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Reporting: Northeast Georgia, USA, Near Athens: Dozens Of Killdeer Make My Day
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Robert Cohen
Dec 20, 2011, 1:07:54 PM12/20/11
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Not so rare here, which I am kinduv enjoying boasting/bragging
They tend to perch by dozen on neighbor's fencing about 50 feet away
from my feeders
from:
http://birding.about.com/od/birdprofiles/p/killdeer.htm
"The killdeer is not a common backyard bird but may be present in
rural areas or in yards with extensive cultivated grass or gravel
areas. To encourage killdeers to stay nearby, birders should minimize
pesticide use that will impact the birds’ insect food supplies."
Maintaining a couple of seemingly sorta 2/3rd gallon size feeders by
way of "Penkote" wild bird seed--there is still residue dust
Whomever thought I'd enjoy back yard bird feeding and watching, that
was not me
There are also often many more passing/invading/scavenging hearty
black birds, apparently grackles, which in my youth were generally
negatively called "starlings" or at least starling-like, and a couple
of bright cardinals seemingly staying here year round t
wife refuses to ex
pend time photographing this with Apple telephone, so i can't u tube
& also display here
When I try to photograph with boring Samsung droid(?) phone, the
birds reflexly-instintually fly away, though
by themselves when nesting in very close tree the killdeer can be
hitchcockian-aggressive-diving
They tend to perch by dozen on neighbor's fencing about 50 feet away
from my feeders
from:
http://birding.about.com/od/birdprofiles/p/killdeer.htm
"The killdeer is not a common backyard bird but may be present in
rural areas or in yards with extensive cultivated grass or gravel
areas. To encourage killdeers to stay nearby, birders should minimize
pesticide use that will impact the birds’ insect food supplies."
Maintaining a couple of seemingly sorta 2/3rd gallon size feeders by
way of "Penkote" wild bird seed--there is still residue dust
Whomever thought I'd enjoy back yard bird feeding and watching, that
was not me
There are also often many more passing/invading/scavenging hearty
black birds, apparently grackles, which in my youth were generally
negatively called "starlings" or at least starling-like, and a couple
of bright cardinals seemingly staying here year round t
wife refuses to ex
pend time photographing this with Apple telephone, so i can't u tube
& also display here
When I try to photograph with boring Samsung droid(?) phone, the
birds reflexly-instintually fly away, though
by themselves when nesting in very close tree the killdeer can be
hitchcockian-aggressive-diving
GV
Dec 24, 2011, 1:26:31 PM12/24/11
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"Robert Cohen" <robt...@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Not so rare here, which I am kinduv enjoying boasting/bragging
They tend to perch by dozen on neighbor's fencing about 50 feet away
from my feeders
from:
http://birding.about.com/od/birdprofiles/p/killdeer.htm
"The killdeer is not a common backyard bird but may be present in
rural areas or in yards with extensive cultivated grass or gravel
areas. To encourage killdeers to stay nearby, birders should minimize
pesticide use that will impact the birds’ insect food supplies."
Maintaining a couple of seemingly sorta 2/3rd gallon size feeders by
way of "Penkote" wild bird seed--there is still residue dust
Whomever thought I'd enjoy back yard bird feeding and watching, that
was not me
There are also often many more passing/invading/scavenging hearty
black birds, apparently grackles, which in my youth were generally
negatively called "starlings" or at least starling-like, and a couple
of bright cardinals seemingly staying here year round t"
SNIP
There are killdeer here in my area of central Illinois, USA and I see them
out by the gravel road at my house. For a couple of years we were lucky
enough to have the parent birds along with their families pecking along our
gravel driveway. (One little one was so curious it came up on the patio
slab and looked in the door.) My wife got a picture of that and if I can
find it I might use it as a puzzle some day.
Anyhow, what I was curious about is the perching. I've never seen one perch
on anything. And I've never had any show any interest in feeders. Of
course, you didn't say that they went to your feeders but I was wondering
about the perching.
Gary
Central Illinois USA
Visit our website and do the jigsaw puzzle at
www.under-1-roof.com/PuzzlePage.html
news:88e6693e-4377-4915...@g41g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
"Not so rare here, which I am kinduv enjoying boasting/bragging
They tend to perch by dozen on neighbor's fencing about 50 feet away
from my feeders
from:
http://birding.about.com/od/birdprofiles/p/killdeer.htm
"The killdeer is not a common backyard bird but may be present in
rural areas or in yards with extensive cultivated grass or gravel
areas. To encourage killdeers to stay nearby, birders should minimize
pesticide use that will impact the birds’ insect food supplies."
Maintaining a couple of seemingly sorta 2/3rd gallon size feeders by
way of "Penkote" wild bird seed--there is still residue dust
Whomever thought I'd enjoy back yard bird feeding and watching, that
was not me
There are also often many more passing/invading/scavenging hearty
black birds, apparently grackles, which in my youth were generally
negatively called "starlings" or at least starling-like, and a couple
of bright cardinals seemingly staying here year round t"
There are killdeer here in my area of central Illinois, USA and I see them
out by the gravel road at my house. For a couple of years we were lucky
enough to have the parent birds along with their families pecking along our
gravel driveway. (One little one was so curious it came up on the patio
slab and looked in the door.) My wife got a picture of that and if I can
find it I might use it as a puzzle some day.
Anyhow, what I was curious about is the perching. I've never seen one perch
on anything. And I've never had any show any interest in feeders. Of
course, you didn't say that they went to your feeders but I was wondering
about the perching.
Gary
Central Illinois USA
Visit our website and do the jigsaw puzzle at
www.under-1-roof.com/PuzzlePage.html
Robert Cohen
Dec 26, 2011, 1:11:32 AM12/26/11
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On Dec 24, 1:26 pm, "GV" <gvo...@aol.NOSPMcom> wrote:
> "Robert Cohen" <robtco...@msn.com> wrote in message
Well, here is the story, and I'm sticking to it, until I change it
I first thought they were some unusual birds, perhaps
hawks. Then I realized that their coloring is white/dark
contrasting,
sorta striped (Bill Murray movie STRIPE) when they're
closer to me and on the ground, but when they perch on wire upright
position the light brown is the seemingly
the color (to me), at least what "I am thknking I'm seeing as per Lord
Berkeley"
Because I'm no more expert about wild life than maybe an 13 year old
cub scout, I hereaby defer to
y'all in this n.g., while I am reporting truthfully but also granted
subjectively
This has been going on over the past year or so, horrible winter/
horrible summer, but there is a cattle farm with pond very nearby, so
they must be
going there when they thirst
A coupla days ago the brownish birds, half dozen or so, were perched
on the
dog cage wire (I have called it a "fence,"
but it's an actually a large EMPTY cage where the neighbor had
brutishly kept his incessantly barking dog, until we finally called
the ...dog catch...humane
shelter officer, where they of course kill 'em if not claimed/adopted,
a shameful, pragmatic reality here in the South, hopefully not quite
as bad in other parts of this large USA
THE HUMANE OFFICER DIDN'T CONFISCATE THE ANIMAL but we did make up
with the neighbor, who probably realized busy bodies
weren't acting in bad faith, right before they moved, and my wife is a
dog rescuer, and helped arrange a successful adoption for another dog
they had in their house
Sort of underneath the perched lite brownish birds were perched two
male cardinals, whom also live here year round, and you better believe
I often worry how
the birds can stand the 20, 30, 40 degrees
but they have insulating "oil" in their feathers and perhaps are cold
blooded like the
reptiles they evolved from (or vice versa)
i really enjoy these birds, and will fill the feeders if it's not too
cold and rainy tomorrow
> "Robert Cohen" <robtco...@msn.com> wrote in message
I first thought they were some unusual birds, perhaps
hawks. Then I realized that their coloring is white/dark
contrasting,
sorta striped (Bill Murray movie STRIPE) when they're
closer to me and on the ground, but when they perch on wire upright
position the light brown is the seemingly
the color (to me), at least what "I am thknking I'm seeing as per Lord
Berkeley"
Because I'm no more expert about wild life than maybe an 13 year old
cub scout, I hereaby defer to
y'all in this n.g., while I am reporting truthfully but also granted
subjectively
This has been going on over the past year or so, horrible winter/
horrible summer, but there is a cattle farm with pond very nearby, so
they must be
going there when they thirst
A coupla days ago the brownish birds, half dozen or so, were perched
on the
dog cage wire (I have called it a "fence,"
but it's an actually a large EMPTY cage where the neighbor had
brutishly kept his incessantly barking dog, until we finally called
the ...dog catch...humane
shelter officer, where they of course kill 'em if not claimed/adopted,
a shameful, pragmatic reality here in the South, hopefully not quite
as bad in other parts of this large USA
THE HUMANE OFFICER DIDN'T CONFISCATE THE ANIMAL but we did make up
with the neighbor, who probably realized busy bodies
weren't acting in bad faith, right before they moved, and my wife is a
dog rescuer, and helped arrange a successful adoption for another dog
they had in their house
Sort of underneath the perched lite brownish birds were perched two
male cardinals, whom also live here year round, and you better believe
I often worry how
the birds can stand the 20, 30, 40 degrees
but they have insulating "oil" in their feathers and perhaps are cold
blooded like the
reptiles they evolved from (or vice versa)
i really enjoy these birds, and will fill the feeders if it's not too
cold and rainy tomorrow
GV
Dec 26, 2011, 1:31:23 AM12/26/11
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SNIP
END QUOTED TEXT
I'm no expert, either, so it may very well be that killdeer do perch and
I've just never seen it. I'm trying to learn.
I have cardinals here in central Illinois all winter, too. We have temps
down to 0F degrees and even lower many years. My wife was the photographer
and she took many pictures of cardinals under the feeders in the snow and
ice.
SNIP
I'm no expert, either, so it may very well be that killdeer do perch and
I've just never seen it. I'm trying to learn.
I have cardinals here in central Illinois all winter, too. We have temps
down to 0F degrees and even lower many years. My wife was the photographer
and she took many pictures of cardinals under the feeders in the snow and
ice.
Robert Miles
Dec 27, 2011, 8:20:51 PM12/27/11
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are actually warmer than those of mammals.
Cold-blooded animals are more likely to hibernate in the winter than
to remain active.
Robert Miles
Robert Cohen
Dec 27, 2011, 10:02:36 PM12/27/11
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that dainty/soft birds actually can stay naturallly warm,
There were a couple of strange birds out there this morning munching
the pennington wild bird feed
They were not the kildeer
These were ..seemingly .goose-sized, wide wing spans, colorful, there
indeed are honking geese sometimes on the adjacent cattle farm, people
are annoyed by the honking and defecating, i like to hear them honk,
they fly in V formation over my house, many birds seem to fly in V (if
not most)
I think geese flock together, i am supposing these were not geese,
when i can describe 'em better, then maybe y'all can help
me narrow them down, sure i'd like to take digital pictures, and since
i've started fooling around a workbench with many surrounding tool
shelves in 2 car garage (screw the cars, garages are not for cars, i
betcha Hulett & Packard wouldn't have lead fuel guzzlers
interfering ), so i'll try to rig a remote camera and get close-ups
worth posting, i bet there is an internet site that tells how "easy"
it is
meanwhile, an example of keen ingenuity which oughta make POPULAR
MECHANIX ILLUSTRATED when h freezes over
take a dust pan with hole-opening in the handle, jam-in a plastic or
wooden (mop or sweeper) stick, tape with DUCK Duct tape (any color, i
use
that unique gray), and voila, be sure to bend the clumsy thing to make
it flush with the floor/ground, advantage: one needn't stoop so much
when picking up the leaves
with the dustpan and broom for outdoors, from the patio & ground-cover
juniper which are annoyiing leaf magnates in winds
WAIT: a remote security camera can be purchased cheaply at Walmart,
FRY'S etal, and i'll jam it into the dirt or bungee cord it to fence
near enough to the feeders
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC shall be ecstatic
jmcquown
Dec 28, 2011, 10:42:49 AM12/28/11
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"GV" <gvo...@aol.NOSPMcom> wrote in message
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> Anyhow, what I was curious about is the perching. I've never seen one
> perch on anything. And I've never had any show any interest in feeders.
> Of course, you didn't say that they went to your feeders but I was
> wondering about the perching.
>
>
> Gary
> Central Illinois USA
I was wondering about that myself, Gary. Killdeer are ground feeders.
They're plovers. I can't imagine them "perching" on a tree branch.
Jill
news:4ef61959$0$7239$882e...@usenet-news.net...
> "Robert Cohen" <robt...@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:88e6693e-4377-4915...@g41g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> "Not so rare here, which I am kinduv enjoying boasting/bragging
>
> They tend to perch by dozen on neighbor's fencing about 50 feet away
> from my feeders
>
> from:
>
> http://birding.about.com/od/birdprofiles/p/killdeer.htm
>
> "The killdeer is not a common backyard bird but may be present in
> rural areas or in yards with extensive cultivated grass or gravel
> areas. To encourage killdeers to stay nearby, birders should minimize
> pesticide use that will impact the birds' insect food supplies."
>
(snippage)
> news:88e6693e-4377-4915...@g41g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> "Not so rare here, which I am kinduv enjoying boasting/bragging
>
> They tend to perch by dozen on neighbor's fencing about 50 feet away
> from my feeders
>
> from:
>
> http://birding.about.com/od/birdprofiles/p/killdeer.htm
>
> "The killdeer is not a common backyard bird but may be present in
> rural areas or in yards with extensive cultivated grass or gravel
> areas. To encourage killdeers to stay nearby, birders should minimize
> pesticide use that will impact the birds' insect food supplies."
>
> Anyhow, what I was curious about is the perching. I've never seen one
> perch on anything. And I've never had any show any interest in feeders.
> Of course, you didn't say that they went to your feeders but I was
> wondering about the perching.
>
>
> Gary
> Central Illinois USA
They're plovers. I can't imagine them "perching" on a tree branch.
Jill
Robert Cohen
Dec 29, 2011, 12:59:13 PM12/29/11
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Well, I suppose when hungry, people and birds ...
I know I've seen them walking on ground hesitatingly (sometimes faking
of injury is suggested by n.g.er)
AND, that's why I am gonna do a remote camera, and maybe it'll clear
up some ambiguity and doubt of versimiltude
Conincidentally, HARBOR FREIGHT has a (not K-Mart) $25 blue light
special
for "Weatherproof Security Camera With Night Vision," regular $50,
<and if they are sold out,
there's a Walmart across the road, and there is nearby Lowes and Home
Despot, blah, Kroger, blah, and blah>
There is a new HARBOR next to a new TRADER JOE fifteen miles from
lair ground zero
We are going to suburban Athens in Oconee County soon, hopefully later
today or on the weekend
Thus all I'll have to do is the mounting, wiring, uploading and so
expect semi
incompleteness, indicipherable & incoherent within y 2012 <if there
be a 2012>
GV
Dec 29, 2011, 5:40:28 PM12/29/11
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SNIP
>Well, I suppose when hungry, people and birds ...
I know I've seen them walking on ground hesitatingly (sometimes faking
of injury is suggested by n.g.er)
AND, that's why I am gonna do a remote camera, and maybe it'll clear
up some ambiguity and doubt of versimiltude
Conincidentally, HARBOR FREIGHT has a (not K-Mart) $25 blue light
special
for "Weatherproof Security Camera With Night Vision," regular $50,
<and if they are sold out,
there's a Walmart across the road, and there is nearby Lowes and Home
Despot, blah, Kroger, blah, and blah>
There is a new HARBOR next to a new TRADER JOE fifteen miles from
lair ground zero
We are going to suburban Athens in Oconee County soon, hopefully later
today or on the weekend
Thus all I'll have to do is the mounting, wiring, uploading and so
expect semi
incompleteness, indicipherable & incoherent within y 2012 <if there
be a 2012>"
>
>
I have been trying to do an outdoor video camera for my feeders but I
haven't found anything affordable that will give a reasonable view. I'm
trying to do it for less than $400.00 but I haven't found anything yet. The
surveillance cameras are waterproof but they don't really give a good enough
view IMHO. (It's one thing to see something as big as a car or even a
picture of a human face from up close but a bird is pretty small in
comparison.)
If anybody has any recommendations I'd be happy to hear them. One other
problem is that I haven't had any luck trying to set up a camera inside the
house that can shoot through glass and screen and I'm very reluctant to take
off the screen--too many fatal bird strikes without screens.)
BTW, I have at least one bird roosting almost every night in my birdhouse
camera. You can go here to see the LBB that's in there tonight:
http://www.under-1-roof.com/birdcam2.html
SNIP
>Well, I suppose when hungry, people and birds ...
I know I've seen them walking on ground hesitatingly (sometimes faking
of injury is suggested by n.g.er)
AND, that's why I am gonna do a remote camera, and maybe it'll clear
up some ambiguity and doubt of versimiltude
Conincidentally, HARBOR FREIGHT has a (not K-Mart) $25 blue light
special
for "Weatherproof Security Camera With Night Vision," regular $50,
<and if they are sold out,
there's a Walmart across the road, and there is nearby Lowes and Home
Despot, blah, Kroger, blah, and blah>
There is a new HARBOR next to a new TRADER JOE fifteen miles from
lair ground zero
We are going to suburban Athens in Oconee County soon, hopefully later
today or on the weekend
Thus all I'll have to do is the mounting, wiring, uploading and so
expect semi
incompleteness, indicipherable & incoherent within y 2012 <if there
be a 2012>"
>
>
haven't found anything affordable that will give a reasonable view. I'm
trying to do it for less than $400.00 but I haven't found anything yet. The
surveillance cameras are waterproof but they don't really give a good enough
view IMHO. (It's one thing to see something as big as a car or even a
picture of a human face from up close but a bird is pretty small in
comparison.)
If anybody has any recommendations I'd be happy to hear them. One other
problem is that I haven't had any luck trying to set up a camera inside the
house that can shoot through glass and screen and I'm very reluctant to take
off the screen--too many fatal bird strikes without screens.)
BTW, I have at least one bird roosting almost every night in my birdhouse
camera. You can go here to see the LBB that's in there tonight:
http://www.under-1-roof.com/birdcam2.html
Robert Cohen
Dec 30, 2011, 12:31:38 PM12/30/11
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On Dec 29, 5:40 pm, "GV" <gvo...@aol.NOSPMcom> wrote:
> "Robert Cohen" <robtco...@msn.com> wrote in message
i can see it's not gonna be easy, but what the h
what kind of baby birds are photographed in the nest inside
your birdhouse?
i'll try to do more than one fixed camera,
i got some old puters gathering dust, so why not
one camera pointed directly at feeders
one camera pointed underneath the feeders
and one pointed near enough/at the dog cage where i saw four "lite
brownish" birds perched for
a few moments this cold morning, they were semingly watching a half
dozen ethusiastic "raiding" black
birds gorging selves at the feeders
> "Robert Cohen" <robtco...@msn.com> wrote in message
what kind of baby birds are photographed in the nest inside
your birdhouse?
i'll try to do more than one fixed camera,
i got some old puters gathering dust, so why not
one camera pointed directly at feeders
one camera pointed underneath the feeders
and one pointed near enough/at the dog cage where i saw four "lite
brownish" birds perched for
a few moments this cold morning, they were semingly watching a half
dozen ethusiastic "raiding" black
birds gorging selves at the feeders
GV
Dec 30, 2011, 5:21:46 PM12/30/11
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news:a0671061-926c-4d43...@u32g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>
SNIP
> http://www.under-1-roof.com/birdcam2.html
>
> Gary
> Central Illinois USA
> Visit our website and do the jigsaw puzzle
> atwww.under-1-roof.com/PuzzlePage.html
>i can see it's not gonna be easy, but what the h
>
what kind of baby birds are photographed in the nest inside
your birdhouse?
i'll try to do more than one fixed camera,
i got some old puters gathering dust, so why not
one camera pointed directly at feeders
one camera pointed underneath the feeders
and one pointed near enough/at the dog cage where i saw four "lite
brownish" birds perched for
a few moments this cold morning, they were semingly watching a half
>dozen ethusiastic "raiding" black
>birds gorging selves at the feeders
I hope that it works out for you. Since we started this thread I've been
giving some more thought to using the outdoor surveillance cameras I
already have four of them along with a dvr. I have one pointed out a window
and one mounted under the eaves pointing at a feeder. Neither is close
enough to show the birds in any detail. Maybe I'll have to rethink the idea
of burying some wire to go from the house out to a feeder pole.
To be honest, I don't know enough about the little birds to say for sure
what kind have used the nest box with the camera. I believe that they were
some kind of finch but I'm not sure. (I'm just guessing based on the type
of nest they built.)
The past few years I'd have to guess that some sort of sparrow has been
using the house. (Again, I'm guessing based on the shape of the nest--the
nest is mostly covered over with an entrance hole on the side.) All I know
for sure is that the nesting materials pretty much have blocked the camera
so I don't have any recent pictures posted. Come this spring I think that
I'm going to change the entrance hole on the box to a smaller size so maybe
one of the many wrens that I have around here will use the house. (I have
at least three other wren-boxes filled every summer but I don't have cameras
in any of them.)
Anyhow, I hope that you have success with your camera project.
>
SNIP
> http://www.under-1-roof.com/birdcam2.html
>
> Gary
> Central Illinois USA
> Visit our website and do the jigsaw puzzle
> atwww.under-1-roof.com/PuzzlePage.html
>i can see it's not gonna be easy, but what the h
>
what kind of baby birds are photographed in the nest inside
your birdhouse?
i'll try to do more than one fixed camera,
i got some old puters gathering dust, so why not
one camera pointed directly at feeders
one camera pointed underneath the feeders
and one pointed near enough/at the dog cage where i saw four "lite
brownish" birds perched for
a few moments this cold morning, they were semingly watching a half
>dozen ethusiastic "raiding" black
>birds gorging selves at the feeders
giving some more thought to using the outdoor surveillance cameras I
already have four of them along with a dvr. I have one pointed out a window
and one mounted under the eaves pointing at a feeder. Neither is close
enough to show the birds in any detail. Maybe I'll have to rethink the idea
of burying some wire to go from the house out to a feeder pole.
To be honest, I don't know enough about the little birds to say for sure
what kind have used the nest box with the camera. I believe that they were
some kind of finch but I'm not sure. (I'm just guessing based on the type
of nest they built.)
The past few years I'd have to guess that some sort of sparrow has been
using the house. (Again, I'm guessing based on the shape of the nest--the
nest is mostly covered over with an entrance hole on the side.) All I know
for sure is that the nesting materials pretty much have blocked the camera
so I don't have any recent pictures posted. Come this spring I think that
I'm going to change the entrance hole on the box to a smaller size so maybe
one of the many wrens that I have around here will use the house. (I have
at least three other wren-boxes filled every summer but I don't have cameras
in any of them.)
Anyhow, I hope that you have success with your camera project.
Robert Miles
Dec 30, 2011, 7:29:17 PM12/30/11
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On 12/30/2011 11:31 AM, Robert Cohen wrote:
> On Dec 29, 5:40 pm, "GV"<gvo...@aol.NOSPMcom> wrote:
>> "Robert Cohen"<robtco...@msn.com> wrote in message
[snip]
> On Dec 29, 5:40 pm, "GV"<gvo...@aol.NOSPMcom> wrote:
>> "Robert Cohen"<robtco...@msn.com> wrote in message
>> Central Illinois USA
>> Visit our website and do the jigsaw puzzle atwww.under-1-roof.com/PuzzlePage.html
>
> i can see it's not gonna be easy, but what the h
>
> what kind of baby birds are photographed in the nest inside
> your birdhouse?
>
> i'll try to do more than one fixed camera,
>
> i got some old puters gathering dust, so why not
>
> one camera pointed directly at feeders
>
> one camera pointed underneath the feeders
>
> and one pointed near enough/at the dog cage where i saw four "lite
> brownish" birds perched for
> a few moments this cold morning, they were semingly watching a half
> dozen ethusiastic "raiding" black
> birds gorging selves at the feeders
If you've got computers gathering dust, you might check if
>> Visit our website and do the jigsaw puzzle atwww.under-1-roof.com/PuzzlePage.html
>
> i can see it's not gonna be easy, but what the h
>
> what kind of baby birds are photographed in the nest inside
> your birdhouse?
>
> i'll try to do more than one fixed camera,
>
> i got some old puters gathering dust, so why not
>
> one camera pointed directly at feeders
>
> one camera pointed underneath the feeders
>
> and one pointed near enough/at the dog cage where i saw four "lite
> brownish" birds perched for
> a few moments this cold morning, they were semingly watching a half
> dozen ethusiastic "raiding" black
> birds gorging selves at the feeders
any of them are suitable for helping these BOINC projects:
https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/index.jsp
A good introduction to BOINC. Click on each of the small
pictures under the big picture to see their various
subprojects. All nonprofit.
http://boincsimap.org/boincsimap/
This appears to be the BOINC project most likely to help
bird research, but usually has work to do only for the
first few days of every month. Compares proteins and genes
from about all the species they can get enough information
for.
BOINC projects are designed to run in the background and
avoid interfering with other uses of your computer. I've
found that adding more memory helps them do this, though.
Robert Miles
Robert Cohen
Dec 30, 2011, 8:44:41 PM12/30/11
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Simple re-cycling is NOT being 100% taken care of in the USA
My observation, and others surely observe similar/other gaps
I realize that most/many cities, counties, towns, communities, and
States
do have various re-cycle programs, some strong & excellent, some token/
sporadic , some in-between
I tried to write Republic Services an e-mail about this, maybe
somebody here would just forward this, please,
because for whatever reason I could not send it
Republic seems to me to be sincere, as in the middle of this year
they gave out large (blue instead of gray) re-cycle carts for glass,
plastic,
paper, magazines, beer cans, soda cans, food cans, and also specified
what they don't want (zip 30680)
THIS gap is why I wrote to thank them, but my note wouldn't go
through,
so I gave up, but somebody please try
re: computer junque, some (as is) still semi functioning, including:
printers, keyboards; monitors, wires and
many other electronics and electrical appliances, large and small, are
apparently NOT collected by Republic Services,
which is amongst the largest because it's apparently now merged with
Waste Management and others, such as the smaller
company that had been serving me pretty well at least 6 years,
Robertson
well, SOME jurisdictions and areas DO have mandatory (or coercive) or
voluntary electronics re-cycling, and that is for the good, but not
all, because I've
accumulated quite a bit of the terrific stuff, and do just want
Republic to collect that too with their convenient blue carts or
however
Goodwill and Salvation Army don't want electric junk either, and so,
what am I to do-- landfill is always tempting and should be illegal/
discouraged
In direct response to your constructive suggestion:
It's hard to believe there are not yet enough volunteers for a worthy
cause
It gives me another option to consider & perhaps to try to get into
eventually.
Robert Miles
Dec 31, 2011, 12:32:14 PM12/31/11
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On 12/30/2011 7:44 PM, Robert Cohen wrote:
> On Dec 30, 7:29 pm, Robert Miles<mile...@Usenet-News.net> wrote:
>> On 12/30/2011 11:31 AM, Robert Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 29, 5:40 pm, "GV"<gvo...@aol.NOSPMcom> wrote:
>>>> "Robert Cohen"<robtco...@msn.com> wrote in message
>> [snip]
> On Dec 30, 7:29 pm, Robert Miles<mile...@Usenet-News.net> wrote:
>> On 12/30/2011 11:31 AM, Robert Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 29, 5:40 pm, "GV"<gvo...@aol.NOSPMcom> wrote:
>>>> "Robert Cohen"<robtco...@msn.com> wrote in message
>> [snip]
>> http://boincsimap.org/boincsimap/
>> This appears to be the BOINC project most likely to help
>> bird research, but usually has work to do only for the
>> first few days of every month. Compares proteins and genes
>> from about all the species they can get enough information
>> for.
>>
>> Robert Miles
>> This appears to be the BOINC project most likely to help
>> bird research, but usually has work to do only for the
>> first few days of every month. Compares proteins and genes
>> from about all the species they can get enough information
>> for.
>>
[snip
> In direct response to your constructive suggestion:
>
> It's hard to believe there are not yet enough volunteers for a worthy
> cause
>
> It gives me another option to consider& perhaps to try to get into
>
> It's hard to believe there are not yet enough volunteers for a worthy
> cause
>
> eventually.
These are projects that need extreme total amounts of computing,
so they're still trying to make their programs run faster and
attract more volunteers.
I'm currently trying to learn a few more computer languages
so that I can help similar projects not yet as far along
produce better results faster - and I'm also watching for
such a project more related to birds.
Robert Miles
Robert Cohen
Jan 13, 2012, 3:25:09 PM1/13/12
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On Dec 30 2011, 5:21 pm, "GV" <gvo...@aol.NOSPMcom> wrote:
> "Robert Cohen" <robtco...@msn.com> wrote in message
There is currently a bird (what kind?) that is sorta plump in
comparison
say with a robin or average "blackbird"
perching on fence 5--10 yards from full feeders,
got a special or closeout at walmart instead of
name brand pennington
i'm looking thru kmart field glasses/dollar store field glasses
well, the sun is shining on a kinduv cold day, chilly day
is that BLUE "neck" thing an optical delusion aka allusion ?
do any birds that are lite colored have "blue" around neck
i'm not making this up either, dave berry fans
i assume the sun is deliberately tricking me,
and am anxious to file a grievance with
whomever is manipulating my lunacy/sunacy
> "Robert Cohen" <robtco...@msn.com> wrote in message
comparison
say with a robin or average "blackbird"
perching on fence 5--10 yards from full feeders,
got a special or closeout at walmart instead of
name brand pennington
i'm looking thru kmart field glasses/dollar store field glasses
well, the sun is shining on a kinduv cold day, chilly day
is that BLUE "neck" thing an optical delusion aka allusion ?
do any birds that are lite colored have "blue" around neck
i'm not making this up either, dave berry fans
i assume the sun is deliberately tricking me,
and am anxious to file a grievance with
whomever is manipulating my lunacy/sunacy
Robert Cohen
Jan 13, 2012, 4:39:40 PM1/13/12
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On Dec 31 2011, 12:32 pm, Robert Miles <mile...@Usenet-News.net>
I am dumber than ...i would luv to be
When COBAL or whatever y'all call started in the early
60s, i stayed in algebra, where i made d's if
not f's,
and a very good teacher asked me in geometry
which at that time was 11th grade, 'what the
h are ya doing in here?'
In other words, i apparently barely survived the math requirements
for an h.s. duh-gree
as the French early 20th century innovator/inventor of the theory of
childhood "readiness," and possibly too of " i.q.," the esteemed
jerkoff dr pooja, peujat, peugot, carman-ghia, whatever, doesn't
exactly candidly reveal to educatonal psychology:
'programmers & mechanical minds are made, but they gotta be born
with enough concentrate-able logic,' mon-sewers
so count me out, and be blessed by the deities that determine skill if
not art, probably not a birth defect combo of both
When COBAL or whatever y'all call started in the early
60s, i stayed in algebra, where i made d's if
not f's,
and a very good teacher asked me in geometry
which at that time was 11th grade, 'what the
h are ya doing in here?'
In other words, i apparently barely survived the math requirements
for an h.s. duh-gree
as the French early 20th century innovator/inventor of the theory of
childhood "readiness," and possibly too of " i.q.," the esteemed
jerkoff dr pooja, peujat, peugot, carman-ghia, whatever, doesn't
exactly candidly reveal to educatonal psychology:
'programmers & mechanical minds are made, but they gotta be born
with enough concentrate-able logic,' mon-sewers
so count me out, and be blessed by the deities that determine skill if
not art, probably not a birth defect combo of both
Robert Cohen
Jan 15, 2012, 10:21:27 AM1/15/12
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'They have orange beaks and light orangey feathers, they're seemingly
hawks,'
so sayeth close-kin avid dog-rescuer with better sight, whom saw 'em
for first time this Sunday morning through cheapo field glasses
hopefully, I've got "red hawks," and apparently they're not aggressive
enough to scare non-predatory birds away,
these supposed slightly reddish hawks seem to enjoy watching other
birds dining on Walmart generic brand feed
if I Phone would zoom-in a little, i'll post a probably too blurry of
a picture to this thread anyhow
btw, wife dutifully transported a puppy (mostly) coon dog to Anderson,
South Carolina, and i'm still trying to get the cutesy mutt's
undigested breakfast removed from next to front seat, console crevice
a person in new york state is said to be the adopter
"kill shelter" is apparently the normative in peach state
p.s. setting-up a permanent camera in the cold is gonna be work
in the generally cold
especially in the cold, tho i have a cracker barrel bird house
Robert Cohen
Jan 17, 2012, 5:44:08 PM1/17/12
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feeders
on a warmish, wettish, overcast pre tornado day they're vigorously
chowing down
my impression is orangey beaks and their feathers are seemingly multi
colored, not just "lite"
brown/pale brown, so i'll be looking at more pictures of "birds in
georgia" and of birds wherever
these not small birds probably hang out
out at the beautiful cattle farm 25--35 yards away,
geese are often honking there
now i wanna say small "turkeys' or duck-size "ducks"
other birds do not seem scared, yesterday blackbirds and a couple
of cardinals were eating from the same ground place, and
there was one "turkey-duck" eatiing there with them
so, i'm confused as ever, but i really
like watching for a few minutes at a time during the day,
because it's very relaxing for the price of
keeping the feeders filled and thus the ground feeding
because smaller birds perch 'n peck at the feeders
Glen Labah
Jan 19, 2012, 11:32:37 PM1/19/12
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In article
<a79404c2-088c-4496...@k8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Notice that this hawk
http://cache.virtualtourist.com/6/6060128.jpg
has a hook at the end of the beak, which is what hawks use for tearing
into the meat of what they have caught.
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Robert Cohen <robt...@msn.com> wrote:
> 'They have orange beaks and light orangey feathers, they're seemingly
> hawks,'
Do they have hooked beaks?
> 'They have orange beaks and light orangey feathers, they're seemingly
> hawks,'
Notice that this hawk
http://cache.virtualtourist.com/6/6060128.jpg
has a hook at the end of the beak, which is what hawks use for tearing
into the meat of what they have caught.
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Robert Cohen
Jan 21, 2012, 10:32:27 AM1/21/12
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On Jan 19, 11:32 pm, Glen Labah <gl4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article
> <a79404c2-088c-4496-a840-f01763556...@k8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Approx 12 "hawks" are perched and a cardinal was perched with them
YES, wife says the bird has a hook thing on its beak
I said, please hurry & take picture with your I phone, she says no can
do,
need a zoom lens
The then flew away when they saw me in window, except one
stayed there perching on neighbor's fence
Originally I thought "hawks," but they're not eatiing that cardinal,
so it's still confusing me as to what i've seen
meanwhile: Sad/scary article about bats dying from (they think) white
fungus I see is on internet
They're working on antidote asap
As article reminds me: BATS EAT THEIR WEIGHT IN INSECTS DAILY
"White fungus" is I suppose that's what (George C Scott's name in the
DR STRANGELOVE movie) bat-guano sorta looks like, nest-pas
OBVIOUS Guess: frightening bat disease epidemic/pandemic has something
to do with ... g-u-a-n-o
Ya think bed bugs are wreaking havoc, well, when the bats are so
diminished, .....
facetiousness, please: Damn that Obama
> In article
> <a79404c2-088c-4496-a840-f01763556...@k8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > 'They have orange beaks and light orangey feathers, they're seemingly
> > hawks,'
>
> Do they have hooked beaks?
>
> Notice that this hawkhttp://cache.virtualtourist.com/6/6060128.jpg
>
> > 'They have orange beaks and light orangey feathers, they're seemingly
> > hawks,'
>
> Do they have hooked beaks?
>
> has a hook at the end of the beak, which is what hawks use for tearing
> into the meat of what they have caught.
>
> --
> Please note this e-mail address is a pit of spam due to e-mail address
> harvesters on Usenet. Response time to e-mail sent here is slow.
This is a very thundery rainy Saturday
> into the meat of what they have caught.
>
> --
> Please note this e-mail address is a pit of spam due to e-mail address
> harvesters on Usenet. Response time to e-mail sent here is slow.
Approx 12 "hawks" are perched and a cardinal was perched with them
YES, wife says the bird has a hook thing on its beak
I said, please hurry & take picture with your I phone, she says no can
do,
need a zoom lens
The then flew away when they saw me in window, except one
stayed there perching on neighbor's fence
Originally I thought "hawks," but they're not eatiing that cardinal,
so it's still confusing me as to what i've seen
meanwhile: Sad/scary article about bats dying from (they think) white
fungus I see is on internet
They're working on antidote asap
As article reminds me: BATS EAT THEIR WEIGHT IN INSECTS DAILY
"White fungus" is I suppose that's what (George C Scott's name in the
DR STRANGELOVE movie) bat-guano sorta looks like, nest-pas
OBVIOUS Guess: frightening bat disease epidemic/pandemic has something
to do with ... g-u-a-n-o
Ya think bed bugs are wreaking havoc, well, when the bats are so
diminished, .....
facetiousness, please: Damn that Obama
Robert Cohen
Jan 22, 2012, 6:13:20 PM1/22/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Batman: here we go again, shut down the chicken houses
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.f4b3121d53c9061ef3bd59387255abe5.111&show_article=1
Robt: speak fer yerself, Adam W: running joke on FAMILY GUY, I recall
Batman serials at ratty movie theatre in 1950s, though who played the
role
I dunno, and it's irrelevant to "bird flu,"
because a bat has a frightening mousey look, and btw what other
mammals are endowed with wings, plus whatever the "white fungus" may
be, it's probably not ... catching, though isn't that what they said
about "bird flu" before it was, and didn't some people in USA get sick/
die reportedly killed by (avian?) flu including in Georgia,
though I may well have flu mixed up with a so-called "Spanish Flu,"
which MAY have killed my mom's sister circa 1917, meanwhile I'll
remember at least to wash hands after filling up the feeders, and if
there is a virologist in this n.g. community,
I should not make lite of what I dumbly or semi know, but that's what
one tends to do in order to continue in a potential virus that
allegedly killed millions circa 1917 (?)
P.S. I am aware that are varying "strains," and besides I got a flu
shot
at Walmart last autumn so no prob & they've gone up some in their
own label "Bird Feed"--wasn't it $5+ for 20 pounds and now $7+, damn
Dimocrats
Robert Cohen
Jan 23, 2012, 10:55:17 AM1/23/12
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>
> Robt: speak fer yerself, Adam W: running joke on FAMILY GUY, I recall
> Batman serials at ratty movie theatre in 1950s, though who played the
> role
> I dunno, and it's irrelevant to "bird flu,"
>
> because a bat has a frightening mousey look, and btw what other
> mammals are endowed with wings, plus whatever the "white fungus" may
> be, it's probably not ... catching, though isn't that what they said
> about "bird flu" before it was, and didn't some people in USA get sick/
> die reportedly killed by (avian?) flu including in Georgia,
>
> though I may well have flu mixed up with a so-called "Spanish Flu,"
> which MAY have killed my mom's sister circa 1917, meanwhile I'll
> remember at least to wash hands after filling up the feeders, and if
> there is a virologist in this n.g. community,
>
> I should not make lite of what I dumbly or semi know, but that's what
> one tends to do in order to continue in a potential virus that
> allegedly killed millions circa 1917 (?)
>
> P.S. I am aware that are varying "strains," and besides I got a flu
> shot
> at Walmart last autumn so no prob & they've gone up some in their
> own label "Bird Feed"--wasn't it $5+ for 20 pounds and now $7+, damn
> Dimocrats- Hide quoted text -
> Robt: speak fer yerself, Adam W: running joke on FAMILY GUY, I recall
> Batman serials at ratty movie theatre in 1950s, though who played the
> role
> I dunno, and it's irrelevant to "bird flu,"
>
> because a bat has a frightening mousey look, and btw what other
> mammals are endowed with wings, plus whatever the "white fungus" may
> be, it's probably not ... catching, though isn't that what they said
> about "bird flu" before it was, and didn't some people in USA get sick/
> die reportedly killed by (avian?) flu including in Georgia,
>
> though I may well have flu mixed up with a so-called "Spanish Flu,"
> which MAY have killed my mom's sister circa 1917, meanwhile I'll
> remember at least to wash hands after filling up the feeders, and if
> there is a virologist in this n.g. community,
>
> I should not make lite of what I dumbly or semi know, but that's what
> one tends to do in order to continue in a potential virus that
> allegedly killed millions circa 1917 (?)
>
> P.S. I am aware that are varying "strains," and besides I got a flu
> shot
> at Walmart last autumn so no prob & they've gone up some in their
> own label "Bird Feed"--wasn't it $5+ for 20 pounds and now $7+, damn
>
> - Show quoted text -
subj: "hawks" eating from feeders
> - Show quoted text -
unless some are "omnivores," they ain't hawks
they're beautiful and not smallish whatever they are
it's been unusually wet for days, and these "hawks" seem to me to
be fine especially when the weather is so
vat happens to 'em in an horrendous windstorm/tornado in
winter
i don't wanna findout
meanwhile, 'global warming aka climate change is bad science'
hey, tell the Greenlanders (Danes?) it's liberal white bird stuff
btw: those whom temporarily stay if not reside in Greenland commute in
ice-cycles while snacking on dream, fudge and pop-cy ...
Glen Labah
Jan 23, 2012, 11:22:41 PM1/23/12
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In article
<8ea94787-7578-4928...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Twice the size? About the same size?
<8ea94787-7578-4928...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Robert Cohen <robt...@msn.com> wrote:
> This is a very thundery rainy Saturday
>
> Approx 12 "hawks" are perched and a cardinal was perched with them
>
> YES, wife says the bird has a hook thing on its beak
Compared to the cardinal, how big is it?
> This is a very thundery rainy Saturday
>
> Approx 12 "hawks" are perched and a cardinal was perched with them
>
> YES, wife says the bird has a hook thing on its beak
Twice the size? About the same size?
Robert Cohen
Jan 24, 2012, 10:01:01 PM1/24/12
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> <8ea94787-7578-4928-ad3a-a3c27a177...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
i regret not posting pictures to clear up this confusion
> Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > This is a very thundery rainy Saturday
>
> > Approx 12 "hawks" are perched and a cardinal was perched with them
>
> > YES, wife says the bird has a hook thing on its beak
>
> Compared to the cardinal, how big is it?
>
> Twice the size? About the same size?
>
> --
> Please note this e-mail address is a pit of spam due to e-mail address
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twice or more
>
> > This is a very thundery rainy Saturday
>
> > Approx 12 "hawks" are perched and a cardinal was perched with them
>
> > YES, wife says the bird has a hook thing on its beak
>
> Compared to the cardinal, how big is it?
>
> Twice the size? About the same size?
>
> --
> Please note this e-mail address is a pit of spam due to e-mail address
> harvesters on Usenet. Response time to e-mail sent here is slow.
i regret not posting pictures to clear up this confusion
Robert Cohen
Jan 26, 2012, 11:53:40 AM1/26/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/long-lost-starlings-are-flying-back-to-israel-1.409059
> - Show quoted text -
I'd never post irrelevant personal stuff nor about my unfavorite black
birds aka starlings,
c'est la realite, like or dislike
6 "hawks" were fence-perched this wettish/overcast day, seemingly 3
times the size of that anomalous(?) perching between 'em smallish
cardinal seen recently
The lite brownish birds are birds I'd never seen in cities & suburbs,
so I now am thinking they're ... "grouse," much like the grouse on the
top, right of page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruffed_Grouse
Robert Cohen
Jan 26, 2012, 3:55:16 PM1/26/12
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On Jan 26, 11:53 am, Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 10:01 pm, Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 23, 11:22 pm, Glen Labah <gl4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <8ea94787-7578-4928-ad3a-a3c27a177...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > > > This is a very thundery rainy Saturday
>
> > > > Approx 12 "hawks" are perched and a cardinal was perched with them
>
> > > > YES, wife says the bird has a hook thing on its beak
>
> > > Compared to the cardinal, how big is it?
>
> > > Twice the size? About the same size?
>
> > > --
> > > Please note this e-mail address is a pit of spam due to e-mail address
> > > harvesters on Usenet. Response time to e-mail sent here is slow.
>
> > twice or more
>
> > i regret not posting pictures to clear up this confusion- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/long-lost-starlings-are-fly...
> On Jan 24, 10:01 pm, Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 23, 11:22 pm, Glen Labah <gl4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <8ea94787-7578-4928-ad3a-a3c27a177...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > > > This is a very thundery rainy Saturday
>
> > > > Approx 12 "hawks" are perched and a cardinal was perched with them
>
> > > > YES, wife says the bird has a hook thing on its beak
>
> > > Compared to the cardinal, how big is it?
>
> > > Twice the size? About the same size?
>
> > > --
> > > Please note this e-mail address is a pit of spam due to e-mail address
> > > harvesters on Usenet. Response time to e-mail sent here is slow.
>
> > twice or more
>
> > i regret not posting pictures to clear up this confusion- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>
> I'd never post irrelevant personal stuff nor about my unfavorite black
> birds aka starlings,
>
> c'est la realite, like or dislike
>
> 6 "hawks" were fence-perched this wettish/overcast day, seemingly 3
> times the size of that anomalous(?) perching between 'em smallish
> cardinal seen recently
>
> The lite brownish birds are birds I'd never seen in cities & suburbs,
> so I now am thinking they're ... "grouse," much like the grouse on the
> top, right of page
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruffed_Grouse- Hide quoted text -
> I'd never post irrelevant personal stuff nor about my unfavorite black
> birds aka starlings,
>
> c'est la realite, like or dislike
>
> 6 "hawks" were fence-perched this wettish/overcast day, seemingly 3
> times the size of that anomalous(?) perching between 'em smallish
> cardinal seen recently
>
> The lite brownish birds are birds I'd never seen in cities & suburbs,
> so I now am thinking they're ... "grouse," much like the grouse on the
> top, right of page
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
An hour or 3 later today
> - Show quoted text -
They're not much bigger than a FULL SIZE cardinal
because an adult cardinal is feeding and the "grouse"
or whatever they are dining simultaneously
Sveral of the "grouses" are on ground feeding
The "grouses' " feathers do not look exactly
like the birds' feathers in the WIKIPEDIA
article, the coloring is difficult for me because
it's seemingly variable/literally-changeable and that
description doesn't make perfect sense I
acknowledge amidst the confusion
hades, yes, I really dunno what these
"hawks"/"grouse" are, they're fun
for moi and that's enuff
Robert Cohen
Jan 31, 2012, 12:54:40 PM1/31/12
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re: freaky weather seemingly is behind anomaly
re: the beef farm land (partly) borders on my real estate,
some cows were eating their yesterday
this morning, first time I've observed
brief description, because it'a what I saw, and
(my philosophy 111 recall and/or "interpretation")
Subjectivism Philosopher, Lord Berkeley, 'I have
an idea in my mind'
bird is seemingly adult goose-size
very unusual to me black coloring down past "neck"
white "collar" (maybe bird's "back" too) down
then seemingly 1/3 is seemingly entirely black again
caution: the sun plays tricks, as you've noticed
caution field glasses are toy department trash bin quality
re: the beef farm land (partly) borders on my real estate,
some cows were eating their yesterday
this morning, first time I've observed
brief description, because it'a what I saw, and
(my philosophy 111 recall and/or "interpretation")
Subjectivism Philosopher, Lord Berkeley, 'I have
an idea in my mind'
bird is seemingly adult goose-size
very unusual to me black coloring down past "neck"
white "collar" (maybe bird's "back" too) down
then seemingly 1/3 is seemingly entirely black again
caution: the sun plays tricks, as you've noticed
caution field glasses are toy department trash bin quality
Glen Labah
Feb 1, 2012, 4:20:06 AM2/1/12
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example, there are several types of cross bill:
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/White-winged_Crossbill/id/ac
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Red_Crossbill/id/ac
These have a hook like structure on the end of the beak, but it is used
for ripping open pine cones. The top and bottom of the beak actually
cross over, so that when the bird bites down it actually pries the pine
cone open.
Thus, the name "cross bill".
You have to look closely at the photos to see the odd hook like
structure on the end of the beak.
As a seed eater it wouldn't be too surprising to find them at a feeder.
<29df09aa-b764-4ef0...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Robert Cohen <robt...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jan 26, 11:53 am, Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 24, 10:01 pm, Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 23, 11:22 pm, Glen Labah <gl4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > In article
> > > > <8ea94787-7578-4928-ad3a-a3c27a177...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > This is a very thundery rainy Saturday
> >
> > > > > Approx 12 "hawks" are perched and a cardinal was perched with them
> >
> > > > > YES, wife says the bird has a hook thing on its beak
> >
> > > > Compared to the cardinal, how big is it?
> >
> > > > Twice the size? About the same size?
> >
> > > twice or more
> On Jan 26, 11:53 am, Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 24, 10:01 pm, Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 23, 11:22 pm, Glen Labah <gl4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > In article
> > > > <8ea94787-7578-4928-ad3a-a3c27a177...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > Robert Cohen <robtco...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > This is a very thundery rainy Saturday
> >
> > > > > Approx 12 "hawks" are perched and a cardinal was perched with them
> >
> > > > > YES, wife says the bird has a hook thing on its beak
> >
> > > > Compared to the cardinal, how big is it?
> >
> > > > Twice the size? About the same size?
> >
> >
> > 6 "hawks" were fence-perched this wettish/overcast day, seemingly 3
> > times the size of that anomalous(?) perching between 'em smallish
> > cardinal seen recently
>
> > 6 "hawks" were fence-perched this wettish/overcast day, seemingly 3
> > times the size of that anomalous(?) perching between 'em smallish
> > cardinal seen recently
>
> An hour or 3 later today
>
> They're not much bigger than a FULL SIZE cardinal
> because an adult cardinal is feeding and the "grouse"
> or whatever they are dining simultaneously
There are some birds that have hooked beaks that are not hawks. For
>
> They're not much bigger than a FULL SIZE cardinal
> because an adult cardinal is feeding and the "grouse"
> or whatever they are dining simultaneously
example, there are several types of cross bill:
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/White-winged_Crossbill/id/ac
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Red_Crossbill/id/ac
These have a hook like structure on the end of the beak, but it is used
for ripping open pine cones. The top and bottom of the beak actually
cross over, so that when the bird bites down it actually pries the pine
cone open.
Thus, the name "cross bill".
You have to look closely at the photos to see the odd hook like
structure on the end of the beak.
As a seed eater it wouldn't be too surprising to find them at a feeder.
Robert Cohen
Feb 6, 2012, 4:21:18 PM2/6/12
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seed from ground some blackbirds pecked out of the feeders
thru subprime field glasses and no more than 40 feet away inside
house,
i couldn't say what bird i saw from a closed window
they're brownish with some white (sploshes, maybe stripes), they're
not smallish, h, they seem fat, been eating seeds or sumthin
eventually, they sensed i was watching them again/twice, and quickly
flew in away in seemingly disordered formation unlike black birds in
a V
Robert Cohen
Feb 14, 2012, 2:33:50 PM2/14/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
what i just saw:
> - Show quoted text -
the weather is overcast, the sun can't be tricking my sight
as it apparently has been doing
very beautiful creature perching atop
metallic post above feeders
orange breast, black head, purple feathers
was not a robin nor a female cardinal
regular/common size, not unusual size, the coloring i've not seen
before
Robert Cohen
Feb 14, 2012, 10:19:10 PM2/14/12
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i forgot how purple looks, hey it happens
the orange breast of the BALTIMORE ORIOLE is the color of orange i saw
a picture of an oriole's feathers do not look like the dark blue i saw
Robert Cohen
Feb 14, 2012, 10:44:28 PM2/14/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
an American Robin is probably what i saw this morning--
> - Show quoted text -
whoopee doo, they're pretty enough though not rare
http://www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_image_pages/0025-0409-1510-3751.html
Robert Cohen
Feb 18, 2012, 12:20:45 PM2/18/12
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/health/details-of-bird-flu-research-will-be-released.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
This article is of absolutely of no relevance to my backyard birds,
whom wouldn't
mix with internationally exposed .... not
In my area there is an enormous chicken industry, and names have
plants at Gainesville,
30--40 miles away.
I hate more than ever hearing/seeing flatbed trucks carrying my live
food--c'est la morte
I know we've been through a bird flu scare a couple of years ago
I get West Nile Virus (mosquito driven?) mixed-up with such, because
do not birds supposedly carry it too,
and some (elderly?) people did get sick in Jawja, and there was one or
more deaths attributed to West Nile
And, gosh damnit, I's elderly
In the NYT article, authorities apparently worry about panic from
disclosure itself, and I'm certainly old and cynical enough to worry
about worrying
I suppose anybody who is not a bump on a log implicitly fears a not
short list of worries
This article is of absolutely of no relevance to my backyard birds,
whom wouldn't
mix with internationally exposed .... not
In my area there is an enormous chicken industry, and names have
plants at Gainesville,
30--40 miles away.
I hate more than ever hearing/seeing flatbed trucks carrying my live
food--c'est la morte
I know we've been through a bird flu scare a couple of years ago
I get West Nile Virus (mosquito driven?) mixed-up with such, because
do not birds supposedly carry it too,
and some (elderly?) people did get sick in Jawja, and there was one or
more deaths attributed to West Nile
And, gosh damnit, I's elderly
In the NYT article, authorities apparently worry about panic from
disclosure itself, and I'm certainly old and cynical enough to worry
about worrying
I suppose anybody who is not a bump on a log implicitly fears a not
short list of worries
Robert Cohen
Feb 19, 2012, 9:18:18 PM2/19/12
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update re light brown birds that i still cannot identify
satisfactorily
it's been several rainy days, not bitterly cold, but relatively warm,
though
the weather report says tres cold tonight
well, these lite brownish creatures, perch on a fence cage nearby
seemingly particularly when it's
raining/sprinkling, are there hawks or some birds that do such rather
than staying in their trees
when it's so wet
again they're sorta "off-white" (beige perhaps ?)
larger than the "average adult avian"
i'll go through some more websites, and see if i can find a match, but
may be i got sumthin rare
because of global climate chaos, while i really do not fantasize
they're stranded here from Slabobian Spit off of Curacel if not
Curacoc
if not the Falklands
meanwhile i bought a 50 pound wild bird seed, twenty singles at
Walmart,
so it probably is not really as enticing as the beautiful
illustrations on the bag of course hype
satisfactorily
it's been several rainy days, not bitterly cold, but relatively warm,
though
the weather report says tres cold tonight
well, these lite brownish creatures, perch on a fence cage nearby
seemingly particularly when it's
raining/sprinkling, are there hawks or some birds that do such rather
than staying in their trees
when it's so wet
again they're sorta "off-white" (beige perhaps ?)
larger than the "average adult avian"
i'll go through some more websites, and see if i can find a match, but
may be i got sumthin rare
because of global climate chaos, while i really do not fantasize
they're stranded here from Slabobian Spit off of Curacel if not
Curacoc
if not the Falklands
meanwhile i bought a 50 pound wild bird seed, twenty singles at
Walmart,
so it probably is not really as enticing as the beautiful
illustrations on the bag of course hype
Robert Cohen
Feb 19, 2012, 10:44:01 PM2/19/12
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wood thrush
thresher
mourning dove
but none looks exactly
Glen Labah
Feb 21, 2012, 1:36:42 AM2/21/12
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less appealing without them.
<d724d61d-a9fb-4d6f...@t5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Robert Cohen <robt...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> an American Robin is probably what i saw this morning--
> whoopee doo, they're pretty enough though not rare
Maybe, but they have a pretty song and my neighborhood would be a lot
>
> an American Robin is probably what i saw this morning--
> whoopee doo, they're pretty enough though not rare
less appealing without them.
Robert Cohen
Mar 11, 2012, 3:55:24 PM3/11/12
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I guess this is "my" bird of which there are here 6--12, though they generally
seem to eat off the ground and MAY have orange beak (according to wife, but I
can't see "orange" beak)
As far as a "foot" long: yeah, I'd have to affirm mine are relatively large, and since it's the State's official bird and our former NHL hockey team name, I may have something of semi significance, and spring in winter hinting hitchcockingly
of summer INSECTS, whoopee, if we don't get some ice, which becomes more ominous everyday.
Plus, I was watching a foreign football riot, and a soccer game
broke out
Plus, I was watching a debate and the audience booed evolution, contraception & climate change theory not more than three times
Robert Cohen
Mar 14, 2012, 11:20:16 AM3/14/12
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Robert Cohen
Mar 15, 2012, 5:50:36 PM3/15/12
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It doesn't SEEM there will be enough cold from here on out to control
some of the predictable annoying bugs and spiders
I just sprayed my garage and some of the house's exterior showing concrete slab with some genuine lethal flying insect spray and some rumored as sorta lethal to some insects pine sol/oil, hot water with citrus peel boiled MAY pee off your
mounds of fire ants which btw you shouldn't walk on without shoes and socks
a now blooming pear(?) tree next to my back porch has its usual bees (or wasps?) already doing their fertilizing or whatever they do to the blossoms
there is no shortage of rain, and of course winds for this "indian spring" (well,
whatever, this pre-mature spring of late feb and early march is called, if not the last season of species of certain flora and fauna life
because there is no such thing as climate change, and anybody that suspects
such to be, be careful of who is monitoring your heresy in case the radical
GOP reigns a la their Nov, 2008 political shock and their know-nuthingism
those guys with phds whom do say "climate change" will be joining you in the
work & re-conditioning camps, because learning to repeat normative bull manure makes ya free
birds are crowding my feeders, as i am keeping em full more than usual,
does a bird over-eat, because that's another d way to spoil nature, plus throwing pigeons stale, over-salted popcorn and waddling outside of the their pond ducks the usual enriched white stuff whether doughy balls or
straight from the loaf flat
Robert Cohen
Mar 28, 2012, 10:46:10 AM3/28/12
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I've gotta Kindle, and it's not my forte, which is certainly being a genuine inchoate n.g. annoyance if not utter schnook/fool
I tinkered with kindle this morning and got nowhere, pencil eraser is
serving as the "stylus," which is ironic if one is in to water that tastes
mineraly/rusty, because it's a primitive writing instrument ipso facto
That darn bird, which I still have not solidly identified, does have an ORANGE BEAK, which has got to be a large clue
and BROWN FEATHERS with plenty of WHITE underneath the feathers
They're seemingly almost as fat & maybe slightly "longer" as the ravenous "crow," it was a large blackbird, that I saw dining there yesterday
What the h is it?
I dunno if it's a sparrow, the State Bird thrush, whatever
What domestic birds fit my terrific description?
my unidentified bird built a nest and had babies last spring-summer, and
it or another seems to be using that same nest now, sometimes whistling-whistling, though it hasn't dive-bombed me as it did last spring-summer
Robert Cohen
Mar 28, 2012, 5:30:35 PM3/28/12
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Robert Cohen
Mar 30, 2012, 3:54:47 PM3/30/12
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of the ambiguity of my contradictory description(s)
one feather color is grayish
the other feather color is brownish
i had been blaming the sunlight, plus my weak eyes & cracker jack box binoculars, and what not
orange beak, i'm almost certain
very white under their feathers, no question
i'm seeing an adult pigeon-size adult bird, not smallish
i apparently have been feeding a group of 5--11 of 'em, calling them hawk,
game bird, thrush, killdeer, and the wonderful Cornell & WIKI sites etal have not totally helped
i actually had a rough C if not damn D time in freshman geology, and today often can't recall a metamorphic from an igneous from a sedimentary rock
that doesn't mean i dislike geology, i think of it as important & a fascinating
physical science, corals are/were "organic" so never mind
but which bird have i got here?
they are not all that that "pretty" while they have been intriguing & beautiful to moi
hope it's an unusual bird to watch
Glen Labah
Apr 2, 2012, 11:53:02 PM4/2/12
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grayish or brownish coloring overall
yellow or orange bill
very white under feathers
approximately pigeon sized
By very white under feathers do you mean under their wings?
It apparently likes to be in groups, and perches on fences.
What about something along the lines of a veery? Part of its bill is
black, but part of it is yellow or orange. They pass through your area
on their way to and from South America.
<30177233.492.1333137287214.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncc41>,
Robert Cohen <robt...@msn.com> wrote:
> Ahhhh ... the male and female colors differ, and that accounts for some/much
> of the ambiguity of my contradictory description(s)
>
> one feather color is grayish
>
> the other feather color is brownish
>
> i had been blaming the sunlight, plus my weak eyes & cracker jack box
> binoculars, and what not
>
> orange beak, i'm almost certain
>
> very white under their feathers, no question
>
> i'm seeing an adult pigeon-size adult bird, not smallish
>
> i apparently have been feeding a group of 5--11 of 'em, calling them hawk,
> game bird, thrush, killdeer, and the wonderful Cornell & WIKI sites etal have
> not totally helped
OK, so we have:
> Ahhhh ... the male and female colors differ, and that accounts for some/much
> of the ambiguity of my contradictory description(s)
>
> one feather color is grayish
>
> the other feather color is brownish
>
> i had been blaming the sunlight, plus my weak eyes & cracker jack box
> binoculars, and what not
>
> orange beak, i'm almost certain
>
> very white under their feathers, no question
>
> i'm seeing an adult pigeon-size adult bird, not smallish
>
> i apparently have been feeding a group of 5--11 of 'em, calling them hawk,
> game bird, thrush, killdeer, and the wonderful Cornell & WIKI sites etal have
> not totally helped
grayish or brownish coloring overall
yellow or orange bill
very white under feathers
approximately pigeon sized
By very white under feathers do you mean under their wings?
It apparently likes to be in groups, and perches on fences.
What about something along the lines of a veery? Part of its bill is
black, but part of it is yellow or orange. They pass through your area
on their way to and from South America.
Robert Cohen
Apr 5, 2012, 2:44:45 PM4/5/12
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but pictures show a little "blue" and i've seen blue, then thinking optical illusion or sunlight trick or forgotten head injury from school yard fight
and mine are probably not the alleged lookalikes/cousins, Passenger Pigeons, fame is so fleeting, because for a moment i was famous ornithologist wannabe whom hit jackpot and was invited to lecture at y'alls convention in Dubuque on maybe a riverboat gambling ship
if i had to bet today, my bet is MOURNING DOVE, tomorrow, whatever,
Glen Labah
Apr 6, 2012, 1:37:49 AM4/6/12
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parts of Texas there are band tailed pigeons, which do have an orange
beak with a black tip. They also seem to be a little more darker gray /
bluish in color.
If that is it then that would be very odd for them to be in Georgia, but
around here (Oregon) they do prefer areas with pine or fir trees, and I
know Georgia has some areas with those types of forests.
The band tailed pigeon range actually goes further east than Texas, but
only in the very southern area of Mexico.
See if you can see a white ring at the neck of any of them. Sometimes
this goes around the entire neck just below the head, but almost always
it is only in the back of the neck.
If they have that white stripe or band on the neck just below the head,
then as unlikely as it may be you are probably looking at band tailed
pigeons. These are declining in much of their range in the west, so if
that is what you have then it is a very interesting sighting indeed.
<3739887.1983.1333651485652.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynnk21>,
Robert Cohen <robt...@msn.com> wrote:
> MOURNING DOVE, though so far various pictures showing no orange beak, darnit
> to h
>
> but pictures show a little "blue" and i've seen blue, then thinking optical
> illusion or sunlight trick or forgotten head injury from school yard fight
They aren't supposed to be in your area (Georgia?) but as far east as
> MOURNING DOVE, though so far various pictures showing no orange beak, darnit
> to h
>
> but pictures show a little "blue" and i've seen blue, then thinking optical
> illusion or sunlight trick or forgotten head injury from school yard fight
parts of Texas there are band tailed pigeons, which do have an orange
beak with a black tip. They also seem to be a little more darker gray /
bluish in color.
If that is it then that would be very odd for them to be in Georgia, but
around here (Oregon) they do prefer areas with pine or fir trees, and I
know Georgia has some areas with those types of forests.
The band tailed pigeon range actually goes further east than Texas, but
only in the very southern area of Mexico.
See if you can see a white ring at the neck of any of them. Sometimes
this goes around the entire neck just below the head, but almost always
it is only in the back of the neck.
If they have that white stripe or band on the neck just below the head,
then as unlikely as it may be you are probably looking at band tailed
pigeons. These are declining in much of their range in the west, so if
that is what you have then it is a very interesting sighting indeed.
Robert Cohen
Apr 13, 2012, 8:55:45 PM4/13/12
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related to the very unusual weather, damn extremist fools can't acknowledge an obvious
I saw the white band on the brown feathers today, not on his neck, but farther back
I played their sound recorded on the internet, and I swear it is the
sound I hear or is very similar, because I can't distinguish the difference
Perhaps "mourning doves" do similar sound, and they're what i got, which is common in southeast
It is eerie stuff but I've heard it before here in my southeast U.S. quite a bit
From the pictures in WIKIPEDIA and elsewhere on the internet, I perceive
I've an hopefully "rare location" pigeon, and they seemingly aren't aggressive and non-shy as the nuisance pigeon so annoying & mooching popcorn in some parks and some walking areas
My parents went to alleged squab (if not squibb) specialty restaurant many years ago, I am still grossed-out, and still joking about eating 'em, yuk
Now recalling Rich's/Macy's constantly playing a seemingly predator sound to keep starlings and/or pigeons away from behind new tall retail mall building, because those weren't constant live squawks, were they?
I shall continue watching, and thinking we narrowed it, until my euphoria
is breached by reality, which is what the fun/joy feels much about
and, of course, that disgusting semi-terrific cliche, I betcha they "taste like chicken," but riper
Robert Cohen
Apr 19, 2012, 10:41:10 PM4/19/12
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"band pigeon," with other pigeons on the ground below feeders. Later there were much smaller black birds on the ground, after I mowed. It had been damp here, which is a relief from a mini drought.
I dunno what kind of large black bird, I have never
seen such, approx one and a half, perhaps two times the size of the not
small pigeon.
Edgar Allen Poe's raven/crow comes to mind, though this bird is seemingly so socialable, my wife at first had thought it to be a vulture or buzzard
Will be looking at pictures of LARGE black birds
Glen Labah
Apr 20, 2012, 1:07:27 AM4/20/12
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Robert Cohen <robt...@msn.com> wrote:
> A large black bird, apparently not a "predator" was working the feeders with my
> "band pigeon," with other pigeons on the ground below feeders. Later there were much smaller black birds on the ground, after I mowed. It had been damp here, which is a relief from a mini drought.
>
> I dunno what kind of large black bird, I have never
> seen such, approx one and a half, perhaps two times the size of the not
> small pigeon.
>
> Edgar Allen Poe's raven/crow comes to mind, though this bird is seemingly so socialable, my wife at first had thought it to be a vulture or buzzard
>
> Will be looking at pictures of LARGE black birds
Ravens are much larger than crows, so that is where I would start.
> A large black bird, apparently not a "predator" was working the feeders with my
> "band pigeon," with other pigeons on the ground below feeders. Later there were much smaller black birds on the ground, after I mowed. It had been damp here, which is a relief from a mini drought.
>
> I dunno what kind of large black bird, I have never
> seen such, approx one and a half, perhaps two times the size of the not
> small pigeon.
>
> Edgar Allen Poe's raven/crow comes to mind, though this bird is seemingly so socialable, my wife at first had thought it to be a vulture or buzzard
>
> Will be looking at pictures of LARGE black birds
Robert Cohen
Apr 20, 2012, 1:14:58 PM4/20/12
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WIKIPEDIA deserves credit for the pertinent referral link
a non literary Ed Poe quouth
though a reasonable guess if not hypothesis
because last line makes me smile an aha
"... principalis Ridgway, 1887 - Alaska E across ice-free portions of Canada to coasts of Greenland, S in USA to Pacific coast of Oregon and Washington and, in E, in Appalachian Mts S to N Georgia ..."
Robert Cohen
Apr 22, 2012, 9:52:25 PM4/22/12
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Robert Cohen
Apr 30, 2012, 4:20:48 PM4/30/12
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Robert Cohen
May 2, 2012, 4:52:59 PM5/2/12
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i do like this new google posting
change, but sometimes it makes less logic/less intuition than the old one
Latest sighting at feeders
relatively large and black, much like that possible raven, but also
very pale yellow or very pale gold of the head/neck
sort of high-lite yellow/gold
some dark overall human hair has blonde hi-lights
have looked at plenty of pictures on this internet
have not been able to match/identify
this has to hopefully be a rare bird,
or perhaps merely the female (or the male)
version of a solid yellow head/neck native south-easterner
for which there are seemingly so many (if i go by pictures
on the internet of some) warblers, finches, and others with
beautiful/loud yellow necks/heads, but seemingly black everything else
Robert Cohen
May 4, 2012, 1:46:32 PM5/4/12
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I realize the guy whom has noted these terrific reports may perceive that i am actually not essentially making-up stories, as flaky as they are--FUN for me
in front yard is a lone magnolia tree, which i had transplanted from friend's mountain cabin Fanning County property approx 5 years ago
so, it's taken care of, me watering in the occasional droughts and via my wife's (apparent) Japanese beetle traps at least once nearby too
so, now our beloved tree is approx 8+ feet tall
apparently a kildeer has made its egg/baby nest in the Magnolia tree, which
has one or three beautiful white blooms this spring
when i go out there to pull weeds and so forth, the bird literally attacks me
i mean it dove 3 or 4 times just a little while ago, on this partly drizzling, overcast day
he/she touched my back, and (of course) i mock it with annoying noises back
i sorta <sorry Skinner-Pavlov> negatively semi "trained" the bird, nest pas?
if only could post a picture, somebody might believe i'm not exaggerating
* I think its a kildeer, though who knows, it's white with neat grayish feathers
and there is a seeming family or small flock of them pecking/eating my tasty W-Mart-Pennington wild seed
Why did not the bird peck me on back ?
Perhaps it did a la Director Hitchcock
Glen Labah
May 8, 2012, 3:39:46 AM5/8/12
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Robert Cohen <robt...@msn.com> wrote:
> when i go out there to pull weeds and so forth, the bird literally attacks me
>
> i mean it dove 3 or 4 times just a little while ago, on this partly drizzling, overcast day
>
> he/she touched my back, and (of course) i mock it with annoying noises back
Watch for young birds under foot and close at hand. I've only seen birds get this aggressive when there is a baby that has fallen to the ground from the nest, and is close to under foot.
> when i go out there to pull weeds and so forth, the bird literally attacks me
>
> i mean it dove 3 or 4 times just a little while ago, on this partly drizzling, overcast day
>
> he/she touched my back, and (of course) i mock it with annoying noises back
Robert Cohen
May 8, 2012, 10:46:56 AM5/8/12
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i went out there this morning to load the feeders, p/u debris, though no
signs of any birds or the usual singing/yapping
although i did see TWO red probably child males at the feeders yesterday, they really didn't look as adult cardinals, however, because cardinals are usually so easy to identify
but what else is red around here
reality is semi JUNGLE, and instinctual animals evolve to
protect young in any natural ways
meanwhile, friendly and enemy animals probably knew of the eggs/babies, but i did not know except for their alarm noise/literally attacking paranoiacs, which is interesting
i did see a small white broken egg shell in front on driveway, and thus the
un-clever deduction (induction?)--the winds
i did not pick up that egg shell yet, just left it there, too spooked to throw it away
Larry Sheldon
May 8, 2012, 3:57:51 PM5/8/12
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On 5/8/2012 9:46 AM, Robert Cohen wrote:
> i did see a small white broken egg shell in front on driveway, and thus the
> un-clever deduction (induction?)--the winds
>
> i did not pick up that egg shell yet, just left it there, too spooked to throw it away
One bit of possibly good news here.
> i did see a small white broken egg shell in front on driveway, and thus the
> un-clever deduction (induction?)--the winds
>
> i did not pick up that egg shell yet, just left it there, too spooked to throw it away
In my experience birds (all birds? dunno that) take the empty shells
some distance away from the nest for discard--apparently to help
disguise the nest;s location.
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Larry Sheldon
May 8, 2012, 4:10:21 PM5/8/12
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On 5/8/2012 2:57 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> On 5/8/2012 9:46 AM, Robert Cohen wrote:
>
>> i did see a small white broken egg shell in front on driveway, and
>> thus the
>> un-clever deduction (induction?)--the winds
>>
>> i did not pick up that egg shell yet, just left it there, too spooked
>> to throw it away
>
> One bit of possibly good news here.
>
> In my experience birds (all birds? dunno that) take the empty shells
> some distance away from the nest for discard--apparently to help
> disguise the nest;s location.
It also occurred to me that the eggs seem to cleave pretty much into
> On 5/8/2012 9:46 AM, Robert Cohen wrote:
>
>> i did see a small white broken egg shell in front on driveway, and
>> thus the
>> un-clever deduction (induction?)--the winds
>>
>> i did not pick up that egg shell yet, just left it there, too spooked
>> to throw it away
>
> One bit of possibly good news here.
>
> In my experience birds (all birds? dunno that) take the empty shells
> some distance away from the nest for discard--apparently to help
> disguise the nest;s location.
halves when the chicks make their arrival, while an egg that fell (or
was pushed by a Cowbird chick) looks about like one of my kitchen
fumbles, and a bird predator's wreckage looks like somebody pecked a
hole in the side of the egg. I'm not sure I have ever seen the wreckage
of non-human, non-bird predation although I know it happens. Maybe they
are eaten whole?
I'm thinking that if the fragment looks like a human predator dropped
the contents into a frying pan, it probably is a normal arrival left-overs.
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