Silverado report
John H
This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I
wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot,
that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner.
Wayne B
wrote:
>The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad.
Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. What is your
max towing weight, and is it a dualie?
John H
No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me!
We're considering one of these now...
But, it'll be a year or two.
Wayne B
wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:34:27 -0400, Wayne B <waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H <salmo...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad.
>>
>>Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. What is your
>>max towing weight, and is it a dualie?
>
>No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me!
>
>We're considering one of these now...
>
>http://tinyurl.com/6h3g9qh
>
>But, it'll be a year or two.
Nice!
That's a real "Land Yacht" as some people call their RVs. :-)
If you really want it, I'd do it now before diesel hits $10/gal.
John H
Well, if diesel hits $10 a gallon, we'll just have to save twice as long before going to Alaska. For
the past month or so, I've found diesel for less than regular at some stations. Now it's back up,
but it's still between regular and high test. It's running about 3.88/gal. I'm doing a lot more
motorcycle and bike riding.
L G
Not bad at all.
What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From
what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a
political thing.
John H
From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel.
Wayne B
wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L G <Lar...@leakyyukonrowboat.com> wrote:
There has also been a great deal of political pressure on the refinery
operators to ensure that they are producing sufficient quantities of
home heating oil and gasoline. The new environmental regs requiring
low sulfur diesel have also had an impact.
Califbill
news:1f3ov65chjsftg135...@4ax.com...
Reply:
About 20 cents more tax on a gallon and cost to produce is probably equal.
Years ago, they distilled the crude and diesel was more of a byproduct. Now
with catalytic cracking, they make more gasoline and other products as
required. My 2004 Duramax gets about 19.5 mpg driving 70, but the newer
years have one more gear in the tranny so get a mile or two.
John H
I had the cruise control at 65 the whole way, and I've got the Allison 6 speed.
Califbill
news:0qepv65s1ri216o14...@4ax.com...
Reply:
Have a hard time driving 65. Try to stay about a mile slower than the
fastest cars. Towing is 55 in California, but 65 on the 70 mph interstates
seems to be allowed. Most of the semi's do about 62-63. When I tow to
Canada, is nice to get in the higher tow speed states. Going to the
grandkids in SoCal, I leave the cruise control at about 80. 19.5 going
south, 18.5 north. I get about 13.5 towing the boat with the popup slide in
camper and doing about 65. Boat and trailer are about 4300# Both aluminum.
Tim
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:34:27 -0400, Wayne B <waynebatrecdotbo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H <salmonb...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad.
>
> >Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. What is your
> >max towing weight, and is it a dualie?
>
> No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me!
>
> We're considering one of these now...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6h3g9qh
>
> But, it'll be a year or two.
Hey that's quite a lay out. Very nice. Your Duro ought to dance with
that one as well.
Tim
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:44:36 -0400, Wayne B <waynebatrecdotbo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:18:13 -0400, John H <salmonb...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:34:27 -0400, Wayne B <waynebatrecdotbo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H <salmonb...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad.
>
> >>>Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. What is your
> >>>max towing weight, and is it a dualie?
>
> >>No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me!
>
> >>We're considering one of these now...
>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/6h3g9qh
>
> >>But, it'll be a year or two.
>
> >Nice!
>
> >That's a real "Land Yacht" as some people call their RVs. :-)
>
> >If you really want it, I'd do it now before diesel hits $10/gal.
>
> Well, if diesel hits $10 a gallon, we'll just have to save twice as long before going to Alaska. For
> the past month or so, I've found diesel for less than regular at some stations. Now it's back up,
> but it's still between regular and high test. It's running about 3.88/gal. I'm doing a lot more
> motorcycle and bike riding.
Today, local pump gas is $3.69
Tim
My 90 mercury wagon will get aprox 23 ont he road, unless I'm pulling
my 18 ft boat, then that 302 squats to the tune of about 14 mpg, when
pulling the 23 ftr. I think I might get 10, and that's running at 50
mph out of overdrive and watching the temp guage.
L G
gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that.
John H
Here is some good info on diesel prices.
http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.com/diesel_fuel_prices.aspx
Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up.
Wayne B
wrote:
>>How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more
>>gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that.
>
>Here is some good info on diesel prices.
>
>http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.com/diesel_fuel_prices.aspx
>
>Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up.
===
Good information, thanks.
It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since
there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy
Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". I don't see how they could
have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched
article. :-)
Richard Casady
Agent just ate my reply with a typo, and in 13 yeaars, I have never
figured out how. Our Lincoln Navigator has four cams and 32 valves and
only manages to get 14 at 70. The thing some real walnut trim,
steering wheel, little plates containing the window and door lock
switches. Nice looking. So, I sometimes call it:' The Sliverado.'
Casady
John H
They need those 'excess profits' to afford golf. Only we rich can afford the game.
John H
My Silverado gets 14 mpg - when I'm pulling the travel trailer. But, that's 40% better than my
4Runner got, so I'm not complaining.
Tim
> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H <salmonb...@gmail.com>
But Wayne. Somebody's got to turn on the lights...
Califbill
My 1999 Expedition sucked fuel. 14,5 mpg was about normal. In 100,000
miles the best I ever got on a long trip was 16.5 mpg, and that was from Los
Angeles to Pleasanton and I do not think I ever got over 65 mph. My 300 HP
327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph.
John H
Hell, I'm feeling better and better about my big f'ing truck!
Tim
My 300 HP
> 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph.
Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn.
Harryk
I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four
stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle
chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor
have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and
trimmer until they run dry.
--
Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where
personal insults are not allowed?
Jay
> On 6/20/11 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
>> On Jun 19, 11:46 pm, "Califbill"<bmc...@nospamix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> My 300 HP
>>> 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph.
>>
>> Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn.
>
>
> I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four
> stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle
> chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor
> have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and
> trimmer until they run dry.
>
>
>
I_am_Tosk
Speaking of motorbikes.. Jess and I did our first valve job on a four
stroke the other day. The bike is buttoned up and ran like a champ all
weekend long. We took the little bike just in case though...;)
Beautiful boating/riding weekend we had, a bit breezy but not enough to
cause any issues on the track... Have fun, later...
--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!
L G
> On 6/20/11 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
>> On Jun 19, 11:46 pm, "Califbill"<bmc...@nospamix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> My 300 HP
>>> 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph.
>>
>> Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn.
>
>
> I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four
> stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle
> chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor
> have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and
> trimmer until they run dry.
>
>
>
Califbill
news:rpSdnf71uY1zR2LQ...@giganews.com...
Reply:
I know the old gas got about 10% more mileage than the new stuff. But,
damn, all that computerized fuel injection and separate coil for each
cylinder, should get a lot more mileage than a high performance 1964 carbed
engine.
Richard Casady
The model T ford and renowned 409 both got about 15 MPH. So does our
Navigator, and the 94 F-150. The navigator has a four cam 32 valve 330
inch V-8, which seems a bit rich for a truck. Lincoln had to match the
Cadillac Northstar. Where the difference in mileage with the new cars
shows up is around town, the carbs would work well at the steady
cruise they were optimized for.
Casady
Harryk
15 mpg?
Ouch.
Unless you regularly need its hauling abilities (people or a trailer),
why even own such a gas hog? I presume the Navigator is similar to the
Escalade, a recent version of which I had a chance to drive a couple of
months ago. It wasn't a pleasure to drive; it felt like I was driving an
aircraft carrier.
Different strokes for different folks, of course. But what's the
attraction of an SUV that's even more overstuffed, if you will, than the
average SUV?
iBoat
says...
Take your condescending bullshit over to your own group, asshat.
Jay
Same logic can be applied to your boat. Why carry all that baggage out
to the bay for a picnic lunch once or twice a week. Don't you think your
small Parker would fit your needs better?
iBoat
Richard Casady
When I was a car dealer I borrowed a GMC 3/4 T pickup off the lot. I
called it the Nimitz.
>> >
>> > Different strokes for different folks, of course. But what's the
>> > attraction of an SUV that's even more overstuffed, if you will, than the
>> > average SUV?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Same logic can be applied to your boat. Why carry all that baggage out
>> to the bay for a picnic lunch once or twice a week. Don't you think your
>> small Parker would fit your needs better?
>
>He doesn't have a boat.
A Parker wouldn't make that bad a coastal cruiser, especially if you
like marinas, motels, and restaurants, which we would prefer even we
had, say, a nice Grand Banks. Two small four stroke motors?
Casady
Harryk
We hada 25' Parker for a few years. Nice boat, but even with its cabin,
much more a fishing boat than any kind of comfortable cruiser.
Wayne B
<richar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>A Parker wouldn't make that bad a coastal cruiser, especially if you
>like marinas, motels, and restaurants, which we would prefer even we
>had, say, a nice Grand Banks. Two small four stroke motors?
Sounds like a plan. Why don't we meet up somewhere down in the
southern Caribbean next February. Your outboard Parker will be quite
a conversation piece down there.
Richard Casady
You miss the coastal part? I would cruise Iowa, which is between the
two biggest rivers in North America, first, then on to Halifax. You
can also trailer a Parker.
Casady
Harryk
Parker has a new 28-footer on the drawing board...one with a new, larger
cabin. Or so the rumors go. No one has seen it, but it is being
discussed. But you'd need some monster outboards. There's a 23-footer
that probably could work with two smaller outboards...150 hp each.
BAR
richar...@earthlink.net says...
My 2001 F-150 with the 5.4L V8 (330) gets about 13.5 MPG in the winter
when I have to use oxygenated gas and I get about 17 or 18 in the summer
when I get to put in 100% gasoline. The idiots who think I am saving the
planet in the winter by burning the oxygenated stuff are big idiots.
On the highway I get about 21 MPG.
Wayne B
<richar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:17:48 -0400, Wayne B
><waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:53:00 -0500, Richard Casady
>><richar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>A Parker wouldn't make that bad a coastal cruiser, especially if you
>>>like marinas, motels, and restaurants, which we would prefer even we
>>>had, say, a nice Grand Banks. Two small four stroke motors?
>>
>>Sounds like a plan. Why don't we meet up somewhere down in the
>>southern Caribbean next February. Your outboard Parker will be quite
>>a conversation piece down there.
>
>You miss the coastal part? I would cruise Iowa, which is between the
>two biggest rivers in North America, first, then on to Halifax. You
>can also trailer a Parker.
>
Probably the best production boat in that size range for the type of
cruising you describe is the Rosborough RF-246 Sedan Cruiser.
http://www.rosboroughboats.com/sedan_cruiser.html
We've seen a bunch and people just love them, very neat little boats.
There are a number of different power options including an inboard
diesel if memory is correct.
Richard Casady
Jack.
> "John H" wrote in message
>
> news:sk3tv6lc65urva2bu...@4ax.com...
>
> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:26:15 -0500, Richard Casady
>
>
>
>
>
> <richardcas...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:40:48 -0400, Wayne B
>
> >>On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H <salmonb...@gmail.com>
>
> - Show quoted text -
My 'vette has 436 HP, does 0-60 in 4.3 seconds, and has a top speed
of 190 mph. I'm getting 22 mpg around town and nearly 27 on the
highway. Of course, it only weighs 3200 lbs and it's easy to push
through the air. You just can't compare these big, heavy, blunt SUVs
to cars. Apples and oranges.
Harryk
Gee, my less powerful little sports car gets to 60 as quickly as yours,
and gets better mileage, too. Of course, it also isn't suitable for
pulling a heavy boat trailer, so why bother mentioning it? Oh...you
wanted us to know you had a plastic sports car!
iBoat
says...
That's Harry, never miss an opportunity to be a true asshole....
Wayne B
>That's Harry, never miss an opportunity to be a true asshole....
====
Let's give credit where credit is due:
He's really good at what he does.
Jack.
> In article <96e4snFfh...@mid.individual.net>, payer33...@mypacks.net
It's pretty funny... notice how he fails to mention exactly what "less
powerful little sports car" he has? That's because if he really has
one, it isn't nearly a 4.3 second car. Not taking anything away from
small, nimble British or other marque sports cars, but they are
typically 6-10 second cars. They are great fun to drive, but even a
base Corvette will eat them alive on a track.
But if he can post a pic of his chubby fingers holding a harry nametag
with that little sports car in the background that has a 0-60 time of
4.5 seconds or less, I know we'd all like to see it!
HarryK
Assholes, I have a great sportscar, and I have posted photos of the car
and my new boat over in my Google Group. I don't post any info in
rec.boats because you and your kind have destroyed this group.
iBoat
@w4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, threep...@live.com says...
>
> On Jun 22, 8:43ï¿œam, iBoat <ea...@pacs.net> wrote:
> > In article <96e4snFfh...@mid.individual.net>, payer33...@mypacks.net
> > says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 6/22/11 8:12 AM, Jack. wrote:
> > > >> "John H" ï¿œwrote in message
> >
> > > >>news:sk3tv6lc65urva2bu...@4ax.com...
> >
> > > >> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:26:15 -0500, Richard Casady
> >
> > > >>> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:40:48 -0400, Wayne B
> > > >>>>>> gasoline sold. ï¿œThe taxes are another matter. ï¿œI'll look into that.
> >
> > > >>>>> Here is some good info on diesel prices.
> >
> > > >>>>>http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.com/diesel_fuel_prices.aspx
> >
> > > >>>>> Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up.
> >
> > > >>>> ===
> >
> > > >>>> Good information, thanks.
> >
> > > >>>> It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since
> > > >>>> there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy
> > > >>>> have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched
> >
> > > >>> Agent just ate my reply with a typo, and in 13 yeaars, I have never
> > > >>> figured out how. Our Lincoln Navigator has four cams and 32 valves and
> > > >>> only manages to get 14 at 70. The thing some real walnut trim,
> > > >>> steering wheel, little plates containing the window and door lock
> > > >>> switches. Nice looking. So, I sometimes call it:' The Sliverado.'
> >
> > > >>> Casady
> >
> > > >> My Silverado gets 14 mpg - when I'm pulling the travel trailer. But, that's
> > > >> 40% better than my
> > > >> 4Runner got, so I'm not complaining.
> >
> > > >> miles the best I ever got on a long trip was 16.5 mpg, and that was from Los
> > > >> 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > of 190 mph. ï¿œI'm getting 22 mpg around town and nearly 27 on the
> > > > highway. ï¿œOf course, it only weighs 3200 lbs and it's easy to push
> > > > through the air. ï¿œYou just can't compare these big, heavy, blunt SUVs
> > > > to cars. ï¿œApples and oranges.
> >
> > > Gee, my less powerful little sports car gets to 60 as quickly as yours,
> > > and gets better mileage, too. Of course, it also isn't suitable for
> > > pulling a heavy boat trailer, so why bother mentioning it? Oh...you
> > > wanted us to know you had a plastic sports car!
> >
> > That's Harry, never miss an opportunity to be a true asshole....
>
> It's pretty funny... notice how he fails to mention exactly what "less
> powerful little sports car" he has? That's because if he really has
> one, it isn't nearly a 4.3 second car. Not taking anything away from
> small, nimble British or other marque sports cars, but they are
> typically 6-10 second cars. They are great fun to drive, but even a
> base Corvette will eat them alive on a track.
>
> But if he can post a pic of his chubby fingers holding a harry nametag
> with that little sports car in the background that has a 0-60 time of
> 4.5 seconds or less, I know we'd all like to see it!
It was just another of his long list of lies. Kind of a lobsta boat if
you will.
Harryk
Ahhh. I sold my Jag XK150S. It wasn't *fast* by today's standards, but
it sure was a lovely car and a lot of fun to drive. I was a big fan of
British sports cars for many years, even though most of them were not so
hot in the QC department. Had an MGA, a Triumph TR-4 IRS (a very solid
car), a Lotus Cortina, among others, in addition to the Jag. The MGA
probably was the prettiest car; the Lotus Cortina was the worst, in
terms of reliability. I bought the MGA well-used, and I got the troubles
with it I expected. And then some.
My current "less powerful than your 'vette sports car" is not British.
But it does get 33+ mpg at reasonable highway speeds, 28-29 mpg at
"higher" highway speeds, and will do 0-60 in under 5 seconds. Your
'vette might be a half to a quarter second quicker to 60, but, of
course, that depends somewhat on the skill of the driver. Same is true
on the track, of course. If whoever is driving that 'vette isn't good,
it's going to wallow and slipslide away.
It's not British or Japanese. :>) And, like your 'vette, is not suitable
for pulling a heavy boat trailer.
Harryk
Gosh...took five seconds to find a Brit sports car that accelerates as
quickly as your 'vette:
http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/carpages/supersports/supersports.html
iBoat
@mypacks.net says...
Lies, lies and more lies. Jack has posted a pic of his car, let's
compare....
iBoat
says...
Too bad you don't have one....
Jack.
> In article <96ejm7Fus...@mid.individual.net>, payer33...@mypacks.net
And it's a little slower and and gets about the same mileage as the
'vette. But didn't he write "my less powerful little sports car gets
to 60 as quickly as yours, and gets better mileage"? Now the best he
can do is google up a car he doesn't have that isn't as fast, and gets
about the same mileage. ~snerk~ You'd think he'd point us to the
website with the specs of the car he supposedly *does* have with those
performance parameters. Oops, the website and car would have to
exist.
Jack.
> In article <d92c4dda-9ac2-45e1-ba09-2ddae280b888
> @w4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, threepont...@live.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 22, 8:43 am, iBoat <ea...@pacs.net> wrote:
> > > In article <96e4snFfh...@mid.individual.net>, payer33...@mypacks.net
> > > says...
>
> > > > On 6/22/11 8:12 AM, Jack. wrote:
> > > > >> "John H" wrote in message
>
> > > > >>news:sk3tv6lc65urva2bu...@4ax.com...
>
> > > > >> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:26:15 -0500, Richard Casady
>
> > > > >>> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:40:48 -0400, Wayne B
> > > > >>> <waynebatrecdotbo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H<salmonb...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
>
>
> > > > >>>>> Here is some good info on diesel prices.
>
> > > > >>>>>http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.com/diesel_fuel_prices.aspx
>
> > > > >>>>> Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up.
>
> > > > >>>> ===
>
> > > > >>>> Good information, thanks.
>
> > > > >>>> It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since
> > > > >>>> there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy
> > > > >>>> have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched
>
> > > > >>> Agent just ate my reply with a typo, and in 13 yeaars, I have never
> > > > >>> figured out how. Our Lincoln Navigator has four cams and 32 valves and
> > > > >>> only manages to get 14 at 70. The thing some real walnut trim,
> > > > >>> steering wheel, little plates containing the window and door lock
> > > > >>> switches. Nice looking. So, I sometimes call it:' The Sliverado.'
>
> > > > >>> Casady
>
> > > > >> My Silverado gets 14 mpg - when I'm pulling the travel trailer. But, that's
> > > > >> 40% better than my
> > > > >> 4Runner got, so I'm not complaining.
>
> > > > >> miles the best I ever got on a long trip was 16.5 mpg, and that was from Los
> > > > >> 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > of 190 mph. I'm getting 22 mpg around town and nearly 27 on the
> > > > > highway. Of course, it only weighs 3200 lbs and it's easy to push
> > > > > through the air. You just can't compare these big, heavy, blunt SUVs
> > > > > to cars. Apples and oranges.
>
> > > > Gee, my less powerful little sports car gets to 60 as quickly as yours,
> > > > and gets better mileage, too. Of course, it also isn't suitable for
> > > > pulling a heavy boat trailer, so why bother mentioning it? Oh...you
> > > > wanted us to know you had a plastic sports car!
>
> > > That's Harry, never miss an opportunity to be a true asshole....
>
> > It's pretty funny... notice how he fails to mention exactly what "less
> > powerful little sports car" he has? That's because if he really has
> > one, it isn't nearly a 4.3 second car. Not taking anything away from
> > small, nimble British or other marque sports cars, but they are
> > typically 6-10 second cars. They are great fun to drive, but even a
> > base Corvette will eat them alive on a track.
>
> > But if he can post a pic of his chubby fingers holding a harry nametag
> > with that little sports car in the background that has a 0-60 time of
> > 4.5 seconds or less, I know we'd all like to see it!
>
> It was just another of his long list of lies. Kind of a lobsta boat if
> you will.
Are you saying it's a custom built, Zimmerman-like sports car? Yeah,
that's the ticket...
Harryk
You commented about "British" sports cars and how most of them were
lacking in performance. I pointed you to one of many that is not lacking.
I see no reason to mention the brand names here of current cars,
motorbikes, boats, et cetera. BTW, I'm pretty sure my motorbike will
out-accelerate your 'vette to 60 mph and some ways beyond.
Jack.
You mentioned owning a "little" sports car that had less power and got
better mileage with the same acceleration as my Corvette. You also
said it wasn't British or Japanese. That pretty much leaves French,
German, or Italian. The closest thing would be a Z4 or a Boxster/
Cayman. All fine cars, except they all fall short in one area or
another compared to your make-believe sports car. They are either
slower, or if they are nearly as fast, get the same or worse mileage.
I owned a Boxster S, remember? Face it, your supposed sports car
doesn't exist in your garage or likely in the real world.
>
> I see no reason to mention the brand names here of current cars,
> motorbikes, boats, et cetera. BTW, I'm pretty sure my motorbike will
> out-accelerate your 'vette to 60 mph and some ways beyond.
That would be your Zimmerman-like bike, right?
Thanks for reminding us all how you've done, and are continuing to do,
your best to trash this NG.
cya
HarryK
Asshole, no it is not a Zimmerman-Like bike. It is a custom bike built
by Orange County Choppers. It was built for a charity auction, and I
decided I had to have it.
iBoat
@mypacks.net says...
If you had one. You see, you don't realize this because you're stupid,
but in the past, the things that you really DO own, if someone called
you on it, you'd offer up a picture in a heart beat. And when you don't
really have something, no picture. You're too easy to read, so you get
caught in your lies.
Harryk
They fall short, eh? Well, you're just not up to speed. At least one of
them accelerates just about as quickly as your 'vette, 0-60 at between
4.5 and 4.9 seconds, and with better mileage.
Hey, I know several people who like 'vettes. I've never been a fan; I've
always found them to be hard-riding, with not that impressive interiors.
But they do give you a big bang for the buck, if you like that sort of
thing.
Harryk
>> I see no reason to mention the brand names here of current cars,
>> motorbikes, boats, et cetera. BTW, I'm pretty sure my motorbike will
>> out-accelerate your 'vette to 60 mph and some ways beyond.
>
>
> That would be your Zimmerman-like bike, right?
Nope, it's Italian, and it's very fast. Faster than your pushrod V8 hawg
car under many conditions, I am sure, though I'm not a skillful enough
rider to wring its best out of it.
I can't do this, but I've seen tests of the same model I have run the
quarter mile in a hair over 10 seconds, with a terminal velocity of 145
mph. How's that hawg 'vette do in the quarter mile?
iBoat
@mypacks.net says...
>
> On 6/22/11 3:30 PM, Jack. wrote:
>
> >> I see no reason to mention the brand names here of current cars,
> >> motorbikes, boats, et cetera. BTW, I'm pretty sure my motorbike will
> >> out-accelerate your 'vette to 60 mph and some ways beyond.
> >
> >
> > That would be your Zimmerman-like bike, right?
>
>
> Nope, it's Italian, and it's very fast. Faster than your pushrod V8 hawg
> car under many conditions, I am sure, though I'm not a skillful enough
> rider to wring its best out of it.
>
> I can't do this, but I've seen tests of the same model I have run the
> quarter mile in a hair over 10 seconds, with a terminal velocity of 145
> mph. How's that hawg 'vette do in the quarter mile?
Bullshit, YOU said right here last year that you bought a Kawasaki....
HarryK
> On 6/22/11 3:30 PM, Jack. wrote:
>
>>> I see no reason to mention the brand names here of current cars,
>>> motorbikes, boats, et cetera. BTW, I'm pretty sure my motorbike will
>>> out-accelerate your 'vette to 60 mph and some ways beyond.
>>
>>
>> That would be your Zimmerman-like bike, right?
>
>
> Nope, it's Italian, and it's very fast. Faster than your pushrod V8 hawg
> car under many conditions, I am sure, though I'm not a skillful enough
> rider to wring its best out of it.
>
> I can't do this, but I've seen tests of the same model I have run the
> quarter mile in a hair over 10 seconds, with a terminal velocity of 145
> mph. How's that hawg 'vette do in the quarter mile?
>
>
>
For all those assholes who didn't think I had a few more tricks up my
sleeve, I decided it was time to pull out the story of my high
performance sports car. Stick that where the sun don't shine.
emde...@hush.com
wrote:
A big, powerful engine, big wide tires, noisy muffler = small penis.
Harryk
That's our boy Jack...
Wayne B
>>Hey, I know several people who like 'vettes. I've never been a fan; I've
>>always found them to be hard-riding, with not that impressive interiors.
>>But they do give you a big bang for the buck, if you like that sort of
>>thing.
>
>A big, powerful engine, big wide tires, noisy muffler = small penis.
=====
Don't talk to Harry about small weenies. He's sensitive.
Some time ago a fellow named Ray Harry Krause was convicted in Florida
of exposing himself to a bus load of school children (true story).
Prosecutors had a difficult time with the case because all of the
witnesses said they really couldn't see anything even though his
raincoat was wide open.
Harryk
You're really a horse's ass, w'hine. I'm sure I can find someone with a
name similar to yours who is an even lower low-life than you are.
Perhaps you'll run hard aground on a reef in Long Island Sound, punch a
hole in the bottom of that clapped-out old trawler, and have it sink out
from underneath you.
I_am_Tosk
waynebatr...@hotmail.com says...
having all of them on filter helps a lot...
--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!
Harryk
If only you could figure out the filter system but...of course...you can't.
emde...@hush.com
Actually, I think you're the one who's sensitive. The post wasn't
directed at you, unless you're Jack. Yet, you replied. One wonders.
emde...@hush.com
wrote:
>On 6/22/11 6:27 PM, Wayne B wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:56:02 -0700, emde...@hush.com wrote:
>>
>>>> Hey, I know several people who like 'vettes. I've never been a fan; I've
>>>> always found them to be hard-riding, with not that impressive interiors.
>>>> But they do give you a big bang for the buck, if you like that sort of
>>>> thing.
>>>
>>> A big, powerful engine, big wide tires, noisy muffler = small penis.
>>
>> =====
>>
>> Don't talk to Harry about small weenies. He's sensitive.
>>
>> Some time ago a fellow named Ray Harry Krause was convicted in Florida
>> of exposing himself to a bus load of school children (true story).
>>
>> Prosecutors had a difficult time with the case because all of the
>> witnesses said they really couldn't see anything even though his
>> raincoat was wide open.
>>
>
>
>You're really a horse's ass, w'hine. I'm sure I can find someone with a
>name similar to yours who is an even lower low-life than you are.
>
>Perhaps you'll run hard aground on a reef in Long Island Sound, punch a
>hole in the bottom of that clapped-out old trawler, and have it sink out
>from underneath you.
Like John Wayne Gacy?
Harryk
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:18:41 -0700, emde...@hush.com wrote:
>
>> Actually, I think you're the one who's sensitive. The post wasn't
>> directed at you, unless you're Jack. Yet, you replied. One wonders.
>
> ex-Democratic congressman from NY to send you some pictures.
>
The ones your wife asked him for?
HarryK
> On 6/22/11 6:27 PM, Wayne B wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:56:02 -0700, emde...@hush.com wrote:
>>
>>>> Hey, I know several people who like 'vettes. I've never been a fan;
>>>> I've
>>>> always found them to be hard-riding, with not that impressive
>>>> interiors.
>>>> But they do give you a big bang for the buck, if you like that sort of
>>>> thing.
>>>
>>> A big, powerful engine, big wide tires, noisy muffler = small penis.
>>
>> =====
>>
>> Don't talk to Harry about small weenies. He's sensitive.
>>
>> Some time ago a fellow named Ray Harry Krause was convicted in Florida
>> of exposing himself to a bus load of school children (true story).
>>
>> Prosecutors had a difficult time with the case because all of the
>> witnesses said they really couldn't see anything even though his
>> raincoat was wide open.
>>
>
>
> You're really a horse's ass, w'hine. I'm sure I can find someone with a
> name similar to yours who is an even lower low-life than you are.
>
> Perhaps you'll run hard aground on a reef in Long Island Sound, punch a
> hole in the bottom of that clapped-out old trawler, and have it sink out
> from underneath you.
If you don't enjoy this type of childish name calling, please come visit
my Google Group where we discuss motorcycles and recipes.
L G
Wayne B
>Actually, I think you're the one who's sensitive. The post wasn't
>directed at you, unless you're Jack. Yet, you replied. One wonders.
No need to wonder. I'll get my friend Weiner the weenie,
L G
> it sure was a lovely car and a lot of fun to drive. I was a big fan of
> British sports cars for many years, even though most of them were not
> so hot in the QC department. Had an MGA, a Triumph TR-4 IRS (a very
> solid car), a Lotus Cortina, among others, in addition to the Jag. The
> MGA probably was the prettiest car; the Lotus Cortina was the worst,
> in terms of reliability. I bought the MGA well-used, and I got the
> troubles with it I expected. And then some.
>
> My current "less powerful than your 'vette sports car" is not British.
> But it does get 33+ mpg at reasonable highway speeds, 28-29 mpg at
> "higher" highway speeds, and will do 0-60 in under 5 seconds. Your
> 'vette might be a half to a quarter second quicker to 60, but, of
> course, that depends somewhat on the skill of the driver. Same is true
> on the track, of course. If whoever is driving that 'vette isn't good,
> it's going to wallow and slipslide away.
>
> It's not British or Japanese. :>) And, like your 'vette, is not
>
>
>
Bullshit.
L G
emde...@hush.com
I'm sure you have a good connection for other people's man parts.
Califbill
news:12928390-53c1-4436...@22g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
Reply:
Not really. My 1964 SS Impala was no where as streamlined as a Vette. My
1964 Vette Coupe got about 18 on the highway. was a 375 hp fuelie. Got
about 8 when racing it in SCCA as a B-Prod car. Was very competitive. My
7700# crewcab Duramax gets about 19 on the freeway and about 16 around town.
Not anymore aerodynamic than my 1999 Expedition. My 1968 POS 383 Charger
got about 16.5 on the freeway as well as about 20,000 miles per brake drum.
I just say there should be a hell of a lot better mileage than they are
getting at Ford. my truck has averaged 14.5 mpg for the 116k miles I have
put on it. That includes towing a boat with and without camper installed.
A drive to Alaska with camper, and going over 8-9000' mountains while towing
and not towing. Pretty dang good.
Jay
> In article<96e4sn...@mid.individual.net>, payer...@mypacks.net
> says...
>>
>> On 6/22/11 8:12 AM, Jack. wrote:
>> and gets better mileage, too. Of course, it also isn't suitable for
>> pulling a heavy boat trailer, so why bother mentioning it? Oh...you
>> wanted us to know you had a plastic sports car!
>
Funny he's never mentioned having a sports car before.
Jay
Still looking for a penis that's just right for you, Deplume? How many
have you tried on so far, Deplume?
Jay
Of one thing we are certain. He does have a coffee maker and a grungy sink.
Jay
He did show pictures of his Maryland red barn, didn't he? Do you really
want him to post snapshots of everything he owns?
Jack.
> In article <fdSdndbRd5YxzZ_TnZ2dnUVZ_jCdn...@earthlink.com>, payer33859
And that was probably a lie as well. As many times as he's said that
no one needs or should have a high perfomance boat, car, etc., you can
be sure he didn't buy a high performance bike or sports car. And if
he did, em would be along in a minute questioning his manhood, right?
This is really some high-dollar entertainment, and for free! :->
Harryk
Actually, I did buy a Kawasaki, I kept it for a while, more than a year,
and then I sold it to buy an Italian bike, which was my first
preference, but I didn't want to make that sort of investment until I
determined whether I'd still enjoy motorcycling.
My guess is that my non-British sports car accelerates about as fast as
your 'vette, and that you have 10-15 mph top end on me. Maybe, if your
valve train can actually take it. I know my non-Japanese Italian
motorcycle will out-accelerate your 'vette on the straights and in the
right driver's hands (not mine, to be sure), blow you right off any real
sports car racing track. I know that because a model similar to what I
have has been raced against Ferrari's and Lamborghini's and has come out
on top...with a pro motorcycle racer doing the driving.
iBoat
Yeah, sure. You sure can cover up your lies well, or at least you try
hard. If you want to save face, post a picture of it in front of your
new boat with the twin diesels.....
Jack.
LOL! Those are some serious feelings of inadequacy you have, krause!
Too funny!
Write up some more funny stuff boasting about things you've never done
or owned to make yourself seem more important to us. Come on, this is
great! Set the fiction writer in you free! Haha!!!
HarryK
You can tell how much I enjoy both boating and riding my high
performance motorcycle, by the time I actually use either of them. I
hope no one starts to track my posts again where it showed I never was
away from my computer for more than an hour. Damn that was embarrassing.
Harryk
Inadequacy? You mean because I wanted to "experiment" with an
inexpensive motorcycle before I bought an expensive one? Many years ago,
while in college, I suffered a neck/back injury that was severe enough
to make it impossible for me to ride the motorcycle I had at that time,
a two cylinder Honda. I had to sell the bike. I was fairly certain the
injury over the years healed properly and that I could ride a motorcycle
again. So I spent a small amount of money on a Kawasaki to see if I
would be able to ride reasonable distances, up to a couple of hundred
miles. After messing around with the bike locally, one morning I drove
off to Virginia Beach and back. It was a successful trip, neck and back
wise, as it were, so I seriously began considering getting the bike I
really wanted. Simple enough.
Or do you think I am feeling "inadequate" because I'm not ashamed to
admit I am *not* a skilled professional motorcycle racer? Well, I'm not.
Driving a motorcycle around a sports car track at 160+ mph is not
something I would do. But...a bit of stoplight drag racing against
snotnoses like you in 'vettes? Absolutely. Actually, I haven't had the
pleasure with a 'vette, but I have had some fun with boy racers in V8
Mustangs, Chryslers, and BMWs. When they finally pull up next to me at
the next traffic light and say, "What the hell is that?" I have the
pleasure of saying, "It's just my Duc, a little Italian motorcycle."
And it's not even the "hot" model.
Nothing against your 'vette...nice car, but not my taste. Too big, and I
don't much like the interiors.
Jack.
> In article <tJCdnVselepmpp7TnZ2dnUVZ_r2dn...@earthlink.com>, payer33859
Hey! He has a "non-British sports car" and a "non-Japanese Italian
motorcycle"! Don't you dare make fun of him! LOL!
HarryK
LOL, I make myself giggle when I read my posts.
Harryk
And you have a boat and car I wouldn't even consider owning. Yawn.
Jack.
Just for you... some Aldo Nova:
Summer breeze makes you feel alright
Neon lights shining brightly make your brain ignite
See the girls with the dresses so tight
Give you love if the price is right
Black or white
In the streets there's no wrong and no right
so forget all that you see
It's not reality
It's just a fantasy
Can't you see
What this crazy life is doing to me
Life is just a fantasy
Can you live this fantasy life
Outasite
Buy your kicks from the man in the white
Feels alright
Powder pleasure in your nose tonight
See the men paint their faces and cry
Like some girl it makes you wonder why
City life sure is cool
But It cuts like a knife
It's your life
"it's just my Duc" you owe me a new keyboard! LMAO!
Harryk
It's actually the second one I've owned. I owned a Ducati Diana for a
while in the 1960's. Bought it third-hand for $250.
iBoat
Man, Harry sure is trying to cover that lie up!! He's working harder
than a cat with diarrhea trying to cover it's shit!
iBoat
@b21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, threep...@live.com says...
>
> On Jun 23, 10:16ï¿œam, Harryk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> > On 6/23/11 9:58 AM, Jack. wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >> On 6/23/11 8:52 AM, Jack. wrote:
> >
> > >>>> In article<fdSdndbRd5YxzZ_TnZ2dnUVZ_jCdn...@earthlink.com>, payer33859
> > >>>> @mypacks.net says...
> >
> > >>>>> On 6/22/11 3:30 PM, Jack. wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>> I see no reason to mention the brand names here of current cars,
> > >>>>>>> motorbikes, boats, et cetera. BTW, I'm pretty sure my motorbike will
> > >>>>>>> out-accelerate your 'vette to 60 mph and some ways beyond.
> >
> > >>>>>> That would be your Zimmerman-like bike, right?
> >
> > >>>>> Nope, it's Italian, and it's very fast. Faster than your pushrod V8 hawg
> > >>>>> car under many conditions, I am sure, though I'm not a skillful enough
> > >>>>> rider to wring its best out of it.
> >
> > >>>>> I can't do this, but I've seen tests of the same model I have run the
> > >>>>> quarter mile in a hair over 10 seconds, with a terminal velocity of 145
> > >>>>> mph. How's that hawg 'vette do in the quarter mile?
> >
> > >>>> Bullshit, YOU said right here last year that you bought a Kawasaki....
> >
> > >>> no one needs or should have a high perfomance boat, car, etc., you can
> > >>> he did, em would be along in a minute questioning his manhood, right?
> >
> >
> > >> Actually, I did buy a Kawasaki, I kept it for a while, more than a year,
> > >> and then I sold it to buy an Italian bike, which was my first
> > >> preference, but I didn't want to make that sort of investment until I
> > >> determined whether I'd still enjoy motorcycling.
> >
> > >> My guess is that my non-British sports car accelerates about as fast as
> > >> your 'vette, and that you have 10-15 mph top end on me. Maybe, if your
> > >> valve train can actually take it. I know my non-Japanese Italian
> > >> motorcycle will out-accelerate your 'vette on the straights and in the
> > >> right driver's hands (not mine, to be sure), blow you right off any real
> > >> sports car racing track. I know that because a model similar to what I
> > >> have has been raced against Ferrari's and Lamborghini's and has come out
> > >> on top...with a pro motorcycle racer doing the driving.
> >
> > > Too funny!
> >
> > > Write up some more funny stuff boasting about things you've never done
> > > great! ï¿œSet the fiction writer in you free! ï¿œHaha!!!
Are you saying that you think Harry's not being honest?? Sure would like
to see a picture of that motorcycle beside the new boat!!! Or in his
driveway would be better, seeing that he's shown a picture of his house.
Jay
I_am_Tosk
heh.. I haven't seen much of it since I did a total kf the other day
using the sprint card, watching the data limit;) Added Harry, and his
clone, Don and his clone, JPS, Bob, and the three (? I think) stalkers
who only answer them. Now I get you, wayne, and a couple others only..
Real time saver;)
--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!
Harryk
You're using a cell phone to read usenet?
I tried that as a giggle a few times, since I have an unlimited data
plan, but it was a pain in the ass.
John H
'Vettes don't make very good prime movers of 5th wheel trailers. But, they are cute little buggers.
If I could fit in one, I'd have a Mazda Miata, or whatever they're called now.