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His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Jan 22, 2013, 11:47:23 AM1/22/13
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If the Bible is true, we are all Jewish or stem from Jewish ancestors.
Maybe it's a reason to celebrate that we are all that close, or maybe
it's a reason to grab a Torah and start talking Yiddish. I have tried
talking to them and it's like they are in another world. Maybe they
should catch up with the rest of the world and stop trying being
different.
"According to the Book of Genesis, Noah saved his family and
representatives of every animal from a flood by constructing a boat.
So since all of humanity should be descended from Noah, does that mean
everyone is Jewish?"
http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/8515/all-people-in-world-are-jews
***
I mean, I don't worry about it, but maybe some out there do. Will they
be Jewish or gentile?
Deep, deep questions as we approach the end of history. What's next
after history? The cockroaches, of course.
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Maybe it's a reason to celebrate that we are all that close, or maybe
it's a reason to grab a Torah and start talking Yiddish. I have tried
talking to them and it's like they are in another world. Maybe they
should catch up with the rest of the world and stop trying being
different.
"According to the Book of Genesis, Noah saved his family and
representatives of every animal from a flood by constructing a boat.
So since all of humanity should be descended from Noah, does that mean
everyone is Jewish?"
http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/8515/all-people-in-world-are-jews
***
I mean, I don't worry about it, but maybe some out there do. Will they
be Jewish or gentile?
Deep, deep questions as we approach the end of history. What's next
after history? The cockroaches, of course.
------------------------------------------------------------------
http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, the Most Humble Philosopher Alive
Jan 29, 2013, 3:44:11 PM1/29/13
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On Jan 22, 11:36 am, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
are 12 tribes-- but they suffered from a madman with absolute power,
and now that they live in democracy they totally miss the point.
If they let the world fall apart all around them, and ignore the many
injustices out there, nobody will come to their rescue when it's their
turn. Well, I'm kind of paraphrasing that famous anecdote of "nobody
was there for me." No, it doesn't make me cry. They are there for no
one.
Case in point is this dangerous intersection with no signal light I
brought to the attention of this Jewish business lady --right in her
affluent community, where they must walk on Sabbath-- and she says
she's seen people go flying, but she adds the politicians will do
nothing about it. Really? Is democracy that bad that justifies any
other option? How about Sharia law? How about Jungle Law? Any law that
works? You get a speeding ticket but you go to the lawyer --usually
Jewish-- and he takes away your points. No need to go to court. Had an
accident? Go to the lawyer who will hook you up with the doctor and
the whole money-making machine to compensate you. Just pray that you
are alright and keep driving and feeding the system. I tried to get a
lawyer to sue this wealthy city --the mayor is Jewish-- for banning
cycling on the sidewalk while failing to provide bike facilities. Hey,
they don't want to hear about it. What they are doing amounts to: "Go
and fight the traffic jungle. You are on your own."
Is that why the Germans took democracy seriously and made it work? Is
it coincidence the Jewish lawyer and doctor are not in the picture?
There's a progressive Jewish magazine called Tikkun but it sounds like
a voice from the wilderness...
http://www.tikkun.org
This tribe really got me worried. Well, democracy got me worried too.
The whole planet is going to trash under its watch. And then the war
with Iran. Who's fueling that war?
That's why is so important to remember not to judge the sausage by the
skin.
Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If the Bible is true, we are all Jewish or stem from Jewish ancestors.
> Maybe it's a reason to celebrate that we are all that close, or maybe
> it's a reason to grab a Torah and start talking Yiddish. I have tried
> talking to them and it's like they are in another world. Maybe they
> should catch up with the rest of the world and stop trying being
> different.
>
> "According to the Book of Genesis, Noah saved his family and
> representatives of every animal from a flood by constructing a boat.
> So since all of humanity should be descended from Noah, does that mean
> everyone is Jewish?"
>
> http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/8515/all-people-in-world-a...
> If the Bible is true, we are all Jewish or stem from Jewish ancestors.
> Maybe it's a reason to celebrate that we are all that close, or maybe
> it's a reason to grab a Torah and start talking Yiddish. I have tried
> talking to them and it's like they are in another world. Maybe they
> should catch up with the rest of the world and stop trying being
> different.
>
> "According to the Book of Genesis, Noah saved his family and
> representatives of every animal from a flood by constructing a boat.
> So since all of humanity should be descended from Noah, does that mean
> everyone is Jewish?"
>
>
> ***
>
> I mean, I don't worry about it, but maybe some out there do. Will they
> be Jewish or gentile?
>
> Deep, deep questions as we approach the end of history. What's next
> after history? The cockroaches, of course.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
Maybe I'm demanding too much from this particular tribe --assuming we
> ***
>
> I mean, I don't worry about it, but maybe some out there do. Will they
> be Jewish or gentile?
>
> Deep, deep questions as we approach the end of history. What's next
> after history? The cockroaches, of course.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
are 12 tribes-- but they suffered from a madman with absolute power,
and now that they live in democracy they totally miss the point.
If they let the world fall apart all around them, and ignore the many
injustices out there, nobody will come to their rescue when it's their
turn. Well, I'm kind of paraphrasing that famous anecdote of "nobody
was there for me." No, it doesn't make me cry. They are there for no
one.
Case in point is this dangerous intersection with no signal light I
brought to the attention of this Jewish business lady --right in her
affluent community, where they must walk on Sabbath-- and she says
she's seen people go flying, but she adds the politicians will do
nothing about it. Really? Is democracy that bad that justifies any
other option? How about Sharia law? How about Jungle Law? Any law that
works? You get a speeding ticket but you go to the lawyer --usually
Jewish-- and he takes away your points. No need to go to court. Had an
accident? Go to the lawyer who will hook you up with the doctor and
the whole money-making machine to compensate you. Just pray that you
are alright and keep driving and feeding the system. I tried to get a
lawyer to sue this wealthy city --the mayor is Jewish-- for banning
cycling on the sidewalk while failing to provide bike facilities. Hey,
they don't want to hear about it. What they are doing amounts to: "Go
and fight the traffic jungle. You are on your own."
Is that why the Germans took democracy seriously and made it work? Is
it coincidence the Jewish lawyer and doctor are not in the picture?
There's a progressive Jewish magazine called Tikkun but it sounds like
a voice from the wilderness...
http://www.tikkun.org
This tribe really got me worried. Well, democracy got me worried too.
The whole planet is going to trash under its watch. And then the war
with Iran. Who's fueling that war?
That's why is so important to remember not to judge the sausage by the
skin.
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Feb 1, 2013, 11:43:44 AM2/1/13
to
On Jan 31, 7:53 pm, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:54:11 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the Wise
> >On Jan 31, 5:54 am, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:14:44 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the Wise
> >> >"EVOLUTION AND REVOLUTION"
>
> >> >http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/coldoffthepresses/evand...
>
> >> >***
>
> >> >It even talks about the role of Christians and Jews in "civilization."
> >> >I think there's civilization everywhere but it's mostly found in
> >> >Northern Europe nowadays. When people must live in citadels like the
> >> >Middle Ages there's something terribly wrong with that system. Israel
> >> >is a citadel itself, so we know there's little civilization in the
> >> >area.
>
> >> You are quoting from a document that was published in 1891. I really
> >> hate to be the one to tell you but there has been rather significant
> >> additions to the world's knowledge base in the past 120 years.
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
>
> >> John B.
>
> >That's modern compared to the Bible. But it reads as if was written
> >yesterday. Communism didn't work, capitalism is killing the planet, so
> >some anarchism doesn't hurt. Think about it and you'll realize the
> >cyclist is the perfect anarchist. He doesn't feed the capitalist
> >grinding machine nor does he depend on public transportation. Though
> >very much needed, public transportation entails a bureaucracy. You
> >wonder why the buses are so noisy and full of idiots. Instead, you
> >dictate your schedule and you are able to roam free.
>
> >We just need to tame the machine that's killing us.
>
> The bicyclist doesn't feed the capitalist machine? With his $5,000
> plastic bicycle? With his snobbish disdain of any type of bicycle
> except "his" kind?
Those cyclists got nothing to do with practical cyclists with panniers
doing errands in their community. Their bicycle is probably made of
steel, which represents the metal of the working class, idealists and
revolutionaries.
>
> He doesn't depend on "public transportation"? How do you think his
> Chinese made plastic winder machine got across the Pacific Ocean?
Well, it was rather the elites --the masters-- who decided to import
from China, so don't blame me. But I think it's better a bike made in
China than an SUV in America.
>
> "Free to roam free"? A rather strange statement from an individual who
> was terrified to walk the streets in New York.
>
> You seem to know very little about the subjects upon which you
> pontificate.
I was NOT afraid to walk the streets of NYC. I actually found it
exciting and invigorating. Nothing like a good walk, short of riding a
bike. I'm walking more and more even though the conditions here are
deplorable. Well, if I choose to walk to my GF's apartment is a rather
nice walk of 2 miles R/T. It's actually very difficult to ride a bike
and be bumping into pedestrians and cars.
My choice of walking is rather the acceptance of being a cockroach
crawling around with little fun. Fun is a monkey concept not accepted
in America. The rat race is rather the norm but that's more fit for
rats.
My shoes are also made in China but I'm not picky. My kayak is made in
France, if you want to know. They got a socialist system that is
rather friendly to people having fun. Velib, I hear, is a great
bicycle program in Paris. Not at all like here in the capitalist
jungle.
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:54:11 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the Wise
> >On Jan 31, 5:54 am, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:14:44 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the Wise
> >> >"EVOLUTION AND REVOLUTION"
>
> >> >http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/coldoffthepresses/evand...
>
> >> >***
>
> >> >It even talks about the role of Christians and Jews in "civilization."
> >> >I think there's civilization everywhere but it's mostly found in
> >> >Northern Europe nowadays. When people must live in citadels like the
> >> >Middle Ages there's something terribly wrong with that system. Israel
> >> >is a citadel itself, so we know there's little civilization in the
> >> >area.
>
> >> You are quoting from a document that was published in 1891. I really
> >> hate to be the one to tell you but there has been rather significant
> >> additions to the world's knowledge base in the past 120 years.
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
>
> >> John B.
>
> >That's modern compared to the Bible. But it reads as if was written
> >yesterday. Communism didn't work, capitalism is killing the planet, so
> >some anarchism doesn't hurt. Think about it and you'll realize the
> >cyclist is the perfect anarchist. He doesn't feed the capitalist
> >grinding machine nor does he depend on public transportation. Though
> >very much needed, public transportation entails a bureaucracy. You
> >wonder why the buses are so noisy and full of idiots. Instead, you
> >dictate your schedule and you are able to roam free.
>
> >We just need to tame the machine that's killing us.
>
> The bicyclist doesn't feed the capitalist machine? With his $5,000
> plastic bicycle? With his snobbish disdain of any type of bicycle
> except "his" kind?
Those cyclists got nothing to do with practical cyclists with panniers
doing errands in their community. Their bicycle is probably made of
steel, which represents the metal of the working class, idealists and
revolutionaries.
>
> He doesn't depend on "public transportation"? How do you think his
> Chinese made plastic winder machine got across the Pacific Ocean?
Well, it was rather the elites --the masters-- who decided to import
from China, so don't blame me. But I think it's better a bike made in
China than an SUV in America.
>
> "Free to roam free"? A rather strange statement from an individual who
> was terrified to walk the streets in New York.
>
> You seem to know very little about the subjects upon which you
> pontificate.
I was NOT afraid to walk the streets of NYC. I actually found it
exciting and invigorating. Nothing like a good walk, short of riding a
bike. I'm walking more and more even though the conditions here are
deplorable. Well, if I choose to walk to my GF's apartment is a rather
nice walk of 2 miles R/T. It's actually very difficult to ride a bike
and be bumping into pedestrians and cars.
My choice of walking is rather the acceptance of being a cockroach
crawling around with little fun. Fun is a monkey concept not accepted
in America. The rat race is rather the norm but that's more fit for
rats.
My shoes are also made in China but I'm not picky. My kayak is made in
France, if you want to know. They got a socialist system that is
rather friendly to people having fun. Velib, I hear, is a great
bicycle program in Paris. Not at all like here in the capitalist
jungle.
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Feb 3, 2013, 2:58:45 PM2/3/13
to
On Jan 30, 7:19 pm, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:54:14 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the Wise
> >"Tribalism south of the Sahara remains the dominant political force,
> >and with it poverty, exploitation and genocide, still holds back the
> >region's development."
> >***
>
> >I hope you see the light now.
>
> Tribalism is the dominant force everywhere.
>
> But to paraphrase someone or another, "You know very little about the
> subjects that you discuss".
Let me get to this issue which separates the Jews from the gentiles,
ie. tribalism.
It seems to me tribalism is something that you are born into, not
something you adopt later in life. It's not like "Hey, I want to be
Jew!" and you are in the tribe. This tribe feels superior to any other
tribe by reason of their god. Christianity by contrast is something
you can join anytime.
I'm not saying Christians are much better than Jews. They both draw
from the same God and they deny a quality life so they can reach death/
Armageddon to end everything. So the end is the beginning for them.
There's something worse than death: DENYING PEOPLE A QUALITY LIFE THEY
COULD EASILY GET.
Then riding a bike becomes a struggle for survival instead of a nice
social event. The Jews are sicko and Christians follow next.
But that's only my humble opinion.
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:54:14 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the Wise
> >"Tribalism south of the Sahara remains the dominant political force,
> >and with it poverty, exploitation and genocide, still holds back the
> >region's development."
> >***
>
> >I hope you see the light now.
>
> Tribalism is the dominant force everywhere.
>
> But to paraphrase someone or another, "You know very little about the
> subjects that you discuss".
Let me get to this issue which separates the Jews from the gentiles,
ie. tribalism.
It seems to me tribalism is something that you are born into, not
something you adopt later in life. It's not like "Hey, I want to be
Jew!" and you are in the tribe. This tribe feels superior to any other
tribe by reason of their god. Christianity by contrast is something
you can join anytime.
I'm not saying Christians are much better than Jews. They both draw
from the same God and they deny a quality life so they can reach death/
Armageddon to end everything. So the end is the beginning for them.
There's something worse than death: DENYING PEOPLE A QUALITY LIFE THEY
COULD EASILY GET.
Then riding a bike becomes a struggle for survival instead of a nice
social event. The Jews are sicko and Christians follow next.
But that's only my humble opinion.
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, the Most Humble Philosopher Alive
Feb 8, 2013, 10:49:45 AM2/8/13
to
Generally we kayakers know the true people are Eskimos but for those
who still follow the Abrahamic model here are some true facts:
On Feb 8, 12:05 am, Bob Dubery <megap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 7, 7:56 am, Bob Dubery <megap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>> No, but at some point laws got introduced that served to mark one as
> > Jewish and, of course, one can become Jewish even though one's
> > ancestors were not. But Noah predates anything like what came to be
> > recognised as Judaism.
>
> > One of the essentials of Judaism is monotheism, and Abraham seems to
> > have been the first proponent of monotheism. Indeed he seems to be the
> > root of all monotheistic religion, to the point that Judaism,
> > Christianity and Islam are collectively referred to as the Abrahmic
> > religions.
>
> So I dug out Paul Johnson's "A History of the Jews" last night.
> Johnson submits that Judaism really begins with Abraham because it was
> Abraham who first entered into an explicit covenant with God. This
> covenant came to be a key differentiator between Judaism and any other
> religion of that time and for several centuries after.
'About 4,000 years ago the ancestors of the Hebrews were wandering
nomads. Biblical tradition says that Abraham, the founder of the line,
came from Ur, but we cannot be sure that this was the Ur located in
Mesopotamia. There are no records of these people except for the
traditions laid down in the Bible many centuries later. The story says
that Abraham entered Canaan briefly, and God promised him that his
descendents would inherit the land. This is the earliest mention of a
claim which was to prove controversial right down to the present day.
It is the religious basis of the tradition that Israel belongs to the
Jewish people because it was promised to them by God. Of course a long
string of other inhabitants, from the Canaanites and Philistines to
the modern Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians," have disagreed.'
http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/wcsyllabus/answers/jews.html
***
Oh well, God made the promise so it must be true. The other people who
lay claim to the land must be godless savages, just like they were
before Abraham.
who still follow the Abrahamic model here are some true facts:
On Feb 8, 12:05 am, Bob Dubery <megap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 7, 7:56 am, Bob Dubery <megap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>> No, but at some point laws got introduced that served to mark one as
> > Jewish and, of course, one can become Jewish even though one's
> > ancestors were not. But Noah predates anything like what came to be
> > recognised as Judaism.
>
> > One of the essentials of Judaism is monotheism, and Abraham seems to
> > have been the first proponent of monotheism. Indeed he seems to be the
> > root of all monotheistic religion, to the point that Judaism,
> > Christianity and Islam are collectively referred to as the Abrahmic
> > religions.
>
> So I dug out Paul Johnson's "A History of the Jews" last night.
> Johnson submits that Judaism really begins with Abraham because it was
> Abraham who first entered into an explicit covenant with God. This
> covenant came to be a key differentiator between Judaism and any other
> religion of that time and for several centuries after.
'About 4,000 years ago the ancestors of the Hebrews were wandering
nomads. Biblical tradition says that Abraham, the founder of the line,
came from Ur, but we cannot be sure that this was the Ur located in
Mesopotamia. There are no records of these people except for the
traditions laid down in the Bible many centuries later. The story says
that Abraham entered Canaan briefly, and God promised him that his
descendents would inherit the land. This is the earliest mention of a
claim which was to prove controversial right down to the present day.
It is the religious basis of the tradition that Israel belongs to the
Jewish people because it was promised to them by God. Of course a long
string of other inhabitants, from the Canaanites and Philistines to
the modern Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians," have disagreed.'
http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/wcsyllabus/answers/jews.html
***
Oh well, God made the promise so it must be true. The other people who
lay claim to the land must be godless savages, just like they were
before Abraham.
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Feb 9, 2013, 2:22:39 PM2/9/13
to
On Feb 9, 1:31 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://trialparts.net/29-89-large/ozonys-king-of-dunce-24.jpg
There are three types of Jews that do not fit the norm:
1- Those who ride bikes and kayaks,
2- Those in the kibbutz,
3- Those who speak up the truth.
"cultures that tend to resent the economically successful – either as
an affront to equality, or on the implicit assumption that the
economic gains of some must be at the expense of others – tend to be
more hostile toward Jews and given to conspiratorial theories to
explain their economic success. Most societies lie somewhere along a
spectrum between these two poles.
Some social scientists are wary of calling attention to the reality of
disproportionate Jewish economic success for fear of arousing anti-
Semitism, or contributing to conspiratorial theories about Jewish
economic dominance. No doubt, conspiratorial minds will always find
fodder for their obsessions."
Read more at http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/why-do-jews-succeed-#8WvAP1iFVezLF5id.99
> http://trialparts.net/29-89-large/ozonys-king-of-dunce-24.jpg
There are three types of Jews that do not fit the norm:
1- Those who ride bikes and kayaks,
2- Those in the kibbutz,
3- Those who speak up the truth.
"cultures that tend to resent the economically successful – either as
an affront to equality, or on the implicit assumption that the
economic gains of some must be at the expense of others – tend to be
more hostile toward Jews and given to conspiratorial theories to
explain their economic success. Most societies lie somewhere along a
spectrum between these two poles.
Some social scientists are wary of calling attention to the reality of
disproportionate Jewish economic success for fear of arousing anti-
Semitism, or contributing to conspiratorial theories about Jewish
economic dominance. No doubt, conspiratorial minds will always find
fodder for their obsessions."
Read more at http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/why-do-jews-succeed-#8WvAP1iFVezLF5id.99
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