Goggles
TBerk
whips around my glasses while riding, the tearing the dry eyes, etc.
Besides I was also thinking of the bouncing and potential for
'dislodgement from the standard riding position' (crash) that can send
prescription glasses flying in another direction that the rider.
So, adding some Goggles seemed like a decent thing to investigate, and
then it came to mind a prescription lenses might be available (I see
sports figures with them...).
Anyone want to address riding your bike with either plain goggles and/
or prescription lenses in same?
berk
landotter
Unless it's real nasty ice bike conditions, it's pretty goofy looking
and extreme. Sports glasses with a script insert are the way to go.
They grip your head fairly tenaciously and if they do fly off in a
crash, the inserts are usually tucked away enough to not get smooshed.
That all said--plain prescription glasses are cheap if you get them on
line in case you want to face plant fortnightly.
AMuzi
We sell parachute goggles $14.95 clear or tint
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
carl...@comcast.net
Dear T,
Goggles were standard on dusty, rainy, and sunny Tour de France roads:
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Bottecchia1.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/JB.JPG.html
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Fontan29.JPG.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Chocolat.JPG.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1
Not the TDF, but a good view of three pairs of goggles:
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Morand_001.jpg.html
Sometimes two pairs of goggles were neeeded:
A confused camera pose? Or tinted and clear goggles?
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
datakoll
thrumming down the lane as we head into West Berlin....
goggles suck.
try Emigsville, Yorketowne Optical or something like that. The Yorkees
offer a clip-tape on shade with wind and glare wings for peanuts. $35
minumun gets you a gray, a yellow for night vision against headlights
(you supply Bball cap), and light and dark browns. The light brown is
effective is medium glare increasing depth on cloudy days and on sunny
days turning the blue sky blue.
long lasting with care-wash under flow, liquid soap diluted then wipe
with silicone paper. no griting.
goggles are a huge PITA. necessary for hi speeds. at hi speeds there's
an airflow keeps goggles clear and comfortable.
AMuzi
Goggles are nice in rain/snow/sleet with wind.
(assuming any accessory can make that 'nice')
datakoll
have a selection for hiking, skiing, cycling. Wal's is enough. Woven
fabric tubes in bright colors feeding thru a plug are my favorite.
Helps finding the specs when misplaced.
one goggle function is keeping the eye area warm. Real bitter/wind
chill cold can freeze the eye area above the cheekbone.
Andre Jute
I wear goggles only perhaps a dozen or two times a year, when it is so
cold that tears in my eyes blind me, which isn't a recommended
condition on my twisty lanes, especially on the downhill sections.
For spectacle wearers it is very difficult to find OTG (over the
glasses) goggles. I use a pair of ski goggles that are slowly wrecking
the expensive frames of my spectacles. I have many pairs of expensive
ski goggles but the ones I find best for wearing cycling I bought
cheap at Lidl.
Two further things to look out for in goggles you buy to wear over
your spectacles. First, there must be lots of ventilation, otherwise
they fog. Whether the ventilation should be adjustable is another
matter; I don't really have an opinion as I have yet met no condition
in which I didn't keep the vents wide open on all my ski glasses
whether skiing or cycling. Second, ski glasses routinely come in blue
tint for very bright days and orange tint for dull days. You in fact
want the orange because it is also good at night and into the sun; it
polarizes glare much better than the blue tint. If your own spectacles
are photographic, as mine are (I can't be bothered to swap glasses
when I leave the house or look out of the window of my study onto the
sunlit garden), the orange tint also works better with the
photochromatic browns than the blue tint.
If you can find shooter's goggles with yellow glass that are large
enough to fit over your spectacles, they're absolutely the best for
all cycling purposes, especially if your own spectacles are
photochromatic. I had a pair that was issued to German tank commanders
that worked a treat but a thief (read "customs officer" if you insist)
at the Albanian border declared them "war contraband" and pocketed
them. I should have given them to the Austrian speed cop who earlier
that day offered to let me off a fine for doing double the speed limit
if I gave him my goggles.
I had a pair of ski goggles with a holder inside each lens to clasp a
prescription lens. They were just an outrageously overpriced (several
hundred dollars by the time they were on my face) nuisance to set up
and wear, and I was glad when they were stolen (the insurance paid...)
Also, they just put you back where you were before, fearing that the
glass might break into your eyes; plastic lenses don't last when they
are handled that much.
HTH.
Andre Jute
Visit Jute on Bicycles at
http://www.audio-talk.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html
Andre Jute
> We sell parachute goggles $14.95 clear or tint
For spectacle wears like Mr Berk and several of the rest of us goggles
need either to be large enough to fit over spectacles or small enough
to fit spectacle lenses into. There is a problem with spectacle lenses
when they grow over a certain size in that the edges become very thick
and the glass very heavy. In the case where spectacle lenses are
fitted into goggles that are small enough to take the lenses, the
goggles must be angled on the face to give peripheral vision and this
usually requires a specially adapted prescription, as a normal
spectacle grind presumes the lenses to be parallel to the plane of the
cornea. In a time when many so-called "opticians" are merely minimally-
trained fast-sale merchants of standard offthepeg glasses (the sort of
thing that someone said on RBT he mailorders outta China), with anyone
needing the sort of test one could once get on any Main Street now
automatically sent to a specialist, the guys who could handle that are
twenty years retired (all the ones in my town are ten years in their
grave).
Andre Jute
When I fold up my specs, you don't want to be standing in front of me
Jay
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http://www.neiu.edu/~jbollyn/bike/winter/goggles-bala.jpg
I wear them for Chicago year-round commuting.
http://www.amazon.com/Oakley-Frame-Goggle-Black-Persimmon/dp/B000K7IJI8
J.
landotter
> "TBerk" <bayareab...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Motorists don't fuck with Cylons!
Dan O
> Yep, not Google, but Goggles. I was thinking about all the wind that
> whips around my glasses while riding, the tearing the dry eyes, etc.
>
Noah *wants* the wind to make his eyes water:
http://www.newbelgium.com/blog/post/trade-my-car-bike-portland-0
Peter Cole
I wear glasses with a moderate correction (2 diopter). For most riding,
I simply wear glasses (polycarbonate), either normal or tinted. Since I
also do a lot of boating, I generally wear a strap ("Croakie" or similar).
Sports goggles or sunglasses have different issues depending if you need
corrective lenses, and whether the correction is done as part of the
goggle/sunglass or glasses are worn under.
I've owned a few pairs of prescription cycling glasses. The style I've
used are those with separate inserts that clip inside.
On the whole, the wrap-around with insert style have several
disadvantages. Most highly curved glasses can't be ground to very
significant correction without introducing distortion. The consequence
of that is the insert tends to be flat, making the outer lens stand off
from the face, allowing cold air and/or dust to get under them, removing
most of the advantage of the style. Ski goggles, which have sufficient
stand-off to fit glasses under kill peripheral vision.
I wear ski goggles only in frigid conditions (say below 15 F or so). In
merely cold weather (say below 40 F) I use cycling glasses with inserts.
I found some that fit close to the face, the inserts are curved, I get
some distortion at my correction, but it's tolerable. The rest of the
time, I use lightweight plastic lensed glasses of a normal style. Since
I'm nearsighted, for cycling and driving I prefer low height lenses that
I can look under to read the dash or cycle-computer (poor man's bifocals).
I don't crash often enough on the road (never have) to worry about
glasses. Off-road, I have crashed many times, but retention straps kept
my glasses on my face every time. The biggest hazard to glasses in my
experience is sitting or stepping on them.
datakoll
Tom Sherman °_°
About a 5 minute ride from Andy's shop.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
datakoll
but the need for $14 goggles ? community service.
Frank Krygowski
>
>
> Anyone want to address riding your bike with either plain goggles and/
> or prescription lenses in same?
Well, about goggles: A super-fashionable young girl of my
acquaintance occasionally shows up at social gatherings wearing a pair
of goggles. Not over her eyes, but up on her head - at the ready, so
to speak.
These social gatherings have nothing to do with bicycling. They're
indoors, and feature music, food, conversation and sometimes beer.
Everyone else dresses "normal." I can't imagine what the goggles
might protect against...
... except, perhaps, being conventional. She also wears things like
black bow ties, Converse sneakers that lace up to the knee, and other
clothes I find baffling.
Anyway, wearing goggles on a bike might be considered very cool, if
you're part of the right crowd.
- Frank Krygowski
Jay Beattie
>
> - Show quoted text -
The last time I crashed and glasses were a factor, I would have been
better off if they had flown from my face rather than being driven in
to my upper cheek/orbit all the way to the bone. They were a
frameless model and made a nice lunate incision. Nothing like
spending the afternoon at a plastic surgery clinic.
I wear (wore) glasses and goggles all the time skiing, and it is
miserable because they fog terribly even with anti-fog, and you end up
trying to de-fog two (four) lenses, and they always got compressed in
to my face even with glasses-specific goggles. I now ski with
contacts -- daily wear. As for needing goggles on a bike, I don't live
in a place with nasty cold winters and cannot comment on the need, but
with ordinary cycling in weather above 18F, I've never needed them. --
Jay Beattie.
Peter Cole
I remember one frigid day standing in the lift line picking shards of
broken goggle out of my forehead -- ahh, those were the days. You would
think ski goggles shatterproof, not all of them as it turned out.
I used to ski with contacts, too. The damn things would always dry up
and blow/blink off at inopportune times. Expensive, in the days before
daily wears.
When I had a convertible, I wore a leather flying helmet and aviator's
goggles. People assumed I was trying to be colorful (as if being 6'10"
in a Fiat 850 required embellishment), but with contacts and shoulder
length hair, it was purely a necessity. Nothing like a tiny spec of road
grit reducing you to agony and blindness at 80 mph (or having to cut the
tangles from your hair after long rides).
I suppose the benefit of glasses protecting the eyes from foreign
objects is somewhat reduced by the possibility of the glasses becoming
the foreign object themselves, but I still think the odds favor the
former. This was proven to my satisfaction the one time I attempted to
mountain bike, having forgotten my glasses, and scratched (painfully) my
cornea on a drooping fir branch not long into the ride. Despite many
crashes, I have yet to break glasses with my face or my face with
glasses. I did manage to break the temple piece twice (on a particularly
fragile pair of hideously expensive Adidas) just removing my jersey
roughly. I wear cheapo Chinese now. They have the podium style points of
disposable lab glasses, but I have learned to care less about such
things, particularly after admiring the Oakley knockoffs the carnival
ride operators wear. Nothing says fashion and fitness better than sports
shades, tattoos, wife beaters and bad teeth.
Andre Jute
>
> Nothing says fashion and fitness better than sports
> shades, tattoos, wife beaters and bad teeth.
You left out the beer belly.
As you say, only the poor need to wear someone else's idea of
'fashion'. Cyclists are such impressionables (bless them on behalf of
my erstwhile advertising comrades) that have become a communal example
of expensive bad taste.
Andre Jute
Charisma is the art of infuriating inadequates by merely existing
elegantly
Andre Jute
> When I had a convertible,
.....
> in a Fiat 850
You too had one of Bertone's little spiders? Oh, Colesy, you've gone
up a mile in my estimation. You're a man of discrimination. That was a
wonderful little car!
Andre Jute
Reformed petrol head
Car-free since 1992
Greener than thou!
Peter Cole
That was a "Spyder". I bought one new when I worked at a Fiat dealer
(run by 2 Italian brothers who raced them). It got me through college
(barely), no match for the New England climate (unlike the Volvo Amazon
I had right after). I think it was made from old tomato tins. Still,
nothing quite like driving a 1500 lb car whose COG was around mid-shin.
Like most rear engined cars it did really want to drive backwards,
though. Sometimes the sight of me entering or exiting would draw a small
crowd, like a circus car with one very large clown. My dad drove Healeys
and MGs, the garage specialized in dropping small V-8's in them. No way
I could fit in one, though I did drive a Sunbeam Tiger, which was just nuts.
andre...@aol.com
When I was a kid, my mom had a fiat 600. Size of a spider but with 4
seats and shaped more like a VW bug but about a third the size. She
would pack 4 people in that car and we'd go on vacation. It was the
coolest little car.
Peter Cole
Yeah I drove the Spanish version of one of those in Majorca with 4
adults -- very intimate.
Victor Kan
...
> Well, about goggles: A super-fashionable young girl of my
> acquaintance occasionally shows up at social gatherings wearing a pair
> of goggles. Not over her eyes, but up on her head - at the ready, so
> to speak.
Maybe she's a big fan of anime, e.g. Naruto or Miyazaki's Nausicaa.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4975/naruto1541ff.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2449/nausicaaicontmgicons.gif
Andre Jute
Heh-heh. Between the wars there was a British class of coupe and
possibly sedans too called "four seat sociable"... -- AJ
thirty-six
>
> Goggles were standard on dusty, rainy, and sunny Tour de France roads:
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Bottecchia1.jpg.html?...
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/JB.JPG.html
Wow, drillium saddle ^
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Fontan29.JPG.html?g2_...
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Chocolat.JPG.html?g2_...
>
> Not the TDF, but a good view of three pairs of goggles:
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Morand_001.jpg.html
>
> Sometimes two pairs of goggles were neeeded:
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1927_Armand_Blanchonn...
>
Cor, sloping fork crown in 1926 ^, I never did.
thirty-six
That's why you should use a neck cord.
Frank Krygowski
You may be right! That's the most logical explanation I've heard.
- Frank Krygowski
Jay
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cost. I see the foam stuff on my goggles is wearing through after one year
of use. Not sure if that matters. But the anti-fog coating can easily be
damaged by improper cleaning. Sounds like a microfiber cloth would be the
best.
J.
mike.a...@gmail.com
> Yep, not Google, but Goggles. I was thinking about all the wind that
> whips around my glasses while riding, the tearing the dry eyes, etc.
>
> Besides I was also thinking of the bouncing and potential for
> 'dislodgement from the standard riding position' (crash) that can send
> prescription glasses flying in another direction that the rider.
>
> So, adding some Goggles seemed like a decent thing to investigate, and
> then it came to mind a prescription lenses might be available (I see
> sports figures with them...).
>
> Anyone want to address riding your bike with either plain goggles and/
> or prescription lenses in same?
>
> berk
Icebike.org recommend labraroty googles or safety googles for winter.
Ski googles if you have them already. And you could try a snorkeling
or scuba mask too for a real tight seal.