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Laurent Hendrichs

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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Hi everybody!


I am facing a problem no one seems to have a solution for! Can you help
me???

Here is the problem :

I ran aground on rocks with a Lancer 28 (sailboat). The keel (which is
hallow) was
severely damaged. So damaged that the 2000 lbs lead ballast fell through

its bottom during the salvage. An additional whole has been punched into

the starboard side of the hull. That the cabin has been full of water
goes without saying. The boat is now on a yard in New Jersey (USA),
waiting for a solution. So far, I figured out the following solutions :

a) Repair the boat myself (total cost = $2500 + an enourmous amount of
time).
b) Have it repaired by a contractor (total cost = $4500)
c) Selling the boat as salvage (To whom? How to advertise it? How much
is a salvage boat worth?)
d) Taking all the parts off and destroy the boat (How to destroy it? How

to dispose of all the fiber glass?)


Solution a) and b) are out of the question: too time consuming for me!!!

So solution c) and d) remain. All my friends told me that boat was still

worth something? But how can I find a buyer??? Somebody who has
experience with fiberglass could easily repair that boat. Solution d) is

tempting too but how can I destroy a 28 foot fiberglass boat?

My guess is that some people on this planet have (unfortunately) been in

the same situation. How did you solve this problem???

Take care!

Laurent

JBChalais

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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Personally I think I'd opt for solution 'D'. Strip the boat of all
hardware and take a chain saw to her. I have a friend that buys older
OB run-abouts and strips them. Selling off the hardware, and rendering
the hull down into managable pieces for the local dump. He's found that
an electric powered chain saw works best. He ends up hauling them off
in the back of the pick-up truck.

Next question..... Didn't you have insurance? It's certainly cheep
enough for a boat of that value. Right now West Marine is writing
policies without the survey requirement for anything over 10 years,
which your's would fall into. Most other underwriters have this as a
requirement before issuing a policy.

Jack

Laurent Hendrichs wrote:
So far, I figured out the following solutions :
>
> a) Repair the boat myself (total cost = $2500 + an enourmous amount of
> time).
> b) Have it repaired by a contractor (total cost = $4500)
> c) Selling the boat as salvage (To whom? How to advertise it? How much
> is a salvage boat worth?)
> d) Taking all the parts off and destroy the boat (How to destroy it? How
>
> to dispose of all the fiber glass?)
>
> Solution a) and b) are out of the question: too time consuming for me!!!
>
> So solution c) and d) remain. All my friends told me that boat was still
>
> worth something? But how can I find a buyer??? Somebody who has
> experience with fiberglass could easily repair that boat. Solution d) is
>
> tempting too but how can I destroy a 28 foot fiberglass boat?
>
> My guess is that some people on this planet have (unfortunately) been in
>
> the same situation. How did you solve this problem???
>
> Take care!
>
> Laurent

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Duncan

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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If you were out here Id say Id take it off you hands.. unforetunatley you
will get more for the parts then the boat is my guess. Also geal with it
soon, as its easy to neglect unpleasent tasks, and youd hate to have 1000$
yard bill to go with your...umm..project boat.

duncan
Laurent Hendrichs wrote in message <35E6C094...@globespan.net>...

Mel Haylock

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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Laurent,
You really only have option D. There is no residual value left in the
hull itself because the damage to the hull core that you can't see is
likely to be extensive (the main reason you would not do A or B,
regardless of time/cost).
Option C means that someone else would be paying you for the
privelege of taking on options A, B or D themselves. You should ask your
friends who are telling you "the hull is woth something" if THEY would
buy it (then watch them back peddle). You can only sell it for much less
than the fittings are worth. Which is why you would do option D
yourself.

I once bought a boat with storm damage (for less than the cost of
rigging and sails). The hull was fiberglass over cold molded mahogany. I
dried out the inside and applied West epoxy, but in the end rot won.
After removing all fittings, I used an electric saw to cut the hull into
pieces I could haul off to a dump :-(

I'm sure you would like better news, but IMO this is realistic.

Mel Haylock

Laurent Hendrichs wrote:
>
>
> I ran aground on rocks with a Lancer 28 (sailboat). The keel (which is
> hallow) was
> severely damaged. So damaged that the 2000 lbs lead ballast fell through
>
> its bottom during the salvage. An additional whole has been punched into
>
> the starboard side of the hull. That the cabin has been full of water
> goes without saying. The boat is now on a yard in New Jersey (USA),

> waiting for a solution. So far, I figured out the following solutions :


>
> a) Repair the boat myself (total cost = $2500 + an enourmous amount of
> time).
> b) Have it repaired by a contractor (total cost = $4500)
> c) Selling the boat as salvage (To whom? How to advertise it? How much
> is a salvage boat worth?)
> d) Taking all the parts off and destroy the boat
>

vacuo

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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I'd suggest a gasoline chain saw. Much more excitement for such a
note-
worthy decommissioning. If you only can get an electric chainsaw, then
you could maybe hire a bagpipe band to mark the occasion. :)

I hope you were able to save the lead ballast. This will be nice for a
future
builder. I myself need a boom if you can sell it separate from your
mast.
Also sails.

Here is a use that should be considered for any glass hull- bury it in
a
yard and make a pond for wildlife to enjoy in a garden setting. It
could
be trimmed flat after planting so as to be level with the ground. Line
it
with 6mil black plastic if there are any leaks. Toss a bit of
sand/gravel
into the bilge to form a smooth bottom for the plastic liner. Or a lot
of
sand/gravel so it won't be deep enough to require a safety fence
around it.

Actually, you could chainsaw off the entire bilge or under-waterline
so it will be easier to transport and bury. You could advertise this
as a portable pond which any garden contractor could install for
the purchaser. The boat shape can easily be disguised by choice
of plantings around the hull. No home should be without one!

FWIW,
Vacuo I do need the boom & sundries for my 27' NoName.
w...@netheaven.com.pleasereply

On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:37:08, Laurent Hendrichs
<lau...@globespan.net> wrote:

> Hi everybody!
>
>
> I am facing a problem no one seems to have a solution for! Can you help
> me???
>

> Here is the problem :


>
> I ran aground on rocks with a Lancer 28 (sailboat). The keel (which is
> hallow) was
> severely damaged. So damaged that the 2000 lbs lead ballast fell through
>
> its bottom during the salvage. An additional whole has been punched into
>
> the starboard side of the hull. That the cabin has been full of water
> goes without saying. The boat is now on a yard in New Jersey (USA),
> waiting for a solution. So far, I figured out the following solutions :
>
> a) Repair the boat myself (total cost = $2500 + an enourmous amount of
> time).
> b) Have it repaired by a contractor (total cost = $4500)
> c) Selling the boat as salvage (To whom? How to advertise it? How much
> is a salvage boat worth?)

> d) Taking all the parts off and destroy the boat (How to destroy it? How
>
> to dispose of all the fiber glass?)
>
>

> Solution a) and b) are out of the question: too time consuming for me!!!
>
> So solution c) and d) remain. All my friends told me that boat was still
>

> worth something? But how can I find a buyer??? Somebody who has
> experience with fiberglass could easily repair that boat. Solution d) is
>
> tempting too but how can I destroy a 28 foot fiberglass boat?
>
> My guess is that some people on this planet have (unfortunately) been in
>
> the same situation. How did you solve this problem???
>
> Take care!
>
> Laurent
>
>
>
>

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Sam Lust

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Sep 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/1/98
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I believe the American expression for this would be either:

1) Turn it into a planter. or

2) Turn it into a lamp.


vacuo wrote in message <6sbkjs$4ds$0...@198.69.29.144>...


>I'd suggest a gasoline chain saw. Much more excitement for such a
>note-

>you could maybe hire a bagpipe band to mark the occasion. :)
>

>Here is a use that should be considered for any glass hull- bury it in

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