On Oct 2, 6:01 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
> any kind of weather.
> --
> Wes Groleau
> Expert, n.:
> Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.
What pedal are you using? I think for commuting, you can't beat a
pair of Shimano SPD. Even the cheap ones last a long time. Last
season, I rode through water above my bottom bracket, and when I
cracked open the old SPDs, the grease was still fresh.
<jbeat...@lindsayhart.com> wrote:
>On Oct 2, 6:01 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
>> any kind of weather.
>> --
>> Wes Groleau
>> Expert, n.:
>> Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.
>What pedal are you using? I think for commuting, you can't beat a
>pair of Shimano SPD. Even the cheap ones last a long time. Last
>season, I rode through water above my bottom bracket, and when I
>cracked open the old SPDs, the grease was still fresh.
>-- Jay Beattie.
I second that. Had the same experience. Checked and they needed no
work at all. Great stuff.
Wes Groleau wrote:
> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
> any kind of weather.
What make and model of pedal gave you that problem? I'm wondering if it's an anomaly.
I have one friend who had a pedal lock up on a ride many years ago. Sorry, I don't remember what brand. But when we opened it up, we found one bearing ball had split neatly in two, then jammed the works. I imagine that was the fault of the bearing manufacturer, one that could have afflicted almost any brand of similar quality, and probably a very rare occurrence.
<Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
>any kind of weather.
You don't say what type pedals you are presently using.
I have been using Shimano SPD pedals for a few years and have had
literally no problems with the two models I have used, the M520 and
M540. I do occasionally oil them though :-)
On Oct 2, 8:01 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
> any kind of weather.
> --
> Wes Groleau
Depends on what your requirements are. Anything cartridge bearing
should be fairly weather proof. I've got SPuDs that are nearly 15
years old, and though they have a little slop in the bushing, the
cartridge bearing is smooth. VO makes traditional pedals with carts.
That said, loose ball with marine grease will hold up to a lot,as will
fairly junky pedals if you drip motor oil into them every now and
again. Pedals don't care much what you lubricate them with as long as
you do.
> takum apart and grease replace bearings spring/fall
The word "plus" is apparently not on that page.
And searching the whole site for "plus steel" only turns up an Abus lock.
-- Wes Groleau
“But, Professor! I didn't plagiarize! I paid someone to
write the essay for me, and that person plagiarized!"
— from http://rateyourstudents.blogspot.com
> On Oct 2, 8:01 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
>> any kind of weather.
>> --
>> Wes Groleau
> Depends on what your requirements are. Anything cartridge bearing
> should be fairly weather proof. I've got SPuDs that are nearly 15
> years old, and though they have a little slop in the bushing, the
> cartridge bearing is smooth. VO makes traditional pedals with carts.
> That said, loose ball with marine grease will hold up to a lot,as will
> fairly junky pedals if you drip motor oil into them every now and
> again. Pedals don't care much what you lubricate them with as long as
> you do.
Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
so it's a bit irritating to have the replacement last less than one year. Maybe it's a fluke like someone suggested.
But it makes me want a warranty to claim when the next fluke strikes.
> Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
> so it's a bit irritating to have the replacement last less than one
> year. Maybe it's a fluke like someone suggested.
> But it makes me want a warranty to claim when the next fluke strikes.
Mechanic says none of them have warranties.
Perhaps my originals were sealed bearings. That's what I ended up buying.
-- Wes Groleau
"What progress we are making! In the Middle Ages, they would have
burnt me; nowadays they are content with burning my books.”
— Sigmund Freud, 1933
"He was never to know that even that was only an illusory progress,
that ten years later they would have burned his body as well.”
— Ernest Jones, 1953
> > On Oct 2, 8:01 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
> >> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
> >> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
> >> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
> >> any kind of weather.
> >> --
> >> Wes Groleau
> > Depends on what your requirements are. Anything cartridge bearing
> > should be fairly weather proof. I've got SPuDs that are nearly 15
> > years old, and though they have a little slop in the bushing, the
> > cartridge bearing is smooth. VO makes traditional pedals with carts.
> > That said, loose ball with marine grease will hold up to a lot,as will
> > fairly junky pedals if you drip motor oil into them every now and
> > again. Pedals don't care much what you lubricate them with as long as
> > you do.
> Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
> so it's a bit irritating to have the replacement last less than one
> year. Maybe it's a fluke like someone suggested.
> But it makes me want a warranty to claim when the next fluke strikes.
Are these platforms or clipless or what . . . I was never clear on
what brand of pedal broke and what brand lasted 30 years.
> On Oct 3, 10:25 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>> On 10-03-2012 10:39, landotter wrote:
>>> On Oct 2, 8:01 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>>>> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>>>> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>>>> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>>>> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
>>>> any kind of weather.
>>>> --
>>>> Wes Groleau
>>> Depends on what your requirements are. Anything cartridge bearing
>>> should be fairly weather proof. I've got SPuDs that are nearly 15
>>> years old, and though they have a little slop in the bushing, the
>>> cartridge bearing is smooth. VO makes traditional pedals with carts.
>>> That said, loose ball with marine grease will hold up to a lot,as will
>>> fairly junky pedals if you drip motor oil into them every now and
>>> again. Pedals don't care much what you lubricate them with as long as
>>> you do.
>> Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
>> so it's a bit irritating to have the replacement last less than one
>> year. Maybe it's a fluke like someone suggested.
>> But it makes me want a warranty to claim when the next fluke strikes.
> Are these platforms or clipless or what . . . I was never clear on
> what brand of pedal broke and what brand lasted 30 years.
> -- Jay Beattie.
At 30 years, it wasn't a cute little Lyotard unless it spent a lot of that time parked.
when I commuted, the pedals had miles. Used Bear Traps then abt $12 pair. Each pair, beginning on the right, cracked internally around the bearing race at 2000 miles. Multiple cracks, 'Like' impressive cracking.
I have a tool rigged, socket inside socket for lubing the Traps but the housing ? The beaings look round but maybe not.
The race is ferrous but housing is aluminum.
Question was and is...I stocked Traps...how many more effective miles from a pedal costing $50 more or how to $ffectively deter$ine the potential ?
Factor going my way here was pedals trend toward 'racers' pedals...faster lower and SMALLER...I have large feet lika duck so....
Shimano has position. 'Like' Old Volvo, reliability makes or breaks the Rep
maybe pedals for extreme endurance MTB organized competition have Rep ?
> On 10-03-2012 10:39, landotter wrote:
>> On Oct 2, 8:01 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>>> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
>>> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
>>> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
>>> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
>>> any kind of weather.
>>> --
>>> Wes Groleau
>> Depends on what your requirements are. Anything cartridge bearing
>> should be fairly weather proof. I've got SPuDs that are nearly 15
>> years old, and though they have a little slop in the bushing, the
>> cartridge bearing is smooth. VO makes traditional pedals with carts.
>> That said, loose ball with marine grease will hold up to a lot,as will
>> fairly junky pedals if you drip motor oil into them every now and
>> again. Pedals don't care much what you lubricate them with as long as
>> you do.
> Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
> so it's a bit irritating to have the replacement last less than one
> year. Maybe it's a fluke like someone suggested.
> But it makes me want a warranty to claim when the next fluke strikes.
Here an item has to be warranted over a period equal to the reasonable expected lifetime of that item no matter what the manufacturer says (Apple's one year warranty period is ridiculous ie). It is a little bit fuzzy I know but eventually you get it warranted. After three years my garagedoor opener failed, one year after the two year warranty period of the manufacturer. After what legal assistance I got it replaced for free because a garagedoor opener should last more than two years.
A lifetime of one year for pedals is too short. Failing after 30 years; you were lucky.
> > On 10-03-2012 10:39, landotter wrote:
> >> On Oct 2, 8:01 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >>> Anyone recommend pedals with a fifteen year warranty?
> >>> My left bearing is locked up and it's less than two years old.
> >>> The one it replaced was thirty years old.
> >>> Needs to be able to do fifty or more miles per week year-round,
> >>> any kind of weather.
> >>> --
> >>> Wes Groleau
> >> Depends on what your requirements are. Anything cartridge bearing
> >> should be fairly weather proof. I've got SPuDs that are nearly 15
> >> years old, and though they have a little slop in the bushing, the
> >> cartridge bearing is smooth. VO makes traditional pedals with carts.
> >> That said, loose ball with marine grease will hold up to a lot,as will
> >> fairly junky pedals if you drip motor oil into them every now and
> >> again. Pedals don't care much what you lubricate them with as long as
> >> you do.
> > Well, I never lubricated the original, and it lasted thirty years,
> > so it's a bit irritating to have the replacement last less than one
> > year. Maybe it's a fluke like someone suggested.
> > But it makes me want a warranty to claim when the next fluke strikes.
> Here an item has to be warranted over a period equal to the reasonable
> expected lifetime of that item no matter what the manufacturer says
> (Apple's one year warranty period is ridiculous ie). It is a little bit
> fuzzy I know but eventually you get it warranted. After three years my
> garagedoor opener failed, one year after the two year warranty period of
> the manufacturer. After what legal assistance I got it replaced for free
> because a garagedoor opener should last more than two years.
> A lifetime of one year for pedals is too short. Failing after 30 years;
> you were lucky.
> Lou
Really it all depends on how they were touted and voicing of customer
expectation. If neither can be brought to testimony then it's down to
price and general expectations One may buy crap pedals for a fiver
and in all honesty one wouldn't want them to last a full year, but if
one if paying £50 then there is a common assumed expectation that they
will last in excess of five years when installed and serviced
correctly and not subjected to treatment which is obviously outside
the design or sales intention. I bought racing pedals because my
intentions included racing but I might buy them in any case because
they can take repeated clouting without falling to pieces. Anything
which is touted as lightweight though is asking for low durability.
My recommendation for pedals is buy cheap and treat them as disposable
(keep a pair spare) or pay for something tough.
AHHH INTERNATIONAL REPARTEE....Bien. Off course its the French but maybe the Germans...capital investment somewhat dilute on the Netherlands..
The Dutch recently had their coffee houses examined in the press...otherwise I'd not been conscious of this...from a referedum on somehting drug related...seems one may stop oin at the coffe house after work...pedaling a pump or standing around with a finger in the dike...and have a cup and some black Afghani hashish.
Shall we comapre thee to a day in Madison WI ? Nada., I'm told that theese affairs take place 10-20- miles out ....
we see a lotta more than WILD UNRESONABLE claims on mileages..I doahno why....my reality tends more is this true or false or is this truer or mfalser and why or not why.
If you wanna lie thru your teeth abt your pedals then we'll ignore it without downgrading your report to gruntings from a monkey.
an interesting deal with the ten speed rat traps...the better ones could fail but were designed to continue bringing you home following failure.
On Friday, October 5, 2012 10:52:44 PM UTC-4, Wes Groleau wrote:
> On 10-05-2012 19:51, datakoll wrote:
> > If you wanna lie thru your teeth abt your pedals
> If this means you think I'm lying, you're entitled to your opinion.
> --
> Wes Groleau
> There ain't no right wing,
> there ain't no left wing.
> There's only you and me and we just disagree.
> (apologies to Jim Krueger)
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no Les, not at all...its only RBT humor. We have noooooo idea why you wrote the pedals did X or Y.
We read of chains running 10,000 miles....tires ditto....an Emeritus continues claiming eternal spoke life....
with foundation for example..."my chains last 7000 miles because I use brake fluid chain lube." This is possible but unlikely in nirmalexperience.
posters land here with the explicit purpose of telling us their chain ran 10000 miles using mineral oil. Maybe it did. maybe their crazy, goofing on us or using an incommunicable language form.
Once in a while a professional level writer contributes goofing on us....AAA !
If you write your chain lasts 30 years then its off our charts...
But if you write the chain on your bicycle is 30 years old then we understand.
You do see we responded outside that statement ?
Accept my apologies for relating your language skills to those of a monkey.
