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datakoll
SMS
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> Its Thursday !
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> http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/bicycles-built-for-you/?hpw
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There's more than a five year wait for a Vanilla bicycle. You can't even
place an order anymore. Such is the demand for steel bicycles!
Jay Beattie
> On 01/04/10 9:10 AM, datakoll wrote:
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> There's more than a five year wait for a Vanilla bicycle. You can't even
> place an order anymore. Such is the demand for steel bicycles!
Such a demand for art. I really don't know why someone would pay an
arm and a leg for a boat anchor heavy mixte with metal fenders and a
standard drive train. For a Portland work bike, I would rather have
an old aluminum mtb frame with a Nexus hub and disks.
Sascha has created a hell of a niche for himself, and maybe I should
have bought one of his frames when he was a nobody selling out of Bike
Central. I passed on that because I didn't trust a newby with a torch
-- I've seen a lot of broken joints caused by overheating and poor
alignment. Plus, I'd had my fill of pretty (heavy) steel frames.
Sascha has proven to be a reliable builder, and his bikes are about as
pretty as they get. While I still appreciate bicycles as art, I
wouldn't buy a Vanilla exactly because it is art -- expensive art. It
would be like owning a classic car that was beautiful but functionally
no better (or perhaps even worse) than the family Subaru. -- Jay
Beattie.
Andre Jute
> On Apr 1, 9:38 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
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> > On 01/04/10 9:10 AM, datakoll wrote:
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> > > Its Thursday !
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> > >http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/bicycles-built-for-you/...
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> > There's more than a five year wait for a Vanilla bicycle. You can't even
> > place an order anymore. Such is the demand for steel bicycles!
>
> Such a demand for art. I really don't know why someone would pay an
> arm and a leg for a boat anchor heavy mixte with metal fenders and a
> standard drive train.
And, unless those wheels are built on 36 inch or bigger rims, that's a
bike for a hobbit, unless it is a work of "art" deliberately created
not to be ridden.
BTW, I don't lust for a Vanilla bike; to me the one shown really
doesn't seem much of a work of art (which I define as containing
something original). I already own a genuine work or art in my
Kranich, which is a 1935 Locomotief Crossframe de Luxe Unisex made
with modern materials and dimensions very definitely for modern use. A
bike that demands that you contort yourself to the "artist's vision",
as the Vanilla bike seems to do, is an abomination.
However, I take a different view of "art" to most Americans, who seem
content to believe that endless lazy variations on a Ford Model B
coupe is "art". It isn't, of course; at best it is a display of
craftsmanship.
There's a very big difference between Grant at Rivendell continuing to
make bikes of his own original design, and the clown in Colorado who
merely bought the Rene Herse name. Sacha White in that perspective is
a bicycle hotrodder. Where is his original, non-derivative work? That
is what posterity, a cruel disposer of mere fashion, no matter how
expensive in its time, will want to judge.
Andre Jute
Visit Andre's Gazelle Toulouse at
http://www.audio-talk.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20Bauhaus.html
landotter
> On 01/04/10 9:10 AM, datakoll wrote:
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> There's more than a five year wait for a Vanilla bicycle. You can't even
> place an order anymore. Such is the demand for steel bicycles!
http://www.walmart.com/ip/26-Men-s-Roadmaster-Mountain-Sport-All-Terrain-Bike/13398147
Comes with steel rims. None of that disposable alloy crap that the
Vanilla bikes have to use because of the conspiracies and helicopters.
landotter
> On Apr 1, 9:38 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
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> > On 01/04/10 9:10 AM, datakoll wrote:
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> > > Its Thursday !
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> > >http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/bicycles-built-for-you/...
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> > There's more than a five year wait for a Vanilla bicycle. You can't even
> > place an order anymore. Such is the demand for steel bicycles!
>
> Such a demand for art. I really don't know why someone would pay an
> arm and a leg for a boat anchor heavy mixte with metal fenders and a
> standard drive train. For a Portland work bike, I would rather have
> an old aluminum mtb frame with a Nexus hub and disks.
$1000 gets ya an aluminum bike with an Alfine.
http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebikes/street/commuter/10_commuter4.html
http://www.konaworld.com/bike.cfm?content=drfine
$400 gets you a Kona World bike or Jamis Commuter one with a solid 3
speed hub. I've ridden both of those. Super nice city bikes that you
can lock up outside the safeway without crapping your pants by the
time you find the quinoa and pork chops.
Tom Sherman °_°
with you: <http://www.dahon.com/bikes/2010/curve-d3>.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
landotter
I bet it doesn't come with a fez.
Tom Sherman °_°
Akbar or Jeff?
datakoll
eyahahayeyhahah like Barbie Dolls ?
datakoll
this 'odd arty real antiquo collectible youknoe non WalMart' stuff is
worth either intrinsically or down at the fish market in dinero
effectivo.
After I was 'given' muh Cheap Asian Import to care for and cherish,
various bystanders - real cyclists of standing - moved to impress the
fact that I was riding a 'life time cycle' like my 544 (why I got the
bike ITFP)
12 years later I find my $50 CAI selling for $3500 flipping bucks or
$4000 given inflation. Sheldon's intent ?
OTOH muh 544 isn't with DM lessen I stuff a BOP or GFI 350 into it
with Mustang trans und discs, flaming fenders, 500 watts of the Beach
Boys Greatest...then it's worth 25-30k. Lesser designs sell for 50X
more.
Moral ? people are crazy impulsive. What drives a man to collect
peanut brittle ?