fyi:Jan 1, 1999! The "MAN diesel ALERT" Newsletter went on the Net & in Print.
PISTONFAIL
The main items in this first issue are:
1)The string of Proof-An irrefutable paper track confirms MAN Failures.
2)The Public Response-International reaction to Man marine engine piston
failures.
3)Owner Testimonials-It happened to them and to many others.
You may e-mail your request for a free copy of our 4 color MAN ALERT
Newsletter to
pisto...@aol.com
If you are in the marine industry and wish to distribute this Newsletter at
the upcoming Boat Shows or just to Mail them to your customers, please e-mail
me at: pisto...@aol.com
I was told at the Fort Lauderdale Boat show in Oct/Nov 98 by Pat Healy of
Viking Yachts that MAN was going to upgrade the pistons in 100 MAN engines.
Mind you they were not issuing a recall!
MAN has sold around 2000 engines in the USA since 1989. We have documented over
230 piston failures and the number still grows. And MAN upgrades 100 engines!
And they will take 18 months to upgrade these 100 engines. What is with their
dealer network that they need a year and a half to rebuild 100 engines?
And what about the hundreds of others?
And what about the ones that broke and were rebuilt at the owner's expense?
And what about the ones that broke again and once more were repaired at the
owner's expense?
Some people will never learn to be straight to the point. MAN told the public
in their various news releases that only 1.5% of all MAN engines had piston
failures. What they need to tell is what is the true % of MAN piston failures
in the D28 series of engines in the USA.! Viking and all the other
manufacturers of boats who have used these engines should tell you what % of
their boats with MAN engines have had piston failures. Out of about 1000 boats
with MAN engines in America, We have documented well over 130 boats that have
experienced piston failures. That is well over 1.5 % regardless of how you look
at it. So much for straight to the point!
Stay tuned. This is not over yet.
Over 238 MAN engine PISTON FAILURES! So much for German engineering!! The
number keeps growing (well over 200 now!). These failures took place in
6,8,10,12 cylinder models at 1000 hours or less!
GO TO : http://www.elalouf.com
for facts, lab reports, interesting and enlightning letters, picture album of
my 12 cylinder engine after it exploded violently at 1000 hours with the MAN
service representative on board.
Please note, in the last 90 days, I have received over 56,000 hits on my web
site. Because of this huge success, I have expanded my site. I have dug up an
incredible collection of signed documents. I promise you some enlightening
reading from an interesting cast of characters as well as dozens of
testimonials from Man
engine owners.
For your information, the case in Florida against the German Man Co. is not
over yet as Man would lead you to beleive. Florida Man did not accept
responsibility for my Man engines. They did not make them, they did not sell
them to me, therefore they are not responsible in Florida because of privity
laws. But in no way have they addressed the issue of the 200+ failures in
America that I have documented. In no way have they addressed the fact that
they kept selling these engines telling every one they were the best most
efficient, longest lasting engines on the market (10,000-20,000 hours before a
refit) when they knew for years they were having piston failures. These issues
are still in front of the Florida Court to be decided on a claim of
deceptive and unfair trade practices .
We also expect a class action suit to be filed soon in a northern court. We
will keep you informed.
BOAT BRANDS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED PISTON FAILURES
Group A (10 to 30 failures each)/
Viking Yachts, Ocean Yachts, Bay Marine, Bertram Yachts, Ricky Scarborough,
Hatteras.
Group B (4 to 7 failures each)/
Davis Yachts, Jim Smith, Shore Boat builders, Sunseeker, Berger yachts ,
Craig
Blackwell, Derektor yachts, Sportsman.
Group C ( 1to 3 failures each)/
American Yachts, Antago Yachts, Azimut yachts, B. C. Boats, Bahia, Black Fin,
Downeaster, Duffy & Duffy, Fairline Marine, Forbes, G & S Boats, Garlington,
Henriques, Heritage, Hi Tech, Leopard, Manely, Merrit, Mikelson, Monteray
Yachts,
Neptunus, Northcoast, Post, Revenge ,Riva , Starship, Versilcraft.
Several commercial vessels whose manufacturers will not be listed here
experienced 26 piston failures between them.
Please send us your experiences with MAN marine diesel engine piston failures:
Sion Elalouf
516-546-6871 FAX
pisto...@aol.com
Tell me, what reason was given for the piston upgrade? Mind you it is not a
recall!
What boat brands does it cover? Why only one hundred engines? Why 18 months to
upgrade 100 engines?Your help is appreciated and as you know, I keep my sources
confidential.
Woody
the past 2 years. Please don't continue this thread in this ng.While I am a
powerboater, I suspect that 80% or better of this ng's members are sailboaters. As
a YANMAR and VOLVO dealer, I must tell you I haven't seen any MAN engines on any
sailboats lately. LOL
Cap'n Woody
cap...@flash.net
>
> I have beenn inundated with your literature at every boat show I have attended for
> the past 2 years. Please don't continue this thread in this ng.While I am a
> powerboater, I suspect that 80% or better of this ng's members are sailboaters. As
> a YANMAR and VOLVO dealer, I must tell you I haven't seen any MAN engines on any
> sailboats lately. LOL
> Cap'n Woody
Cap'n Woody---I'm not so sure that 80% or better of this ng are
sailboaters but that is besides the point. Have you read the evidence
this gentleman has collected? When boat builders, distributors, and even
the Royal Canadian Mounted Police are having problems with MAN engines,
I think it benefits all of us to know about it. If you are a Yanmar &
Volvo dealer, I would think you would welcome documentation that shows
one of your competitors has serious problems with their products and
their warranties. I'm not sure why this post upsets you so much but if
it does just don't read it. It's obvious from the subject what this is
about. There are threads that I find totally worthless but if a couple
of goofballs want to discuss which brand of roller furling has the most
glare in southern latitudes, I say leave 'em alone. I encourage anyone
who has something to contribute to join in no matter what the topic or
their position. This ng isn't for any one group of boaters so lighten up
Woody. Ease up on the caffeine and for God's sake, don't take any
Viagra.
Cap