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Cheryl Isaak

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Jul 1, 2009, 9:48:16 PM7/1/09
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Ok - I'm working my way through "Life List" and mostly enjoying it. (ok, I
don't always like her, but I do envy her in some respects.)

A book has been referenced but Munroe and Sibley; the same Sibley as the
bird field guides? A relative? Or sheer coincidence? I left the book in the
car and it is too rainy to go get the book and find the reference to get the
full names. And I can't find any thing on google.(but I cold and tired)

Besides, I know one of you will know....

Cheryl

Rick

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Jul 1, 2009, 10:33:46 PM7/1/09
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There is David Allen who has published several guides and this father
was a Ornithologist and has published many scientific articles about
birds. Does this help? You might be able get some sort of time frame too.

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Rick

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Jul 1, 2009, 10:50:47 PM7/1/09
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Rick wrote:
> Cheryl Isaak wrote:
>> Ok - I'm working my way through "Life List" and mostly enjoying it.
>> (ok, I
>> don't always like her, but I do envy her in some respects.)
>>
>> A book has been referenced but Munroe and Sibley; the same Sibley as the
>> bird field guides? A relative? Or sheer coincidence? I left the book
>> in the
>> car and it is too rainy to go get the book and find the reference to
>> get the
>> full names. And I can't find any thing on google.(but I cold and tired)
>>
>> Besides, I know one of you will know....
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
> There is David Allen who has published several guides and this father
> was a Ornithologist and has published many scientific articles about
> birds. Does this help? You might be able get some sort of time frame too.
>
David's Dad's name was (is?) Fred.

Rick

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Jul 1, 2009, 10:53:05 PM7/1/09
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Rick wrote:
> Cheryl Isaak wrote:
>> Ok - I'm working my way through "Life List" and mostly enjoying it.
>> (ok, I
>> don't always like her, but I do envy her in some respects.)
>>
>> A book has been referenced but Munroe and Sibley; the same Sibley as the
>> bird field guides? A relative? Or sheer coincidence? I left the book
>> in the
>> car and it is too rainy to go get the book and find the reference to
>> get the
>> full names. And I can't find any thing on google.(but I cold and tired)
>>
>> Besides, I know one of you will know....
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
> There is David Allen who has published several guides and this father
> was a Ornithologist and has published many scientific articles about
> birds. Does this help? You might be able get some sort of time frame too.
>
There was also a Charles Sibley who was an Ornithologist at Yale but,
not related to Fred or David.

Cheryl Isaak

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Jul 2, 2009, 9:18:44 AM7/2/09
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On 7/1/09 10:53 PM, in article h2h7f5$i65$2...@aioe.org, "Rick"
<Pawa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick wrote:
>> Cheryl Isaak wrote:
>>> Ok - I'm working my way through "Life List" and mostly enjoying it.
>>> (ok, I
>>> don't always like her, but I do envy her in some respects.)
>>>
>>> A book has been referenced but Munroe and Sibley; the same Sibley as the
>>> bird field guides? A relative? Or sheer coincidence? I left the book
>>> in the
>>> car and it is too rainy to go get the book and find the reference to
>>> get the
>>> full names. And I can't find any thing on google.(but I cold and tired)
>>>
>>> Besides, I know one of you will know....
>>>
>>> Cheryl
>>>
>> There is David Allen who has published several guides and this father
>> was a Ornithologist and has published many scientific articles about
>> birds. Does this help? You might be able get some sort of time frame too.
>>
> There was also a Charles Sibley who was an Ornithologist at Yale but,
> not related to Fred or David.


Still pouring, but I decided to go get the book anyway. (looks like no
lacrosse tonight). Will let everyone know, if someone hasn't answered the
puzzzler first.


C

Martini

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Jul 2, 2009, 9:50:44 AM7/2/09
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Cheryl, you must be referring to the following:

Sibley, C. G. and B. L. Munroe. 1990. Distribution and Taxonomy of the Birds of
the World. Yale University Press, New Haven, Connecticut.

Here's one link that brings up their entire list:

http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Sibley-Monroe_checklist_1/

Enjoy!

Martin

one_pix.gif

Jerry Avins

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Jul 2, 2009, 12:22:52 PM7/2/09
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Martini wrote:

Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.

Jerry
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Martini

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Jul 2, 2009, 1:00:53 PM7/2/09
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Jerry Avins wrote:
> Martini wrote:
>
> Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.
>
> Jerry

Hmmmm. I'm confused. I see lots of links here, including links to binary
resources on web sites. What's different about the link I posted?

Martin

Larry Sheldon

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Jul 2, 2009, 1:10:22 PM7/2/09
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A link is just text. The linked-to material is not part of the message
(occupies no space in the message).

I don't know if this is what the discussion is about but I noticed a
while ago that a message here had a .gif attached which was empty and
wondered what that was about.

I often see messages with a trailer saying that non-text material had
been deleted, but this is the first time an empty .gif has been left.

[time passes] yeah it was "one_pix.gif" attached to a Martini response
to Cheryl, which response also contained a link to knowledgerush.com.
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Martini

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:22:46 PM7/2/09
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Nikki wrote:
> Your post had a file (a very small one) attached to it.
>
> The file name was "one_pix.gif".

Thanks, Larry and Nikki. This is a mystery. I made no attachments to my reply
post, but sure enough, there it is on my 9:50am post today.

I suspect sabotage of some sort. The image in this one little file is 1 pixel x
1 pixel in size, i.e., one pixel. It cannot be seen with the human eye, despite
expanding it 20 times. Such one-pixel images sometimes harbor malware or hidden
instructions to "go to" or "report to" a specific Internet address.

I'd suggest that everybody delete my message just to be sure it isn't further
propagated.

Martin

Martini

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:24:00 PM7/2/09
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Jerry Avins wrote:
> Martini wrote:
>
> Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.
>
> Jerry

Thanks, Jerry. I didn't attach the GIF file and can't explain where it came
from. I have deleted the posting entirely, just to be sure.

Martin

Jerry Avins

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:48:19 PM7/2/09
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I'm puzzled too. Unfortunately, once something is out in usenet space,
there's no way to make it go completely away.

Larry Sheldon

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Jul 2, 2009, 4:04:08 PM7/2/09
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Martini wrote:

>> The file name was "one_pix.gif".
>
> Thanks, Larry and Nikki. This is a mystery. I made no attachments to my reply
> post, but sure enough, there it is on my 9:50am post today.
>
> I suspect sabotage of some sort. The image in this one little file is 1 pixel x
> 1 pixel in size, i.e., one pixel. It cannot be seen with the human eye, despite
> expanding it 20 times. Such one-pixel images sometimes harbor malware or hidden
> instructions to "go to" or "report to" a specific Internet address.

That was my assumption, but none of my tests (crude as they are)
detected anything at all. (I forgot to look at the size of it! Can't
believe I did that.)

> I'd suggest that everybody delete my message just to be sure it isn't further
> propagated.

Outstanding advice.

I just thought of another test I could run--if it reports anything I'll
let you know.

Martini

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Jul 2, 2009, 7:07:38 PM7/2/09
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"Nikki" <noe...@noemailplease.com> wrote in message
news:95sp45lo7ergdfap8...@4ax.com...
Martini wrote:

Your post had a file (a very small one) attached to it.

The file name was "one_pix.gif".

I have examined the contents of the GIF file and found nothing to be concerned
about. There are no instructions of any kind, whether for action by this file
or for referral to another Internet site or resource.

Sleep soundly!

Martin

Leon Fisk

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:18:34 PM7/3/09
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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:48:19 -0400, Jerry Avins
<j...@ieee.org> wrote:

>Martini wrote:
>> Jerry Avins wrote:
>>> Martini wrote:
>>>
>>> Binaries aren't permitted here. Some ISPs strip them.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>
>> Thanks, Jerry. I didn't attach the GIF file and can't explain where it came
>> from. I have deleted the posting entirely, just to be sure.
>
>I'm puzzled too. Unfortunately, once something is out in usenet space,
>there's no way to make it go completely away.
>
>Jerry

I don't know what it is/means, but this is where it
(one_pix.gif) came from per looking over the raw message:

===
Content-Type: image/gif;
name="one_pix.gif"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Location:
http://www.bioone.org/templates/jsp/_style2/_AP/_bioone/images/one_pix.gif

R0lGODlhAQABAJEAAP////////4BAgAAACH5BAQUAP8ALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw==
===

Maybe the website www.bioone.org means something to Martin.
Possibly some clipping and pasting brought it along with
some other material you were posting?

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Martini

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:39:49 PM7/3/09
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Thanks, Leon. The mystery remains. I have no memory of this web site. I
copied a URL to Notepad, which should have severed any connections. Then I
copied the link into the reply I called up to give Cheryl some info.

I'm assuming there was nothing malicious in this one-pixel GIF, partly because
it came from a website that appears to have a constructive purpose.

Martin


Leon Fisk

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Jul 3, 2009, 3:44:11 PM7/3/09
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:39:49 -0400, "Martini"
<hawk...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Thanks, Leon. The mystery remains. I have no memory of this web site. I
>copied a URL to Notepad, which should have severed any connections. Then I
>copied the link into the reply I called up to give Cheryl some info.
>
>I'm assuming there was nothing malicious in this one-pixel GIF, partly because
>it came from a website that appears to have a constructive purpose.

I saved it, looked it over. Seems to be just a one pixel
image in a gif file as its name claims, white color
(#FFFFFF). Sometimes files like this are used for setting
colors in skins for display purposes.

I wouldn't worry about it anymore, I think we have pretty
well beat it to death ;-)

Martini

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:40:36 PM7/3/09
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Amen.

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