This should drive the -everything liberal = bad- crowd insane!
Loogypicker
nom=de=plume
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> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:31:03 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
> <loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_eu/eu_kosovo_bill_clinton
>
> Unfortunate pose, how long will it take to see a little mustache on
> that statue
Nope... that's the other hand.
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H the K
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:31:03 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
> <loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_eu/eu_kosovo_bill_clinton
>
> Unfortunate pose, how long will it take to see a little mustache on
> that statue
It doesn't matter. President Bill's leadership led to something positive
and long-lasting in Kosovo, and the majority of people in that country
know it and appreciate it.
Tosk
15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, loogy...@gmail.com says...
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_eu/eu_kosovo_bill_clinton
Why, he did a lot there for those people.. But of course, even if we say
something good about ad Dem, you won't aknowledge or admint it...
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jps
>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:31:03 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
><loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_eu/eu_kosovo_bill_clinton
>
>Unfortunate pose, how long will it take to see a little mustache on
>that statue
Agreed but wrong arm.
This is much more acurate:
JohnH
<loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_eu/eu_kosovo_bill_clinton
Why? Clinton helped out the ethnic Albanians, just like Bush helped
out the Iraqis being slaughtered by Hussein (Sadam, not Barak).
Good things should not go unrewarded.
nom=de=plume
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Bush the First lied to the Shites and 1000s of them died. Bush the Second
lied to the American people, and 1000s of them died (not to mention the
100K+ Iraqi civilians).
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Lu Powell
It's now Obama's war: "Some 1,000 American soldiers are still based in
Kosovo as part of NATO's 14,000-strong peacekeeping force." - quoted from
the Yahoo post.
Tosk
The minority media has no problem with that as it was one of them that
put them there... For the record, I have no problem with it either no
matter who put them there. We spend our blood, we have a duty to follow
through and help these countries rebuild and grow. We have done it for
decades. Like I asked before, someone tell me the country we went to war
with that we didn't rebuild with our blood and sweat, only to return to
the people of that country... I won't hold my breath.
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Loogypicker
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:31:03 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_eu/eu_kosovo_bill_clinton
>
> Why? Clinton helped out the ethnic Albanians, just like Bush helped
> out the Iraqis being slaughtered by Hussein (Sadam, not Barak).
>
> Good things should not go unrewarded.
Hey, John, I must have missed your apology where you accused me of
making things up about you and then I posted exactly what you had
said! On a lighter note, how's your daughter doing now?
H the K
Like I asked before, someone tell me the country we went to war
> with that we didn't rebuild with our blood and sweat, only to return to
> the people of that country... I won't hold my breath.
I wouldn't want the stench of your breath in my body, either, but, to
respond to your ignorant post...
"...someone tell me the country we went to war
with that we didn't rebuild with our blood and sweat, only to return to
the people of that country..."
Mexico. 1846-1848.
North Korea. 1950-1953.
North Vietnam. 1959 to 1975.
I'll bet this is your family song:
Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about a science book
Don't know much about the french I took
...
Don't know much about geography
Don't know much trigonometry
Don't know much about algebra
Don't know what a slide rule is for
Moron.
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North Korea, North Vietnam.
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> On 11/3/09 10:14 AM, Tosk wrote:
> Like I asked before, someone tell me the country we went to war
>> with that we didn't rebuild with our blood and sweat, only to return to
>> the people of that country... I won't hold my breath.
>
>
> I wouldn't want the stench of your breath in my body, either, but, to
> respond to your ignorant post...
>
> "...someone tell me the country we went to war
> with that we didn't rebuild with our blood and sweat, only to return to
> the people of that country..."
>
> Mexico. 1846-1848.
>
> North Korea. 1950-1953.
>
> North Vietnam. 1959 to 1975.
Forgot about Mexico.
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H the K
Had tosk gone to high school and taken U.S. history, he might not have
made the idiotic comment he did.
Bill McKee
"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
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Korea is an ongoing war. And we have done well sending business to Viet
Nam.
Bill McKee
You seem to be a little lacking also.
North Korea 1950-2009 and no end in sight.
H the K
There's an armistice in place in re: the Koreas. There is no ongoing
shooting war there resulting in deaths or serious injuries to thousands
of soldiers or civilians or both.
We did not help rebuild North Korea. Eventually, the two Koreas may
reunite. If that happens, we can help the emergent Korea rebuild the north.
North Korea "qualifies," as do Mexico and North Vietnam. Tosk is an
uneducated moron. That you are defending him for his stupidity and
ignorance speaks volumes about you.
Don White
<gfre...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
Or the British re War of 1812. Canada wasn't a country until 1867
H the K
I wonder if Tusky Ingersoll is a native of Connecticut or if not a
product of its public school systems. I managed to get a pretty good
public school education when I lived up there. I'd hate to think the
schools there are now so far down the drain that they produce
ignoramuses like Scott.
nom=de=plume
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> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:10:33 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
That's certainly an interesting point. In most respects we screwed over the
native people.
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Technically, yes it's an unended war, but practically it's over.
We've done well, but Vietnam hasn't done that well, which was the point of
his comment.
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John H.
I responded to you on that first issue. Perhaps you missed it.
My daughter is out of the hospital, but continues to have a low grade
infection. It's being treated, but is very persistent.
If things don't get better, then the breast implants will have to be
removed, and she'll have to wait about six months for everything to
clear up. If that happens, she's about made her mind to spend the rest
of her life 'flat chested'. I don't blame her.
Tosk
gfre...@aol.com says...
>
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:10:33 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
Guess I meant to ask, what countries did we not leave to the people..
Korea and N. Vietnam still got help from us, directly or otherwise...
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Tosk
bmckee...@ix.netcom.com says...
Exactly...
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Tosk
bmckee...@ix.netcom.com says...
Harry is just trolling, changing the bar or just removing it is he
forte'... My point stands, we don't take from anybody, we only give...
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Tosk
removeths...@gmail.com says...
I am sure the folks who love her could care less if she has boobs or
not... as long as she has a great as.... Just kidding, prayers are with
her...
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H the K
You aren't capable of backpedaling yourself out of your own stupidity.
Jim
Bill McKee
Actually up to a few years ago, maybe still, there was nightly shooting at
the DMZ.
Bill McKee
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> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:40:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
>>We've done well, but Vietnam hasn't done that well, which was the point of
>>his comment.
>
> lately? China is complaining that Vietnam is stealing their jobs.
Vietnamese friend and coworker at a semiconductor maker went over there with
said company about setting up factories. They seem to be doing well.
Tosk
gfre...@aol.com says...
>
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:40:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
> >his comment.
>
> lately? China is complaining that Vietnam is stealing their jobs.
Of course plume is about as sharp and honest as Harry and JPS, Donnie,
etc... The point of my post was that we do not occupy and steal... We
only help and eventually return the country to the people.. Sorry if
that was over the pink army heads...
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nom=de=plume
> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
>>his comment.
>
> lately? China is complaining that Vietnam is stealing their jobs.
We should lose more often. The mouse that roared!!
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nom=de=plume
Despite the communist gov't. I'm shocked. Shocked!
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nom=de=plume
Seems that you're in competition with a couple of others for disenginuity.
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Tosk
says...
Yeah, my mom built the school system in my hometown. Unlike Harry, my
system was voted best school system in the country two years while I was
there, Manchester, a town over took it one year in between... I forget
which publication rated them, it was a long time ago.
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Bill McKee
"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
Different commies.
Don White
"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
Snotty has that doo-rag wrapped too tight.
Tosk
bmckee...@ix.netcom.com says...
Still dealing' with the Plum I see, hasn't she proven at least as
intellectually dishonest as JPS, Harry, and the rest of the pink army
yet??
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nom=de=plume
Different? than Obama I suppose.
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nom=de=plume
You seem very concerned about it...
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> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:15:00 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>> Vietnam seems to be doing fine. Have you been furniture shopping
>>>> lately? China is complaining that Vietnam is stealing their jobs.
>>>
>>> Vietnamese friend and coworker at a semiconductor maker went over there
>>> with said company about setting up factories. They seem to be doing
>>> well.
>>
>>Despite the communist gov't. I'm shocked. Shocked!
>
> governments too. Cuba is the only truly communist country left as far
> as I can tell and that is an artificial circumstance brought on by our
> embargo.
> It is ironic that if we were not "fighting communism" in this
> hemisphere there wouldn't be any.
>
Well, I guess we're all doomed to capitalism then.
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Jim
puberty thinks her sole mission in life is to indoctrinate hard working
patriotic Americans into her one world socialistic mind set. We already
have generation 1 and 2 pansies and cowards thrilling us with their
philosophy. And now this pimple faced kid is musseling in on their
action. God help us all.
Jim
hereditary and further reinforced by colleges and universities who
contaminate your minds and roll you out into the streets like chicklets
coming off the assembly line.
As Ernestine would say,
"And that's the truth"
Jim
Jim
such fond memories of.
H the K
Listen up...don't use big, multisyllabic words when in discussion with
Tuskie. :)
H the K
Apparently neither of you comprehend that I was in high school in New
Haven a long, long time ago, when the public schools there were first-rate.
Oh...if your school system was so good, Ingersoll, why are you
so...ignorant?
Jim
> Apparently neither of you comprehend that I was in high school in New
> Haven a long, long time ago, when the public schools there were first-rate.
>
Interesting how New Haven schools went from, your claim of first rate to
shamefully sub standard.
Care to comment on how that happened?
I suspect that the failure of your boat dealership had something to do
with the economic down turn and social decline of the region.
Come on. Let's here your version of the story.
BAR
says...
It could be the same problem with Montgomery County Maryland public
schools. In 10 or 15 years the Montgomery County Maryland public school
system will be just another of the thousands of school systems rather
than one of the top 3 in the country that they used to be 5 or 10 years
ago. It has to do with the policies of the Montgomery County Government.
I'll leave it to you to figure it out why.
H the K
I haven't paid any serious attention to new haven since I left the home
of my parents to go to college. In the last 30 years, I've been back
there only a couple of times to catch up with old friends. The house my
parents owned still looks good, as does the neighborhood. I know,
because one of my buddies still lives in the immediate area, and I
visit him from time to time. The commercial area in which our strip mall
is located actually looks better over time, as do some of my old
summertime "beach 'burb" haunts in milford and branford. I've never
regretted closing down the family boat business after my father died.
I was in montgomery county a few months ago, specifically rockville. I
loved all the new shopping areas and restaurants, but the traffic
congestion on rockville pike was heavier than I would tolerate if I
lived in that area.
Jim
NotNow
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:20:38 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
> <loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 2, 3:18 pm, JohnH <removethissalmonb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:31:03 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
>>>
>>> <loogypic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_eu/eu_kosovo_bill_clinton
>>> Why? Clinton helped out the ethnic Albanians, just like Bush helped
>>> out the Iraqis being slaughtered by Hussein (Sadam, not Barak).
>>>
>>> Good things should not go unrewarded.
>> Hey, John, I must have missed your apology where you accused me of
>> making things up about you and then I posted exactly what you had
>> said! On a lighter note, how's your daughter doing now?
>
> I responded to you on that first issue. Perhaps you missed it.
>
> My daughter is out of the hospital, but continues to have a low grade
> infection. It's being treated, but is very persistent.
>
> If things don't get better, then the breast implants will have to be
> removed, and she'll have to wait about six months for everything to
> clear up. If that happens, she's about made her mind to spend the rest
> of her life 'flat chested'. I don't blame her.
Man, that's too bad. So they think the implants are causing the
infection, I take it? Maybe her body just can't tolerate them, that's a
shame, but if the only resolution is to not have implants, I wouldn't
blame her either.
John H.
<bmckee...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
>news:hcprms$tt0$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "H the K" <naled...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>> news:7lb0c6F...@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 11/3/09 10:14 AM, Tosk wrote:
>>> Like I asked before, someone tell me the country we went to war
>>>> with that we didn't rebuild with our blood and sweat, only to return to
>>>> the people of that country... I won't hold my breath.
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't want the stench of your breath in my body, either, but, to
>>> respond to your ignorant post...
>>>
>>> "...someone tell me the country we went to war
>>> with that we didn't rebuild with our blood and sweat, only to return to
>>> the people of that country..."
>>>
>>> Mexico. 1846-1848.
>>>
>>> North Korea. 1950-1953.
>>>
>>> North Vietnam. 1959 to 1975.
>>
>>
>> Forgot about Mexico.
>>
>> --
>> Nom=de=Plume
>>
>
>Korea is an ongoing war. And we have done well sending business to Viet
>Nam.
>
How much aid have we sent Mexico? The problem with socialist countries
is that aid goes into the pockets of the rulers.
Just like the carbon credits money is doing here.
John H.
<justwaitaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <rec1f5p59fkvqv9oi...@4ax.com>,
>removeths...@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:20:38 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
>> <loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Nov 2, 3:18�pm, JohnH <removethissalmonb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:31:03 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
>> >>
>> >> <loogypic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_eu/eu_kosovo_bill_clinton
>> >>
>> >> Why? Clinton helped out the ethnic Albanians, just like Bush helped
>> >> out the Iraqis being slaughtered by Hussein (Sadam, not Barak).
>> >>
>> >> Good things should not go unrewarded.
>> >
>> >Hey, John, I must have missed your apology where you accused me of
>> >making things up about you and then I posted exactly what you had
>> >said! On a lighter note, how's your daughter doing now?
>>
>> I responded to you on that first issue. Perhaps you missed it.
>>
>> My daughter is out of the hospital, but continues to have a low grade
>> infection. It's being treated, but is very persistent.
>>
>> If things don't get better, then the breast implants will have to be
>> removed, and she'll have to wait about six months for everything to
>> clear up. If that happens, she's about made her mind to spend the rest
>> of her life 'flat chested'. I don't blame her.
>
>I am sure the folks who love her could care less if she has boobs or
>not... as long as she has a great as.... Just kidding, prayers are with
>her...
She has a *great* ass. But, she calls him, "Dad."
Tosk
LOL... glad you took it in the spirit I intended... A couple of weeks
ago at one of the races, a woman who was running things got up and spoke
for a few, asking us to pre-register for the next even so she wouldn't
have to be outside so much, he blood count is only about 1000 and she
was not even supposed to be there. She noted that it came quick and she
had both removed over the summer so she had fake boobs, then she took
off her hat and suggested we all shave our heads in solidarity;) I spoke
with he later and told her, not unless you need it for a wig. These
women have such strong spirits and a good humor about things, it's
amazing... God bless them all, they are in inspiration.
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Harry, where exactly is this strip mall and marina?
Tosk
@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, loogy...@gmail.com says...
In his fantasy...
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John H.
You must be giving her picture posting a lot of credence. I'm thinking
she's more like Harry. Probably borrowed the picture like Harry did
with the cute thing he posted.
John H.
That's what it seems like.
H the K
> In article<85aa5450-0b5b-4771-94ce-5305f1b98866
> @v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, loogy...@gmail.com says...
>>
The strip mall is on the main drag in a suburb of New Haven. I'm one of
three partners in the mall, the other two being our long-time family
lawyer and our long-time family accountant, both of whom are high school
days buddies of mine.
The marina is long gone...it was developed as residential property,
though there are some docks for the condo owners.
Jim
gender is more of a problem. It could be either a homely girl or a
effeminate looking boy. I'm guessing the age to be 17 to 21. What do you
think?
You are probably right about it being a fake though. Who would post a
before picture of them self without also posting the after shot.
John H.
I'm guessing you've got the age right. Boy or girl? Hard to tell.
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Liberal = Bad
I agree. John H
Stevie
> "nom=de=plume"<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
>> "Tosk"<justwaitaf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.255ac61bd...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> In article<l0o1f55voqseb4ujo...@4ax.com>,
>>> gfre...@aol.com says...
>>>>
>>>> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We've done well, but Vietnam hasn't done that well, which was the point
>>>>> of
>>>>> his comment.
>>>>
>>>> Vietnam seems to be doing fine. Have you been furniture shopping
>>>> lately? China is complaining that Vietnam is stealing their jobs.
>>>
>>> etc... The point of my post was that we do not occupy and steal... We
>>> only help and eventually return the country to the people.. Sorry if
>>> that was over the pink army heads...
>>
>>
>> Seems that you're in competition with a couple of others for disenginuity.
>>
>> Nom=de=Plume
>
> Snotty has that doo-rag wrapped too tight.
>
>
How topical!
-S
Bill McKee
"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
You calling Obama a communist?
Don White
"Stevie" <St...@gmail16.com> wrote in message
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You smell a lot like a recent escapee from a septic tank.
>
nom=de=plume
I? Hardly. That would be the right-wingers.
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news:n3l4f5t6o0kn385rb...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:05:17 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>> Vietnamese friend and coworker at a semiconductor maker went over
>>>>> there
>>>>> with said company about setting up factories. They seem to be doing
>>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>>Despite the communist gov't. I'm shocked. Shocked!
>>>
>>> governments too. Cuba is the only truly communist country left as far
>>> as I can tell and that is an artificial circumstance brought on by our
>>> embargo.
>>> It is ironic that if we were not "fighting communism" in this
>>> hemisphere there wouldn't be any.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Well, I guess we're all doomed to capitalism then.
>
> by the Soviets and we were fighting anyone the Soviets supported.
> Once we got in there the war took on a life of it;s own ... much like
> Afghanistan. We just stayed because we didn't want to "Lose"
> ("peace with honor" and all that crap).
> As soon as we got out of there, they immediately started building a
> capitalist society.
>
> Cuba is trying to build a capitalist society as we speak. If we would
> let them, they would be competing with Florida for US tourist dollars
> in the morning. Then would Steve Wynn and Bill Marriott be far behind?
> We could trash that island in 10 years.
>
VN is a communist country. No communist country (except perhaps North Korea)
is a pure society.
Castro merged his revolutionary organization with the communist party.
Again, not a pure state.
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Tosk
St...@gmail16.com says...
Sounds like Harry has been watching MTV again, maybe I was wrong
thinking he got his news from Jon Stewart...
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> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:42:36 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
>>VN is a communist country.
>
> The way I understand it there is a vibrant free market in Vietnam and
> if the government tried to stop that, they would have another
> revolution. Hopefully we wouldn't go to that one.
I think it's a hybrid, but that's certainly true of China also. Again, it's
pure like NK and the "others."
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> is taking care of the proletariat with the fruits of production. Cuba
> is really the only functioning communist country in the world
VN was never really communist. They sided with the Red Chinese, because we
would not support those who wanted their country back. Truman screwed up
big time letting France back into their colonies after WW2.
thunder
> VN was never really communist. They sided with the Red Chinese, because
> we would not support those who wanted their country back. Truman
> screwed up big time letting France back into their colonies after WW2.
Vietnam may not have been communist, but Ho Chi Minh certainly was, but
he was also a pragmatist. He made deals with the Chinese Nationalists
(Chiang Kai Shek), and later with the French, to achieve Vietnamese
autonomy. Both parties screwed him over, and the rest is history. You
are right, we never should have backed French imperialism.
nom=de=plume
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H the K
No doubt. We actually have posters here who are proud of their efforts
to kill Vietnamese, as if we had some divine right to do so. What we
should have done after WW II was help the Vietnamese throw off the yoke
of French imperialism.
Stevie
You weren't invited to this party.
-S
nom=de=plume
hee
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"H the K" <groun...@snerkville.com> wrote in message
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We did not need to help them throw off the yoke. It was gone in 1945. But
Truman let France have back all their colonies.
nom=de=plume
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> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:01:05 -0500, H the K
> <groun...@snerkville.com> wrote:
>
>>What we
>>should have done after WW II was help the Vietnamese throw off the yoke
>>of French imperialism.
>
> throwing off the yoke of the French all by themselves.
>
Hard to argue with that! But, the domino theory was in full steam ahead
mode.
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> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:01:05 -0500, H the K
> <groun...@snerkville.com> wrote:
>
>>should have done after WW II was help the Vietnamese throw off the yoke
>>of French imperialism.
>
> throwing off the yoke of the French all by themselves.
>
the problem was the Frenchies should have not had it back. And we cost the
Vietnamese a lot in the fight against the French. We were supplying the
munitions. De Gulle, who is not one of the admired by me, at least told Ike
to stay out after the fall of the French. Ike did not listen.
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> in Iran, Indonesia and Guatemala. JFK was probably thinking along the
> same lines until he got spanked in Cuba and then we got that cowboy
> Johnson who wanted a war
I don't really think LBJ wanted a war. I think he was sucked into it by the
allure of the anti-communism tone, and then later by the generals. He was
terribly troubled by the toll it was taking on our soldiers, but didn't do
enough to bring it to an end.
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LBJ cause a huge toll on our soldiers. Him and his defense secretary
micromanaging.
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He and his defense secretary... whatever. Yes, but the biggest toll was
continually escalating.
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H the K
Especially in a war in countries where there was no reason for us to be
out there killing.
That part of it -the killing- probably turned on losers like herring and
flajim.
BAR
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LBJ suffered from inflated ego and hubris.
McNamara thought he could conduct a war with a calculator.
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No argument there...
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Plus he made millions from the war. Lady Birds investments did well. LBJ
was near bankrupt when he took over as President and left 4 years later with
$4 million net worth. When a million was a lot.