One of the funniest threads ever...

[F.O.A.D.]

...read this at your own risk...(of spitting coffee out on your keyboard...)

http://tinyurl.com/aey6fnq

[Hank©]

On 5/19/2013 7:38 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
> ....read this at your own risk...(of spitting coffee out on your
> keyboard...)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/aey6fnq

Another Secular Chicago thug. Only this one shoots from the lip.

[Wayne B]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:45:51 -0400, Hank� <han...@socialworker.net>
wrote:

===

I wonder what kind of boats they have?

[F.O.A.D.]

They teach the kids to think they can walk on water.

[Tim]

On May 19, 6:38 am, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:
> ...read this at your own risk...(of spitting coffee out on your keyboard...)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/aey6fnq

LOL! Yeah, thanks, Harry. That's a real side splitter for sure. Hey
this one's pretty good too.. It's hilarious watching people grab for
straws...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/barbara-boxers-claim-that-gop-budgets-hampered-benghazi-security/2013/05/15/d1e295cc-bdb0-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_blog.html

[F.O.A.D.]

You don't think it is funny that some batshit crazy religious school
wants its girl students to dress properly in case their residential
buildings catch on fire? I suppose if prudishness is your driving force,
it is better for the girls to be burned alive than to be seen in their
jammies.

[Hank©]

Maybe if girls dressed properly, many of them wouldn't end up at the
abortion mills.

[BAR]

In article <oj0lp814ktcdkdgib...@4ax.com>, gfre...@aol.com says...

>
> On Mon, 20 May 2013 15:46:09 -0400, Hank© <han...@socialworker.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >Maybe if girls dressed properly, many of them wouldn't end up at the
> >abortion mills.
>

> Chastity belts? ;-)

Libdo is a two gender street. I have had my share of women whose libdo was far greater than
mine.

[iBoaterer]

In article <519a7d89$0$28469$c3e8da3$aae7...@news.astraweb.com>, hank57
@socialworker.net says...

What a stupid, ignorant statement.

[iBoaterer]

In article <MPG.2c044fd95...@news.giganews.com>, sc...@you.com
says...

>
> In article <oj0lp814ktcdkdgib...@4ax.com>, gfre...@aol.com says...
> >

> > On Mon, 20 May 2013 15:46:09 -0400, Hankￜ <han...@socialworker.net>

> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > >Maybe if girls dressed properly, many of them wouldn't end up at the
> > >abortion mills.
> >
> > Chastity belts? ;-)
>
> Libdo is a two gender street. I have had my share of women whose libdo was far greater than
> mine.

What is a "libdo"?

[F.O.A.D.]

On 5/20/13 4:07 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

> On Mon, 20 May 2013 15:46:09 -0400, Hank© <han...@socialworker.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Maybe if girls dressed properly, many of them wouldn't end up at the
>> abortion mills.
>

> Chastity belts? ;-)
>

Your buddy flajim must believe that if a woman is raped, "she was asking
for it."

[amdx]

Improper dressing causes pregnancy?
I used to run around in shorts and no shirt could I have gotten pregnant?
Mikek

[amdx]

On 5/20/2013 3:21 PM, BAR wrote:
> In article <oj0lp814ktcdkdgib...@4ax.com>, gfre...@aol.com says...
>>

>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 15:46:09 -0400, Hankￜ <han...@socialworker.net>

>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Maybe if girls dressed properly, many of them wouldn't end up at the
>>> abortion mills.
>>
>> Chastity belts? ;-)
>

> Libido is a two gender street. I have had my share of women whose libido was far greater than
> mine.
>
Ah, fond memories. :-)
Mikek

[Eisboch]

"BAR" wrote in message
news:MPG.2c044fd95...@news.giganews.com...

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That's funny, right there!

[345...@gmail.com]

Now you're donnie?

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

They work in lockstep. They only have a few tricks but the harassment
must continue...

[F.O.A.D.]

Is that one of the meds you take? Libdo?

[Hank©]

I wouldn't bet on it, dummy.

[Wayne B]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 15:46:09 -0400, Hank� <han...@socialworker.net>
wrote:

====

Hank, I think you might be on to something there, or maybe you are
just "On Something":


<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arab_Girl.JPG>

[Hank©]

Is that what comes to mind when you think of proper dress, my friend.
Who's on something?

[Wayne B]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:43:44 -0400, Hank� <han...@socialworker.net>
wrote:

>>> Maybe if girls dressed properly, many of them wouldn't end up at the
>>> abortion mills.
>>
>> ====
>>
>> Hank, I think you might be on to something there, or maybe you are
>> just "On Something":
>>
>>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arab_Girl.JPG>
>>
>Is that what comes to mind when you think of proper dress, my friend.
>Who's on something?

====

It is the notion of "proper dress" carried to its logical extreme,
somewhat reminiscent of victorian times.

[Tim]

On May 20, 6:42 am, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:
> On 5/20/13 8:31 AM, Tim wrote:
>
> > On May 19, 6:38 am, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:
> >> ...read this at your own risk...(of spitting coffee out on your keyboard...)
>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/aey6fnq
>
> > LOL! Yeah, thanks, Harry. That's a real side splitter for sure. Hey
> > this one's pretty good too.. It's hilarious watching people grab for
> > straws...
>

> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/barbara-boxers-...

>
> You don't think it is funny that some batshit crazy religious school
> wants its girl students to dress properly in case their residential
> buildings catch on fire? I suppose if prudishness is your driving force,
> it is better for the girls to be burned alive than to be seen in their
> jammies.

Don't you think it's funny that a high powered and supposedly
respected Senator would stoop so low to make up, if not believe
ridiculous claims to overcoat a tragedy?

the testimony refuted her claim.

[F.O.A.D.]

What I can't figure out is why the Republicans are working so hard to
try to make a scandal about the deaths of four people in a dangerous
country. Your boy Bush, after all, started wars under false pretenses
that killed more than 4000 Americans and the GOP response was "stuff
happens."

Meanwhile, there's a school run by batshit crazy religious people who
want girls to pause to dress properly if their dorm catches on fire.
D'oh. I'm sure the crazies are misinterpreting some part of the bible, eh?

What's funny to me is that 21st Century christians believe their bible,
"the word of god," is a book edited in the 17th Century from 16th
Century translations of about 8,000 contradictory copies of 4th Century
scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the 1st Century.

That's right. The oldest manuscripts available were written down
hundreds of years after the last apostle died...8,000 manuscripts, no
two alike.

But the crew of King James didn't use any of these, anyway. They edited
previous translations and created a version that their king and their
parliament would approve.

Belief in god is a concept an agnostic like me can understand and
appreciate. Belief in a holy book "written down" in the 17th Century to
please a king? Is that faith or insanity?

[Hank©]

When you find out for sure, let us know. Snerk.

[iBoaterer]

In article <b0597f7d-59d1-44ff...@googlegroups.com>,
345...@gmail.com says...

I'm sure Scotty will think so! But really, I don't know what a libdo is.
He was speaking about women, so is it a local expression for a lesbian?
A liberal boy?

[iBoaterer]

In article <kneh16$ank$1...@dont-email.me>, justwaitaf...@gmail.com
says...

Day 2 of the Scotty circle of insanity, poor poor victim....

[345...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:50:34 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
>
> But really, I don't know what a libdo is.
> He was speaking about women, so is it a local expression for a lesbian?
> A liberal boy?

Really? You're so low on brainpower that your mind can't fill in a missing "i"?
Wow.

[iBoaterer]

In article <33a29ee3-8a2e-40c4...@googlegroups.com>,
345...@gmail.com says...

IF I did put in a missing "i", how do you know that that was the
writer's intent?

[345...@gmail.com]

Context. Look it up.

[iBoaterer]

In article <d839ed87-d2e1-444b...@googlegroups.com>,

345...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:41:22 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
> > In article <33a29ee3-8a2e-40c4...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > 345...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:50:34 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > But really, I don't know what a libdo is.
> >
> > > > He was speaking about women, so is it a local expression for a lesbian?
> >
> > > > A liberal boy?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Really? You're so low on brainpower that your mind can't fill in a missing "i"?
> >
> > > Wow.
> >
> >
> >
> > IF I did put in a missing "i", how do you know that that was the
> > writer's intent?
>
> Context. Look it up.

Context? You are talking about context in regards to BAR? He's just too
far crazed to make any sense of his far right ramblings.

[Earl]

Nice diversion attempt. Next time answer the man or STFU, deadbeat.

[Tim]

On May 19, 6:45 am, Hank© <han...@socialworker.net> wrote:

>
> Another  Secular Chicago thug. Only this one shoots from the lip.

This one shuts down schools...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-education-chicagobre94l0en-20130522,0,398991.story

[F.O.A.D.]

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

[Hank©]

On 5/22/2013 11:05 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
> On 5/22/13 8:30 AM, Tim wrote:
>> On May 19, 6:45 am, Hank� <han...@socialworker.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Another Secular Chicago thug. Only this one shoots from the lip.
>>
>> This one shuts down schools...
>>

>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-education-chicagobre94l0en-20130522,0,398991.story all that the great thinkers

>>
>>
>
> Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
> schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

You and O'Bama think alike. Throwing money at problems and enacting laws
often do nothing to fix the problems. But that seems to be all that you
great thinkers can come up with.

[John H]

Both seem to think giving union teachers more money makes them better teachers. What horseshit.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

[John H]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:13:51 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

>On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:
>
>>Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
>>schools erodes the funds available for public schools.
>

>I never understood how charter schools "waste money".
>They actually spend a lot less per student than the public school
>(they only get FTE) and usually get better results.
>
>If a charter school fails, it gets closed. If a public school fails,
>we just throw more money at it and hope it gets better. They seldom
>do.because there is no fundamental change in how they do things and
>incompetent people are still "fire proof".

What did you expect from the source of the comment to which you responded?

[F.O.A.D.]

On 5/22/13 12:13 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:
>

>> Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
>> schools erodes the funds available for public schools.
>

> I never understood how charter schools "waste money".
> They actually spend a lot less per student than the public school
> (they only get FTE) and usually get better results.
>
> If a charter school fails, it gets closed. If a public school fails,
> we just throw more money at it and hope it gets better. They seldom
> do.because there is no fundamental change in how they do things and
> incompetent people are still "fire proof".
>

I've read a lot of reports about charter schools. I'm not impressed for
a lot of reasons, including the facts that they tend to cherry pick
their students, they don't have to deal with "difficult" students, there
have been interesting shenanigans with standardized testing, they many
times are church-related, and they suck resources away from the public
schools.

[F.O.A.D.]

On 5/22/13 12:13 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:
>

>> Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
>> schools erodes the funds available for public schools.
>

> I never understood how charter schools "waste money".
> They actually spend a lot less per student than the public school
> (they only get FTE) and usually get better results.
>
> If a charter school fails, it gets closed. If a public school fails,
> we just throw more money at it and hope it gets better. They seldom
> do.because there is no fundamental change in how they do things and
> incompetent people are still "fire proof".
>

You might enjoy reading this:

http://tinyurl.com/nw94m6w

[Wayne B]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:

>Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
>schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

[iBoaterer]

In article <pl0qp85e93118ku5n...@4ax.com>,
waynebatr...@hotmail.com says...

You bet! Parents use the school as a day care and nothing else.

[F.O.A.D.]

I agree 100% with this part of your post:

[Wayne B]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:19:43 -0400, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:

>I agree 100% with this part of your post:
>
>They are failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
>process. When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top
>priorities, the parents are inevitably to blame.

===

You can add all the funding you want but without parental commitment
it will largely be wasted. We need some *serious* national leadership
on this issue. I had hoped that your president would do more but so
far I've been disappointed.

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

> A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
> functioning families.
>

A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

[Wayne B]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:52:24 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

>On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
><waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>

>A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
>functioning families.

===

I understand that part of the issue very well. It is just about
impossible to have parental commitment without a functioning family.

Any ideas on how to fix it?

[True North]

Say what... "we give them"??
You don't work or pay taxes... you "give them" nothing.

[F.O.A.D.]

What are mom and pop doing at night? Even if one works at night, the
other should be home some of the time while the kids are home and awake,
especially when the kids are in grammar school or middle school or
junior high.

I wonder what teachers could do "a lot more" of in times where
classrooms are packed, resources are thin, and teachers have more
classes each day than they did when I was in public school.

Of course, if you are a kid and home with PsychoSnotty, what could you
learn? Certainly not reading, writing, math or social skills.

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

You pathetic old slob. Does telling your harrytales make you feel like
more of a man? I doubt it...

[F.O.A.D.]

It would be unique for you to be a man, eh?

[John H]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B <waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Add the inability to fire worthless union teachers, and I'd wholeheartedly agree with you.

[John H]

He's catching flak on NBC news for comments made at Morehouse urging the students to act as they
should. He sounded much like Bill Cosby, who most blacks consider a racist. Obama is being accused
of the same thing.

A third feather in his cap.

[John H]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:52:24 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

>A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
>functioning families.

In DC, 80% of the births are to unwed mothers. Could that have something to do with the problem? I
wonder how Detroit and Chicago compare.

[John H]

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

[Tim]

On May 22, 10:05 am, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:
> On 5/22/13 8:30 AM, Tim wrote:
>
> > On May 19, 6:45 am, Hank© <han...@socialworker.net> wrote:
>
> >> Another  Secular Chicago thug. Only this one shoots from the lip.
>
> > This one shuts down schools...
>

> >http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-education-chicagobre...

>
> Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
> schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

Nothing in the article said a thing about 'Bush' or "charter schools"
but it did say this, if you had read the article-

"Fueling union anger over school closings in Chicago is the expansion
of publicly funded but mostly non-unionized charter schools. The
number of charter schools has risen even as neighborhood public
schools are closed."

Harry, why aren't you protesting the school closings with your
fraternal union brotherhood? I take it you're really not for
education?

?;^ )

[Tim]

On May 22, 12:11 pm, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:

> I've read a lot of reports about charter schools. I'm not impressed for
> a lot of reasons, including the facts that they tend to cherry pick
> their students, they don't have to deal with "difficult" students, there
> have been interesting shenanigans with standardized testing, they many
> times are church-related, and they suck resources away from the public
> school

I don't know about charter schools, but the parochial schools in my
area don't receive a dime from the govt. The parents pay the tuition
fees.

[Tim]

On May 22, 1:15 pm, iBoaterer <iB...@grmail.com> wrote:

>
> You bet! Parents use the school as a day care and nothing else.

Sad, but true in a lot of cases. And if the kid is a problem at
school, it's always someone else's fault...

[Hank©]

I just heard a report that 35 Chicago public schools will be closed.

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of shit, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

[F.O.A.D.]

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma is
still in effect?

[Eisboch]

"Tim" wrote in message
news:9b4a2db9-04bd-4d2e...@20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

-------------------------------------------

Our youngest went to a parochial high school.
We paid the tuition for his school but also paid taxes to support the
public school system.

[Eisboch]

--------------------------------

I am not exactly sure what you are implying. It sounds like you are
saying that your mom helped institute a policy that all but guarantees
a HS diploma, regardless of academic achievement or qualification.
Is that what you are saying?

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

I heard 50...

[F.O.A.D.]

There are church-run charter schools and parochial schools all over the
country that receive direct funding from the public or accept
(gratefully) vouchers from the public school system. We had
church-related schools when I was growing up, but they didn't receive
direct public funding or vouchers.

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

At least I have a diploma... It's sitting right here in front of me on
the wall. Did you ever earn one?

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

Wow, I think you are channeling loogie but I will spell it out for you.
Schools can in fact teach the students without 40 plus hours of homework
a semester. Our system has been doing that for over 50 years and our
system is constantly among the highest rated educations in the state...

[Eisboch]

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
news:knjpmd$s8o$1...@dont-email.me...

-------------------------------------------------

You've changed your wording. First it was " our town is a high rated

system when it comes to diplomas..."

Now it's " our system is constantly among the highest rated
educations in the state..."

Thanks for the clarification of quality over quantity.

[Eisboch]

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
news:knjp5b$of0$1...@dont-email.me...

----------------------------------

LOL! (Sorry). I think you are the first person I've ever heard of
that has his high school diploma on display on a wall.

[F.O.A.D.]

Three, although I have no idea where my high school diploma is. My
mother had it, but when she moved to Florida, I'm not sure what happened
to it. I do have a bachelor of arts and master of arts degree. My wife
has a bachelor of science, a master of science, and a Ph.D.

[F.O.A.D.]

Forty hours of homework a semester? We had at least two hours of
homework a night when I was in high school. Ten hours a week, minimum Of
course, we learned how to read and write, and think abstractly.

You have problems writing coherent sentences. That speaks well to your
wonderful education wherever the hell you went to public school, eh?

[F.O.A.D.]

:)

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

Um, ok. either way. My point stands. Kids don't need three hours of
homework in the fourth grade, and in too many families, it won't/can't
get done anyway.... If they would stick to readin' writin' and
'rithmetic, instead of political and social indoctrination, they can get
it done in the allotted time period. This is a different world, the
schools need to adjust too...

[F.O.A.D.]

I don't know where my high school diploma is. I'm fairly certain my
mother "lost it" when she moved from New Haven to Florida. My college
diplomas are in a scrapbook in the house somewhere...never bothered to
get them framed and I don't recall looking at either of them for, oh, 40
years. :)

[F.O.A.D.]

Political indoctrination? Did your kids go to public school at a gulag?
Three hours of homework in the fourth grade? Are you on drugs?

It's funny that you are commenting on ways to improve the public
education system. How did you come to these ideas of yours?

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

Bullshit.. My mom put it up there some 30 years ago along with a few
trophies and other objects of my childhood? That might be forign to you,
but my mom was pretty proud of me, I do call bullshit that you couldn't
deduce that or something similar all by yourself though. <snerk>

I bet you have some momemtos on your wall somewhere of things in your
life you are proud of, I bet your mom did too.. Sorry if your "things"
are better than mine... you don't even see... oh forget it.. LOL! Hope
you never do...

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

Yes, and a Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat, pictures of owls, three
doctorates, a fireboat welcome to NYC, cars, conquests, money.... We
know you have it all but out of the two of us, I am the only one who can
prove any of it.... The facts say you have failed at two businesses and
gone bankrupt twice (that we know of). So either way, even if you do
have a HS diploma, it has done you no more good than mine did me...

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

You are uninformed, and not worth engaging...

>
> It's funny that you are commenting on ways to improve the public
> education system. How did you come to these ideas of yours?

See above...

[F.O.A.D.]

Did she save that sweatshirt that said *High School* ?

http://www.80stees.com/images/products/Bluto-Photo-Animal-House-Shirt-link.jpg

[F.O.A.D.]

Funny stuff from a moron.

[Eisboch]

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
news:f8udnXyvm4z47wDM...@earthlink.com...

----------------------------------------------------

I don't know what the homework load is specifically in today's public
schools but both my daughter and my older son who both have kids in
school have commented that the homework load is incredibly high, even
at the grade school level .... significantly higher than what I
remember them as kids having.
I think the increased homework load on kids in the grade school levels
is a direct result of the Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment
System (MCAS) system that was introduced in 1993. It's still
controversial because it evaluates school systems and the teachers as
well as the academic achievement of the students and some people feel
it puts unnecessary pressure on the kids at too early of an age.

As for me, I don't really remember much of grammar school. My
recollection of high school (back in the dark ages) is similar to
Harry's .... about 2, sometimes even 3 hours a night, depending on the
course load.

[Eisboch]

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
news:knjrrj$5fd$1...@dont-email.me...

---------------------------------------------

Nope. My parents were just grateful that I made it through high
school.

Didn't mean to offend or make fun. It just struck my funny bone.
I've never seen or heard of anyone's HS diploma displayed on a wall.
Yours is the first. Nothing wrong with it. I think most people's
diplomas are either long lost or growing mold in a trunk in the
basement.

BTW, just so you know .... I never had two extra nickels to rub
together until much later in my life .... like over 53 years old. I
was not raised, nor did I live in a "privileged" economic environment.

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

On 5/22/2013 9:23 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
> On 5/22/13 9:03 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
>> On 5/22/2013 7:33 PM, Eisboch wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
>>>> anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
>>>> ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
>>>> to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
>>>> half to
>>>> one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
>>>> a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
>>>> the same time they don't fool around with a lot of shit, everybody gets
>>>> a voice, I will leave it at that.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------
>>>
>>> I am not exactly sure what you are implying. It sounds like you are
>>> saying that your mom helped institute a policy that all but guarantees a
>>> HS diploma, regardless of academic achievement or qualification. Is that
>>> what you are saying?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Wow, I think you are channeling loogie but I will spell it out for you.
>> Schools can in fact teach the students without 40 plus hours of homework
>> a semester. Our system has been doing that for over 50 years and our
>> system is constantly among the highest rated educations in the state...
>

per class, per semester... the rest of your bullshit isn't worth
addressing...

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

I agree, but it was even more funny when we read it all from you in your
own words..

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

Sure, that's about right.. 5 classes, 40 hours of homework for each
class, 90 day semester.... Sure, in high school that's fine and probably
about right.

I spend almost every evening with parents of elementary and middle
school students who are getting that amount of homework too, and there
are a lot of them that find it very hard to spend that much time each
evening doing homework for kids who could learn the basics of elementary
and middle school, during the school day...

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

Like I said, you are not worth engaging...

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

On 5/22/2013 10:03 PM, Eisboch wrote:

>
> BTW, just so you know .... I never had two extra nickels to rub
> together until much later in my life .... like over 53 years old. I
> was not raised, nor did I live in a "privileged" economic environment.

Don't doubt that for a minute...

[Wayne B]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 17:48:58 -0400, John H <salmo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:50:04 -0400, Wayne B <waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:19:43 -0400, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I agree 100% with this part of your post:

>>>
>>>They are failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
>>>process. When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top
>>>priorities, the parents are inevitably to blame.
>>

>>===
>>
>>You can add all the funding you want but without parental commitment
>>it will largely be wasted. We need some *serious* national leadership
>>on this issue. I had hoped that your president would do more but so
>>far I've been disappointed.
>
>He's catching flak on NBC news for comments made at Morehouse urging the students to act as they
>should. He sounded much like Bill Cosby, who most blacks consider a racist. Obama is being accused
>of the same thing.
>
>A third feather in his cap.
>
============

Nothing wrong with sounding like Bill Cosby in my opinion. Bill is a
smart guy with a PhD if my memory is correct. Lack of parental
commitment to education is not just a racial issue however. It cuts
across a broad spectrum of sub groups and reaches well up into the
middle class in some cases. They are all dooming their children to
mediocrity at best and will be the first to cry foul when an asian kid
with highly committed parents gets into a better college.

[Eisboch]

"Wayne B" wrote in message
news:5m0rp89jek4dlejrf...@4ax.com...

============

Nothing wrong with sounding like Bill Cosby in my opinion. Bill is a
smart guy with a PhD if my memory is correct. Lack of parental
commitment to education is not just a racial issue however. It cuts
across a broad spectrum of sub groups and reaches well up into the
middle class in some cases. They are all dooming their children to
mediocrity at best and will be the first to cry foul when an asian kid
with highly committed parents gets into a better college.

----------------------------------

It's ironic that you mention Bill Cosby because I was just reading
about him the other day. He has a very interesting educational
background.

He actually failed 10th grade in high school and dropped out. He
later earned an equivalency HS diploma via a correspondence course
program.
He attended Temple University but left before obtaining a degree.
Went on to his acting and stand up comedy career.
In the 70's he went back to school at the University of Massachusetts
under a special graduate degree program and earned a MA without
benefit of having a Bachelor's Degree. He then obtained his PhD,
again from the University of Massachusetts. It was after he earned
the PhD that Temple University awarded him a Bachelor's for "life
experience".

I had always thought he was awarded a honorary PhD. Nope. He earned
it. His Bachelor's degree (awarded last) was the honorary one.

[BAR]

In article <MPG.2c06d54b6...@news.eternal-september.org>, iB...@grmail.com says...
>
> In article <pl0qp85e93118ku5n...@4ax.com>,
> waynebatr...@hotmail.com says...

> >
> > On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
> > >schools erodes the funds available for public schools.
> >
> > ===
> >

> > Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are

> > failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
> > When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
> > the parents are inevitably to blame.
>

> You bet! Parents use the school as a day care and nothing else.

Head Start has proved to have no benefit to the child because by the time they are in 3rd
grade any perceived gain from Head Start is long gone. Head Start give low-income parents the
abilty to have the public provide baby sitting services cheaply and it gives the government
flunkies time to mold the children in their images.

[BAR]

> "F.O.A.D." wrote in message
> news:f8udnXyvm4z47wDM...@earthlink.com...
>
> On 5/22/13 9:23 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
> >
> > Um, ok. either way. My point stands. Kids don't need three hours of
> > homework in the fourth grade, and in too many families, it
> > won't/can't
> > get done anyway.... If they would stick to readin' writin' and
> > 'rithmetic, instead of political and social indoctrination, they can
> > get
> > it done in the allotted time period. This is a different world, the
> > schools need to adjust too...
>
>
> Political indoctrination? Did your kids go to public school at a
> gulag?
> Three hours of homework in the fourth grade? Are you on drugs?

My daughters were told by their teachers in public school that if they used the NRA as a
source for anything relating to guns and gun control they would be failed.

[Hank©]

O'Bama And Cosby are being called racist by different people for
different reasons. Cosby is someone to be admired.

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

Yup, got that right...

[Wayne B]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:13:26 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
<justwaitaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

>it gives the government
>> flunkies time to mold the children in their images.
>>
>
>Yup, got that right...

===

That's nonsense.

[JustWaitAFrekinMinute]

When was the last time you had a child in a public school system?

[F.O.A.D.]

Nice to hear from the highly uneducated posters on educational topics. :)

[Hank©]

Nice to have a boating neophyte like you posting on rec.boats. Luckily
you have your father to fall back on as your treasure of boating stories.

[iBoaterer]

In article <knjb15$oaj$1...@dont-email.me>, justwaitaf...@gmail.com
says...
>
> On 5/22/2013 4:34 PM, True North wrote:

> > On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:14:36 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
> >> On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>

> >>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B

> >>
> >>> <waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." <no...@jose.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>>> Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
> >>
> >>>>> schools erodes the funds available for public schools.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>> ===
> >>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>> Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
> >>
> >>>> failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
> >>
> >>>> When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
> >>
> >>>> the parents are inevitably to blame.
> >>
> >>>
> >>

> >>> A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
> >>
> >>> functioning families.
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much
> >>
> >> time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and
> >>
> >> kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
> >>
> >> our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad
> >>
> >> at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
> >>
> >> them, they could do a lot more.
> >
> >

> > Say what... "we give them"??
> > You don't work or pay taxes... you "give them" nothing.
> >
>
> You pathetic old slob. Does telling your harrytales make you feel like
> more of a man? I doubt it...

It's not a lie, you owe taxes.

[iBoaterer]

In article <519e0dd7$0$64452$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com>, hank57
@socialworker.net says...

That's just because you're prejudiced.