What is a bugeye ketch?

[john...@my-deja.com]

How would one define a "bugeye ketch? They're nice looking, but I'm
not exactly sure what makes it a "bugeye"?

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[Dave Woodman]

hull shape, bottom planking scheme, raked spars, centerboard rig, what else?
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[john...@my-deja.com]

Thanks, Dave, but what about that planking? What about that hull shape?
You've got a centerboard ketch with raked spars. What else is required
to call it a "bugeye?" John

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[sw...@my-deja.com]

Bugeyes are, or were, traditional oystering boats on the Chesapeake
Bay. Shallow draft, centerboard workboats, usually with the bottoms
diagonally planked in the "Chesapeake" style that was also used for
skipjacks. Low aspect ratio makes them very distinctive. I'm not sure
how they're different from skipjacks, another traditional working
sailboat on the Bay, apart from the number of masts.

Hull shape was often hard-chined to facilitate building and planking.

Last I heard, there were special regulation in place to allow these
"working sail" to harvest oysters before the regular motorized fishing
boats, in an effort to keep the tradition going.

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[Dave Cannell]

Sorry, Bugeyes are log built boats while skipjacks are "usually"
diagonally planked. If you'd like to see examples of both come to the
MASCF (Mid-Atlantic Small Craft Festival) this weekend in St. Michaels,
MD. "Rosie Parks" is a skipjack built by Bronza Parks and "Edna Lockwood"
is a bugeye that's over 100 years old. BTW - You don't have to come this
weekend, the boats are almost always there but this WILL be a FUN weekend,
as usual 8-)

Dave (who has missed the MASCF for too many years) Cannell

[sw...@my-deja.com]

That's right, of course they're log built. Years ago while spending the
summer in Chestertown I discovered an old book on log canoes,
skipjacks, and bugeyes, complete with photos and lines drawings in an
appendix. Priceless. One time a family friend showed me the never-
completed beginnings of an old log canoe, mouldering in the back room
of an old hardware store.

Thanks for the correction. I wish I could make it to the MASCF -- it's
good to know there are still some of the old beauties left.

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[mike goodwin]

Also Skipjacks have a transom and bugeyes are double ended or called a "patent
stern", I used to have a 75'od the 'C.F. Miles' last log built bugeye untill
recent times .Alas , she is no longer with us .

Mike

[bru...@eudoramail.com]

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john...@my-deja.com wrote:
> How would one define a "bugeye ketch? They're nice looking, but I'm
> not exactly sure what makes it a "bugeye"?

Last night I looked up the bugeye (which I had never heard of)
in this wonderful book I picked up earlier this year at a 2nd
hand bookshop in Daylesford, Victoria (Australia). The book is
"The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ships, Boats, Vessels and other
water-borne Craft" by Graham Blackburn.

This is a truly charming and comprehensive book which gives a
brief description and a small sketch of thousands of boat types
from around the world (although I suspect a bit of a leaning
towards historical American types). The descriptions are all
hand-written.

I don't know whether Mr Blackburn is a recognised authority,
but this is what he has to say about the bugeye:

The Bugeye, which gets its name from the old practice of
painting an eye on both sides of the bow, was a larger
development of the SKIPJACK, used for offshore fishing in
the Chesapeake Bay area. Originally a workboat it was
later distinctively rigged as a shallow-draught yacht with
two leg-of-mutton sails. The masts also have a distinctive
excessive rake aft.

Bruce.

[jfsh...@gmail.com]

I worked on the C.F. Miles,with Charlie Simpkins and Al Parker out of Little Creek in the eighties.We were crab dredging, I loved that boat.Had a lot of character, the planking was amazing,fore and aft,double ended,I remember some of the planks were over 3 or 4 feet wide,the keelson was so wide I could not step over it,and I am six two, I had to step on it to cross over it. It had a Murphy six cylinder Diesel engine..what ever happened to it,I heard it sank in Carolina.