Community organization is nothing new
TopBassDog
Hitler had his organizers (Brown Shirts) too!
http://www.trib.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_fae3035b-aae6-5f17-9381-c46501f759b0.html
And not much unlike ACORN.
NowNow
@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, topba...@gmail.com says...
>
> Hitler had his organizers (Brown Shirts) too!
>
> http://www.trib.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_fae3035b-aae6-5f17-9381-c46501f759b0.html
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> And not much unlike ACORN.
Unlike the right wing, who couldn't care less about the common man's
community.
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Not...@noway.com says...
Oh, I get it. Unhinged is ok if it comes from your side.. Thanks for
setting us straight on that...
NowNow
justwaitaf...@gmail.com says...
What is unhinged about one statement?
nom=de=plume
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> Hitler had his organizers (Brown Shirts) too!
>
> http://www.trib.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_fae3035b-aae6-5f17-9381-c46501f759b0.html
>
> And not much unlike ACORN.
Jesus was a community organizer. Why don't you compare Him to Hitler...
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Jesus was a community organizer?
NAS Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the
earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
NAS Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own
father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes,
and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.
NAS Mark 6:4 Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor
except in his hometown and among his own relatives and in his own
household."
NAS Matthew 8:4 And Jesus *said to him, "See that you tell no one; but
go, show yourself to the priest and present the offering that Moses
commanded, as a testimony to them."
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nom=de=plume
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> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:59:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"TopBassDog" <topba...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:7f2bfebd-2d12-4b58...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Hitler had his organizers (Brown Shirts) too!
>>>
>>> http://www.trib.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_fae3035b-aae6-5f17-9381-c46501f759b0.html
>>>
>>> And not much unlike ACORN.
>>
>>
>>Jesus was a community organizer. Why don't you compare Him to Hitler...
>
> Jesus was a community organizer?
>
> NAS Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the
> earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
>
> NAS Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own
> father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes,
> and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.
>
> NAS Mark 6:4 Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor
> except in his hometown and among his own relatives and in his own
> household."
>
> NAS Matthew 8:4 And Jesus *said to him, "See that you tell no one; but
> go, show yourself to the priest and present the offering that Moses
> commanded, as a testimony to them."
All taken out of context. But, if you believe that He was more interested in
profit than people, I'm not sure what I can add.
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jps
What purpose do the bible quotes serve?
Do they refute his reputation as a leader and organizer?
Is this some of that born-again bible interpretation where anything
can be construed to support whatever?
My questions are rhetorical of course. Your comments are welcome if
you're enjoying my rant.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
Any passage or quote taken out of an extant text can be said to be out
of context. What may be more accurate is to say that I provided no
extensive excerpts to provide additional context. That being said,
though, if Jesus were a community organizer, you should be able to
provide those passages that qualifiably make that case. Alternately,
I can make the case that Christ was removed from this world before the
Christian community was "organized" by the apostles and His disciples.
In the truest since of the word, Christ was a "revolutionary," not a
community organizer.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
Erratum: "truest since" should obviously be "truest sense."
nom=de=plume
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There was no such phrase in those times, as you know. Feel free to tell me
how bad a community organizer is if that's your intention. I don't need to
"provide" passages, and if you knew better, you wouldn't ask. It's a
completely ingenuous argument.
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jpj...@psbnewton.com
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
I'm not quite sure what you mean by all of this. There is a panoply
of theological terms, or phrases, that certainly didn't exist in the
time of Christ that are used to describe particular premises,
doctrines, tenets, and manifestations in Biblical scripture. This
fact doesn't detract from the validity of those scriptural components.
Though, "no such phrase" may not have been employed in those days, it
doesn't take away from the fact there may have been community
organizers. In fact, the Apostle Paul comes very close to fitting the
definition. This also is not to suggest that a community organizer is
anathema. What I find offensive is any attempt to describe Christ as
a community organizer in order to elevate the vocation to lofty
heights. Jesus Christ simply was not a community organizer. If
anything, he served as a contrary example. If it is a legitimate
exercise to describe Christ as community organizer, then it's
legitimacy can be adduced from the time-honored canon of writings from
which excerpts can be submitted to buttress the assertion.
jps
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
Nah, he didn't do any organizing. He just had those guys surrounding
him for playing cards and partying. Religion and faith in a belief
certainly couldn't be characterized by community, could it?
Loose bible interpretations are part and parcel of the evangelical
movement. I could quote several passages that could easily be
interpretted to mean Jesus was gay or believed in guns.
Revolutionary? Like Trotsky or Lenin? Did they organize people
around ideas? Oh yeah. Were people motivated to believe in and act
on behalf of one or the other? Oh yeah. Isn't that how Trotsky ended
up witn an ice pick in his forehead while living in Mexico?
Now how did Jesus die and for what? Not organizing around a set of
ideas?
nom=de=plume
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No, it's being used derisively by the right to justify obstructionism.
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jps
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>What I find offensive is any attempt to describe Christ as
>> a community organizer in order to elevate the vocation to lofty
>> heights.
Yes, unless it was a Republican who was elected President after having
served his community in a way that helped them deal with their daily
lives.
Then you'd be perfectly happy with the comparison.
Tim
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:00:42 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>
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> <nom...@plume.invalid> wrote:
> ><jpj...@psbnewton.com> wrote in message
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> >> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:59:50 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> >> <nom...@plume.invalid> wrote:
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> >>><jpj...@psbnewton.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:ir9bg55003or5vckj...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:59:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>
> >>>>>"TopBassDog" <topbass...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:7f2bfebd-2d12-4b58...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
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> >>>>>> Hitler had his organizers (Brown Shirts) too!
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> - Show quoted text -
Trotsky was killed by a blow to the back of the head with a cut down
Ice "hatchet" and the wound wasn't imediatly fatal. ie he didn't die
on the spot.
YOu should know how Jesus died, and the reason. It wasn't for partying
and playing cards,.
?;^ )
jpj...@psbnewton.com
wrote:
It's worth noting the ease with which anyone can assert that Jesus was
a community organizer as opposed to submitting any scriptural evidence
to support the claim. But, you are right, what is crucially important
is that Christ died that the individual might be reconciled with God,
and that having been done out of a true compassion. And what He
endured to ensure that end illustrates that love. I think one of the
reasons that I tend to detest any description of Christ as a community
organizer, aside from the reason I've stated already, is that it takes
away from what Christ was and is. It installs His divinity in a
secular compartment, for lack of a better way of putting it.
jps
wrote:
>On Nov 19, 9:46�pm, jps <tr...@thedump.com> wrote:
Jesus died for your sins.
I think he was doing some organizing of sorts. Spreading ideas to
modernize the temple. A rabble rouser.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
So, I take it that you decline to submit evidential material to
confirm his role as a community organizer?
H the K
> So, I take it that you decline to submit evidential material to
> confirm his role as a community organizer?
Jesus can be whatever you want..., just as "the bible" can prove or
disprove any belief you have.
As an example, to me, if he existed at all, Jesus was a pretty cool dude
with some socially acceptable ideas about his fellow man who spent his
life preaching his vision of Judaism to Jews in the general area in
which he supposedly lived, and who had no idea or desire to convert Jews
or pagans to a new religion. As with every other religion, Christianity
is a creation of man.
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well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I
don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As
always, have a nice, simple-minded day.
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<groun...@snerkville.com> wrote:
>On 11/20/09 1:19 PM, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>
>> So, I take it that you decline to submit evidential material to
>> confirm his role as a community organizer?
>
>
>Jesus can be whatever you want..., just as "the bible" can prove or
>disprove any belief you have.
>
>As an example, to me, if he existed at all, Jesus was a pretty cool dude
>with some socially acceptable ideas about his fellow man who spent his
>life preaching his vision of Judaism to Jews in the general area in
>which he supposedly lived, and who had no idea or desire to convert Jews
>or pagans to a new religion. As with every other religion, Christianity
>is a creation of man.
If Jesus was a pretty cool dude, then he's so simply because you've
created Him that way in your own mind?
nom=de=plume
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It's not my job to satisfy your desire to shift the discussion from the
right using that phrase derisively against Obama to my ability to do
biblical research.
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> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:31:32 -0500, H the K
> <groun...@snerkville.com> wrote:
>
>>On 11/20/09 1:19 PM, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>>
>>> So, I take it that you decline to submit evidential material to
>>> confirm his role as a community organizer?
>>
>>
>>Jesus can be whatever you want..., just as "the bible" can prove or
>>disprove any belief you have.
>>
>>As an example, to me, if he existed at all, Jesus was a pretty cool dude
>>with some socially acceptable ideas about his fellow man who spent his
>>life preaching his vision of Judaism to Jews in the general area in
>>which he supposedly lived, and who had no idea or desire to convert Jews
>>or pagans to a new religion. As with every other religion, Christianity
>>is a creation of man.
>
> If Jesus was a pretty cool dude, then he's so simply because you've
> created Him that way in your own mind?
Can't speak for Harry, but He was a "cool dude" because of his message of
peace, acceptance, and healing.
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jps
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
Serial deflector, he is. Forget cogency in debating him. He likes to
jump tracks to gain advantage. Can't face issues head on.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
His message like this?
NAS Mark 9:19 And He *answered them and *said, "O unbelieving
generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up with
you? Bring him to Me!"
jpj...@psbnewton.com
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
My desire is to see Christ described accurately, not as a community
organizer.
Candy Man
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Dude, he posed a question about Jesus being a community organizer. Its you
and Nom that are dodging the issue. It looks to me like he's miles ahead.
jps
Sock Puppet: He's miles ahead into fantasyland. Asking for quotes
from the bible that proves Jesus was a community organizer?
Are you common sense challenged too? Do you need to parse the
syllables to get to the true meaning?
Why not just post under your normal handle? Promised to leave?
Plonked by most who've known you previously?
John H
You would think that once she called your argument 'ingenuous', you
would be quite satisfied to have proven your point.
Was that a Freudian slip? Only the Shadow knows.
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nom=de=plume
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As I said... out of context. You're starting to sound silly. If you don't
like Jesus' message, why not just say so.
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No... the original issue was the rights insistence that community organizing
is somehow a bad thing. It looks like you were left in the dust.
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He organized and had followers. Are you denying this? They were from the
Jewish community. Are you denying this?
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In your case, nobody knows.
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jps
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
Christ described accurately. What a laugh.
What makes you think your understanding of Christ is the one true
interpretation?
He wasn't even a Christian dude, he was Jewish. Born, lived, died.
All of his followers were Jewish. They all attended Temple,
celebrated the Sabbath, Passover, The New Year and the Harvest.
Guess what? There was no Easter!
The son of God but god himself! Virgin birth! Walked on water!
Turned water into wine? Oh no, that wasn't him. He cured leprosy and
came back from the dead. It's true, it's true!
He sure as hell wasn't a Teutonic blonde. What picture do you have of
him in your house? I'm sure the depiction is equal to your "official"
understanding of him.
Yikes.
nom=de=plume
I could never quite get a handle on Easter... even as a child. I asked my
mom .. why do eggs come out of a bunny? Now I wonder why we have little
children run around looking for them.
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jpj...@psbnewton.com
wrote:
That's why I iterated that I wasn't quite sure what she meant. These
folks also don't seem to know the definition of a community organizer
or a revolutionary. They're working with presuppositional definitions
that they deem free of defect. This might help the wayward
antagonist, though;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Organizer
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/revolutionary
jps
Bait and switch. By the time you start feeling embarassed to hunt for
eggs, you've been indoctrinated and have a strange feeling that Easter
is a wonderful holiday...
Never too old for chocolate eggs.
Candy Man
Defensive, are we? You said that he was deflecting. But now its that you
don't know enough about the about the bible to prove that Jesus was a
community organizer. You've been taken to the wood shed and Nom too.
Neither of you know enough to prove your point. You both say that its this
way or that way and neither of you can back it up. Plonk away now that
you've been schooled.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
You don't seem to know what His message is. And I'm certain that you
are unable to articulate what the context of Mark 9:19 is.
Candy Man
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I'm sure you're able to tell us. In any case, this has nothing to do with
the vitriol from the right. Or, maybe it does.
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nom=de=plume
> Your like Zeitgeist lite but even more uninformed and manic about it.
Like wow. I'm so unimpressed.
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You're starting to sound like an apologist for the right nutcases.
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jpj...@psbnewton.com
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
Hopefully you're not ready to venture into the ignoble domain of the
circumstantial ad hominem. Few go there and return to the land of
reason.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
As should be obvious, my apologetics are centered elsewhere.
Now for the occasionally indolent reader that may chance upon this
post, here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia article;
"Community organizing is a process by which people living in proximity
to each other are brought together in an organization to act in their
shared self-interest. Unlike other forms of more consensual "community
building," community organizers generally assume that social change
necessarily involves conflict and social struggle in order to generate
collective power for the powerless. A core goal of community
organizing is to generate durable power for an organization
representing the community, allowing it to influence key
decision-makers on a range of issues over time. In the ideal, for
example, this can get community organizing groups a place at the table
before important decisions are made.[1] Community organizers work with
and develop new local leaders, facilitating coalitions and assisting
in the development of campaigns."
jps
<Sweet...@Confectionary.net> wrote:
You're living a fantasy with the insurance salesman. Do you really
think it's that important to prove Jesus was a community organizer to
a serial deflector who'll skirt every communication that doesn't suit
his argument? Are you another of the sour grapes dweebs who cannot
stand our President compared to Jesus?
Ever hear the story about the bible quoting contest in Mississippi
where the runner up went to the winner's house and shot him to death?
Why are you posting as a sock puppet? Didn't like the first time I
plonked you for being a fool?
jps
Maybe he'll look up zeitgeist prior to using it next time. If I
represent the zeitgeist, the conservative cause is going down the
tubes with their pseudo morals and ethics.
From his lips to God's ears.
jps
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
Oh Golly, several things come to mind.
Fanatic. Pat Robertson. American Taliban.
John H
Oh, they know the difference, and it has nothing to do with the
presuppositional definitions. I believe it has to do with nothing more
than putting down Christianity any time they see an opportunity.
None of them has yet responded to this post:
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Here are some quotes from The Man Himself, Obama:
*************************************************************
"I am a Christian. I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe
that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that
there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people."
"Alongside my own deep personal faith, I am a follower, as well, of
our civic religion,"
Obama boasts of a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ."
Obama says he prays regularly. "It's not formal, me getting on my
knees. I think I have an ongoing conversation with God."
"When we abandon the field of religious discourse�when we ignore the
debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew;
when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it
should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it
tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away
from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that
we will be unwelcome�others will fill the vacuum. "
"We worship an awesome God in the blue states and we don't like
federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states. "
"The audacity of hope! In the end, that is God�s greatest gift to us,
the bedrock of this nation. A belief in things not seen. "
************************************************************************
I would guess that in your eyes, Obama must be a raging hypocrite, an
irrationale 'believer', or just a good liar.
Which is it?
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John H
<Sweet...@Confectionary.net> wrote:
The left-wing modus operandi.
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jpj...@psbnewton.com
<Sweet...@Confectionary.net> wrote:
There isn't much point in taking him to task. He's quick to make
charges of diversion; but, he's been caught using an array of informal
fallacies, begging the question, the strawman, the ignoratio elenchi,
the ad hominem, ad infinitum (that not being one, of course). It's a
never ending tailspin, and it always comes back to his antagonist. One
can only hope that eventually he'll see the wisdom in an honest
discourse.
Tim
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:58:38 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:34:21 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>
> >>>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:00:42 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> >>><nom...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>>><jpj...@psbnewton.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:u0tbg5p53o6om8flm...@4ax.com...
> >>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:59:50 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> >>>>> <nom...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>>>>><jpj...@psbnewton.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:ir9bg55003or5vckj...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:59:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>
> >>>>>>>>"TopBassDog" <topbass...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>news:7f2bfebd-2d12-4b58...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>>>>>> Hitler had his organizers (Brown Shirts) too!
>
John, I've not figured that out either.
John H
wrote:
Good morning! Your crap weather has not yet arrived. Looks like it
might get here Monday, just in time to screw up golf for the day.
DC is having a big gun show today. I'm thinking of going out and
exerting my Second Amendment rights, especially after all the talk of
9mm pistols a few days ago.
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jpj...@psbnewton.com
wrote:
What's righteous about this is that he pretends that I avoid
nettlesome posts. More accurately, I dismiss banal, inane, insipid
notes, for the most part. Your post is impressive, and I would think
that our brassy resident marxist would have the moxy to take it head
on.
achmed
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:18:14 -0800 (PST), Tim <tsch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 21, 6:49 am, John H <salmonb...@gmail.dotcom> wrote:
>
>>> Oh, they know the difference, and it has nothing to do with the
>>> presuppositional definitions. I believe it has to do with nothing more
>>> than putting down Christianity any time they see an opportunity.
>>>
>>> None of them has yet responded to this post:
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Here are some quotes from The Man Himself, Obama:
>>>
>>> *************************************************************
>>> "I am a Christian. I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe
>>> that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that
>>> there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people."
>>>
>>> "Alongside my own deep personal faith, I am a follower, as well, of
>>> our civic religion,"
>>>
>>> Obama boasts of a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ."
>>>
>>> Obama says he prays regularly. "It's not formal, me getting on my
>>> knees. I think I have an ongoing conversation with God."
>>>
>>> debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew;
>>> when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it
>>> should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it
>>> tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away
>>> from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that
>>>
>>> "We worship an awesome God in the blue states and we don't like
>>> federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states. "
>>>
>>> the bedrock of this nation. A belief in things not seen. "
>>> ************************************************************************
>>>
>>> I would guess that in your eyes, Obama must be a raging hypocrite, an
>>> irrationale 'believer', or just a good liar.
>>>
>>> Which is it?
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>>
>>> John H
>> John, I've not figured that out either.
>
> Good morning! Your crap weather has not yet arrived. Looks like it
> might get here Monday, just in time to screw up golf for the day.
>
> DC is having a big gun show today. I'm thinking of going out and
> exerting my Second Amendment rights, especially after all the talk of
> 9mm pistols a few days ago.
I bit the bullet (pun intended) and got a 92FS yesterday. The only
disappointing part was the plastic guide rod. The grip fits like a glove
in my hand. It's a beautifully made gun and its pretty to look at. The
226 felt like a rock in my hand and the decocker lever really sucked. I
didn't get to see the 75BD but the other CZs they had felt like the Sig.
Very disapointing. I'll keep looking for the 75BD and see if it feels
better than the others.
Tim
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:18:14 -0800 (PST), Tim <tschna...@gmail.com>
And a good morning to you, Sir!
Well the crap weather has moved out and for the last two days it's
been really frosty in the mornings but turning out to be in the high
50's and today will be in the low 60's. Hardly a cloud and bright
sun.
Ah.
We had a great local gun show, here a couple weeks ago and I took
advantage of it. Got some great deals on ammunition and picked up a
really nice M1-Carbine "Paratrooper"
hey! Get em while you can!
Tim
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:49:24 -0500, John H <salmonb...@gmail.dotcom>> >>On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:45:19 -0500, John H <salmonb...@gmail.dotcom>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:34:21 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>
> >>>>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:00:42 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> >>>><nom...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>>>><jpj...@psbnewton.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:u0tbg5p53o6om8flm...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:59:50 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
> >>>>>> <nom...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>><jpj...@psbnewton.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:ir9bg55003or5vckj...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:59:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>
> >>>>>>>>>"TopBassDog" <topbass...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>news:7f2bfebd-2d12-4b58...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hitler had his organizers (Brown Shirts) too!
>
Brassy resident marxist?
Which one?
Tim
> > wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 21, 6:49 am, John H <salmonb...@gmail.dotcom> wrote:
>
> >>> Oh, they know the difference, and it has nothing to do with the
> >>> presuppositional definitions. I believe it has to do with nothing more
> >>> than putting down Christianity any time they see an opportunity.
>
> >>> None of them has yet responded to this post:
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Here are some quotes from The Man Himself, Obama:
>
> >>> *************************************************************
> >>> "I am a Christian. I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe
> >>> that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that
> >>> there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people."
>
> >>> "Alongside my own deep personal faith, I am a follower, as well, of
> >>> our civic religion,"
>
> >>> Obama boasts of a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ."
>
> >>> Obama says he prays regularly. "It's not formal, me getting on my
> >>> knees. I think I have an ongoing conversation with God."
>
> >>> debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew;
> >>> when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it
> >>> should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it
> >>> tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away
> >>> from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that
>
> >>> "We worship an awesome God in the blue states and we don't like
> >>> federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states. "
>
> >>> the bedrock of this nation. A belief in things not seen. "
> >>> ************************************************************************
>
> >>> I would guess that in your eyes, Obama must be a raging hypocrite, an
> >>> irrationale 'believer', or just a good liar.
>
> >>> Which is it?
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> --
>
> >>> John H
> >> John, I've not figured that out either.
>
> > Good morning! Your crap weather has not yet arrived. Looks like it
> > might get here Monday, just in time to screw up golf for the day.
>
> > DC is having a big gun show today. I'm thinking of going out and
> > exerting my Second Amendment rights, especially after all the talk of
> > 9mm pistols a few days ago.
>
> I bit the bullet (pun intended) and got a 92FS yesterday. The only
> disappointing part was the plastic guide rod. The grip fits like a glove
> in my hand. It's a beautifully made gun and its pretty to look at. The
> 226 felt like a rock in my hand and the decocker lever really sucked. I
> didn't get to see the 75BD but the other CZs they had felt like the Sig.
> Very disapointing. I'll keep looking for the 75BD and see if it feels
> better than the others.
I have an R-61
http://www.sunblest.net/gun/FegR61.htm
It's actually a pretty well constructed firearm that's simple to
clean. It shoots well bt the triggers are really stiff ,but a gun
smiith took care of that. and I dont' mind the 9'mm Makarov round
either.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
wrote:
>On Nov 21, 7:24�am, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
I dunno, Tim. I was still half asleep this morning when I wrote this.
(My daughter is visiting from Cincy, and we went to the Elks last
night. I stayed up way too late.) But, I know that I didn't seperate
the adjectives by a comma as I should have, for one thing. I suppose
what I wanted to say was;
brazen, loud, clamorous, not-moving-on person who loathes the
"capitalist class"
I'd rather say all of that with three meager words, though. :>)
Candy Man
<jpj...@psbnewton.com> wrote in message
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errors of his ways.
H the K
>>>> debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew;
>>>> when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it
>>>> should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it
>>>> tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away
>>> >from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that
>>>
>>>> "We worship an awesome God in the blue states and we don't like
>>>> federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states. "
>>>
- - -
I doubt there are any "marxists" in rec.boats, brassy or otherwise.
There aren't even any Social Democrats.
There are a number of right-wing morons and loogy or whatever he calls
himself these days. He's the resident left-wing moron.
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If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting
your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because,
well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I
don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As
always, have a nice, simple-minded day.
Vic Smith
"Walk the plonk." hehe Good one.
--Vic
achmed
>
> I have an R-61
>
> http://www.sunblest.net/gun/FegR61.htm
>
> It's actually a pretty well constructed firearm that's simple to
> clean. It shoots well bt the triggers are really stiff ,but a gun
> smiith took care of that. and I dont' mind the 9'mm Makarov round
> either.
I had a bursa thunder, made in South America, that looked very similar
to yours. It shot very well and had a ton of nice features.
Unfortunately, it had serious wear problems and I decided to get rid of
it after 300 rds.
John H
>John H wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:18:14 -0800 (PST), Tim <tsch...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 21, 6:49 am, John H <salmonb...@gmail.dotcom> wrote:
>>
>>>> Oh, they know the difference, and it has nothing to do with the
>>>> presuppositional definitions. I believe it has to do with nothing more
>>>> than putting down Christianity any time they see an opportunity.
>>>>
>>>> None of them has yet responded to this post:
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Here are some quotes from The Man Himself, Obama:
>>>>
>>>> *************************************************************
>>>> "I am a Christian. I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe
>>>> that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that
>>>> there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people."
>>>>
>>>> "Alongside my own deep personal faith, I am a follower, as well, of
>>>> our civic religion,"
>>>>
>>>> Obama boasts of a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ."
>>>>
>>>> Obama says he prays regularly. "It's not formal, me getting on my
>>>> knees. I think I have an ongoing conversation with God."
>>>>
>>>> "When we abandon the field of religious discourse�when we ignore the
>>>> debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew;
>>>> when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it
>>>> should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it
>>>> tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away
>>>> from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that
>>>> we will be unwelcome�others will fill the vacuum. "
>>>>
>>>> "We worship an awesome God in the blue states and we don't like
>>>> federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states. "
>>>>
>>>> "The audacity of hope! In the end, that is God�s greatest gift to us,
>>>> the bedrock of this nation. A belief in things not seen. "
>>>> ************************************************************************
>>>>
>>>> I would guess that in your eyes, Obama must be a raging hypocrite, an
>>>> irrationale 'believer', or just a good liar.
>>>>
>>>> Which is it?
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> John H
>>> John, I've not figured that out either.
>>
>> Good morning! Your crap weather has not yet arrived. Looks like it
>> might get here Monday, just in time to screw up golf for the day.
>>
>> DC is having a big gun show today. I'm thinking of going out and
>> exerting my Second Amendment rights, especially after all the talk of
>> 9mm pistols a few days ago.
>
>I bit the bullet (pun intended) and got a 92FS yesterday. The only
>disappointing part was the plastic guide rod. The grip fits like a glove
>in my hand. It's a beautifully made gun and its pretty to look at. The
>226 felt like a rock in my hand and the decocker lever really sucked. I
>didn't get to see the 75BD but the other CZs they had felt like the Sig.
>Very disapointing. I'll keep looking for the 75BD and see if it feels
>better than the others.
I like the looks of it, especially the Inox version. But, I don't need
another pistol, even though I don't have a semi-auto. I'm staying away
from the big show.
--
John H
jps
<Sweet...@Confectionary.net> wrote:
Errors are your "opinion" since the book you're wallowing in is a
parable, not a historical document. It can be twisted to mean
anything as is evident in its use as a foil for gun ownership and
wars.
Neither of which Jesus would approve.
Carry on.
jps
wrote:
>On Nov 21, 6:49�am, John H <salmonb...@gmail.dotcom> wrote:
Did either of you ever do such figuring when GW Bush was in office?
Certainly nothing of note betrayed in rec.boats.
It's great that you've become men of consciousness. Bloody joke.
jps
wrote:
>On Nov 21, 7:23�am, John H <salmonb...@gmail.dotcom> wrote:
Which guns would Jesus buy?
Does Pat Robertson have any suggestions?
jps
wrote:
>> I dunno, Tim. I was still half asleep this morning when I wrote this.
>> (My daughter is visiting from Cincy, and we went to the Elks last
>> night. I stayed up way too late.) But, I know that I didn't seperate
>> the adjectives by a comma as I should have, for one thing. I suppose
>> what I wanted to say was;
>>
>> brazen, loud, clamorous, not-moving-on person who loathes the
>> "capitalist class"
I can best your ad-hominem spew to a single word to describe you.
I'm certain that those who surround you would agree.
H the K
Uh...how did I get into this one?
nom=de=plume
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> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:37:06 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:38:31 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:08:02 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>>>>> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>><jpj...@psbnewton.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:31:32 -0500, H the K
>>>>>>> <groun...@snerkville.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 11/20/09 1:19 PM, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> confirm his role as a community organizer?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>the vitriol from the right. Or, maybe it does.
>
> circumstantial ad hominem. Few go there and return to the land of
> reason.
Not sure what you're talking about. It's a fact that what I said was
accurate about the right. Don't you remember Rudy's little convention
speech.
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nom=de=plume
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> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:38:40 -0800, "nom=de=plume">>news:acleg5llsbu995202...@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:45:19 -0500, John H <salmo...@gmail.dotcom>>>>>>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:00:42 -0800, "nom=de=plume">>>>>>news:u0tbg5p53o6om8flm...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:59:50 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:59:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
>>>>>>>>> <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>news:7f2bfebd-2d12-4b58...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hitler had his organizers (Brown Shirts) too!
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>
> As should be obvious, my apologetics are centered elsewhere.
>
> Now for the occasionally indolent reader that may chance upon this
> post, here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia article;
>
> "Community organizing is a process by which people living in proximity
> to each other are brought together in an organization to act in their
> shared self-interest. Unlike other forms of more consensual "community
> building," community organizers generally assume that social change
> necessarily involves conflict and social struggle in order to generate
> collective power for the powerless. A core goal of community
> organizing is to generate durable power for an organization
> representing the community, allowing it to influence key
> decision-makers on a range of issues over time. In the ideal, for
> example, this can get community organizing groups a place at the table
> before important decisions are made.[1] Community organizers work with
> and develop new local leaders, facilitating coalitions and assisting
> in the development of campaigns."
Sounds like early Christianity to me.
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jpj...@psbnewton.com
NAS Luke 22:36 And He said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt
is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is
to sell his coat and buy one.
The sword - the personal weapon of the day.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
wrote:
>On 11/21/09 11:51 AM, jps wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:42:41 -0500, H the K<naled...@mypacks.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I dunno, Tim. I was still half asleep this morning when I wrote this.
>>>> (My daughter is visiting from Cincy, and we went to the Elks last
>>>> night. I stayed up way too late.) But, I know that I didn't seperate
>>>> the adjectives by a comma as I should have, for one thing. I suppose
>>>> what I wanted to say was;
>>>>
>>>> brazen, loud, clamorous, not-moving-on person who loathes the
>>>> "capitalist class"
>>
>> I can best your ad-hominem spew to a single word to describe you.
>>
>> I'm certain that those who surround you would agree.
>
>
>Uh...how did I get into this one?
It's that he finds my missives so unpalatable that he has me filtered,
and he uses others through which to carry on with the conversation.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
Em, the question has to do with whether or not Christ was a community
organizer. Though, what is described in this encyclopedic definition
does not parallel what is described or recorded of the early church.
Early Christianity was set apart from the community-at-large in nearly
all corners of the Roman empire.
H the K
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:04:41 -0500, H the K<naled...@mypacks.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/21/09 11:51 AM, jps wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:42:41 -0500, H the K<naled...@mypacks.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I dunno, Tim. I was still half asleep this morning when I wrote this.
>>>>> (My daughter is visiting from Cincy, and we went to the Elks last
>>>>> night. I stayed up way too late.) But, I know that I didn't seperate
>>>>> the adjectives by a comma as I should have, for one thing. I suppose
>>>>> what I wanted to say was;
>>>>>
>>>>> brazen, loud, clamorous, not-moving-on person who loathes the
>>>>> "capitalist class"
>>>
>>> I can best your ad-hominem spew to a single word to describe you.
>>>
>>> I'm certain that those who surround you would agree.
>>
>>
>> Uh...how did I get into this one?
>
> It's that he finds my missives so unpalatable that he has me filtered,
> and he uses others through which to carry on with the conversation.
>
Ahhh. Well, I don't go that far. I think you're just another right-wing
asshole.
H the K
Surely you are not connecting jesus with "early christianity." In the
lifetime of jesus, in the area where he lived and preached, there were
jews and there were pagans. There were no christians.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
wrote:
>On 11/21/09 2:10 PM, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:04:41 -0500, H the K<naled...@mypacks.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/21/09 11:51 AM, jps wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:42:41 -0500, H the K<naled...@mypacks.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I dunno, Tim. I was still half asleep this morning when I wrote this.
>>>>>> (My daughter is visiting from Cincy, and we went to the Elks last
>>>>>> night. I stayed up way too late.) But, I know that I didn't seperate
>>>>>> the adjectives by a comma as I should have, for one thing. I suppose
>>>>>> what I wanted to say was;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> brazen, loud, clamorous, not-moving-on person who loathes the
>>>>>> "capitalist class"
>>>>
>>>> I can best your ad-hominem spew to a single word to describe you.
>>>>
>>>> I'm certain that those who surround you would agree.
>>>
>>>
>>> Uh...how did I get into this one?
>>
>> It's that he finds my missives so unpalatable that he has me filtered,
>> and he uses others through which to carry on with the conversation.
>>
>
>
>Ahhh. Well, I don't go that far. I think you're just another right-wing
>asshole.
Thank-you, Harry, for facilitating the conversation.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
wrote:
>On 11/21/09 2:16 PM, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
Why should I need to reiterate the focus of the question? It has to
do with whether or not Christ was a community organizer. This is a
seperate issue as to any parallel of the encyclopedic description of
community organizing and early Christianity. Btw, the earliest
Christians were Jewish, exclusively.
jps
wrote:
>On 11/21/09 2:10 PM, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:04:41 -0500, H the K<naled...@mypacks.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/21/09 11:51 AM, jps wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:42:41 -0500, H the K<naled...@mypacks.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I dunno, Tim. I was still half asleep this morning when I wrote this.
>>>>>> (My daughter is visiting from Cincy, and we went to the Elks last
>>>>>> night. I stayed up way too late.) But, I know that I didn't seperate
>>>>>> the adjectives by a comma as I should have, for one thing. I suppose
>>>>>> what I wanted to say was;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> brazen, loud, clamorous, not-moving-on person who loathes the
>>>>>> "capitalist class"
>>>>
>>>> I can best your ad-hominem spew to a single word to describe you.
>>>>
>>>> I'm certain that those who surround you would agree.
>>>
>>>
>>> Uh...how did I get into this one?
>>
>> It's that he finds my missives so unpalatable that he has me filtered,
>> and he uses others through which to carry on with the conversation.
>>
>
>
>Ahhh. Well, I don't go that far. I think you're just another right-wing
>asshole.
I think you've managed to use the word I had in mind. Sorry if I
confused, it was indeed meant for the insurance salesman.
I only selectively respond to his tripe. Engaging him directly is a
lost cause. He's a master of deflection and the red herring.
His main foil is the bible, in the spirit of Pat Robertson.
jps
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
It was a Jewish faction organized around him and his ideas. He was
appealing to those who found his message to be in their self interest.
Sure sounds like a community organizer to me.
I'm sure there'll be some bible verses upcoming that'll cast Jesus
otherwise, interpretationally.
jps
<gene.b...@tranquilrefuge.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:55:04 -0600, jpj...@psbnewton.com wrote:
>
><snipped>
>
>A confusion or bro. we gotta find another name.....
>
>http://tinyurl.com/yejhe29
Peacekeeping through war. Excellent.
jps
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
Circumstantial ad hominem?
As if he hasn't provided enough direct proof of his fundy idiocy?
I know, we can figure it out by having a bible quoting contest!
Candy Man
<jpj...@psbnewton.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:04:41 -0500, H the K <naled...@mypacks.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On 11/21/09 11:51 AM, jps wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:42:41 -0500, H the K<naled...@mypacks.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I dunno, Tim. I was still half asleep this morning when I wrote this.
>>>>> (My daughter is visiting from Cincy, and we went to the Elks last
>>>>> night. I stayed up way too late.) But, I know that I didn't seperate
>>>>> the adjectives by a comma as I should have, for one thing. I suppose
>>>>> what I wanted to say was;
>>>>>
>>>>> brazen, loud, clamorous, not-moving-on person who loathes the
>>>>> "capitalist class"
>>>
>>> I can best your ad-hominem spew to a single word to describe you.
>>>
>>> I'm certain that those who surround you would agree.
>>
>>
>>Uh...how did I get into this one?
>
> It's that he finds my missives so unpalatable that he has me filtered,
> and he uses others through which to carry on with the conversation.
>
lol! Thats kinda like watching football games on tv's at Walmart.
I just wish that Walmart would provide seats.
jps
A Walmart shopper. Yup. A conservative who likes sending money to
China, as long as he gets the lowest price!!!
GOP, The Fuck America Party.
Candy Man
ROFL! What contest, dude? You haven't quoted or cited anything! you've
tied yourself into knots trying to keep up. how do you know the guys a
fundy anyway? Just because he's done the research and you havent? Your a
winner alright!
jps
I live in the modern world have no regard for those who need bible
passages to guide their existence.
The passages he's quoting could be interpretted to mean whatever
argument he'd like to make. It's a ruse. Evidently, you buy into
bullshit easily since you think he's actually made a point.
He or I could quote several passages that confirm your behavior is
reason for you to be stoned to death.
I prefer dictionary definitions, and from my knowledge of the
historical accounts of his life, the one posted here for community
organizer fits Jesus fine.
The bible is full of easily manipulated phrases that the disingenuous
use to impart false value to poorly constructed arguments.
Jesus was a community organizer.
Here, learn something about him...
achmed
>
> The bible is full of easily manipulated phrases that the disingenuous
> use to impart false value to poorly constructed arguments.
>
> Jesus was a community organizer.
>
> Here, learn something about him...
>
> http://www.lcurve.org/writings/BiblicalLiberal.htm
You are right The link you posted is pure liberal spin.
Candy Man
> reason for you to be stoned to death.
You can? Ok then. show me. I'm here all week.
Or are you going to pull another dodge?
nom=de=plume
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Research? He quoted some passages out of context.
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No the question is whether or not the extreme right tried to use community
organizing against Obama in the election. This has nothing to do with Jesus
or the organizing he was a part of.
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No it doesn't. If you're genuine in your desire for honest debate, you'll
need to acknowledge the right's attack on Obama for him being a community
organizer.
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TopBassDog
David Chandler never mentioned community "organizer" or "organizing"
in that link.
Take your own advice and learn more yourself.. The Christ was, and is
a Liberator, not a liberal.
There is a difference.
Candy Man
"nom=de=plume" <nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote in message
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Everything he quoted directly contradicted you what guys are saying so that
tells me that the guy has done his homework. you and jps haven't shown how
what he has quoted is out of context in anyway at all. That tells me that
you guys don't have a clue.
jps
I didn't offer to, I said I could. No sock puppet is worth the
investment of time. Have a nice weekend.
jps
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
Good luck.
Candy Man
You must be heading out for a car show. Nice dodge.
jps
Your logic is what doesn't have a clue.
jpj...@psbnewton.com
<nom=d...@plume.invalid> wrote:
You have a good day today, Em.
nom=de=plume
Anyone can quote passages in the bible. He provided no context. So, it seems
that you're the one who has a clue failure.
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