Latest trend - double top tube!
bfd
diminished. So, you ask what is the latest trend? How about DOUBLE TOP
TUBES!
I'm not talking about a 64 or 68cm frame that could probably use the
second tube for added stengthening and stiffness.
No, the following is a double top tube on a 56cm frameset:
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...comparison.jpg
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...e-toptubes.jpg
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...rnes-front.jpg
Get with it, you know you all want one....
Art
Nice broken links. By the way, 650b is not 29".
Tom Sherman °_°
Did Google Groups [1] mess up the URLs?
[1] Gurgle Gropes for Gene.
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Jeff Liebermann
wrote:
This might help:
<http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7&gallery=66>
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Jobst Brandt
>>> OK, it appears the demand for 650b wheels or "29er" bikes have
>>> diminished. So, you ask what is the latest trend? How about
>>> DOUBLE TOP TUBES!
>>> I'm not talking about a 64 or 68cm frame that could probably use the
>>> second tube for added stengthening and stiffness.
>>> No, the following is a double top tube on a 56cm frameset:
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...comparison.jpg
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...e-toptubes.jpg
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...rnes-front.jpg
>> Nice broken links. By the way, 650b is not 29".
> This might help:
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7&gallery=66
Thanks!
Jobst Brandt
cl...@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
>On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 15:18:10 -0700 (PDT), Art <unforg...@juno.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sep 2, 2:21 pm, bfd <bfd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> OK, it appears the demand for 650b wheels or "29er" bikes have
>>> diminished. So, you ask what is the latest trend? How about DOUBLE TOP
>>> TUBES!
>>>
>>> I'm not talking about a 64 or 68cm frame that could probably use the
>>> second tube for added stengthening and stiffness.
>>>
>>> No, the following is a double top tube on a 56cm frameset:
>>>
>>> http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...comparison.jpg
>>>
>>> http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...e-toptubes.jpg
>>>
>>> http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...rnes-front.jpg
>>>
>>> Get with it, you know you all want one....
>>
>>Nice broken links. By the way, 650b is not 29".
>
>This might help:
><http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7&gallery=66>
Looks like the old "tank" my brother used to ride in the sixties -
an old CCM "Cleveland" from the forties. Weighed a ton.
bfd
> On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:25:43 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Sep 2, 2:21 pm, bfd <bfd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> OK, it appears the demand for 650b wheels or "29er" bikes have
> >>> diminished. So, you ask what is the latest trend? How about DOUBLE TOP
> >>> TUBES!
>
> >>> I'm not talking about a 64 or 68cm frame that could probably use the
> >>> second tube for added stengthening and stiffness.
>
> >>> No, the following is a double top tube on a 56cm frameset:
>
> >>>http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...comparison.jpg
>
> >>>http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...e-toptubes.jpg
>
> >>>http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/i...rnes-front.jpg
>
> >>> Get with it, you know you all want one....
>
> >>Nice broken links. By the way, 650b is not 29".
>
> >This might help:
> ><http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7&gallery=66>
>
> Looks like the old "tank" my brother used to ride in the sixties -
> an old CCM "Cleveland" from the forties. Weighed a ton.
According to the seller, the double top tube bike weighs *only* 8 oz
more than the single top tube version. That's basically 3/4 to 1 full
water bottle...Good Luck!
bfd
link. Good thing someone else posted the correct link. Good Luck!
Dieter Britz
All of the above links get the message:
Page or Link Not Found
Ar well. But you hit the nail on the head, they have to think
of something new to sell more bikes. People seem to be attracted to
new designs. As e.g. these new Nazi helmets. They were tested and
found inadequate - but within a few months, most cyclists here in
my city are wearing them (those that do wear helmets).
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bfd
this one:
<http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7&gallery=66>
Helmets?! Yow, don't go there!!!
Actually, I wonder how many people are really paying $275-280 for the
latest fashion - Catlike Whisper Plus (can't forget the Plus!):
<http://www.competitivecyclist.com/road-bikes/product-apparel/2010-
catlike-whisper-plus-helmet-7857.10.1.html>
Good Luck!
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Didn't say the new one was heavy - but that darned old Cleveland sure
was!!!
Chalo
>
> According to the seller, the double top tube bike weighs *only* 8 oz
> more than the single top tube version. That's basically 3/4 to 1 full
> water bottle...Good Luck!
That's a single cup of water, by the way. Assuming 22 oz. per full
water bottle, well... you do the math. One fl. oz. of water is darned
close to one oz. dry measure-- actually a little bit more if memory
serves me.
Chalo
bfd
8oz as 227 GRAMS!!! AHHHH, you expect them to increase the weight of
their bikes by what 1/4 lb???!!!! ABSURD!!!!
Dan O
But it's 1/4 lb that's easily jettisoned if it turns out too much to
carry ;-)
Tad McClellan
I tend to jettison my water *after* my body has processed it.
:-)
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pm
The double top tube was the official confirmation of Grant Petersen
going off the deep end IMO. Sure, large and/or heavily loaded frames
need more stiffening. Sane people accomplish that by increasing the
tubing diameter rather than adhering slavishly to a lugged and spindly
(now with extra spindles!) aesthetic.
-pm
Art
Also, how are they going to keep pushing the bullshit "laterally stiff
but vertically compliant" mantra if they keep adding in-plane members?
bfd
Actually, in fairness to Grant/Rivendell, that's not really their
slogan. Instead, one the following, to name a few, may be a better
fit:
"steel is real"
"we love lugs"
"raise da stem"
"650b - like riding on fast marshmellows"
Actually, here's an official one which I believe is from a bumper
sticker or t-shirt:
"Wear wool, sit on leather, ride lugged steel" (which sounds kind of
lame, but that is their taste, go figure)
and I'm sure there are tons more....Good Luck!
Postman Delivers
>>> >This might help:
>>> ><http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7&gallery=66>
>>>
>>> Looks like the old "tank" my brother used to ride in the sixties -
>>> an old CCM "Cleveland" from the forties. Weighed a ton.
>>
>>According to the seller, the double top tube bike weighs *only* 8 oz
>>more than the single top tube version. That's basically 3/4 to 1 full
>>water bottle...Good Luck!
> Didn't say the new one was heavy - but that darned old Cleveland sure
> was!!!
* * *
clare,
Maybe this double top tube frame could support a 300 pounder that desires
to lose a bit of weight, and an addition water bottle (8oz as 227
GRAMS!!!) would not be noticed...
Maybe the old Cleveland would not be the anchor for that weight rider
either...
JR the postman