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joe blow

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There's an outfit that is always at the boat shows which deals in
Sunbrella and other marine fabrics as well as threads, snaps, zippers
and other marine canvas supplies. Does anyone know how to get in
touch with this outfit. Help would be appreciated.

Joe

Richard & Carol Ray

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gc

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www.sailrite.com


Ply Hull Design Shareware at
http://www.carlsondesign.com

LARRY LONG

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Peggie Hall

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Just about any patio/outdoor furniture shop carries Sunbrella...and many
more colors and patterns than marine sources.

Peggie

joe blow wrote:
>
> There's an outfit that is always at the boat shows which deals in
> Sunbrella and other marine fabrics as well as threads, snaps, zippers
> and other marine canvas supplies. Does anyone know how to get in
> touch with this outfit. Help would be appreciated.
>

> Joe

Rich Hampel

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If you want real plush fabric, go to an automotive fabric supply house - you can find them in most
larger cities.

Bill

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Try http://www.atrim.com/ . Sunbrella is hard to find on the site,
but is cheaper than others I've seen.

BS

Peggie Hall

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Actually, there is no such thing as "marine" fabric or carpet...just
materials that are suitable for use on a boat. Boat builders usually go
with the least expensive (and therefore lowest quality) they can get
away with. Since they buy a zillion bolts of the same fabrics and
carpets, they can save even more...but in the quantities any individual
boat owner needs, it doesn't matter where you buy it. Interior cabin
upholstery fabrics of all qualities are available from automotive
upholstery shops and discount fabric warehouses...carpeting for the
cabin or the cockpit from carpet retailers...cockpit upholstery
materials from outdoor furniture dealers, etc. Just think about "land"
uses for the same thing you need for the boat, and start shopping. And
you can often save quite a bit if you find a carpet remnant (iow, not
enough left on the bolt to carpet an entire house), or the last
marked-down bolt or two of "last year's hot new color" in drapery or
upholstery fabrics.

Peggie

Peggie

Peggie

Rich Hampel wrote:
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> If you want real plush fabric, go to an automotive fabric supply house - you can find them in most
> larger cities.
>
> Peggie Hall wrote:
>
> > Just about any patio/outdoor furniture shop carries Sunbrella...and many
> > more colors and patterns than marine sources.
> >
> > Peggie
> >

dws

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tal...@my-deja.com

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In article <37A6DE97...@att.net>,
> > > > There's an outfit that is always at the boat shows which deals
in
> > > > Sunbrella and other marine fabrics as well as threads, snaps,
zippers
> > > > and other marine canvas supplies. Does anyone know how to get
in
> > > > touch with this outfit. Help would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
>


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tal...@my-deja.com

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>I have been in the auto upholstery business for many years. I agree
that when boats are manufactured, costs are sometimes cut. However,
there are marine fabrics. Part of my business is retail sales of
marine materials and there are many manufacturers which specifically
deal in these products. Hope this helps
tallyd

d_...@my-deja.com

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I agree with Peggie...
Although we have used Sailrite for a variety of things (heavy duty
zipper tape, sailmaking thread, etc), we've always managed to find
fabric through non-marine channels. My wife made all new interior
cushions for our boat using upholstry fabric from a local discount
fabric store. Curtains too. We haven't found a local supplier for
Sunbrella, however, so we'll probably buy this from Sailrite when she
goes to make a new sailcover & helm cover this winter.

-Dave

Anders Svensson

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tal...@my-deja.com skrev:

> I have been in the auto upholstery business for many years. I agree
> that when boats are manufactured, costs are sometimes cut. However,
> there are marine fabrics. Part of my business is retail sales of
> marine materials and there are many manufacturers which specifically
> deal in these products. Hope this helps
> tallyd

What *would* be the difference between a "marine" carpet or fabric, compared
to a automotive ? Just so we know what to look for... :-)

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> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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Rich Hampel

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Marine fabrics may be subject to more ultraviolet, and water etc. than automotive grades and
therefore have the appropriate coatings, retardants, etc. within the fiber matrix and on the cloth
surface.
Its mostly a matter of degree of different finishes of and on the fabric.

Bill

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Dave

I have not looked in a few months but the last time I did Sailrite was
about $18 yd for Sumbrells and http://www.atrim.com/ (an auto trim
place with a toll free number) was 12.95 I think!!!

so look around

Bill
http://members.clnk.com/willies/sailing.html

On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:43:28 GMT, d_...@my-deja.com wrote:

>I agree with Peggie...
>Although we have used Sailrite for a variety of things (heavy duty
>zipper tape, sailmaking thread, etc), we've always managed to find
>fabric through non-marine channels. My wife made all new interior
>cushions for our boat using upholstry fabric from a local discount
>fabric store. Curtains too. We haven't found a local supplier for
>Sunbrella, however, so we'll probably buy this from Sailrite when she
>goes to make a new sailcover & helm cover this winter.
>
>-Dave
>
>

Anders Svensson

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This much I already understand.

But how on earth do I check on what I get, not what I am sold... :-)

Anders

Rich Hampel skrev:

> Marine fabrics may be subject to more ultraviolet, and water etc. than automotive grades and
> therefore have the appropriate coatings, retardants, etc. within the fiber matrix and on the cloth
> surface.
> Its mostly a matter of degree of different finishes of and on the fabric.
>
> Anders Svensson wrote:
>
> > tal...@my-deja.com skrev:
> >
> > > I have been in the auto upholstery business for many years. I agree
> > > that when boats are manufactured, costs are sometimes cut. However,
> > > there are marine fabrics. Part of my business is retail sales of
> > > marine materials and there are many manufacturers which specifically
> > > deal in these products. Hope this helps
> > > tallyd
> >
> > What *would* be the difference between a "marine" carpet or fabric, compared
> > to a automotive ? Just so we know what to look for... :-)
> >

> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
> >

Peggie Hall

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tal...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >I have been in the auto upholstery business for many years. I agree
> that when boats are manufactured, costs are sometimes cut. However,
> there are marine fabrics. Part of my business is retail sales of
> marine materials and there are many manufacturers which specifically
> deal in these products. Hope this helps

What makes a material specifically "marine" as opposed to "suitable for
marine use" and therefore only marketed as "marine" instead of being
made differently from any other material that can stand up to heat,
humidity, moisture, and UV exposure?

After all, there's not really any difference between a boat cockpit and
a patio when it comes to suitable material for cushions...nor between an
un-air conditioned beach cottage and a boat cabin when it comes to
suitable cabin carpet and upholstery material. So what's the difference
between these materials and "marine" materials?

Peggie

Glenn Ashmore

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Peggie Hall wrote:

> tal...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > >I have been in the auto upholstery business for many years. I agree
> > that when boats are manufactured, costs are sometimes cut. However,
> > there are marine fabrics. Part of my business is retail sales of
> > marine materials and there are many manufacturers which specifically
> > deal in these products. Hope this helps
>
> What makes a material specifically "marine" as opposed to "suitable for
> marine use" and therefore only marketed as "marine" instead of being
> made differently from any other material that can stand up to heat,
> humidity, moisture, and UV exposure?

About the only example I can think of is sail cloth. But that is not what
we are discussing here.

The local canvas shop that specializes in awnings and patio furniture and
has never even seen a bimini or a dodger, carries Sunbrella and mildew
resistand "marine" vinyls in stock. They do make boat covers but they use
regular awning canvas because their customers get sticker shock when
presented with a proposal for Sunbrella.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.mindspring.com/~gashmore

Bill

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Peggie Hall <peg...@att.net> wrote in message
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>tal...@my-deja.com wrote:

No difference between a boat cockpit and a patio???? Where do you sail your
rubber ducky, in the bath tub?

Jon V.

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On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Bill wrote:

>
> Peggie Hall <peg...@att.net> wrote:
> >After all, there's not really any difference between a boat cockpit and
> >a patio when it comes to suitable material for cushions...nor between an
> >un-air conditioned beach cottage and a boat cabin when it comes to
> >suitable cabin carpet and upholstery material. So what's the difference
> >between these materials and "marine" materials?
>
> No difference between a boat cockpit and a patio???? Where do you sail your
> rubber ducky, in the bath tub?

Actually, I think she boats on a lake... but she is still right.

Back when I lived really near the ocean, my patio furniture went through
hell. During the summer, each morning it would be soaked with dew, and
then in the afternoon it would get blasted by the sun, and at night cats
would piss on it. The winter wasn't much better.... just some extra rain.

Inside the house wasn't much better. Everything would get soaked daily,
fungi ran wild, etc. During certain times of year if you didn't run the
A/C at night there was a good chance that you would be woken by drops of
dew falling from the ceiling!

Any wall surface that didn't get aired out at least once a month (move the
couch away from the wall, set fans out, etc.) would develop a nice coat of
fungus.

The stuff in my boat's cockpit doesn't go through much worse, and at least
some of the water that gets on it is salt water... much less problem with
fungus.

-Jon

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Peggie Hall

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"Jon V." wrote:
> >
> > No difference between a boat cockpit and a patio????

They don't have patios on the coast????

> Where do you sail your
> > rubber ducky, in the bath tub?

Hey, darlin'...if the bathtub is in cottage on the Carolina (Maine,
Florida, Massachusetts, Georgia, Virginia, Maryland...want me to
continue?) coast..that ducky is gonna be subject to the same conditions
as a boat.



> Actually, I think she boats on a lake...

I do..in GA...where heat, humidity, and UV is just as big a problem as
it is anywhere else (with the possible exception of Houston).

> but she is still right.

Thank you! :-)))


> Back when I lived really near the ocean, my patio furniture went through
> hell. During the summer, each morning it would be soaked with dew, and
> then in the afternoon it would get blasted by the sun, and at night cats
> would piss on it. The winter wasn't much better.... just some extra rain.
>
> Inside the house wasn't much better. Everything would get soaked daily,
> fungi ran wild, etc. During certain times of year if you didn't run the
> A/C at night there was a good chance that you would be woken by drops of
> dew falling from the ceiling!
>
> Any wall surface that didn't get aired out at least once a month (move the
> couch away from the wall, set fans out, etc.) would develop a nice coat of
> fungus.
>
> The stuff in my boat's cockpit doesn't go through much worse, and at least
> some of the water that gets on it is salt water... much less problem with
> fungus.

Just corrosion. :-)

Peggie

Jon V.

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A quick note... I didn't write the ducky stuff... I quoted it... not that
it makes much difference, but I do have *some* standards. :-)

-Jon

On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Peggie Hall wrote:

> "Jon V." wrote:
> > >
> > > No difference between a boat cockpit and a patio????
>
> They don't have patios on the coast????
>
> > Where do you sail your
> > > rubber ducky, in the bath tub?
>
> Hey, darlin'...if the bathtub is in cottage on the Carolina (Maine,
> Florida, Massachusetts, Georgia, Virginia, Maryland...want me to
> continue?) coast..that ducky is gonna be subject to the same conditions
> as a boat.
>
> > Actually, I think she boats on a lake...
>
> I do..in GA...where heat, humidity, and UV is just as big a problem as
> it is anywhere else (with the possible exception of Houston).
>
> > but she is still right.
>
> Thank you! :-)))

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Peggie Hall

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"Jon V." wrote:
>
> A quick note... I didn't write the ducky stuff... I quoted it... not that
> it makes much difference, but I do have *some* standards. :-)

I wasn't tying it to your tail...just responding to it. :-)

Peggie

Don Knull

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In article <37a62fba...@news.cais.com>, j...@noaddress.com (joe blow)
wrote:

> There's an outfit that is always at the boat shows which deals in
> Sunbrella and other marine fabrics as well as threads, snaps, zippers
> and other marine canvas supplies. Does anyone know how to get in
> touch with this outfit. Help would be appreciated.
>
> Joe

If you happen to be near Seattle, there's an outfit on Aurora Ave N.
called Seattle Fabrics that has a great selection of Sunbrella and many
other outdoor materials like tent cloth, pack cloth, etc. and zippers,
fasteners, cordage, etc.

Neat place

--
Don
SV Stringendo - J/32 Web Site at http://www.seanet.com/~herbie/

Marv Shirley

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Aug 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/15/99
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A good source for marine fabric is Defender Inds. There prices are
reasonable and there's no sales tax. They publish a very comprehensive
catalog. They also have a website. Marv


dogbre...@my-deja.com

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> > > joe blow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There's an outfit that is always at the
boat shows which deals in
> > > > Sunbrella and other marine fabrics as
well as threads, snaps, zippers
> > > > and other marine canvas supplies. Does
anyone know how to get in
> > > > touch with this outfit. Help would be
appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
>Hey Joe, Check out
http://www.glfi.com/marinecatalog.htm. They may
have what you need in the way of marine canvas
and supplies.
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