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datakoll  
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:30:07 -0700 (PDT)
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?

On Monday, September 24, 2012 7:30:07 AM UTC-4, datakoll wrote:

word is of an oversupply

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From: Dan O <danover...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:36:15 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?

Two things:

Yesterday I took the chain off of my commuting bike, pinched and dabbed most egregious gunk off of chainring teeth.  Pinched gunk off of jockey wheel teeth, brushed cassette, and fitted clean chain.  Lubed with Dumonde Tech, worked in a bit and lightly wiped outside.  It was working fine before with I dont' know how many hundred miles since last clean chain, but now this morning it rides so smooth and quiet and shifts like putting whipped butter on warm toast.

Other thing:

(snuck this in here - stop reading now if you're dainty, elegant, or easily grossed out)

Last week I came down with a cold (or some URTI) - coughing, congestion.  Lots and lots of sticky snot.  This morning I rode out and cleared one good blast from each nostril after ~1/2 mile.  Another blast a bit later was still kind of sticky, and left a smear on my glove that even *I* would have to say, "Eww" ('s okay, though - wiped it off on my lower leg.)

After that, though, the flow loosened up and turned wet and ~clear.  By the time I got to work my sinuses are uncongested and feeling pretty good.  I have theorized that the bike riding and continuous snot production helps flush out infection.


 
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2012 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
On Sep 24, 10:36 am, Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Two things:

> Yesterday I took the chain off of my commuting bike, pinched and dabbed most egregious gunk off of chainring teeth.  Pinched gunk off of jockey wheel teeth, brushed cassette, and fitted clean chain.  Lubed with Dumonde Tech, worked in a bit and lightly wiped outside.  It was working fine before with I dont' know how many hundred miles since last clean chain, but now this morning it rides so smooth and quiet and shifts like putting whipped butter on warm toast.

> Other thing:

> (snuck this in here - stop reading now if you're dainty, elegant, or easily grossed out)

> Last week I came down with a cold (or some URTI) - coughing, congestion.  Lots and lots of sticky snot.  This morning I rode out and cleared one good blast from each nostril after ~1/2 mile.  Another blast a bit later was still kind of sticky, and left a smear on my glove that even *I* would have to say, "Eww" ('s okay, though - wiped it off on my lower leg.)

> After that, though, the flow loosened up and turned wet and ~clear.  By the time I got to work my sinuses are uncongested and feeling pretty good.  I have theorized that the bike riding and continuous snot production helps flush out infection.

Oooooh...yuk!  That's disgusting. But at least you didn't use anything
truly uncivil - like the word "crap."
DR

 
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:29:54 -0500
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
On 9/24/2012 2:10 PM, DirtRoadie wrote:

I think it was Landotter who brought us the term
'craptastic' meaning something minimally functional but
still adequate with downscale aesthetic between free and
cheap. 'Crap' will never be the same.

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 More options Sep 24 2012, 5:51 pm
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From: James <james.e.stew...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 07:51:52 +1000
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2012 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
On 25/09/12 02:36, Dan O wrote:

> Two things:

> Yesterday I took the chain off of my commuting bike, pinched and
> dabbed most egregious gunk off of chainring teeth.  Pinched gunk off
> of jockey wheel teeth, brushed cassette, and fitted clean chain.
> Lubed with Dumonde Tech, worked in a bit and lightly wiped outside.
> It was working fine before with I dont' know how many hundred miles
> since last clean chain, but now this morning it rides so smooth and
> quiet and shifts like putting whipped butter on warm toast.

I always like the feel of riding with a new or at least well cleaned and
lubed chain (and gear parts).

Yep.  I agree.  In fact any solid exercise can do similar.  Splitting
firewood, for example.

The advantage of riding while snotting, is that you leave the snot well
behind ;-)

Snotting on the squash court is frowned upon, so I'm told.

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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:33:59 +1000
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
On 25/09/12 05:10, DirtRoadie wrote:

Who would do a thing like that?

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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:08:13 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
ARE YAWL IN A SMOKE INVERSION ?

use a mask with breather flap...

the crap running out urnose is prob dead cells not mucus per se


 
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:10:21 -0700 (PDT)
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>   Open every day since 1 April, 1971

scotch electrical tape !

 
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 More options Sep 24 2012, 9:25 pm
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From: Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:25:06 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2012 9:25 pm
Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:36:15 -0700 (PDT), Dan O <danover...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Last week I came down with a cold (or some URTI) - coughing, congestion.  Lots and lots of sticky snot.  This morning I rode out and cleared one good blast from each nostril after ~1/2 mile.  Another blast a bit later was still kind of sticky, and left a smear on my glove that even *I* would have to say, "Eww" ('s okay, though - wiped it off on my lower leg.)

>After that, though, the flow loosened up and turned wet and ~clear.  By the time I got to work my sinuses are uncongested and feeling pretty good.  I have theorized that the bike riding and continuous snot production helps flush out infection.

I beg to differ.  The congestion and mucus production were probably
caused by a histamine reaction.  When you catch a cold, the body
reacts by producing histamine, which causes you mucus membranes to
produce mucus, swelling, dilated capillaries, fever, and a general
rotten feeling.  There's a theory that exercise produces MORE
histamine rather than reducing histamine production.
<http://www.livestrong.com/article/547592-does-your-body-produce-hista...>
Incidentally, the infection is not in your sinus cavities.  It's all
over your body.  It's the affected mucus membranes that are located in
the sinus cavities.

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 More options Sep 25 2012, 2:15 pm
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From: Dan O <danover...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:15:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 25 2012 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?

I always thought the mucous was carrying infectious stuff away (the mucosal discharge of an infected host is highly infectious, isn't it?)

But Mayoclinic web site says it's to block the infection getting into the lungs.  Hmm...

Anyway whatever causes it, all that stuff (inflammation, fever, vasodilation - that's all the immune system infrastructure and support team, right? - laying out the battleground for the troops... who get there and say, "Whoa, our phasers aren't fazing these invaders!  Tell the boys in the back room to figure some new weapon that we can use on them."  Meanwhile, the infrastructure team is making things hostile for the invaders, keeping the roads open to the front, and maybe cleaning up some of the damage (that's what I figured the thick yellow mucous is).

>  There's a theory that exercise produces MORE

> histamine rather than reducing histamine production.

> <http://www.livestrong.com/article/547592-does-your-body-produce-hista...>

Interesting page.

... "causes athletes to faint" - oh my!  Or, could just keep blood pressure up with regular cigarette smoking :-)

> Incidentally, the infection is not in your sinus cavities.  It's all

> over your body.  It's the affected mucus membranes that are located in

> the sinus cavities.

... in the upper respiratory tract - hence URTI.

Wow:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/276962-exercise-runny-nose/

So it's just me that (usually) produces snot all the time while riding?  Does Lance "Reduce the intensity... " and "carry extra tissues" when his nose runs (*does* his nose run)?


 
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From: Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 12:44:04 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 25 2012 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:15:15 -0700 (PDT), Dan O <danover...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> <http://www.livestrong.com/article/547592-does-your-body-produce-hista...>
>Interesting page.
>... "causes athletes to faint" - oh my!  Or, could just keep blood pressure
>up with regular cigarette smoking :-)

If you want a real thrill, try taking beta blockers pills before a
stenuous ride.  Beta blockers put an upper limit on the heart rate.
When the heart can't pump enough blood, it reduces blood flow to the
extremities.  In my case, it's my hands, which loose some of their
strength.  I found this out the hard way after a ride, where I had
trouble removing my hands from the handlebar grips.  It was as if they
had fallen asleep.  

If I need to raise my blood pressure, I just think of former
ladyfriends or employers.  Getting angry is a natural performance
booster.

>Wow:
>http://www.livestrong.com/article/276962-exercise-runny-nose/
>So it's just me that (usually) produces snot all the time while riding?
>Does Lance "Reduce the intensity... " and "carry extra tissues" when
>his nose runs (*does* his nose run)?

If your nose runs, and your feet smell, you're built upside down.

I have the same problem.  When I exercise heavily, my nose runs.  I
have to carry some tissue paper on rides.  At first, I thought is was
some allergy, but after talking to my body mechanic, I found that this
is a common problem.  

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 More options Sep 25 2012, 4:21 pm
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:21:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 25 2012 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
On Sep 24, 5:36 pm, Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Two things:

> Yesterday I took the chain off of my commuting bike, pinched and dabbed most egregious gunk off of chainring teeth.  Pinched gunk off of jockey wheel teeth, brushed cassette, and fitted clean chain.  Lubed with Dumonde Tech, worked in a bit and lightly wiped outside.  It was working fine before with I dont' know how many hundred miles since last clean chain, but now this morning it rides so smooth and quiet and shifts like putting whipped butter on warm toast.

> Other thing:

> (snuck this in here - stop reading now if you're dainty, elegant, or easily grossed out)

> Last week I came down with a cold (or some URTI) - coughing, congestion.

Yes, that's the word.  It's congested lymph caused by acidosis.  One
must rest and eat only non-acidifying foods.  Fruits (preferably
berries) and vegetables (mostly leaves).

> Lots and lots of sticky snot.  This morning I rode out and cleared one good blast from each nostril after ~1/2 mile.  Another blast a bit later was still kind of sticky, and left a smear on my glove that even *I* would have to say, "Eww" ('s okay, though - wiped it off on my lower leg.)

If it's watery it should disappear in 12 hours, if there are plugs or
thickening then a simple "infection" causes longer irritation as the
body tries to move congested lymph.  It's a warning to stop consuming
acidifying foods.

> After that, though, the flow loosened up and turned wet and ~clear.  By the time I got to work my sinuses are uncongested and feeling pretty good.  I have theorized that the bike riding and continuous snot production helps flush out infection.

I did too, I was wrong.  An "infection" is the same as a "disease".
It's a terminology created by the medical industry to put fear into
the common man.  Those who do not succumb to illness or medicalisation
are those who have no congestion yet such people are still subject to
the same contacts.  Freedom from congestion is achieved through eating
a diet of predominantly fruits and vegetables.  These are base-forming
foods unlike milk, cereal and meat.  Free up your lymph and be free of
disease.

 
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:05:33 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
viri blowout cell walls, moist running out thru the noise...where else would you sea it ?

 
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post cawsed by CHINESE WAX SPAM ATTACK

any other victims ?


 
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
On Sep 26, 3:48 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> post cawsed by CHINESE WAX SPAM ATTACK

> any other victims ?

i wouldn't touch Spam at anytime, I've had an experience when it has
seriously pulled me down, probably due to excessive added nitrates and
nitrites.

 
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 01:49:32 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
On Sep 26, 3:48 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> post cawsed by CHINESE WAX SPAM ATTACK

> any other victims ?

on eating only flesh, from Numbers 11  (KJV)

19 Ye shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days, neither ten
days, nor twenty days;

20 But even a whole month, until it come out at your nostrils, and it
be loathsome unto you: because that ye have despised the Lord which is
among you, and have wept before him, saying, Why came we forth out of
Egypt?

21 And Moses said, The people, among whom I am, are six hundred
thousand footmen; and thou hast said, I will give them flesh, that
they may eat a whole month.

22 Shall the flocks and the herds be slain for them, to suffice them?
or shall all the fish of the sea be gathered together for them, to
suffice them?

23 And the Lord said unto Moses, Is the Lord'S hand WAXED short? thou
shalt see now whether my word shall come to pass unto thee or not.

and after delivering the quails from the sea.

33 And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed,
the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord
smote the people with a very great plague.

if you read the preceding chapters there is reference to keeping camp
(with fire IIRC) while the clouds mask the sky and traveling under the
sun.  I feel this corresponds with good health.  In a health (and
scientific, probably not medical) understanding the heat of the sun
directly to bare skin encourages lymphatic flow with walking (even
more by skipping).


 
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:48:21 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?

On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:48:03 PM UTC-4, datakoll wrote:
> post cawsed by CHINESE WAX SPAM ATTACK

> any other victims ?

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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:32:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
On Sep 25, 2:25 am, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:36:15 -0700 (PDT), Dan O <danover...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> >Last week I came down with a cold (or some URTI) - coughing, congestion.  Lots and lots of sticky snot.  This morning I rode out and cleared one good blast from each nostril after ~1/2 mile.  Another blast a bit later was still kind of sticky, and left a smear on my glove that even *I* would have to say, "Eww" ('s okay, though - wiped it off on my lower leg.)

> >After that, though, the flow loosened up and turned wet and ~clear.  By the time I got to work my sinuses are uncongested and feeling pretty good.  I have theorized that the bike riding and continuous snot production helps flush out infection.

> I beg to differ.  The congestion and mucus production were probably
> caused by a histamine reaction.  When you catch a cold, the body
> reacts by producing histamine, which causes you mucus membranes to
> produce mucus, swelling, dilated capillaries, fever, and a general
> rotten feeling.  There's a theory that exercise produces MORE
> histamine rather than reducing histamine production.

Don't worry about it, just do some skipping (and fill yourself up on
fruit and veg) to help mobilise sticky lymph.

> <http://www.livestrong.com/article/547592-does-your-body-produce-hista...>
> Incidentally, the infection is not in your sinus cavities.  It's all
> over your body.

That's the lymphatic system.  it's the backing up of this (acidity and
thickening) which causes the swellings, soreness, stiffness and
stuffed sinuses.


 
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Subject: Re: CHAIN WAX ?
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