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JustWait
Jan 30, 2012, 12:53:34 PM1/30/12
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Ok, without a lot of research I can tell you this much.. So far, they
work pretty well.
The wife is, uh, was about a pack a day smoker, she rolls her own so
it's a lot cheaper than it could otherwise be, but she spends a lot of
time rolling every day. The other day she tried one of these e-cigs with
no expectations, and no pressure. Holy crap, she is down to about two
cigarettes a day (from 20) and in between pulls on the e-cig nicotine
system. There is no smell at all and no fire so she can do it in the
car, or in the barn, etc... So far she has a real cig in the morning,
uses the e-cig all day, and one real cig before going to bed...
Bottom line is, I am not sure if she is trying to quit cigs all together
or just cut back. But from talking to her, the e-cig completely
satisfies her desire to smoke any real cigs all day long. No cravings,
doesn't miss the real things during the day, etc.. If she continues this
way she will probably never smoke another cigarette again which will be
cool with me and The Mouse;).
I should note that I don't know a lot about these things, and am not
endorsing the use of any nicotine product or vap product. I am only
reporting our own personal experience with them. Do your own research,
these things are not yet regulated so buyer beware...
RMR
work pretty well.
The wife is, uh, was about a pack a day smoker, she rolls her own so
it's a lot cheaper than it could otherwise be, but she spends a lot of
time rolling every day. The other day she tried one of these e-cigs with
no expectations, and no pressure. Holy crap, she is down to about two
cigarettes a day (from 20) and in between pulls on the e-cig nicotine
system. There is no smell at all and no fire so she can do it in the
car, or in the barn, etc... So far she has a real cig in the morning,
uses the e-cig all day, and one real cig before going to bed...
Bottom line is, I am not sure if she is trying to quit cigs all together
or just cut back. But from talking to her, the e-cig completely
satisfies her desire to smoke any real cigs all day long. No cravings,
doesn't miss the real things during the day, etc.. If she continues this
way she will probably never smoke another cigarette again which will be
cool with me and The Mouse;).
I should note that I don't know a lot about these things, and am not
endorsing the use of any nicotine product or vap product. I am only
reporting our own personal experience with them. Do your own research,
these things are not yet regulated so buyer beware...
RMR
X ` Man
Jan 30, 2012, 2:04:13 PM1/30/12
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X ` Man
Jan 30, 2012, 2:35:35 PM1/30/12
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iBoaterer
Jan 30, 2012, 2:36:25 PM1/30/12
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In article <NeOdndujKfUwdLvS...@earthlink.com>, dump-on-
conser...@anywhere-you-can.com says...
A friend of mine quit cigarettes by taking up dipping skoal. He now
doesn't think that was such a wise move!
conser...@anywhere-you-can.com says...
doesn't think that was such a wise move!
OriginalJack
Jan 30, 2012, 3:05:03 PM1/30/12
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Chewed two pieces of nicorette gum, then stopped that. It was 6 weeks
of no fun, but now I can't stand cigarette smoke.
Hopefully she'll find a way to stop completely.
iBoaterer
Jan 30, 2012, 3:16:28 PM1/30/12
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In article <9oo9o7...@mid.individual.net>, ev...@conservatrash.com
says...
Here is a sampling out of ATL but there are many cities served by Air
Tran.
http://www.airtran.com/sale/ATL.aspx?saleID=
says...
Tran.
http://www.airtran.com/sale/ATL.aspx?saleID=
iBoaterer
Jan 30, 2012, 3:17:29 PM1/30/12
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In article <a8ddea20-631e-40f3-8270-21bf53547943
@o20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, threep...@live.com says...
I quit about 9 years ago as well. I got the pills, and it was still
hard, but I'm so glad I did it!
@o20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, threep...@live.com says...
hard, but I'm so glad I did it!
*e#c
Jan 30, 2012, 4:53:54 PM1/30/12
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On Jan 30, 3:17 pm, iBoaterer <b...@dah.net> wrote:
> In article <a8ddea20-631e-40f3-8270-21bf53547943
> @o20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, threepont...@live.com says...
> In article <a8ddea20-631e-40f3-8270-21bf53547943
BAR
Jan 30, 2012, 7:33:51 PM1/30/12
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In article <a8ddea20-631e-40f3-8270-21bf53547943
@o20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, threep...@live.com says...
I used the 20mg patch for 3 weeks and haven't touched a smoke in 10
years.
You have to have a reason to quite. My wife has tried many times with
the patch, the pills, the e-sig and cold turkey. She has failed each
time. She hasn't found a reason that will make her quit.
@o20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, threep...@live.com says...
years.
You have to have a reason to quite. My wife has tried many times with
the patch, the pills, the e-sig and cold turkey. She has failed each
time. She hasn't found a reason that will make her quit.
X ` Man
Jan 30, 2012, 7:47:51 PM1/30/12
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want her around a long time, and smoking is contrary to that goal.
JustWait
Jan 30, 2012, 8:21:34 PM1/30/12
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healthier about her nicotine intake. She has been smoking them almost a
week now, she says she already notices the difference in her lungs...
Happy John
Jan 31, 2012, 7:13:17 AM1/31/12
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:13:38 -0500, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:53:34 -0500, JustWait <motod...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>My wife has a $3-4 a day gum habit
It took me a couple years to break the Nicorette habit. I was still 'addicted' to having something
in my mouth to chew on. I switched to Orbit - the orange stuff. Still on it, but it's a hell of a
sight cheaper than Nicorettes.
>On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:53:34 -0500, JustWait <motod...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
It took me a couple years to break the Nicorette habit. I was still 'addicted' to having something
in my mouth to chew on. I switched to Orbit - the orange stuff. Still on it, but it's a hell of a
sight cheaper than Nicorettes.
Happy John
Jan 31, 2012, 7:15:28 AM1/31/12
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too. And, her singing voice will improve dramatically. Tim can attest to how great mine is now.
BAR
Jan 31, 2012, 7:35:18 AM1/31/12
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In article <oomfi7pfdjfuovl9l...@4ax.com>,
salmo...@gmail.com says...
I started smoking at 11 and smoked for 29 years before quiting. I don't
think my lungs will ever recover.
salmo...@gmail.com says...
think my lungs will ever recover.
iBoaterer
Jan 31, 2012, 8:55:55 AM1/31/12
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In article <MPG.299100f...@news.giganews.com>, sc...@you.com
says...
You are exactly correct. My son in law has tried the gum, the patch, the
pills and failed each time. He, as others including myself for many
years claimed to enjoy smoking! Until I got off of that mindset, I
couldn't quit. Once I came to the realization of what a nasty, filthy
habit it is, and that it is a major contributer to health problems, I
quit with the pill first try.
says...
pills and failed each time. He, as others including myself for many
years claimed to enjoy smoking! Until I got off of that mindset, I
couldn't quit. Once I came to the realization of what a nasty, filthy
habit it is, and that it is a major contributer to health problems, I
quit with the pill first try.
iBoaterer
Jan 31, 2012, 8:57:06 AM1/31/12
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In article <jg7fn0$rr2$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
Hopefully, that in and of itself will give her the desire to totally
quit.
quit.
JustWait
Jan 31, 2012, 9:02:50 AM1/31/12
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JustWait
Jan 31, 2012, 9:04:06 AM1/31/12
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patches so I know the habit...
iBoaterer
Jan 31, 2012, 10:35:12 AM1/31/12
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In article <jg8sae$2tb$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
Some people like breathing easier, too!
JustWait
Jan 31, 2012, 10:38:21 AM1/31/12
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On 1/31/2012 10:35 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
> In article<jg8sae$2tb$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
That's one of the reasons she went to the e-cigs...
> In article<jg8sae$2tb$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
iBoaterer
Jan 31, 2012, 10:52:38 AM1/31/12
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In article <jg8sco$2tb$2...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
It's hell to quit! Psychologists suggest it's harder than heroin to
quit. Different withdrawal symptoms but still harder.
quit. Different withdrawal symptoms but still harder.
X ` Man
Jan 31, 2012, 11:20:27 AM1/31/12
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their clothes, house, cars, et cetera, really smell bad. I don't know if
you can ever get the stench of cigarette smoke out of carpeting and
upholstered furniture. When Maryland banned smoking in restaurants, a
lot of them refurbished their interiors because no matter how many times
the carpet and furniture were cleaned, they still smelled like cigarette
smoke.
We hate getting on elevators with smokers. They smell like ashtrays.
Wayne.B
Jan 31, 2012, 11:39:54 AM1/31/12
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:04:06 -0500, JustWait <motod...@gmail.com>
wrote:
===
I went cold turkey a long time ago and have never gone back. It was a
very tough year however, and even 5 years later I'd still get an
occassional urge to smoke, usually when out partying with other
smokers. The good news is that it's easier to stay away from other
smokers these days.
wrote:
I went cold turkey a long time ago and have never gone back. It was a
very tough year however, and even 5 years later I'd still get an
occassional urge to smoke, usually when out partying with other
smokers. The good news is that it's easier to stay away from other
smokers these days.
iBoaterer
Jan 31, 2012, 12:09:40 PM1/31/12
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In article <o36gi717fb1s4iaum...@4ax.com>,
waynebatr...@hotmail.com says...
Oh, yes, it was many years before I had no urges at all. Even well after
when they started stinking to me!
waynebatr...@hotmail.com says...
when they started stinking to me!
Happy John
Jan 31, 2012, 2:26:23 PM1/31/12
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You wouldn't believe the difference in my lungs. Every year my lung capacity grows, and every year
the COPD has *not* gotten any worse. Don't ever think it's not worth it. It is!
Here, this is from my little program that keeps track of such things:
This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for eleven years, one month, six
days, 14 hours, and 26 minutes. This has resulted in 202730 cigarettes not smoked, saving $30,409.51
and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Furthermore, this will provide
him an additional 1 year, 48 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, and 10 minutes to spend his daughters'
inheritance.
Happy John
Jan 31, 2012, 2:27:11 PM1/31/12
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Happy John
Jan 31, 2012, 2:28:30 PM1/31/12
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iBoaterer
Jan 31, 2012, 4:50:51 PM1/31/12
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In article <rvjgi7pqa21nqkeie...@4ax.com>,
gfre...@aol.com says...
> expedient and quit right away.
> I still enjoy a nice cigar now and then but I like the kind I can't
> really afford on a regular basis.
I wouldn't mind one on occasion but I can't. When I quit smoking the
first time, I decided after about 3 years that I could have a puff of a
cigar when hanging out with the neighbors on the deck with a cold beer
on Friday night. It took about three months until I bought a pack of
cigarettes and started smoking in earnest again! SO, this time, I've not
touched any tobacco product!
gfre...@aol.com says...
> >When I quit I did it one shot, never looked back. No pills, no gum, no
> >patches so I know the habit...
>
> I was lucky that I never got hooked. I can smoke when it is socially
> >patches so I know the habit...
>
> expedient and quit right away.
> I still enjoy a nice cigar now and then but I like the kind I can't
> really afford on a regular basis.
I wouldn't mind one on occasion but I can't. When I quit smoking the
first time, I decided after about 3 years that I could have a puff of a
cigar when hanging out with the neighbors on the deck with a cold beer
on Friday night. It took about three months until I bought a pack of
cigarettes and started smoking in earnest again! SO, this time, I've not
touched any tobacco product!
JustWait
Jan 31, 2012, 6:30:42 PM1/31/12
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like coffee.. anyway, it doesn't matter, she likes her nicotine and she
is a big girl..... soooooo....
As to the Cigarettes, well, either way I have to guess it's finished
business at this point. My wife never, ever, talks about anything until
it's finished. And I mean that literally, she is very private and never
tips her hand in issues like this till it's done... Today she "talked
about it".. Today when I woke up here ashtray was clean save the one
e-cig, she took her remaining pack of tobacco and tossed it deep into
the freezer. Tonight told me she didn't have any cigarettes today at all
and then she posted on FB about the E-Cigs... Knowing my wife the way I
do, this means only one thing.... she probably never intends to pick up
another cigarette again. She told me today on the way home from the
stables, "I haven't had any cigs today and I don't miss them at all".
Yup, finished business...
Now, my point here was not to have anyone preach to us but being my wife
doesn't even want to quit smoking and switched to this... I thought it
might be helpful to any of you who have family members who smoke, to at
least convince them to move to these things instead for the sake of
those around them... At the same time, these seem very effective for
folks who want to quit too...
JustWait
Jan 31, 2012, 6:44:50 PM1/31/12
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were going out for a big night with the guys I would buy a pack of
Marlborough (my brand), smoke them all night, and hand them to someone
on the way out of the bar... This might happen a couple times a year.
Even now I sometimes take a drag off the wifes cig (won't be able to do
that any more) when we are hanging out, maybe three or four times a year
if that. I make beer I don't drink either;)
X ` Man
Jan 31, 2012, 6:47:34 PM1/31/12
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JustWait
Jan 31, 2012, 7:13:48 PM1/31/12
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an agreement but that's another story. Either way, I am sitting back
watching, and liking what I see...
Happy John
Jan 31, 2012, 7:30:54 PM1/31/12
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Happy John
Jan 31, 2012, 7:32:10 PM1/31/12
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smoke three at a time.
Wayne.B
Jan 31, 2012, 8:16:56 PM1/31/12
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:36:53 -0500, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:04:06 -0500, JustWait <motod...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:04:06 -0500, JustWait <motod...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>When I quit I did it one shot, never looked back. No pills, no gum, no
>>patches so I know the habit...
>
>>patches so I know the habit...
>
>I was lucky that I never got hooked. I can smoke when it is socially
>expedient and quit right away.
>I still enjoy a nice cigar now and then but I like the kind I can't
>really afford on a regular basis.
======
>expedient and quit right away.
>I still enjoy a nice cigar now and then but I like the kind I can't
>really afford on a regular basis.
Remind me to bring you back a Cuban. I don't smoke them myself but
friends say they are quite good.
Wayne.B
Jan 31, 2012, 8:20:10 PM1/31/12
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:32:10 -0500, Happy John <salmo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
===
I feel the same way because that's how all previous quitting attempts
ended. Better not to find out because they really are addictive.
wrote:
I feel the same way because that's how all previous quitting attempts
ended. Better not to find out because they really are addictive.
Wayne.B
Jan 31, 2012, 8:23:57 PM1/31/12
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>At the same time, these seem very effective for
>folks who want to quit too...
===
>folks who want to quit too...
So how does an E-cig work exactly?
JustWait
Jan 31, 2012, 9:10:22 PM1/31/12
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which senses when you draw on the "cigarette". There is a cartridge
which is in most cases is filled with a polyester fill and the "juice",
generally a vegetable based glycol with nicotine and or flavor added.
There is an atomizer with a heating element which heats the wicked
"juice" to appx. 375F. And and a battery with a sensor which turns on
the atomizer when it senses a draw on the "cigarette". There are some
variations like "cartomizer"s, which are a cartridge and atomizer in
one, there are refillable ones too that do not take a cartridge, but
have a tank, etc....
The main function of the tool is to evaporate the nicotine and glycol
mixture into a vapor with no flame. When you take a puff, the sensor
turns on the heating element which evaporates the liquid into the
mouthpiece. This vapor is inhaled and the flavor and nicotine is
delivered in the form and feel of a cigarette. You can get strong,
medium, or light doses juice, or a lot of my kids friends "smoke" the
zero nicotine options just for the flavors and there are hundreds.
So basically, it's really a "vaporizer" rather than a "cigarette"...
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JustWait
Feb 1, 2012, 6:49:45 AM2/1/12
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On 2/1/2012 1:18 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
They are... mostly "earwax" which is a water extracted hash product...
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:10:22 -0500, JustWait<motod...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> So how does an E-cig work exactly?
>>>
>>
>>
>> There are three basic parts. There is the battery and a small sensor
>> which senses when you draw on the "cigarette". There is a cartridge
>> which is in most cases is filled with a polyester fill and the "juice",
>> generally a vegetable based glycol with nicotine and or flavor added.
>> There is an atomizer with a heating element which heats the wicked
>> "juice" to appx. 375F. And and a battery with a sensor which turns on
>> the atomizer when it senses a draw on the "cigarette". There are some
>> variations like "cartomizer"s, which are a cartridge and atomizer in
>> one, there are refillable ones too that do not take a cartridge, but
>> have a tank, etc....
>>
>> The main function of the tool is to evaporate the nicotine and glycol
>> mixture into a vapor with no flame. When you take a puff, the sensor
>> turns on the heating element which evaporates the liquid into the
>> mouthpiece. This vapor is inhaled and the flavor and nicotine is
>> delivered in the form and feel of a cigarette. You can get strong,
>> medium, or light doses juice, or a lot of my kids friends "smoke" the
>> zero nicotine options just for the flavors and there are hundreds.
>>
>> So basically, it's really a "vaporizer" rather than a "cigarette"...
>
> I am surprised people are not putting hash oil in them.
> wrote:
>
>>> So how does an E-cig work exactly?
>>>
>>
>>
>> There are three basic parts. There is the battery and a small sensor
>> which senses when you draw on the "cigarette". There is a cartridge
>> which is in most cases is filled with a polyester fill and the "juice",
>> generally a vegetable based glycol with nicotine and or flavor added.
>> There is an atomizer with a heating element which heats the wicked
>> "juice" to appx. 375F. And and a battery with a sensor which turns on
>> the atomizer when it senses a draw on the "cigarette". There are some
>> variations like "cartomizer"s, which are a cartridge and atomizer in
>> one, there are refillable ones too that do not take a cartridge, but
>> have a tank, etc....
>>
>> The main function of the tool is to evaporate the nicotine and glycol
>> mixture into a vapor with no flame. When you take a puff, the sensor
>> turns on the heating element which evaporates the liquid into the
>> mouthpiece. This vapor is inhaled and the flavor and nicotine is
>> delivered in the form and feel of a cigarette. You can get strong,
>> medium, or light doses juice, or a lot of my kids friends "smoke" the
>> zero nicotine options just for the flavors and there are hundreds.
>>
>> So basically, it's really a "vaporizer" rather than a "cigarette"...
>
They are... mostly "earwax" which is a water extracted hash product...
JustWait
Feb 1, 2012, 7:05:38 AM2/1/12
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http://gratefulbuys.com/product_info.php?products_id=425&gclid=CLzSp_fd_K0CFWyHtgodAlxsuA
There are lot's of them out there...
BAR
Feb 1, 2012, 7:37:35 AM2/1/12
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In article <MPG.2991bcf43...@news.eternal-september.org>,
bl...@dah.net says...
life. My life was based upon when and where I was going to smoke my next
cigarette. Add to this the fact that it was getting harder to breath.
bl...@dah.net says...
> You are exactly correct. My son in law has tried the gum, the patch, the
> pills and failed each time. He, as others including myself for many
> years claimed to enjoy smoking! Until I got off of that mindset, I
> couldn't quit. Once I came to the realization of what a nasty, filthy
> habit it is, and that it is a major contributer to health problems, I
> quit with the pill first try.
Mine was more along the lines of how cigarettes were controlling my
> pills and failed each time. He, as others including myself for many
> years claimed to enjoy smoking! Until I got off of that mindset, I
> couldn't quit. Once I came to the realization of what a nasty, filthy
> habit it is, and that it is a major contributer to health problems, I
> quit with the pill first try.
life. My life was based upon when and where I was going to smoke my next
cigarette. Add to this the fact that it was getting harder to breath.
BAR
Feb 1, 2012, 7:40:21 AM2/1/12
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In article <etlhi793uar3vn92t...@4ax.com>,
gfre...@aol.com says...
> Personally I think they are over rated, good but not that good for all
> of the hype.
> My wife says I am funny though. She says I act like I have 3 kilos of
> heroin when I am trying to hide them from customs..
Stick them in your kids back-pack.
gfre...@aol.com says...
>
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:16:56 -0500, Wayne.B
> <waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>I was lucky that I never got hooked. I can smoke when it is socially
> >>expedient and quit right away.
> >>I still enjoy a nice cigar now and then but I like the kind I can't
> >>really afford on a regular basis.
> >
> >======
> >
> >Remind me to bring you back a Cuban. I don't smoke them myself but
> >friends say they are quite good.
>
> I usually pick up a few when I am out of the country, mostly as gifts.
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:16:56 -0500, Wayne.B
> <waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>I was lucky that I never got hooked. I can smoke when it is socially
> >>expedient and quit right away.
> >>I still enjoy a nice cigar now and then but I like the kind I can't
> >>really afford on a regular basis.
> >
> >======
> >
> >Remind me to bring you back a Cuban. I don't smoke them myself but
> >friends say they are quite good.
>
> Personally I think they are over rated, good but not that good for all
> of the hype.
> My wife says I am funny though. She says I act like I have 3 kilos of
> heroin when I am trying to hide them from customs..
Stick them in your kids back-pack.
JustWait
Feb 1, 2012, 7:41:49 AM2/1/12
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there are hundreds of folks out there making them. You have to try a
bunch before you find one that works for you. For my wife it was the
feel. We ended up with BluCigs which are the same size as a regular
cigarette and have a similar feel. She also likes the taste of them
better than some others she tried.
iBoaterer
Feb 1, 2012, 8:40:30 AM2/1/12
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In article <bs1hi79cl6or7q2o6...@4ax.com>,
salmo...@gmail.com says...
I do hope she takes the next step and quits. I've been there with the
denial, telling everyone I enjoyed smoking. Nobody enjoys that filthy
habit.
salmo...@gmail.com says...
denial, telling everyone I enjoyed smoking. Nobody enjoys that filthy
habit.
X ` Man
Feb 1, 2012, 8:41:41 AM2/1/12
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a couple of examples of news reporta about them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b5i_7rAGQpQ
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/01/05/us-e-cigarettes-idUKTRE8041WB20120105
There are many more reports. Seems like a product worthy of avoiding.
q
iBoaterer
Feb 1, 2012, 8:43:51 AM2/1/12
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In article <rm4hi79j84u541a5a...@4ax.com>,
waynebatr...@hotmail.com says...
Exactly!! My experience as well!
waynebatr...@hotmail.com says...
JustWait
Feb 1, 2012, 9:30:49 AM2/1/12
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a teen like most, quit in my late twenties iirc...
JustWait
Feb 1, 2012, 9:33:34 AM2/1/12
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the big Pharmaceutical lobby which hates these as they can't control
them and make a fortune like they can with the patch and gum... They
will embrace them as soon as the FDA gets involved so they can control
the market...
X ` Man
Feb 1, 2012, 10:16:35 AM2/1/12
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substances in that stuff that are or may be harmful. The only time I've
ever seen these devices is in a local mall at a sales kiosk. I'm no
expert, but I can't see where taking in a narcotic and other substances
is a *good* thing, long-term.
iBoaterer
Feb 1, 2012, 11:10:52 AM2/1/12
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In article <9ot3ak...@mid.individual.net>, ev...@conservatrash.com
says...
Nicotine is also toxic. In the U.S. a lot of insecticides still use
nicotine as a major ingredient.
says...
nicotine as a major ingredient.
Happy John
Feb 1, 2012, 5:41:54 PM2/1/12
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addictive. It's all the other shit in cigarettes that tears up lungs, teeth, larynx, gums, etc.,
etc. If nicotine was so damaging, Nicorettes and all the other cigarette replacement therapies,
which are nicotine based, wouldn't be suggested by so many in the medical profession.
A little nicotine inhaled with water vapor is nowhere near as bad for the body as the inhaled smoke
from a Marlboro.
Earl
Feb 1, 2012, 8:07:34 PM2/1/12
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gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:16:56 -0500, Wayne.B
> <waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:16:56 -0500, Wayne.B
> <waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I was lucky that I never got hooked. I can smoke when it is socially
>>> expedient and quit right away.
>>> I still enjoy a nice cigar now and then but I like the kind I can't
>>> really afford on a regular basis.
>> ======
>>
>> Remind me to bring you back a Cuban. I don't smoke them myself but
>> friends say they are quite good.
>>> expedient and quit right away.
>>> I still enjoy a nice cigar now and then but I like the kind I can't
>>> really afford on a regular basis.
>> ======
>>
>> Remind me to bring you back a Cuban. I don't smoke them myself but
>> friends say they are quite good.
> I usually pick up a few when I am out of the country, mostly as gifts.
> Personally I think they are over rated, good but not that good for all
> of the hype.
> My wife says I am funny though. She says I act like I have 3 kilos of
> heroin when I am trying to hide them from customs..
Many tourist areas sell fakes. Customs will only confiscate them unless
> Personally I think they are over rated, good but not that good for all
> of the hype.
> My wife says I am funny though. She says I act like I have 3 kilos of
> heroin when I am trying to hide them from customs..
you have a large quantity in your bag.
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Happy John
Feb 2, 2012, 7:55:18 AM2/2/12
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On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:30:48 -0500, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:41:54 -0500, Happy John <salmo...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>My wife is certainly the science fair project for that. She has been
>chewing a couple cards of gum a day for 15 years.
>
>BTW if you do have the habit, buy it from New Zealand. discoungum.com
>sells the stuff for less than half the best price we could find
>locally and even better if you buy a shitload. (~14-15 cents a chew)
Yup, I was getting mine through an Australian outfit. If you visit the Netherlands, the same stuff
over there is also really cheap.
>On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:41:54 -0500, Happy John <salmo...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>chewing a couple cards of gum a day for 15 years.
>
>BTW if you do have the habit, buy it from New Zealand. discoungum.com
>sells the stuff for less than half the best price we could find
>locally and even better if you buy a shitload. (~14-15 cents a chew)
Yup, I was getting mine through an Australian outfit. If you visit the Netherlands, the same stuff
over there is also really cheap.
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