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Larry Sheldon

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Dec 30, 2009, 9:51:32 PM12/30/09
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I don't think so!

But I don't know what it is.

(I also have never seen Crows like that, but they look like they could
be Corvids of some kind.)

As if I knew.
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Larry Sheldon

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Dec 30, 2009, 9:55:31 PM12/30/09
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On 12/30/2009 8:51 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> http://pixdaus.com/single.php?id=216422
>
> I don't think so!
>
> But I don't know what it is.
>
> (I also have never seen Crows like that, but they look like they could
> be Corvids of some kind.)
>
> As if I knew.

Is that one Crow (lower left) pulling on the I-think-it's-a-hawk's right
wing tip?

I wonder why. Crow playfulness?

3Putt in Coastal SC

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Dec 30, 2009, 10:04:37 PM12/30/09
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"Larry Sheldon" <lfsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://pixdaus.com/single.php?id=216422
>
> I don't think so!
>
> But I don't know what it is.
>
> (I also have never seen Crows like that, but they look like they could be
> Corvids of some kind.)
>
> As if I knew.
> --
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Without knowing what part of the world this photo was taken it would be
difficult to discount it being a buzzard. but it looks to be the
Long-legged Buzzard from North Africa. And those certainly look like the
Carrion Crow.

>

Rick

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:21:57 PM12/30/09
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Doesn"t the English(British) have a Hawk that is referred to as a
Buzzard? I know that some of them get "haired up" when we sometimes
call TV's Buzzards.

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Dec 31, 2009, 3:39:06 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 30, 11:21 pm, Rick <fholbr...@nospam.cableone.net> wrote:
> 3Putt in Coastal SC wrote:
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The English have a hawk called a "buzzard," which is black and looks
like a turkey vulture. When the English came to America, they
mistook our vulture for their hawk which they called a "buzzard."
Henceforth, a vulture has been incorrectly called a "buzzard.

Jerry Avins

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Dec 31, 2009, 3:47:01 PM12/31/09
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Pretty much like the reason we call turtles "doves".

Jerry
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3Putt in Coastal SC

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Dec 31, 2009, 4:19:00 PM12/31/09
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.> Pretty much like the reason we call turtles "doves".
>
> Jerry
> --
I can't recall turtles being called "doves". Can you cite a reference?
Surely you don't mean Turtle Doves? Or are we getting so far off topic that
this newsgroup has no meaning?

Jerry Avins

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Dec 31, 2009, 4:39:31 PM12/31/09
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3Putt in Coastal SC wrote:
>

There is a passage in the the King James Version (Songs of Solomon 2:12)
"The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is
come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land." When sailors
first saw what we now call turtles the reaction was, "So /that's/ what a
turtle is!" and the name stuck. The word in the Bible is a rendering of
the onomatopoetic Hebrew "turtur", meaning dove. An attempt to clear up
the confusion (which to my mind, only adds to it) led to "turtledove".
The "Bible in Basic English" reads, "The flowers are come on the earth;
the time of cutting the vines is come, and the voice of the dove is
sounding in our land;"

"Turkey" is another one.

Larry Sheldon

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:17:36 PM12/31/09
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On 12/31/2009 3:39 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:

> There is a passage in the the King James Version (Songs of Solomon 2:12)
> "The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is
> come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land." When sailors
> first saw what we now call turtles the reaction was, "So /that's/ what a
> turtle is!" and the name stuck. The word in the Bible is a rendering of
> the onomatopoetic Hebrew "turtur", meaning dove. An attempt to clear up
> the confusion (which to my mind, only adds to it) led to "turtledove".
> The "Bible in Basic English" reads, "The flowers are come on the earth;
> the time of cutting the vines is come, and the voice of the dove is
> sounding in our land;"
>
> "Turkey" is another one.

Fascinating. I guess that is why I don't like the rigid "on-topic"
rules much--it is the unexpected side roads that have all the valuable
stuff on them.

[Note: If you are ever in a vehicle with me, and you are on a tight
schedule, DO _NOT_ say "I wonder where THAT road goes".]

Thanks. I knew about "Robin" (I have the fascinating little book being
read slowly). No I have to find out about "Turkey". I thought they
were 100% American.

jadel

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Dec 31, 2009, 8:01:42 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 30, 9:51 pm, Larry Sheldon <lfshel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://pixdaus.com/single.php?id=216422
>
> I don't think so!
>
> But I don't know what it is.
>
> (I also have never seen Crows like that, but they look like they could
> be Corvids of some kind.)
>
> As if I knew.
> --


That is a common Buzzard (Buteo buteo), and those are Hooded Crows.

J. Del Col

Larry Sheldon

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Dec 31, 2009, 8:18:55 PM12/31/09
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On 12/31/2009 7:01 PM, jadel wrote:
> On Dec 30, 9:51 pm, Larry Sheldon<lfshel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://pixdaus.com/single.php?id=216422
>>
>> I don't think so!
>>
>> But I don't know what it is.
>>
>> (I also have never seen Crows like that, but they look like they could
>> be Corvids of some kind.)
>>
>> As if I knew.

> That is a common Buzzard (Buteo buteo), and those are Hooded Crows.

I should know better. I made biscuits to go with some comb-honey a
daughter sent me.

I have no idea what the Brits would call what I made, but what I made
certainly did not look like crackers (that the Brits call "biscuits".

At least I got the looks-like-a-hawk (Buteo) right.

The more I learn, the dumber I sound. Ain't fair!

jadel

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Jan 1, 2010, 6:41:30 PM1/1/10
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On Dec 31 2009, 8:18 pm, Larry Sheldon <lfshel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/31/2009 7:01 PM, jadel wrote:
>
> > On Dec 30, 9:51 pm, Larry Sheldon<lfshel...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>http://pixdaus.com/single.php?id=216422
>
> >> I don't think so!
>
> >> But I don't know what it is.
>
> >> (I also have never seen Crows like that, but they look like they could
> >> be Corvids of some kind.)
>
> >> As if I knew.
> > That is a common Buzzard (Buteo buteo), and those are Hooded Crows.
>


BTW, Hooded Crows are considered a subspecies of the Carrion Crow.

J. Del Col

jadel

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Jan 1, 2010, 6:48:07 PM1/1/10
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Correction: The British Ornithological Union has split the Carrion
and Hooded Crows into separate species.

J. Del Col

jadel

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Jan 1, 2010, 6:55:02 PM1/1/10
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One more correction: It's the British Ornithologists' Union. Sorry.

J. Del Col

3Putt in Coastal SC

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Jan 1, 2010, 7:09:15 PM1/1/10
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"jadel" <delc...@ab.edu> wrote in message
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> On Jan 1, 6:41 pm, jadel <delco...@ab.edu> wrote:
>> On Dec 31 2009, 8:18 pm, Larry Sheldon <lfshel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 12/31/2009 7:01 PM, jadel wrote:
>>
.>> BTW, Hooded Crows are considered a subspecies of the Carrion Crow.

>
> Correction: The British Ornithological Union has split the Carrion
> and Hooded Crows into separate species.
>
> J. Del Col

So....my book was published in 1972. .It does mention intermediates.

jadel

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Jan 1, 2010, 7:48:25 PM1/1/10
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On Jan 1, 7:09 pm, "3Putt in Coastal SC" <bo...@theswamp.com> wrote:
> "jadel" <delco...@ab.edu> wrote in message

The split was made in 2002.

J. Del Col

Martin Jensen

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:24:51 PM1/4/10
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As was implicit from the beginning (and confirmed repeatedly herein), they ain't
North American.

Martin

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