I am sure you are privy to all of the
secrets, wasn't Jack the Ripper a Freemason who was out to kill a woman
carrying the illegitimate child of a Royal Family Member? This is just
between us in rec.boats, so it won't get back to your lodge. ;)
|Gene Kearns wrote:
|> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:54:36 +0000, Larry penned the following well
|> considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|>
|
|As a member of the Freemasons, I am sure you are privy to all of the
|secrets, wasn't Jack the Ripper a Freemason who was out to kill a woman
|carrying the illegitimate child of a Royal Family Member? This is just
|between us in rec.boats, so it won't get back to your lodge. ;)
Yes, that is true.............................ly fiction!
Murder by Decree (1979) (The wife and I saw it.)
Sherlock Holmes, usually correct, makes really bizarre motions
purported to be some sort of Masonic signs. Maybe you've stumbled onto
something, though..... Larry, Sherlock, and the 7%
solution...............
|On Jul 24, 1:28 am, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
National Black Farmers Association?
Speaking of which, our corn is now close to 6' tall. Actually, "our" is
a bit of overspeak. It's the corn planted by the guy who rents our
field. I do, however, have table-picking rights. I should take a photo
or two, because right now the field is really pretty, if you are into
aggie subjects.
A good photographer can make a great photo with any subject. I am a
rookie, so I have not really been successful, but i would love to see
some of your work. I could learn a lot
I'll be glad to mail a couple of publications with my photos in them to
your home address.
Thanks
Please send them to:
RPS
PO Box 2192
Atlanta, GA 30324
I am sure others would enjoy your work, so you may also want to provide
a link for them.
Nice try, schitthead. Try reading for content:
"I'll be glad to mail a couple of publications with my photos in them
to your *home* address."
Dance, fat boy!!
You must be doing some serious watering. It is so dry here, the corn
is stunted and the leaves are rolled up.
No watering at all. We had a wet spring, and we've had decent and
sometimes heavy rainfalls every since. Everyone's plantings around here
look damned good, the best I've seen since moving to Maryland.
> No Freemason makes any sort of commitment that runs at cross purposes
> to his family, his religion, or his country. I don't know who YOU are
> following, but they certainly have no idea of what Freemasonry is
> about.
>
>
http://www.trosch.org/bks/blue_lodge.html
This is just one of over 318,000 websites Google found. I know nothing
about this nutcase and frankly I don't care, but I cannot fathom that all
318,000 websites about your oath are all a pack of liars and
schitzophrenics with an axe to grind against Freemasons if Freemasons are
totally innocent, as you infer.
So, you proclaim to your Freemasons across the world you never took any
kind of oath like this at any time in your Freemason history? Is that
correct? I'm not talking about the exact wording listed in this website.
I'm talking about ANY OATH OF ALLEGIANCE OR LOYALTY to Freemasonry over all
others, regardless of the exact wording.
Do you so proclaim?
Freemasonry sure has the Christians all stirred up and fighting mad.....One
cannot but wonder why. There aren't thousands of Christian webpages
against Elks, VFW Posts, American Legion, Order of the Moose or other odd
animal lodges full of drunks trying to stay away from their dominant wives.
Why is that? Why is it FREEMASONRY they are so adamantly after if nothing
is wrong?
We purchase our corn from a local farmer who runs a stand close to our
house. He lost 20 acres of corn this Spring due to the heavy rains.
Other than that his other 100 acres are producing some sweet, juicy
and tasty corn. Nothing like locally grown produce.
> Oh..... bullshit.
>
>
http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/oldnews5/whyileftfreemas
onry.htm
Is this bullshit, too?
http://www.religion-cults.com/Secret/Freemasonry/freemas2.html
and this?
http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/netmason.html
and how about the Catholics?
http://www.catholicculture.org/library/view.cfm?recnum=1243
and all this is wrong, too?
http://members.aol.com/mason24a/words.htm
I can't believe all these people are a pack of liars and malcontents. I
CAN believe they have some important information I need to know about the
CULTS my President, with his FINGER ON THAT BUTTON, belongs to and
worships....above all others.....
If you're in to supporting liberal organizations, join them. I lasted a
couple years before I couldn't take it any more.
Any motel will give you the AARP discount just by asking about it. You'll
never have to say you're a member. (Assuming you look at least 50!)
The guy who runs AARP used to work for Nixon's re-election committee,
dumbass.
Larry, I'm one of 'the Christians', and I'm not stirred up in the least
over Freemasonry.
But, I am wondering how big a generator I should get for my new travel
trailer.
>
>If you're in to supporting liberal organizations, join them. I lasted a
>couple years before I couldn't take it any more.
>
>Any motel will give you the AARP discount just by asking about it. You'll
>never have to say you're a member. (Assuming you look at least 50!)
Yeah, that's why I haven't joined. One time I was walking away from
the clerk because I didn't like the price, and she called after me,
"Do you work for a corporation?"
"Nope."
"Did you ever work for a corporation?"
"Yep."
"Well, then, blah, blah..."
--Vic
Whoa there Larry. We joined because of the pool, not the bar... <g>
--Mike
"Larry" <no...@home.com> wrote in message
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WAFA's certainly got some time on his hands now.
WAFA has turned to stalking. What next?
How much current do you need? The Honda's are nice and quiet and sip gas.
> But, I am wondering how big a generator I should get for my new travel
> trailer.
>
>
How many air conditioner units does it have and how big a battery
charger?
If I didn't already have a Honda EU3000i electronic generator powering
my mobile lab, I'd get the EU6500i like this one....:
http://www.hayesequipment.com/eu6500is.htm
Hayes even has a WIRELESS remote starting kit for it that looks like
your car unlock keyfob with automatic choke. Just press the button
before you crawl out of bed and let the coach heat or cool off before
your shower.
Mine is mounted on the back of a stepvan on two 1000 lb angle brackets
positioned to permanently bolt the support legs to. Then, a protective
cover that locks in the running position also swings down on hinges at
the outer edge of the angle brackets made of aluminum with a flat steel
frame for strength. The cover has a long slot cut in the side of it to
match the air/exhaust coming out the end of the genset. The entire
bottom of the mounting is wide open as these generators have intake air
channels built into their legs underneath. Cover closed the already
whisper quiet little 3KW genset is even quieter. Closed cell foam lines
the inside of the swing down weather cover, which lets me run the
genset, even on the road, in a heavy dounpour without getting it wet or
leaving the sun to bake it.
In a travel traler situation, towed with a pickup of choice, I'd leave
it in the pickup bed to run away from the trailer on a long tether.
With the Hayes wireless remote control, you can start it from quite a
ways away. You can't run it out of oil as it simply shuts down if the
oil is too low.
They're expensive, but once you own one and open it up to see how it's
made, it's totally worth every dollar. Unlike "normal" gensets, the
generator NEVER runs 3600 RPM! The EU3000i turns 1200 RPM up until
about 1800 watts of load (probably around 4KW on the 6500i). Then, the
onboard load computer slowly increases the crazy 6 phase alternator
built inside the engine flywheel like in an outboard motor, to increase
the speed the rare earth magnets, part of the price, pass the various
coils. This alternator is very high frequency, dependent on engine
speed. It's output is rectified into high DC voltage, which is fed to a
computer-controlled, 6.5KW solid state inverter made to run off this HV
DC. No matter what the mechanical alternator speed is, the output
frequency is EXACTLY 60 Hz at EXACTLY 120VAC, a synthesized sine wave so
smooth it's approved for running computers....all the way across the
load spectrum. The speed of the engine does NOT set the AC frequency,
at all....a great relief to longevity from engines always running 3600
RPM constantly. At 1200 RPM, it's loafing along half asleep.
The EU6500i isn't light, the reason for the little wheelbarrow to move
it. You'll need a ramp or two people can carry it off the truck.
Running in power outages at home, my neighbors are astonished to see my
lights burning in the pitch black with so little noise from the genset
mounted on the truck. It's a very pleasant hum at 1200 RPM....(c;
|Gene Kearns <gene.b...@myworkshop.idleplay.net> wrote in news:4888988d$0
|$10965$834e...@reader.greatnowhere.com:
|
|> No Freemason makes any sort of commitment that runs at cross purposes
|> to his family, his religion, or his country. I don't know who YOU are
|> following, but they certainly have no idea of what Freemasonry is
|> about.
|>
|>
|
|http://www.trosch.org/bks/blue_lodge.html
|
|This is just one of over 318,000 websites Google found. I know nothing
|about this nutcase and frankly I don't care, but I cannot fathom that all
|318,000 websites about your oath are all a pack of liars and
|schitzophrenics with an axe to grind against Freemasons if Freemasons are
|totally innocent, as you infer.
Then why, why, post this idiot's ramblings? According to him,
Freemasons are guilty of causing anything bad that ever happened
ever.... He's your source of truth? He claims to be a Catholic
Priest, yet claims the Vatican is run by Freemasons and Homosexuals?
Oh, good grief.....
|So, you proclaim to your Freemasons across the world you never took any
|kind of oath like this at any time in your Freemason history? Is that
|correct? I'm not talking about the exact wording listed in this website.
|I'm talking about ANY OATH OF ALLEGIANCE OR LOYALTY to Freemasonry over all
|others, regardless of the exact wording.
|
|Do you so proclaim?
Yes, I do so proclaim. There is nothing in Freemasonry that asks a
member to follow "them" over anybody else. Even if so, I would only
make a proclamation to the Grand Lodge of North Carolina. There is no
ruling body. There are 50 different Grand Lodges in the US.... more if
you count all of the Prince Hall Lodges.
||Freemasonry sure has the Christians all stirred up and fighting mad.....One
|cannot but wonder why. There aren't thousands of Christian webpages
|against Elks, VFW Posts, American Legion, Order of the Moose or ....
You need to google some more.
|Why is that? Why is it FREEMASONRY they are so adamantly after if nothing
|is wrong?
Your logic makes about as much sense as suggesting that we all ingest
feces because 100,000,000,000 flies can't be wrong.
Why is that? Because they have as twisted an understanding of this as
you do. Somebody told them what to believe and if God said it, they
believe it, and that's that. A quick google will prove that most, if
not all, of the Christian anti-whatever (Masonic, included) groups
have some form of non-profit status to allow the faithful to send
money. The one you posted certainly has a big blinking link begging
for money to fight the "Organization Formulated and Controlled by
AntiChrists." Think that has anything to do with it?
|>>There aren't thousands of Christian webpages
|against Elks, VFW Posts, American Legion, Order of the Moose or other odd
|animal lodges full of drunks trying to stay away from their dominant
|wives.<<
|
|Whoa there Larry. We joined because of the pool, not the bar... <g>
|
|--Mike
Hmmmmm..... we don't have a pool..... but the lodge is a block from
the ocean. Yeah, that's it! We joined because of the ocean....
http://www.elks.org/LODGES/home.cfm?LodgeNumber=2769
> Your logic makes about as much sense as suggesting that we all ingest
> feces because 100,000,000,000 flies can't be wrong.
Now, dammit, THATS funny!!!!!
Well, I'll give you that... your pool is much larger than ours <g>
http://www.elks.org/LODGES/home.cfm?LodgeNumber=522
--Mike
"Gene Kearns" <gene.b...@myworkshop.idleplay.net> wrote in message
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> There is no
> ruling body. There are 50 different Grand Lodges in the US.... more if
> you count all of the Prince Hall Lodges.
>
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread188251/pg1
I find it amazing the number of experts on the subject are all wrong....
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/
and all this is lies, deceit and outright SLANDER! All these books and
authors are SLANDERERS, too!
But wait.....Why?....Why???.....Why aren't they all being......SUED?
If it's slander and lies.....Why is it still on the net?
Why are these videos still being broadcast? They're all lies, too!
Everyone should go to jail!
If you haven't watched Zeitgeist, The Movie, watch it on YouTube or
Google Videos. There are several postings that make finding all of it a
confusing issue because YouTube's own "men behind the curtain" kept
trying to delete it, so the postings went berserk to keep it available.
Isn't it interesting that all these "men behind the curtain" in the part
of Zeitgeist about central banking are all Freemasons....the men behind
the curtain.
Another fantastic documentary available as a complete playlist on:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ouroboros712
is "The Greatest Story Ever Told". Humanity needs to watch it, too.
That fish on the back of people's cars and the cross on their church is
all Astrological nonsense. The cross isn't about Jesus. It's the Sign
of the Zodiac in shorthand. Take a look.
"The Christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin:
Both are derived from the worship of the Sun. The difference between
their origin is, that the Christian religion is a parody on the worship
of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place
of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to
the Sun."
-Thomas Paine
I'd say that for an atheist, you sure spend a lot of time studying religion.
Eisboch
> There is no
> ruling body. There are 50 different Grand Lodges in the US.... more if
> you count all of the Prince Hall Lodges.
>
Here's another very interesting video of lies and deceit....
The group dumbass jumps into an active thread with this completely
unrelated crap.
I have a brother who's an atheist. He spends an inordinate amount of time
arguing against something that doesn't, in his mind, exist.
Methinks the 'methinks thou dost...' line is very appropriate for many of
them.
The unit has one 13,500 btu air conditioner, a microwave, refrigerator
w/freezer, TV, stereo, water pump, lights, and the battery charger. I don't
know how many watts total, but tomorrow I'll get out each of the books and
let you know.
I was hoping I could get by with the Honda EU2000i, but I'm afraid I'll
have to go with the EU3000i. Of course, if someone who was considering the
EU6500ISA wanted to make me a tremendous deal (and quit preaching about the
Freemasons), I might consider it!
It may be close, even with the EU3000, if you try to run everything at once.
The Honda's have two ratings ... peak and continuous. The EU2000 will
deliver 2000 watts peak, but either 1600 or 1800 watts continuously. The
EU3000 will be rated similarly, proportional to 3000 watts peak.
The Sprinter has a small microwave, 13,500 btu A/C, small refrigerator and
a small inverter/converter for the TV/stereo and battery charger.
The little Onan 2.5 kw generator will run everything at once, but it knows
it has a load on it.
Eisboch
Boy you make me look smarter and smarter every day.
Guess I have to thank you for that.
Posters here with half a brain have seen Gene's and the dwarf Mikes'
pictures of their Elk Clubs.
Wake up before it's too late.
Calling Larry a "preacher," whether intentional or not, sort of shines
a light on things.
--Vic
> I was hoping I could get by with the Honda EU2000i, but I'm afraid
> I'll have to go with the EU3000i. Of course, if someone who was
> considering the EU6500ISA wanted to make me a tremendous deal (and
> quit preaching about the Freemasons), I might consider it!
>
>
You'll never power the camper AND that big AC with 3000i. It'll be a
constant overtrip condition every time the giant AC tries to crank its
compressor.
You're into 6KW class, minimum, with or without the crack about Freemasons
any my 1st Amendment rights.
I'm afraid the 3KW is going to be it. However, I could just make a rule to
stay where hookups are provided. Did you find yourself using the Onan much?
I may end up being a generator-less person. For the $2000 I'd spend on the
generator, I could spend a lot of nights with the additional hookup fees!
You misread my post. I am not able to affect your !st Amendment rights,
other than by voting. I provided a contingency clause to any buyout of an
old, beat up, 3KW generator, i.e., a great deal and a preaching cessation.
Very rarely. In fact, the only time I run it is to "exercise" it once in a
while. We used it once to make a pot of coffee while parked in a marina
parking lot where shore power was not available.
The EU3000 will be fine .... just don't try to run everything all at once.
It is rated at 2800 watts continuous which is about 23 anps. The A/C plus
a coffeemaker *or* the microwave should load it up pretty much. Electric
coffee makers draw anywhere from 7 to 10 amps. The microwave will vary
depending on it's wattage, but a small one still draws 8 amps or more. The
A/C unit is probably about 10-12 amps. These are off the top of my head
guesses, but they should be close. The rest of the stuff ... TV, refridge,
etc. only draw a couple of amps.
You probably have a water heater that can run on either propane or electric.
I prefer to run ours on propane. It's efficient and saves a few amps. Same
with the refrig. If no shore power is available and running on the
generator, switch it over to propane. It uses very little and saves another
amp or two. The refrig will run for a month or so on a typical camper
propane tank.
Eisboch
Herring is always ISO of the cheap way, and usually doesn't have enough
knowledge to even make that sort of decision properly. He put an anchor
line pulley on the bow of his boat and thinks he's going to be able to
use it to mount the anchor. He bought a new boat trailer without wheel
bearing lubes or protectors. He bought a new four stroke outboard and
then was asking which two stroke oil to use in it.
Stupid is as stupid does.
(Some RV questions)
BTW John,
If you plan to travel around to different campsites and or RV parks, I
recommend that you carry an inexpensive but accurate voltmeter with you and
check the voltage in one of your 120v outlets with the A/C on. Not all, but
some parks are notorious for having poor, outdated power service and the
voltage tends to droop when they get loaded.
If the voltage drops too much, it can damage your A/C compressor when it
tries to kick on.
When we had our house in Florida, the electrical power service was awful.
Voltage varied all over the place.
To make matters worse, I installed an underground, 30 amp electrical service
out to our RV that ran about 200 feet.
Even though I used a much heavier gauge wire (6 AWG) to compensate for the
run, the voltage at the camper would sometimes drop to 105 vac, sometimes
less when the A/C kicked on.
I purchased one of these to solve the problem and carried it with us in the
RV. If a park's electrical service was poor, I'd use it to keep the voltage
up at our site's service, protecting the A/C unit.
http://www.monstermarketplace.com/Automotive/Landing316a640.html
RV's and TT's are like boats. You simply can't spend enough money on them.
Eisboch
>
> Herring is always ISO of the cheap way, and usually doesn't have enough
> knowledge to even make that sort of decision properly. He put an anchor
> line pulley on the bow of his boat and thinks he's going to be able to use
> it to mount the anchor. He bought a new boat trailer without wheel bearing
> lubes or protectors. He bought a new four stroke outboard and then was
> asking which two stroke oil to use in it.
>
> Stupid is as stupid does.
>
Why are those comments necessary? I know I learned the right way to do a
lot of things in life by doing them wrong to begin with. At least he is
*doing* something.
You should consider taking up the guitar. You must have well developed
callous on your fingertips, considering the amount of time you spend typing
criticisms of everybody else and their interests.
Eisboch
Holy smokes! I will add the multi-meter to the tool kit!
I think I'll make it a habit to check on campgrounds 'over there' before I
go. Those folks seem to know a lot about everything! I was surprised at the
number of folks over there who had a military background and knew about all
the military campgrounds.
I'll be glad to take your advice under consideration as soon as you
offer it up to the Seven Dwarfs as frequently as it is offered to me.
:>)
The Dwarfs include Herring, Reggie, Loogy, DK, Florida Jim,
Mike/JustWait (alternates), et cetera.
I'm going fishing in about 45 minutes. That's certainly better than
reading posts here about everything except boats/boating/fishing.
He also needs to learn the difference between an anchor roller and an
anchor mount. On the Proline I installed an anchor mount. Worked well.
The two-stroke mistake was because someone else (Gene, I believe) misread a
question and started giving me advice about which two-stroke oil to use. He
realized his mistake and corrected it.
Harry remains quite upset that I don't find him worth of a response.
But I don't mind. He and JimH just keep trying. It's funny.
Here's gadget you guys might find handy.
It's great for checking power condition; voltage, current being drawn,
voltage frequency, true power, etc. It will even do a cumulative kwH
readout.
Of course it won't do power measurement for appliances that are hard wired,
but works great for any 120V device that plugs in.
I use whenever I get a new device to see exactly what's going on with power
consumption.
>
> Holy smokes! I will add the multi-meter to the tool kit!
>
> I think I'll make it a habit to check on campgrounds 'over there' before I
> go. Those folks seem to know a lot about everything! I was surprised at
> the
> number of folks over there who had a military background and knew about
> all
> the military campgrounds.
"Over there" has it's share of arrogant know-it-alls, but the majority are
civil, decent people who don't mind helping out a "newbie".
The few that like to strut their stuff are easily ignored.
Eisboch
> Eisboch wrote:
>>
>>
>> Why are those comments necessary? I know I learned the right way to do
>> a lot of things in life by doing them wrong to begin with. At least he
>> is *doing* something.
>>
>> You should consider taking up the guitar. You must have well developed
>> callous on your fingertips, considering the amount of time you spend
>> typing criticisms of everybody else and their interests.
>>
>> Eisboch
>>
>
> I'll be glad to take your advice under consideration as soon as you offer
> it up to the Seven Dwarfs as frequently as it is offered to me.
>
> :>)
So, who makes the first gesture?
>
> I'm going fishing in about 45 minutes. That's certainly better than
> reading posts here about everything except boats/boating/fishing.
Or cut and paste, left wing political articles.
Eisboch
Thanks for reminding me. I've wanted to get one of those for years but keep
forgetting.
I ordered it right away after reading your post.
They *are* handy for a number of uses, not just for RV's or boats.
Eisboch
Small world. Folks over in the 'other place' Eisboch and I were discussing
were offering the same advice about the same piece of equipment.
Thanks!
Well, it's not like that's a new experience!
Do they call them Harrys?
>
Tell you what, you get the Seven Dwarfs to behave reasonably here and
elsewhere, and I will follow their example. Good luck with them.
>> I'm going fishing in about 45 minutes. That's certainly better than
>> reading posts here about everything except boats/boating/fishing.
>
> Or cut and paste, left wing political articles.
>
> Eisboch
Of course. Got tipped off to "where the fish are" and zipped down to an
area called, of all things, Parker's Creek. No relation to Parker boats.
The blues were in 20-24 feet of water, biting on anything and
everything. A couple will be joining us for dinner tomorrow, after their
fillets soak overnight.
I was using surgical tubes and hooks, but it didn't seem to matter. The
blues were snapping at everything.
The first blue I ever caught ... or saw for that matter .... was in
Annapolis. I was using a fresh water rod, 12lb test line and a Rebel lure.
The blues were in one of those feeding frenzys and would hit a banana if you
threw it in.
I managed to land it with the Rebel halfway in his mouth. Not knowing
anything about blues, I reached down to get the lure out and the fish
clamped his jaws on it shattering it into pieces. That's how I learned
about blues.
Don't like eating them though.
As for your dwarfs: No thanks. I learned a long time ago that the best
place to start when trying to accomplish something is at the top.
Eisboch
> I managed to land it with the Rebel halfway in his mouth. Not knowing
> anything about blues, I reached down to get the lure out and the fish
> clamped his jaws on it shattering it into pieces. That's how I learned
> about blues.
You're lucky. That "it" could have been one or more of your fingers. ;-
( Still, on fresh water gear, that must have been one hell of a fight.
It was. It wasn't huge .... I think I remember measuring it at 28" long,
but it took me about half an hour to get it in.
I actually got two of them that day. I took them back to our apartment, all
proud of myself, and Mrs.E. almost fainted.
"Not to worry", I told her, then made a mess out of the kitchen trying to
clean and fillet the stupid things. I really had no idea what I was doing.
Someone told me to let the fillet soak overnight in the fridge in a pan of
water with salt, so I did. I didn't know what to do with the heads, so I
stuffed them into the garbage disposal and damn near burned the motor out.
Even after 20 minutes of grinding away, I'd turn it off, pull off the rubber
stopper, look inside and see an eyeball staring back at me.
It wasn't worth the effort.
Eisboch
Cleaning fish inside is a no-no.
--Vic
>>
> Cleaning fish inside is a no-no.
>
> --Vic
*Now* he tells me.
Where were you back in the 70's?
Eisboch
>
> I actually agree 100% with your post.
>
> Funny thing is, you actually believe that the lies and deceit depicted
> in the video are factual!
>
> Because you want to.
>
Gene, you are wasting your fingerprints.
The man's mind is made up.
Eisboch
>
> As for your dwarfs: No thanks. I learned a long time ago that the best
> place to start when trying to accomplish something is at the top.
>
> Eisboch
Methinks they should go into the resurrected bozo bin. I'll start with
the three turds in the fountain, loogy, florida jim, and herring, and
add reggie's latest IDs, DK, mike, et cetera after dinner.
You be sure to let me know if any of them ever post anything
*interesting* that is on topic.
>
> Or cut and paste, left wing political articles.
>
> Eisboch
>
>
Yes, I find endless threads about ordinary looking grandchildren, travel
trailers, child abuse, arranging golf dates, et cetera, far more
interesting and appropriate for a newsgroup named rec.boats. I'll bet
you do, too.
BTW, posting articles on economic news from mainstream media sources is
hardly left-wing.
Child Abuse: allowing children to race motorcycles.
Aint it? I'm proud to see my name mentioned in some of his dribble. That
means it's working. <LOL> He's too easy.
Damn... he sure posts alot in a place he keeps saying he's just watching. I
*do* love watching him dance though!
--Mike
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