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Mary Merwin & Bob Cross

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Much better prices elsewhere

"Russ Glindmeier, CFP" wrote:
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> Coming soon, if not already, to a mailbox in your neighborhood. Gentlemen,
> start your VISAs.
>
> Russ

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Jerry Hahn

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Not me. I'm thinking home equity loan.
Jerry

Russ Glindmeier, CFP

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Craig A

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What other catalogs do you suggest?

Craig

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> Much better prices elsewhere
>
> "Russ Glindmeier, CFP" wrote:
> >

Russ Glindmeier, CFP

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Craig A wrote in message <2S1t4.1182$w81.1...@typhoon.austin.rr.com>...

>What other catalogs do you suggest?
>


Ya know, I've been trying for hours to telepathically receive the intended
benefit of Mary & Bob's most helpful post. Perhaps if I put my forehead up
to the monitor.......

Russ

kingfish

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Struggling with that one too, Russ-
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Peter Kennedy

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There are a number of good sources on line for marine electrical and
electronic equipment that could compete with the big guys like West in
service and price.

Peter Kennedy
Peter Kennedy Yacht Services
Marine Electrical Systems
http://www.pkys.com


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fishwisher

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Peter Kennedy <pk...@annap.infi.net> wrote in message
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> There are a number of good sources on line for marine electrical and
> electronic equipment that could compete with the big guys like West in
> service and price.
> Peter Kennedy
>
BUT, when I *walk* into my local West Marine, I can see and touch what I
want to buy, I can ask questions of live people and I can take it home that
day. And, I can return it same day if I need to. Online and catalog sales
cannot match that service.
And, I have the added bonus of visiting my long gone money when I walk into
the West Marine store.
>--
Dale Gillespie
Boating and fishing the Californiadelta(.org)

Rick

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"Russ Glindmeier, CFP" <ru...@att.net> wrote in message
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> Coming soon, if not already, to a mailbox in your neighborhood.
Gentlemen,
> start your VISAs.
>
> Russ
>

Funny how much we look forward to receiving it. Got mine (Canada) on Tuesday
and am enjoying going over it page by page.

Rick

George Jefferson

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:There are a number of good sources on line for marine electrical and

:electronic equipment that could compete with the big guys like West in
:service and price.

Its quite a leap from "could compete if you care about service" to
"much better prices"

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jnb...@yahoo.com

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Mr. Kennedy,
You are so right. I suggest getting those catalogs (West and Boat US)
and then if you need something from it go to Yahoo! Shopping or Alta
Vista Shopping and enter the product name and/or number in there. You'd
be surprised at the prices, plus no sales tax. Besides Boat US is the
biggest rip-off going (See my bitch on them in earlier posts).
Joe


> There are a number of good sources on line for marine electrical and
> electronic equipment that could compete with the big guys like West in
> service and price.
>

> Peter Kennedy
> Peter Kennedy Yacht Services
> Marine Electrical Systems
> http://www.pkys.com

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Mary Merwin & Bob Cross

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Defender for one would be a good start ;then warm up your search
engines...some really good buys off the internet

Craig A wrote:
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> What other catalogs do you suggest?
>

> Craig
>
> "Mary Merwin & Bob Cross" <capt...@gate.net> wrote in message
> news:38B48B95...@gate.net...
> > Much better prices elsewhere
> >
> > "Russ Glindmeier, CFP" wrote:
> > >

> > > Coming soon, if not already, to a mailbox in your neighborhood.
> Gentlemen,
> > > start your VISAs.
> > >
> > > Russ
> >

Mary Merwin & Bob Cross

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maybe if you would turn the monitor off for awhile and do some
comparative shopping you'd get the message.. You suggested West Marine,
no problem there, I suggested you could save money shopping elsewhere.
Take your choice it's your money..but Russ don't be so thin skinned I
wasn't attacking you for your post...relax

"Russ Glindmeier, CFP" wrote:
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> Craig A wrote in message <2S1t4.1182$w81.1...@typhoon.austin.rr.com>...

> >What other catalogs do you suggest?
> >
>

> Ya know, I've been trying for hours to telepathically receive the intended
> benefit of Mary & Bob's most helpful post. Perhaps if I put my forehead up
> to the monitor.......
>

Jack Redington

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I use Defender once and will not again. They sent me the wrong item
(they did not even sell what they sent me, I guess it was laying around
and just shipped it) And it was a pain to get it correct plus ended up
costing me shipping to return it, plus about five phone calls to state
the same thing over and over.. That was my one and only experience with
them.

Capt Jack r.

Mary Merwin & Bob Cross wrote:
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> Defender for one would be a good start ;then warm up your search
> engines...some really good buys off the internet
>
> Craig A wrote:
> >

> > What other catalogs do you suggest?
> >

> > Craig
> >
> > "Mary Merwin & Bob Cross" <capt...@gate.net> wrote in message
> > news:38B48B95...@gate.net...
> > > Much better prices elsewhere
> > >
> > > "Russ Glindmeier, CFP" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Coming soon, if not already, to a mailbox in your neighborhood.
> > Gentlemen,
> > > > start your VISAs.
> > > >

Russ Glindmeier, CFP

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Jack Redington wrote in message <38B59F46...@mindspring.com>...

>I use Defender once and will not again. They sent me the wrong item
>(they did not even sell what they sent me, I guess it was laying around
>and just shipped it) And it was a pain to get it correct plus ended up
>costing me shipping to return it, plus about five phone calls to state
>the same thing over and over.. That was my one and only experience with
>them.
>
>Capt Jack r.
>


I've also read stories about Defender not having product in stock, promising
to have it available for shipment by a certain date, and then ultimately not
meeting the promised shipping date. I won't say that West never botched an
order of mine, but when it has happened they bent over backwards to fix it
and compensated by shipping the replacement overnight and offering account
credits toward future purchases. Plus, I find thumbing through a 500+ page
full color catalog (that they automatically mail me at their expense) much
more convenient than navigating through an on-line catalog. If I'm in a
real hurry, I can find the item in the catalog, call the store here in town
to see if they've got it in stock, and drive down and pick it up if they do.
They've earned my business through superior service, and I would expect them
to be within 5-10% of of anybody else's price on a given item, hardly enough
differential to warrant cutting them off at the knees after they've proven
time and time again that they are a valued resource to me. Value comes in
many other forms than price alone.

Russ

Marcus G Bell

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Russ Glindmeier, CFP (ru...@att.net) wrote:

> Plus, I find thumbing through a 500+ page full color catalog
> (that they automatically mail me at their expense) much more
> convenient than navigating through an on-line catalog.

Kind of tough to drag the 'puter to the head whenever it's time to
do some "shopping".

-- -- Marcus. ( be...@mail.med.upenn.edu )

Russ Glindmeier, CFP

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Marcus G Bell wrote in message <894cg4$s6a$1...@netnews.upenn.edu>...

>Russ Glindmeier, CFP (ru...@att.net) wrote:
>
>> Plus, I find thumbing through a 500+ page full color catalog
>> (that they automatically mail me at their expense) much more
>> convenient than navigating through an on-line catalog.
>
>Kind of tough to drag the 'puter to the head whenever it's time to
>do some "shopping".
>


Spoken by one who obviously understands the situation in its entirety.

Russ

Jerry Hahn

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You would think that they would carry the padded seat for our comfort while
making a shopping list.
Jerry


> Kind of tough to drag the 'puter to the head whenever it's time to
> do some "shopping".
>

-- Mike --

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On 24 Feb 2000 22:48:36 GMT, be...@mail.med.upenn.edu (Marcus G Bell)
wrote:

>Kind of tough to drag the 'puter to the head whenever it's time to
>do some "shopping".
>
>-- -- Marcus. ( be...@mail.med.upenn.edu )

hmm... I think you just explained the *real* reason behind high
laptop sales.

Mike


KaptainBob

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I have found that Boat/US offers some good prices in their catalog as well]

bob

Steven Shelikoff

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Lee Lindquist wrote:

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> On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:14:46 -0500, Jack Redington
> <capt...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >I use Defender once and will not again. They sent me the wrong item
> >(they did not even sell what they sent me, I guess it was laying around
>
> I've ordered from Defender a couple times, with
> good luck. I like them, as they have no presence
> in my state of residence, so I don't have to pay
> sales tax on purchases. They sure made it difficult
> for me, though. After ordering $300 worth of stuff
> from them, no amount of begging would get me
> a catalog. (And I've been married long enough
> to KNOW how to beg.) They'd just send goofy
> flyers. I finally got a catalog at a boat show.

I just filled in the catalog request form on their web page and they
sent one to me. I haven't ordered from them yet but will probably order
a wheel autopilot from them. On that item, they are around 8% cheaper
then West Marine, 14% when you add in the sales tax.

Steve

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Jeff C

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:41:46 -0500, Steven Shelikoff
<shel...@averstar.com> wrote:


>
>I just filled in the catalog request form on their web page and they
>sent one to me. I haven't ordered from them yet but will probably order
>a wheel autopilot from them. On that item, they are around 8% cheaper
>then West Marine, 14% when you add in the sales tax.
>

I think West matches prices. You could probably bring in the price to
your local West store and pick up the item at the lower price. It may
work out to your benefit, depending on shipping costs. If it is close
to a wash, I'd buy local.

--
Jeff C

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Remove the "carrot" to reply.

Skipper

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Steven Shelikoff wrote:

> Lee Lindquist wrote:

>> I've ordered from Defender a couple times, with
>> good luck. I like them, as they have no presence
>> in my state of residence, so I don't have to pay
>> sales tax on purchases.

> I just filled in the catalog request form on their web page and they


> sent one to me. I haven't ordered from them yet but will probably order
> a wheel autopilot from them. On that item, they are around 8% cheaper
> then West Marine, 14% when you add in the sales tax.

Defender does seem to have the best prices. I've used them several times
without a problem. I once ordered an item from them that had a model
upgrade a few weeks after my order. They took the item back and shipped
the new model. No restocking charge and *they* paid shipping for the
replacement. I've heard others have had some problems but I think
they're first rate in customer support.

That said, the West Marine catalog is a far better source for good
boating information and advice than our resident self-proclaimed boating
expert. For that reason alone, they are worth supporting.

--
Skipper

Steven Shelikoff

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There's a West Marine store about a mile down the road from my marina.
When I need the little here and there odd and end, they have my support.

Steven Shelikoff

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Jeff C wrote:
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> On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:41:46 -0500, Steven Shelikoff
> <shel...@averstar.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I just filled in the catalog request form on their web page and they
> >sent one to me. I haven't ordered from them yet but will probably order
> >a wheel autopilot from them. On that item, they are around 8% cheaper
> >then West Marine, 14% when you add in the sales tax.
> >
>
> I think West matches prices. You could probably bring in the price to
> your local West store and pick up the item at the lower price. It may
> work out to your benefit, depending on shipping costs. If it is close
> to a wash, I'd buy local.

I would too, especially because it's easier to take it back if there's a
problem. But we're talking about a pretty significant difference in
price here. I'm not sure about the WM price match policy, but doesn't
it have to be a local store and not a mail order catalog for a local WM
store to match it? I can probably get the same price as the Defender
catalog from the WM catalog, but then I'd have to pay shipping *and*
sales tax because WM has a local presence.

Plus, if I buy at the local WM store, I have to pay an additional point
above the state sales tax just for the priveledge of shopping in
Philadelphia. Ok, for this item, the additional point will only cost me
$10. But I avoid that just on principle alone if I can. Maybe I'll go
down to Delaware and buy it.

Jeff C

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:50:53 -0500, Steven Shelikoff
<shel...@averstar.com> wrote:

It's worth checking out, IMO.

Harry Krause

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I buy the expensive stuff from West or Boat/US. They have stores in my
area, and each store has at least one guy who knows his stuff,
electronics wise. And both stores have a liberal return policy.

By far, the best supply store I've encountered has been the West store
in Jax, on Roosevelt Boulevard. There was hardly any employee turnover,
they knew their stuff, they could recommend quality tradespeople and so
forth.


--
Harry Krause
------------

Only the good die young. Note the average age of Congress

Russ Glindmeier, CFP

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Steven Shelikoff wrote in message <38B6B2ED...@averstar.com>...

>
>I would too, especially because it's easier to take it back if there's a
>problem. But we're talking about a pretty significant difference in
>price here. I'm not sure about the WM price match policy, but doesn't
>it have to be a local store and not a mail order catalog for a local WM
>store to match it? I can probably get the same price as the Defender
>catalog from the WM catalog, but then I'd have to pay shipping *and*
>sales tax because WM has a local presence.
>
>Plus, if I buy at the local WM store, I have to pay an additional point
>above the state sales tax just for the priveledge of shopping in
>Philadelphia. Ok, for this item, the additional point will only cost me
>$10. But I avoid that just on principle alone if I can. Maybe I'll go
>down to Delaware and buy it.
>

>Steve
>


Call your local WM store and ask for the manager. Tell him you're a ready
buyer for this specific product and have a verifiable advertised price on it
from another vendor. I'd be surprised if he wasn't eager to capture the
business. If so, you get the product at the discounted price and you've
contributed to your local economy at both the retail and governmental level.
In addition, it's one more stroke for for the local store to be able to
justify its existence to corporate headquarters, further insuring that it
will be there next time you need that little something in a hurry.

Russ

Phoenix

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Steve,
I am amazed at how many people (me included) will go out of their way to
save money when we considered it foolish tax. These extra taxes more often
than not, eventually end up reducing the tax base and the ones left paying
it are the poor and the ones who can least afford it.

--

Jim


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> Jeff C wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:41:46 -0500, Steven Shelikoff
> > <shel...@averstar.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >I just filled in the catalog request form on their web page and they
> > >sent one to me. I haven't ordered from them yet but will probably
order
> > >a wheel autopilot from them. On that item, they are around 8% cheaper
> > >then West Marine, 14% when you add in the sales tax.
> > >
> >
> > I think West matches prices. You could probably bring in the price to
> > your local West store and pick up the item at the lower price. It may
> > work out to your benefit, depending on shipping costs. If it is close
> > to a wash, I'd buy local.
>

> I would too, especially because it's easier to take it back if there's a
> problem. But we're talking about a pretty significant difference in
> price here. I'm not sure about the WM price match policy, but doesn't
> it have to be a local store and not a mail order catalog for a local WM
> store to match it? I can probably get the same price as the Defender
> catalog from the WM catalog, but then I'd have to pay shipping *and*
> sales tax because WM has a local presence.
>
> Plus, if I buy at the local WM store, I have to pay an additional point
> above the state sales tax just for the priveledge of shopping in
> Philadelphia. Ok, for this item, the additional point will only cost me
> $10. But I avoid that just on principle alone if I can. Maybe I'll go
> down to Delaware and buy it.
>
> Steve
>

George Jefferson

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:I am amazed at how many people (me included) will go out of their way to

:save money when we considered it foolish tax. These extra taxes more often
:than not, eventually end up reducing the tax base and the ones left paying
:it are the poor and the ones who can least afford it.

this suprises you really? Even liberals don't give away their own
money.

What suprises me (well not really) is the stupidity of having a higher
sales tax in a city where businesses are fleeing to the suburbs already.

Steven Shelikoff

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George Jefferson wrote:
>
> :I am amazed at how many people (me included) will go out of their way to
> :save money when we considered it foolish tax. These extra taxes more often
> :than not, eventually end up reducing the tax base and the ones left paying
> :it are the poor and the ones who can least afford it.
>
> this suprises you really? Even liberals don't give away their own
> money.
>
> What suprises me (well not really) is the stupidity of having a higher
> sales tax in a city where businesses are fleeing to the suburbs already.

Even more surprising (well not really:) is that liberals are the ones
who passed the higher sales tax for Philadelphia. I thought liberals
were supposed to be against flat taxes like a sales tax because they
claim it's regressive. Well, anything to line their pockets I guess.
Their duplicity is audacious.

Chuck Tribolet

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I've had trouble beating their prices. I have to work really hard and
deal with people I've never heard of. And then you get 5% back on
their "frequent buyer card", or 10% if you have a new boat. So I don't
bother.

And very importantly, they have a no-bull guarantee. Don't like it
bring it back. I pinched a fender and it was leaking a little. I'd
had it couple of years and went in to buy a new one. They reminded me
that fender had a forever warantee.

--
Chuck Tribolet
Internet: tri...@garlic.com
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet

Silicon Valley: Best day job in the world.

Chuck Tribolet

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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Just for grins, I priced the electronics on my console. Prices
are from the websites.

Ray 52 VHF
Defender: 185.95
West: 189.99 (Not well indexed -- had a hard time finding)
Humminbird Wide 3D Paramount:
Defender: 503.95
West: 499.99
Garmin GPSMAP 175 (and Garmin has a $50 rebate on top of these)
Defender: 488.95
West: 499.99
Standard HX350S Handheld VHF
Defender: 269.95 (Not well indexed -- had a hard time finding)
West: 269.99

Total:
Defender: 1448.81
West: 1459.96
Difference: 11.15, or about 77/100 of a percent. That's not worth
even ten minutes of my time.

And a couple of items I'd like to be on my console:

Standard Horizon Intrepid VHF
Defender: 211.29
West: 219.99
Standard Horizon Spectrum VHF
Defender: not found
West:: not found
Garmin GPSMAP 162:
Defender: not found
West: not found

It's good that the last two aren't found -- they aren't available yet.

Silicon Valley: Best day job in the world.


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Chuck Tribolet

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We had a great long interchange on the merits of West
and other outfits. Let's change the subject a little:

What did you find in the catalog that's new this year and you think is
really cool. I'll start it off with:

- Garmin GPSMAP 162.
- Standard Horizon Spectrum VHF
- Ancor Dielectric Grease (it's real hard to find till now).
- Even more stainless steel tools. You can now pretty well fill your
boat's tool box with SS.

Silicon Valley: Best day job in the world.

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Jerry Hahn

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Now if they would send them out as often as my (I mean the wifes) V.S.
catalog.

--
You can lead me to the water, but not away from it.

Russ Glindmeier, CFP

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Jerry Hahn wrote in message ...

>Now if they would send them out as often as my (I mean the wifes) V.S.
>catalog.
>


Now there's an interesting merger possibility. Imagine page after page V.S.
models posing with and demonstrating the use of the latest in boating
gadgets and doodads. Could a catalog get any better than that?

Russ

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