Registration questions
bruce@not
GA, but the last time it was registered was in FL. So far I
haven't been able to contact the last person who registered it,
or even find out who they are. The GA DNR told me to contact the
FL DNR, but it looks like in FL the DMV handles boat
registration. Can anyone tell me the best way of going about
this?
Thanks for any help!
jpj...@psbnewton.com
Is there a name on the Bill of Sale? Does the Florida registration
have a name on it?
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Wilbur Hubbard
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Definitely register it in Florida if you can. It will cost you less than
four dollars.
Florida has this new classic boat registration. Any boat over 30 years old
with original power can be registered as a classic for only the cost of the
sticker ($3.50)
My classic, blue water, 27-foot, Coronado sailing yacht will cost me $3.50
per year to register from now on as she was commissioned in 1972. It used to
cost 60 bucks about fifteen years ago, 80 bucks about ten years ago and has
been upped to 140 bucks this year.
Wilbur Hubbard
Scott Dickson
wrote:
Up here, (Canada) when you go to transfer it over, they (CCG) go by
the numbers already on the boat. It cost me 10 bucks to change it
over, but you do NOT get an ownership like you would with a Car. The
printout sheet is all they give you now-adays.
Wayne.B
I have heard from reliable sources that it is easier to register a
boat in Georgia if the chain of ownership is unclear. Essentially it
is an unregistered boat now. Go to Georgia with a notarized
bill-of-sale and that should get you started.
Tom Francis - SWSports
I agree with Wayne - if you have a notarized bill of sale you should
be fine. Georgia is a non-title state, so even a non-notarized
bill-of-sale should be sufficient. There isn't a title registration
process so there shouldn't be any question as to chain of ownership.
If I remember correctly, there are something like 12 or 13 states that
do not require or issue titles. In New England, it's Connecticut,
Maine and New Hampshire. Down south it's Alabama, Georgia and
Louisiana - as I remember it.
In fact, a few years ago, there was an interstate theft ring who would
haunt interstate highways looking for late model boats from non-title
states. They would steal a boat with a CT registation for example,
re-register it in say Alabama, then flip that registration to a title
state like Mississippi. A friend of mine had his Ranger stolen a few
years ago and that's what happened. They finally found the boat in
New York two years later and only because it was insured through the
same company that originally insured it. The serial number gave it
away.
Tosk
remov...@rejectswsportsdot.org says...
Yeah, I built a beautiful sailboat for a guy a few years back and it got
stolen. Cods said "it went south"...
Wayne.B
<remov...@rejectswsportsdot.org> wrote:
>In fact, a few years ago, there was an interstate theft ring who would
>haunt interstate highways looking for late model boats from non-title
>states. They would steal a boat with a CT registation for example,
>re-register it in say Alabama, then flip that registration to a title
>state like Mississippi.
That's the way it's done around here for boats having no title -
useful trick for garage sale specials, etc.
Loogypicker
In GA, if you have a bill of sale from the seller, you're good to go.
Tosk
@a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, loogy...@gmail.com says...
Yeah, great for the boat thieves who work in this area. It's
irresponsible of the Georgian govt to allow that to happen so freely.
It's not like they don't know it's happening...
Loogypicker
> In article <7d7c2a8d-7445-402e-a63c-6e548cc87289
>
>
>
> > On Oct 21, 4:19 pm, bruce@not. wrote:
> > > I bought an old 1977 runabout and want to get it registered in
> > > GA, but the last time it was registered was in FL. So far I
> > > haven't been able to contact the last person who registered it,
> > > or even find out who they are. The GA DNR told me to contact the
> > > FL DNR, but it looks like in FL the DMV handles boat
> > > registration. Can anyone tell me the best way of going about
> > > this?
>
> > > Thanks for any help!
>
> > In GA, if you have a bill of sale from the seller, you're good to go.
>
> Yeah, great for the boat thieves who work in this area. It's
> irresponsible of the Georgian govt to allow that to happen so freely.
> It's not like they don't know it's happening...
Nope. If not homemade, the database has the hull ID number.
JustWaitAFrekinMinute!
The one they stole up here was "homemade"
http://smallboats.com/boats_cartopper.htm
and had a hin number on the transom and one "hidden" number as
required by law... Either way, I am not saying it's your fault, but
the cops up here were well aware that it probably went to Georgia to
be "cleaned"...
Loogypicker
>
> - Show quoted text -
Many, many states do exactly the same. So I guess my question to the
cops would be - How in hell are you "well aware" that it "probably"
went to GA?
Tosk
@e34g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>, loogy...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 22, 11:31ï¿œam, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
> <justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 22, 11:21ï¿œam, Loogypicker <loogypic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 22, 10:37ï¿œam, Tosk <justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > In article <7d7c2a8d-7445-402e-a63c-6e548cc87289
> > > > @a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, loogypic...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > > > > > I bought an old 1977 runabout and want to get it registered in
> > > > > > GA, but the last time it was registered was in FL. So far I
> > > > > > haven't been able to contact the last person who registered it,
> > > > > > or even find out who they are. The GA DNR told me to contact the
> > > > > > FL DNR, but it looks like in FL the DMV handles boat
> > > > > > registration. Can anyone tell me the best way of going about
> > > > > > this?
> >
> > > > > > Thanks for any help!
> >
> > > > > In GA, if you have a bill of sale from the seller, you're good to go.
> >
> > > > Yeah, great for the boat thieves who work in this area. It's
> > > > irresponsible of the Georgian govt to allow that to happen so freely.
> > > > It's not like they don't know it's happening...
> >
> > > Nope. If not homemade, the database has the hull ID number.
> >
> > The one they stole up here was "homemade"
> >
> > http://smallboats.com/boats_cartopper.htm
> >
> > and had a hin number on the transom and one "hidden" number as
> > required by law... Either way, I am not saying it's your fault, but
> > the cops up here were well aware that it probably went to Georgia to
> > be "cleaned"...- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Many, many states do exactly the same. So I guess my question to the
> cops would be - How in hell are you "well aware" that it "probably"
> went to GA?
Hummm wrong guy to ask about cops ;)
bruce@not
Thanks to all of you for your help on this! I called the GA DNR
and told them I have a notorised BOS, so the girl on the phone
began helping me continue with the registration process. Then we
got to the part where she asked me if it was an open boat, or a
cabin, or home made, etc... I told here that I had put a roof
over it and some windows so she put me on hold for a minute, then
came back and said since I did that I would have to apply for a
new hull ID. Can anyone tell me anything about that, and why even
though it's the same hull with the same ID stamped on it I would
have to apply for a new one?
Tosk
says...
Well, I am not from there, but I would imagine you would have to get it
inspected again. When they "inspect" up here, it's mostly to see if the
paperwork is in order, most of the "inspectors" don't really know much
about hull design or manufacture. In fact up here, it's usually the
local game warden who comes out and puts a new number on the vessel.
Wayne.B
>Thanks to all of you for your help on this! I called the GA DNR
>and told them I have a notorised BOS, so the girl on the phone
>began helping me continue with the registration process. Then we
>got to the part where she asked me if it was an open boat, or a
>cabin, or home made, etc... I told here that I had put a roof
>over it and some windows so she put me on hold for a minute, then
>came back and said since I did that I would have to apply for a
>new hull ID. Can anyone tell me anything about that, and why even
>though it's the same hull with the same ID stamped on it I would
>have to apply for a new one?
You're giving them too much information.
Sounds like they are now going to treat it like a home made boat.
bruce@not
I have been cussing myself for that ever since I said
something.
>Sounds like they are now going to treat it like a home made boat.
Is there reason they might deny it? It's not overly
heavy...the boat rides high in the water. The max capacity is
1030 and I doubt there are over 500 pounds of material. Also I
removed a couple hundred pounds of seats, padding of various
types and old carpet, so it's in no danger of sinking due to
weight. It also doesn't feel top heavy. Will a person actually
come out to inspect it? If so, what can I do to make it go more
smoothly? What would they be opposed to? It's on a Corp of
Engineers lake, so should I make sure to have a portable toilet
on board or will they even care about any stuff like that?
bruce@not
<waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
That was all my mistake. I thought because I put the roof
over it that might make it a homemade boat, but I just got an
application she sent and it certainly doesn't apply to my roof.
On the form it says:
"built by an individual for personal use from raw materials which
does not require the assignment of a federal hull identification
number by a manufacturer pursuant to federal law."
I guess the best thing would be to call again and say I made a
mistake in thinking it is homemade, and tell them it has a hull
ID from the manufacturer in the upper right corner of the
transom, and see if we can get back to processing from there.
JT
<bruce@not.> wrote in message
news:b7i1e559fg7qujar2...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:26:56 -0400, Wayne.B
> <waynebatr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:33:23 -0400, bruce@not. wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks to all of you for your help on this! I called the GA DNR
>>>and told them I have a notorised BOS, so the girl on the phone
>>>began helping me continue with the registration process. Then we
>>>got to the part where she asked me if it was an open boat, or a
>>>cabin, or home made, etc... I told here that I had put a roof
>>>over it and some windows so she put me on hold for a minute, then
>>>came back and said since I did that I would have to apply for a
>>>new hull ID. Can anyone tell me anything about that, and why even
>>>though it's the same hull with the same ID stamped on it I would
>>>have to apply for a new one?
>>
>>You're giving them too much information.
>
> I have been cussing myself for that ever since I said
> something.
Any chance you can go into the DNR, tell them you want to register the boat
in GA., show them the paper work and move on or is the file flagged with the
notes that a top has been added?
JT
Wayne.B
>>Sounds like they are now going to treat it like a home made boat.
>
> Is there reason they might deny it? It's not overly
>heavy...the boat rides high in the water. The max capacity is
>1030 and I doubt there are over 500 pounds of material. Also I
>removed a couple hundred pounds of seats, padding of various
>types and old carpet, so it's in no danger of sinking due to
>weight. It also doesn't feel top heavy. Will a person actually
>come out to inspect it? If so, what can I do to make it go more
>smoothly? What would they be opposed to? It's on a Corp of
>Engineers lake, so should I make sure to have a portable toilet
>on board or will they even care about any stuff like that?
I've never been through that process so I don't know exactly what they
look for. Probably not much is my guess. With regard to a portable
toilet, your best bet is to have none at all.
Wayne.B
>I guess the best thing would be to call again and say I made a
>mistake in thinking it is homemade, and tell them it has a hull
>ID from the manufacturer in the upper right corner of the
>transom, and see if we can get back to processing from there.
Yes, it was a "misunderstanding". :-)
Tosk
jeff_cu...@airjunky.com says...
Really, go in and tell them you want to register a boat, if they ask
about "the other" one, tell them it was a hassle so you trashed it and
now you want to register "this" one. That is unless you already gave
them numbers off the hull or something .....
Tosk
says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
> <loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 22, 11:31ï¿œam, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
> ><justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Oct 22, 11:21ï¿œam, Loogypicker <loogypic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A 12 foot boat doesn't even get registered in CT.
>
> I'll bet his boat is on Lake Candlewood.
As usual. Salty is full of crap.. Any home made boat in CT has to run
through the DEP here in CT and must have a HIN attached to be sold or
run with a motor.. Please be aware that anything Salty says about me is
probably a lie. He has been upset with me for a while, ever since we on
another group exposed him for writing sexually suggestive posts to a
site for young boys. (alt.americanidol.boys or something like that)
Either way, I am not a sock puppet like our friend Salty, I am Scotty
from Smallboats.com, a USCG registered builder in the State of CT and
have built well over 60 boats for sale in the State of Connecticut.
Trust me, the boat had a HIN number and it was stolen in Old Lyme CT...
Someone called my attention to this post or I never would have seen it
as most of us at the other group have him filtered...
Thanks, Scotty from Smallboats.com...
Tosk
says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
> <justwaitaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 22, 11:21ï¿œam, Loogypicker <loogypic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> need to be "cleaned".
>
> Your sailboat is no doubt still in CT at somebody's lakeside cottage.
>
> There would be no reason to transport it all the way to Georgia.
Listen moron, any boat in CT that is going to be used with an engine or
motor, must have a HIN number, and a CT Registration number too... Any
homebuilt boat, built and sold in CT must have a HIN and to do that it
must be inspected by the DEP. Back then you took your boat to the DEP
office in Lyme, now the local DEP ranger comes to you. The state trooper
I spoke with told me there was a ring operating up and down rte 95
stealing boats and sending them south, go argue with the trooper. The
boat dock where this boat was stored was openly visible right from the
overpass in Old Lyme. I trust the Trooper over the Troll on this one...
Scotty, (not a sock puppet) from SmallBoats.com
sa...@dog.com
<justwaitaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <oi11e5p1pg02lkdg8...@4ax.com>, sa...@dog.com
>says...
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
>> <loogy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Oct 22, 11:31�am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
>> ><justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Oct 22, 11:21�am, Loogypicker <loogypic...@gmail.com> wrote:
I know exactly where Scotty lives. I also know a lot of other things
he would prefer were not made public. Especially the part about his
daughter. He is bad news. Very bad news.
sa...@dog.com
<justwaitaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <14v0e590jeq2sc6hf...@4ax.com>, sa...@dog.com
>says...
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
>> <justwaitaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Oct 22, 11:21�am, Loogypicker <loogypic...@gmail.com> wrote:
As I said, a 12 foot SAILBOAT does not need to be registered in
Connecticut.
You did say it was a sailiboat, shitforbrains.
How's your wife?
JustWaitAFrekinMinute!
> >In article <14v0e590jeq2sc6hfr08dmnr5ustite...@4ax.com>, sa...@dog.com
Well, as to your accusations about me and my family, we have heard it
all before from you while hiding under your desk as usual.. Either
way, go ahead, spew away with your fantasies about my children and
wife if it makes you feel better.
As to the CT rules. I clearly stated I built and sold the boat in CT,
which requires a HIN (hull id number). That is all I have to say to
you freak...
sa...@dog.com
Good for you. Now shut the fuck up.