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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher  
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 4:54 pm
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
From: "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:54:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: What's more corrupt, China or USA?
On Nov 14, 12:28 pm, liaM <cud...@mindless.com> wrote:

> Le 14/11/2012 16:51, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher a écrit :

> > On Nov 14, 9:59 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> > <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 14, 4:51 am, "mortx" <m...@x.org> wrote:

> >>> you might wanna hush about testing all voters and keep it to being a flexitax thing. until youre in charge.

> >>> O:-)

> >> By implementing SPEED CAMERAS, local politicians can dispose of plenty
> >> of cash without raising taxes. But can they take a bite while doing
> >> something actually good?

> >> It sounds challenging.

> > Another solution (the revolution is about solutions) is cracking down
> > on people who litter. Banning chewing gum and cigarette in public
> > places sounds good to me. The fines pay for public projects.

> > Again, it doesn't take care of what they do with the money. "City
> > beautification" should start with clean streets not  pouring money
> > into projects that squeeze drivers and cyclists further. Guess who
> > loses when we are squeezed and we don't have the space to ride a bike.

> > If China promotes the automobile --as they seem to be doing-- we are
> > all doomed. The bicycle is the vehicle of liberation. In that sense,
> > Mao was right.

> "Cracking down on people" is bad practice.  Educating kids from the
> start is what works.  Educate kids about dirt and littering, about
> coughing and smoking, about helping and not grabbing, is what it's about.

"People who litter" deserve some punishment, don't they? They could be
thrown in jail in NYC, but I don't know if they enforce it.

> And making sure to mix boys and girls playing together, rather than
> assigning them sexist roles (such as cheerleading vs. football),
> is what it's about.

> And making sure not to segregate cars and bikes on the road is the
> only way to go.  Mixing them all together is the only way to raise
> their attention and starting them to driving smart (rather than
> driving listening to mp3s and dreaming about their next fast-food break)

That's another model different from the Dutch? They practice
segregation but even kids feel safe riding. Would you mix kids and
cars on the same road?

I don't think so.


 
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