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Wes Groleau
Oct 2, 2012, 9:01:49 PM10/2/12
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Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
The one it replaced was thirty years old.
Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
any kind of weather.
--
Wes Groleau
Expert, n.:
Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.
My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
The one it replaced was thirty years old.
Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
any kind of weather.
--
Wes Groleau
Expert, n.:
Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.
Jay Beattie
Oct 2, 2012, 9:18:58 PM10/2/12
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pair of Shimano SPD. Even the cheap ones last a long time. Last
season, I rode through water above my bottom bracket, and when I
cracked open the old SPDs, the grease was still fresh.
-- Jay Beattie.
datakoll
Oct 2, 2012, 9:32:55 PM10/2/12
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$$$ PLUS STEEL
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=113
MIND BOGGLING ! most for small feet
takum apart and grease replace bearings spring/fall
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=113
MIND BOGGLING ! most for small feet
takum apart and grease replace bearings spring/fall
somebody
Oct 2, 2012, 9:39:22 PM10/2/12
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work at all. Great stuff.
Frank Krygowski
Oct 2, 2012, 10:55:40 PM10/2/12
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Wes Groleau wrote:
> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>
> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>
> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>
> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
> any kind of weather.
>
What make and model of pedal gave you that problem? I'm wondering if
> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>
> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>
> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>
> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
> any kind of weather.
>
it's an anomaly.
I have one friend who had a pedal lock up on a ride many years ago.
Sorry, I don't remember what brand. But when we opened it up, we found
one bearing ball had split neatly in two, then jammed the works. I
imagine that was the fault of the bearing manufacturer, one that could
have afflicted almost any brand of similar quality, and probably a very
rare occurrence.
--
- Frank Krygowski
John B.
Oct 3, 2012, 9:16:27 AM10/3/12
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:01:49 -0400, Wes Groleau
<Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>
>My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>
>The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>
>Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
>any kind of weather.
You don't say what type pedals you are presently using.
<Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>
>My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>
>The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>
>Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
>any kind of weather.
I have been using Shimano SPD pedals for a few years and have had
literally no problems with the two models I have used, the M520 and
M540. I do occasionally oil them though :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
landotter
Oct 3, 2012, 10:39:14 AM10/3/12
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On Oct 2, 8:01 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>
> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>
> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>
> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
> any kind of weather.
>
> --
> Wes Groleau
Depends on what your requirements are. Anything cartridge bearing
> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>
> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>
> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>
> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
> any kind of weather.
>
> --
> Wes Groleau
should be fairly weather proof. I've got SPuDs that are nearly 15
years old, and though they have a little slop in the bushing, the
cartridge bearing is smooth. VO makes traditional pedals with carts.
That said, loose ball with marine grease will hold up to a lot,as will
fairly junky pedals if you drip motor oil into them every now and
again. Pedals don't care much what you lubricate them with as long as
you do.
Wes Groleau
Oct 4, 2012, 1:22:08 AM10/4/12
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And searching the whole site for "plus steel" only turns up an Abus lock.
--
Wes Groleau
“But, Professor! I didn't plagiarize! I paid someone to
write the essay for me, and that person plagiarized!"
— from http://rateyourstudents.blogspot.com
Wes Groleau
Oct 4, 2012, 1:25:18 AM10/4/12
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so it's a bit irritating to have the replacement last less than one
year. Maybe it's a fluke like someone suggested.
But it makes me want a warranty to claim when the next fluke strikes.
--
Wes Groleau
Can we afford to be relevant?
http://www.cetesol.org/stevick.html
Wes Groleau
Oct 4, 2012, 1:26:46 AM10/4/12
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On 10-02-2012 22:55, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> What make and model of pedal gave you that problem? I'm wondering if
> it's an anomaly.
Could be. I don't recall the make after a year. But the next one will
> What make and model of pedal gave you that problem? I'm wondering if
> it's an anomaly.
have the original packaging and the warranty carefully filed for posterity.
--
Wes Groleau
“Lewis's case for the existence of God is fallacious.”
"You mean like circular reasoning?”
“He believes in God. Therefore, he's fallacious."
Wes Groleau
Oct 4, 2012, 10:50:50 PM10/4/12
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On 10-04-2012 01:25, Wes Groleau wrote:
> Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
> so it's a bit irritating to have the replacement last less than one
> year. Maybe it's a fluke like someone suggested.
>
> But it makes me want a warranty to claim when the next fluke strikes.
Mechanic says none of them have warranties.
> Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
> so it's a bit irritating to have the replacement last less than one
> year. Maybe it's a fluke like someone suggested.
>
> But it makes me want a warranty to claim when the next fluke strikes.
Perhaps my originals were sealed bearings. That's what I ended up buying.
--
Wes Groleau
"What progress we are making! In the Middle Ages, they would have
burnt me; nowadays they are content with burning my books.”
— Sigmund Freud, 1933
"He was never to know that even that was only an illusory progress,
that ten years later they would have burned his body as well.”
— Ernest Jones, 1953
Jay Beattie
Oct 4, 2012, 10:58:31 PM10/4/12
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what brand of pedal broke and what brand lasted 30 years.
-- Jay Beattie.
AMuzi
Oct 5, 2012, 12:19:14 AM10/5/12
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a lot of that time parked.
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
datakoll
Oct 5, 2012, 4:09:31 AM10/5/12
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> > http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=113
when I commuted, the pedals had miles. Used Bear Traps then abt $12 pair. Each pair, beginning on the right, cracked internally around the bearing race at 2000 miles. Multiple cracks, 'Like' impressive cracking.
I have a tool rigged, socket inside socket for lubing the Traps but the housing ? The beaings look round but maybe not.
The race is ferrous but housing is aluminum.
Question was and is...I stocked Traps...how many more effective miles from a pedal costing $50 more or how to $ffectively deter$ine the potential ?
Factor going my way here was pedals trend toward 'racers' pedals...faster lower and SMALLER...I have large feet lika duck so....
Shimano has position. 'Like' Old Volvo, reliability makes or breaks the Rep
maybe pedals for extreme endurance MTB organized competition have Rep ?
Lou Holtman
Oct 5, 2012, 7:52:20 AM10/5/12
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Op 4-10-2012 7:25, Wes Groleau schreef:
Here an item has to be warranted over a period equal to the reasonable
expected lifetime of that item no matter what the manufacturer says
(Apple's one year warranty period is ridiculous ie). It is a little bit
fuzzy I know but eventually you get it warranted. After three years my
garagedoor opener failed, one year after the two year warranty period of
the manufacturer. After what legal assistance I got it replaced for free
because a garagedoor opener should last more than two years.
A lifetime of one year for pedals is too short. Failing after 30 years;
you were lucky.
Lou
expected lifetime of that item no matter what the manufacturer says
(Apple's one year warranty period is ridiculous ie). It is a little bit
fuzzy I know but eventually you get it warranted. After three years my
garagedoor opener failed, one year after the two year warranty period of
the manufacturer. After what legal assistance I got it replaced for free
because a garagedoor opener should last more than two years.
A lifetime of one year for pedals is too short. Failing after 30 years;
you were lucky.
Lou
thirty-six
Oct 5, 2012, 8:32:19 AM10/5/12
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expectation. If neither can be brought to testimony then it's down to
price and general expectations One may buy crap pedals for a fiver
and in all honesty one wouldn't want them to last a full year, but if
one if paying £50 then there is a common assumed expectation that they
will last in excess of five years when installed and serviced
correctly and not subjected to treatment which is obviously outside
the design or sales intention. I bought racing pedals because my
intentions included racing but I might buy them in any case because
they can take repeated clouting without falling to pieces. Anything
which is touted as lightweight though is asking for low durability.
My recommendation for pedals is buy cheap and treat them as disposable
(keep a pair spare) or pay for something tough.
datakoll
Oct 5, 2012, 11:28:46 AM10/5/12
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I'LL WORK UP A N RBT TRANSLATION COLUMN....uh uh due maybe uh uh June.
datakoll
Oct 5, 2012, 11:30:28 AM10/5/12
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schreef...
obviously necessary :
the dutch are dishonest, cheating, unethical and stoned out of their skulls.
obviously necessary :
the dutch are dishonest, cheating, unethical and stoned out of their skulls.
AMuzi
Oct 5, 2012, 12:51:37 PM10/5/12
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Nederlands drug use rates are lower than USA rates.
Wes Groleau
Oct 5, 2012, 6:38:41 PM10/5/12
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On 10-04-2012 22:58, Jay Beattie wrote:
> Are these platforms or clipless or what . . . I was never clear on
> what brand of pedal broke and what brand lasted 30 years.
They had "rat traps" and they were the ones that came with the bike
> Are these platforms or clipless or what . . . I was never clear on
> what brand of pedal broke and what brand lasted 30 years.
(Nishiki) when I bought it for $400 in 1980 or 1981.
The one that lasted less than a year, I don't know the brand but the
pair cost about thirty dollars.
In both pairs, it was the left one that locked up, The good right one
and the "bad" right one both still spin freely.
--
Wes Groleau
What kind of smiley is C:\ ?
Wes Groleau
Oct 5, 2012, 6:42:07 PM10/5/12
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On 10-05-2012 00:19, AMuzi wrote:
> At 30 years, it wasn't a cute little Lyotard unless it spent a lot of
> that time parked.
It did 26+ miles a day from 1980 or 1981 to 1984.
> At 30 years, it wasn't a cute little Lyotard unless it spent a lot of
> that time parked.
Then it did spend a lot of time parked till 2010.
Since July of 2010, probably around fifty miles a week.
--
Wes Groleau
Free speech has its limits
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.org/WWW?itemid=99
datakoll
Oct 5, 2012, 7:31:28 PM10/5/12
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AHHH INTERNATIONAL REPARTEE....Bien. Off course its the French but maybe the Germans...capital investment somewhat dilute on the Netherlands..
The Dutch recently had their coffee houses examined in the press...otherwise I'd not been conscious of this...from a referedum on somehting drug related...seems one may stop oin at the coffe house after work...pedaling a pump or standing around with a finger in the dike...and have a cup and some black Afghani hashish.
Shall we comapre thee to a day in Madison WI ? Nada., I'm told that theese affairs take place 10-20- miles out ....
The Dutch recently had their coffee houses examined in the press...otherwise I'd not been conscious of this...from a referedum on somehting drug related...seems one may stop oin at the coffe house after work...pedaling a pump or standing around with a finger in the dike...and have a cup and some black Afghani hashish.
Shall we comapre thee to a day in Madison WI ? Nada., I'm told that theese affairs take place 10-20- miles out ....
datakoll
Oct 5, 2012, 7:51:31 PM10/5/12
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we see a lotta more than WILD UNRESONABLE claims on mileages..I doahno why....my reality tends more is this true or false or is this truer or mfalser and why or not why.
If you wanna lie thru your teeth abt your pedals then we'll ignore it without downgrading your report to gruntings from a monkey.
an interesting deal with the ten speed rat traps...the better ones could fail but were designed to continue bringing you home following failure.
a polar from the carbon fiber group.
If you wanna lie thru your teeth abt your pedals then we'll ignore it without downgrading your report to gruntings from a monkey.
an interesting deal with the ten speed rat traps...the better ones could fail but were designed to continue bringing you home following failure.
a polar from the carbon fiber group.
Wes Groleau
Oct 5, 2012, 10:52:41 PM10/5/12
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On 10-05-2012 19:51, datakoll wrote:
> If you wanna lie thru your teeth abt your pedals
If this means you think I'm lying, you're entitled to your opinion.
> If you wanna lie thru your teeth abt your pedals
--
Wes Groleau
There ain't no right wing,
there ain't no left wing.
There's only you and me and we just disagree.
(apologies to Jim Krueger)
datakoll
Oct 5, 2012, 11:39:22 PM10/5/12
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no Les, not at all...its only RBT humor. We have noooooo idea why you wrote the pedals did X or Y.
We read of chains running 10,000 miles....tires ditto....an Emeritus continues claiming eternal spoke life....
with foundation for example..."my chains last 7000 miles because I use brake fluid chain lube." This is possible but unlikely in nirmalexperience.
posters land here with the explicit purpose of telling us their chain ran 10000 miles using mineral oil. Maybe it did. maybe their crazy, goofing on us or using an incommunicable language form.
Once in a while a professional level writer contributes goofing on us....AAA !
If you write your chain lasts 30 years then its off our charts...
But if you write the chain on your bicycle is 30 years old then we understand.
You do see we responded outside that statement ?
Accept my apologies for relating your language skills to those of a monkey.
datakoll
Oct 5, 2012, 11:48:11 PM10/5/12
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My chains are serviced including useing holy water, sacrificing chickens, and thanking the chain and their ancestors before every ride. Never go beyond 2500 miles. Maybe 3. Then there are bad days....
? How do I react to claims of 10000 miles ? We look and ask for reasons why the chain ran that far....SOMEONE HAS FOUND THE ANSWER !
Not yet and deafinitley not at $50 an Oz.
and no, molydedenum doesn't cut it either
? How do I react to claims of 10000 miles ? We look and ask for reasons why the chain ran that far....SOMEONE HAS FOUND THE ANSWER !
Not yet and deafinitley not at $50 an Oz.
and no, molydedenum doesn't cut it either
Frank Krygowski
Oct 6, 2012, 12:35:29 AM10/6/12
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On Oct 5, 11:39 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ..maybe their crazy, goofing on us or using an incommunicable language form.
Gosh, who among us would ever use an incommunicable language
form? ;-)
(Actually, when something baffles me, I tend to assume it's meant to
be art. That applies to certain incommunicable language forms. Maybe
I'm incorrect, but my assumption does make me feel better.)
- Frank Krygowski
> ..maybe their crazy, goofing on us or using an incommunicable language form.
Gosh, who among us would ever use an incommunicable language
form? ;-)
(Actually, when something baffles me, I tend to assume it's meant to
be art. That applies to certain incommunicable language forms. Maybe
I'm incorrect, but my assumption does make me feel better.)
- Frank Krygowski
Lou Holtman
Oct 6, 2012, 8:55:31 AM10/6/12
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Op 6-10-2012 1:31, datakoll schreef:
couldn't be helped anyway. We accept those losers and accomodate them
that way. It is the foreigners that cause trouble sometimes because they
can't handle this kind of 'freedom'. It is like the Scandinavians who
are always drunk when they go abroad because of their own ridiculous
alcohol policy.
Lou
> AHHH INTERNATIONAL REPARTEE....Bien. Off course its the French but maybe the Germans...capital investment somewhat dilute on the Netherlands..
>
> The Dutch recently had their coffee houses examined in the press...otherwise I'd not been conscious of this...from a referedum on somehting drug related...seems one may stop oin at the coffe house after work...pedaling a pump or standing around with a finger in the dike...and have a cup and some black Afghani hashish.
Yes we could do that but we don't accept for small group of losers which
>
> The Dutch recently had their coffee houses examined in the press...otherwise I'd not been conscious of this...from a referedum on somehting drug related...seems one may stop oin at the coffe house after work...pedaling a pump or standing around with a finger in the dike...and have a cup and some black Afghani hashish.
couldn't be helped anyway. We accept those losers and accomodate them
that way. It is the foreigners that cause trouble sometimes because they
can't handle this kind of 'freedom'. It is like the Scandinavians who
are always drunk when they go abroad because of their own ridiculous
alcohol policy.
>
> Shall we comapre thee to a day in Madison WI ? Nada., I'm told that theese affairs take place 10-20- miles out ....
How hard is it to get a joint in the US?
> Shall we comapre thee to a day in Madison WI ? Nada., I'm told that theese affairs take place 10-20- miles out ....
Lou
andre...@aol.com
Oct 6, 2012, 10:38:20 AM10/6/12
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On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 7:01:51 PM UTC-6, Wes Groleau wrote:
> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>
>
>
> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>
>
>
> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>
>
>
> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
>
> any kind of weather.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Wes Groleau
>
>
>
> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>
>
>
> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>
>
>
> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>
>
>
> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
>
> any kind of weather.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Wes Groleau
>
>
>
> Expert, n.:
>
> Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.
for commuting, use an open bmx pedal with the teeth. It will keep your feet stable, and if they can handle andy mcaskill, they'll handle everything:
>
> Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o
danny macaskill bike
AMuzi
Oct 6, 2012, 11:29:22 AM10/6/12
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there are fewer espresso drinkers than potheads, at least in
my neighborhood. The whole block smells of it in the evenings.
p.s. the congnoscenti use small pipes, not the rolled joints
as we remember from The Olden Days before the industry
discovered hybridization and modern productivity techniques.
Frank Krygowski
Oct 6, 2012, 2:11:22 PM10/6/12
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On Oct 6, 8:53 am, Lou Holtman <lou.holt...@usenet.nl> wrote:
> It is the foreigners that cause trouble sometimes because they
> can't handle this kind of 'freedom'. It is like the Scandinavians who
> are always drunk when they go abroad because of their own ridiculous
> alcohol policy.
We were in Krakow about five years ago, not long after super-cheap
> It is the foreigners that cause trouble sometimes because they
> can't handle this kind of 'freedom'. It is like the Scandinavians who
> are always drunk when they go abroad because of their own ridiculous
> alcohol policy.
flights began bringing in British guys on drinking binges. My wife
and I were on Bikes Friday with their suitcase trailers, pedaling
toward our B&B through the main Market Square (Rynek Glowny). Some
drunk 20-something Brit ran alongside us and plopped his butt onto the
top of my trailer, for the amusement of his crowd of drunken Brit
friends.
The young Polish guy leading us to the B&B said "The British drunks
have just started arriving here, and already everyone hates them."
On the plus (& tech) side, the Friday's trailer perfectly resisted the
impact of his butt and the weight of his body.
- Frank Krygowski
Dan O
Oct 6, 2012, 9:57:01 PM10/6/12
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requires letting go of concepts like "incorrect".
Wes Groleau
Oct 6, 2012, 10:02:18 PM10/6/12
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On 10-05-2012 23:39, datakoll wrote:
> If you write your chain lasts 30 years then its off our charts...
> But if you write the chain on your bicycle is 30 years old then we understand.
Not a lot of difference. But the fact is, the only thing replaced on
> If you write your chain lasts 30 years then its off our charts...
> But if you write the chain on your bicycle is 30 years old then we understand.
that bike in the first thirty-plus years I owned it was a light bulb.
Of course, as I mentioned elsewhere, the bike did not get heavy use some
of those years. Probably a total of between forty and fifty thousand
miles. But it seems things "hit the fan" the past year.
New tubes--one from a thorn off-road (serves me right for taking a road
bike off-road) the other from a blowout on a hot day.
New rim--thanks to ice on a curve
New pedals--bearing finally froze up on the left.
New tires--one from the blowout, the other because I could see the
possibility it would blow too.
New pedals again, because the second set was junk.
I'm thinking the crank bearings will be soon, too. There's some wobble,
and some strange sounds.
So, it looks like the life expectancy of almost all original parts of
this particular bike is over forty thousand miles.
Contrast that to my cargo tricycle. Had to replace disintegrated
bearings in the first three months, and today, with less than five
hundred miles on it, the axle broke.
--
Wes Groleau
“There ain't nothin' in this world that's worth being a snot over.”
— Larry Wall
datakoll
Oct 6, 2012, 10:23:13 PM10/6/12
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BUY TWO
datakoll
Oct 6, 2012, 10:33:42 PM10/6/12
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On Saturday, October 6, 2012 8:53:43 AM UTC-4, Lou Holtman wrote:
> Op 6-10-2012 1:31, datakoll schreef:
>
> > AHHH INTERNATIONAL REPARTEE....Bien. Off course its the French but maybe the Germans...capital investment somewhat dilute on the Netherlands..
>
> >
>
> > The Dutch recently had their ....examined...
> Op 6-10-2012 1:31, datakoll schreef:
>
> > AHHH INTERNATIONAL REPARTEE....Bien. Off course its the French but maybe the Germans...capital investment somewhat dilute on the Netherlands..
>
> >
>
now wait Lou...the Scandanavians instituted Dutch coffee/hashish/sex shops in the Netherlands ? Then the Scands get drunk n caws trouble...like what trouble ?
Maybe the Dutch cawsing 'trouble' are non-guilders and in the slammer or guilders running the coffee/hashish/sex shops ?
John Thompson
Oct 7, 2012, 1:06:26 AM10/7/12
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On 2012-10-04, Wes Groleau <Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
So, why did you replace it?
> Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
--
-John (jo...@os2.dhs.org)
Wes Groleau
Oct 7, 2012, 1:52:38 PM10/7/12
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On 10-07-2012 01:06, John Thompson wrote:
> On 2012-10-04, Wes Groleau <Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
>> Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
>
> So, why did you replace it?
Because it didn't last thirty-one years.
> On 2012-10-04, Wes Groleau <Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
>> Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
>
> So, why did you replace it?
Actually, it did. thirty years was a rounded off figure.
Bearings on the left finally wore out and it locked up.
--
Wes Groleau
From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth,
From the laziness that is content with half-truths,
From the arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
O God of Truth, deliver us.
--Leslie Dixon Weatherhead
--Rabbi Mordechai M. Kaplan
--ancient prayer
--unknown
--(no attempt at attribution)
(a thousand thanks to someone who can tell me who
really wrote it AND persuade me they're not making it up!)
datakoll
Oct 7, 2012, 7:31:47 PM10/7/12
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