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Jeff Kwapil

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Feb 2, 2003, 4:19:43 PM2/2/03
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My trusty Trek 420 has more than its share of scratches. I may have it
repainted.

If you had an excellent frame-finishing experience, please post contact info
for those responsible.

A couple that have been recommended to me:

Joe Bell Bicycle Refinishing
3735 Kenora Dr., Suite C
Spring Valley, CA 91977
(619) 469-4312
http://www.campyonly.com/joebell.html

CyclArt
2590 Pioneer Ave. Suite A
Vista, CA 92083-8427.
Phone 760-599-1015.
Fax 760-599-1017
http://www.cyclart.com


Wayne Pein

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Feb 2, 2003, 5:24:11 PM2/2/03
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Jeff Kwapil wrote:

These painters do heirloom quality work, and that may be overkill from both and
aesthetic and monetary perspective for your "trusty" bike. I would consider
having it powdercoated, which is allegedly a more durable coating. There are
several websites that do bicycle specific powdercoating, but you might have a
generic powdercoater in your area that could do it too.

Here's one that is not bicycle specific, but does bicycles pretty cheaply.

http://www.procoatings.com/

Wayne


Jeff Kwapil

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Feb 2, 2003, 6:04:48 PM2/2/03
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I wish to repaint my 1988 Trek 420.

Are decals available? I hate to say, but Trek did not reply to my email.

Love Trek bikes,
Jeff

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Paul Southworth

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Feb 2, 2003, 6:35:33 PM2/2/03
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In article <kuh%9.440$H_2...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>,

Jeff Kwapil <nos...@mail.com> wrote:
>I wish to repaint my 1988 Trek 420.
>
>Are decals available? I hate to say, but Trek did not reply to my email.

For almost any bike manufacturer, the best way to find out
about decals is:

1. Ask a dealer to ask the mfr.
2. Ask a bike painter

The very worst way to get anything from a bike manufacturer
is probably email. A few do it well, a few are hit or miss,
the rest don't care and do not consider it a support channel
for customers at all. I think Trek is in the "hit or miss"
category. Sometimes they do OK, other times black hole.

--Paul

David L. Johnson

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Feb 2, 2003, 9:51:40 PM2/2/03
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On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 17:24:11 -0500, Wayne Pein wrote:

> Jeff Kwapil wrote:
>
>> My trusty Trek 420 has more than its share of scratches. I may have it
>> repainted.

> These painters do heirloom quality work, and that may be overkill from


> both and aesthetic and monetary perspective for your "trusty" bike. I
> would consider having it powdercoated, which is allegedly a more durable
> coating. There are several websites that do bicycle specific
> powdercoating, but you might have a generic powdercoater in your area
> that could do it too.
>

I agree. I had my 30-year-old track bike powder-coated, and was amazed
with the results. They can do great things with powder-coat. Find a
shop that does motorcycles and similar stuff locally. They will be very
good with the details. I had the frame powder-coated, and fork chromed,
for $150.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | You will say Christ saith this and the apostles say this; but
_`\(,_ | what canst thou say? -- George Fox.
(_)/ (_) |

Andy M-S

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Feb 3, 2003, 10:59:34 AM2/3/03
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"David L. Johnson" <David L. Johnson <david....@lehigh.edu>> wrote in message news:<b1klfs$m...@fidoii.CC.Lehigh.EDU>...

> On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 17:24:11 -0500, Wayne Pein wrote:
>
> > Jeff Kwapil wrote:
> >
> >> My trusty Trek 420 has more than its share of scratches. I may have it
> >> repainted.
>
> > These painters do heirloom quality work, and that may be overkill from
> > both and aesthetic and monetary perspective for your "trusty" bike. I
> > would consider having it powdercoated, which is allegedly a more durable
> > coating. There are several websites that do bicycle specific
> > powdercoating, but you might have a generic powdercoater in your area
> > that could do it too.
> >
> I agree. I had my 30-year-old track bike powder-coated, and was amazed
> with the results. They can do great things with powder-coat. Find a
> shop that does motorcycles and similar stuff locally. They will be very
> good with the details. I had the frame powder-coated, and fork chromed,
> for $150.

I'll add to the agreement. www.spectrumpowderworks.com does
remarkable work--my Bianchi came back looking more celeste than ever
before, and the lugs show up very, very nicely. If I ever have a bike
custom built, I might very well have Spectrum do the paint job...

Jeff Wills

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Feb 3, 2003, 12:05:22 PM2/3/03
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Wayne Pein <wp...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3E3D9A8A...@nc.rr.com>...

> These painters do heirloom quality work, and that may be overkill from both and
> aesthetic and monetary perspective for your "trusty" bike. I would consider
> having it powdercoated, which is allegedly a more durable coating. There are
> several websites that do bicycle specific powdercoating, but you might have a
> generic powdercoater in your area that could do it too.
>
> Here's one that is not bicycle specific, but does bicycles pretty cheaply.
>
> http://www.procoatings.com/
>
> Wayne

I'd be a little leary of using a powdercoater who didn't do bicycles
on a regular basis. I've seen some *bad* powdercoat jobs on bicycles.

If you're near Portland, OR, Class Act does a lot of production work
for major & minor manufacturers:

Class Act Paint & Powder Inc
8700 NE Columbia Bv Portland, OR 97220-1329
(503) 254-6400

If you want an upscale paint job (probably overkill for an old
Trek...), Acme is it:
Acme Paint Shop
1640 Se 10th PORTLAND, OR 97214-3519
(503) 238-0829


Jeff

Wayne Pein

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Feb 3, 2003, 12:58:57 PM2/3/03
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Andy M-S wrote:

>
> I'll add to the agreement. www.spectrumpowderworks.com does
> remarkable work--my Bianchi came back looking more celeste than ever
> before, and the lugs show up very, very nicely. If I ever have a bike
> custom built, I might very well have Spectrum do the paint job...

I'm thinking about a new custom steel frame and have begun the preliminary search process. A couple of builders I'm interested
in do paint, but I would much rather have powdercoat. I haven't asked them, but I'm wondering the likelihood of working out a
deal.

Wayne

Jon Isaacs

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Feb 3, 2003, 1:49:27 PM2/3/03
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>Joe Bell Bicycle Refinishing
>3735 Kenora Dr., Suite C
>Spring Valley, CA 91977
>(619) 469-4312
>http://www.campyonly.com/joebell.html
>
>CyclArt
>2590 Pioneer Ave. Suite A
>Vista, CA 92083-8427.
>Phone 760-599-1015.
>Fax 760-599-1017
>http://www.cyclart.com


Add Brian Bayliss to that list and you have some top notch and potentially
expensive painters. These guys are "the best." (I am sure there are others
equally good but there are reasons that builders ship bikes to Joe Bell from
the east coast.)

I agree Powder Coating would probably be best for the Trek in question because
of the cost, I just had a frame powder coated for that reason.

But I think that in terms of durability and appearance, a paint job from any of
these guys with a clear coat will be superior to a Powder coat. And of course,
there is that something about a top notch paint job that just cannot be
duplicated.

CyclArt does do powder coating so if you are in the area that is one way to go
to make sure you do get a good job.

Also, both CyclArt and JB and probably Bayliss have decals for many bikes.

jon isaacs


Patrick

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Feb 3, 2003, 3:10:40 PM2/3/03
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Cyclesmith in the San Diego area is another good option. They recently
repainted my Masi *perfectly*. It helps that they were the factory
painter for Masi during all the California years. :) BTW the cost was
less than 1/2 of what Cyclart quoted me for the same job.

Phone # is 760-746-2522.

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Feb 5, 2003, 1:32:52 AM2/5/03
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Jeff: Normally, decals & paint are only kept around for a couple of years,
but your best bet would be to go to your LBS and, assuming they sell TREK
(or Klein or LeMond or Fisher), have them call their inside sales rep and
see if the decals are available. I wouldn't be too hopeful though! But
while you're at the shop, you might check out the decals on current TREK
bikes and see if there are any that might look nice on your bike, as they
*could* order those for you.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


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