Old photos
carl...@comcast.net
collection of almost 500 old bicycle photos:
http://flickr.com/groups/611017@N23/pool/
At random, here's a nice photo for people who think that right-side
and left-side mean DS and NDS:
http://flickr.com/photos/25451735@N03/2400982182/sizes/l/in/pool-611017@N23/
Not that it matters, but the photo isn't reversed. Every spoon brake
handle that I've seen so far is on the right.
Thanks again, Frank.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
In another thread, posters are pondering how to add and subtract 7
pounds to a bicycle without the rider noticing.
This fellow's bicycle might allow some blind testing:
http://flickr.com/photos/twotone666/2588749650/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Notice the huge front sprocket on the right-hand single-speed with the
toe-clips:
http://flickr.com/photos/radlmax/2551254848/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
It's a 72-tooth front x ~24 rear, about a 53x17, perfect for
spoon-brake touring on dirt roads.
That's a frame bag, not the guy's foot.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Shaft-drive, bare feet, front coasting-pegs, rear axle mounting-peg:
http://flickr.com/photos/74418119@N00/2345353459/sizes/l/in/pool-611017@N23/
Rear tire looks a bit low.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Early cyclocross involved removing one's shoes:
http://flickr.com/photos/74418119@N00/2345355407/sizes/l/in/pool-611017@N23/
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Early solid-tire dirt bike:
http://flickr.com/photos/74418119@N00/2346188180/sizes/l/in/pool-611017@N23/
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Nice version of the famous photo of Major Taylor on his chainless
Sager:
http://flickr.com/photos/ncjack/332891474/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
Page 638 has the details of the odd Sager pin roller shaft-drive:
http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/Outing/Volume_33/outXXXIII06/outXXXIII06zk.pdf
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Major Taylor on a traditional gear-tooth shaft drive:
http://flickr.com/photos/ncjack/332891725/in/pool-611017@N23
A collection of Major Taylor photos, showing him with the shaft and
chain drives:
http://flickr.com/photos/ncjack/sets/72157594437756025/
And here's Major Taylor on a weird bike with a front idler gear:
http://i23.tinypic.com/jqqhcx.jpg
It was probably supposed to increase transmission efficiency somehow,
but probably didn't.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
In the pre-WWII Tour de France, riders had to carry damaged parts to
prove that they could not have repaired them:
http://flickr.com/photos/bikerescue/2087139038/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
With flip-flop hubs that had gears on both sides, at least one rider
scarred himself for life:
"Well into the day's 433 kilometers [stage 14 TDF 1921 was 268 miles
long], Scieur's rear wheel failed with 11 broken spokes. Tour rules of
that time said that if the mechanical failure is real and no repair is
possible a rider may replace the broken item. When Scieur's wheel
broke there were no Tour monitors around to verify his problem. After
replacing the wheel he strapped the broken wheel to his back and
carried it for 300 kilometers to show the officials at the finish that
his need was real. Scars left on his back by the sprocket remained
with him for years."
--p. 61 "Story of the Tour de France"
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Top of the line solid-tire chain-drive racing tricycle, 1885:
http://flickr.com/photos/letterlust/2298198637/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Some people believe in flipping bikes upside-down for repairs:
http://flickr.com/photos/7786842@N02/2347439301/in/pool-611017@N23
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2285199716/in/pool-611017@N23
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2285199582/in/pool-611017@N23
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2284412019/in/pool-611017@N23
But stress-relief is more easily accomplished with the bike lying on
its side:
http://www.nostalgic.net/index.asp?S=arc/pre1920/1885+bicycle+club+photo%2Ejpg
I hope Jobst is off in the Alps, having a great time.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Wisconsin police harassing early critical mass riders:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2284411789/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
No, they're not climbing out of the saddle--that's how riders looked
with the old frames and seats:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2285198980/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
The left-hand bike is a Victor with a half-heart front suspension fork
and coasting pegs.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Earliest jackshaft for high speed that I've seen:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2255579571/in/pool-611017@N23
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Let's settle on a standard size for the front wheel:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2255567581/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
F. Landis before he abandoned his Mennonite roots:
http://flickr.com/photos/letterlust/2255467140/in/pool-611017@N23
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
Woland99
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:41:15 -0600, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> >This is Frank Krygowski's fault for sending me a link that led to this
> >collection of almost 500 old bicycle photos:
> >http://flickr.com/groups/611017@N23/pool/
>
> >At random, here's a nice photo for people who think that right-side
> >and left-side mean DS and NDS:
>
>
> >Not that it matters, but the photo isn't reversed. Every spoon brake
> >handle that I've seen so far is on the right.
>
> >Thanks again, Frank.
>
> >Cheers,
>
> >Carl Fogel
>
> Notice the huge front sprocket on the right-hand single-speed with the
> toe-clips:
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/radlmax/2551254848/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
>
> It's a 72-tooth front x ~24 rear, about a 53x17, perfect for
> spoon-brake touring on dirt roads.
>
> That's a frame bag, not the guy's foot.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
Size matters:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2228178333/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
Altho how on earth you would even start moving with that pizza
size chainring is a complete mystery to me. No hill's too fast!
Woland99
> This is Frank Krygowski's fault for sending me a link that led to this
> collection of almost 500 old bicycle photos:
> http://flickr.com/groups/611017@N23/pool/
>
> At random, here's a nice photo for people who think that right-side
> and left-side mean DS and NDS:
>
>
> Not that it matters, but the photo isn't reversed. Every spoon brake
> handle that I've seen so far is on the right.
>
> Thanks again, Frank.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
Thanks Carl - great collection. My fav pic so far:
http://flickr.com/photos/bikerescue/2328815267/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
carl...@comcast.net
Compact frames are still in the future:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2244597639/in/pool-611017@N23
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Two familiar disaster photos:
What did he hit?
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2228970928/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
Wheel and tire trouble:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2228971772/in/pool-611017@N23
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Big sprocket:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2228178333/in/pool-611017@N23
Probably just an ordinary 130-tooth, like Meiffret used:
http://imageevent.com/dernysportuk/stayerpictures?p=1056&n=1&m=-1&c=2&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=2
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Rare contemporary highwheeler dismount action-photo:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2204439409/in/pool-611017@N23
Much harder to learn to ride than modern safety bikes--and the
original riders had no modern safety bikes to learn how to ride on
before they tackled the monsters.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Some riders will do anything to reduce weight and wind drag:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2203902059/in/pool-611017@N23
I suspect anti-growth hormone, which was legal back then.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
carl...@comcast.net
For our heftier posters:
http://flickr.com/photos/radlmax/2174853236/in/pool-611017@N23
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
Bicycles exposed young boys to the horrors of the red light districts.
Here's a typical hardened young hooligan:
http://flickr.com/photos/amphalon/2091807234/in/pool-611017@N23
The kind of vice to which bicycles exposed our youth:
http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2218725546/in/pool-611017@N23
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
>This is Frank Krygowski's fault for sending me a link that led to this
>collection of almost 500 old bicycle photos:
> http://flickr.com/groups/611017@N23/pool/
>
>At random, here's a nice photo for people who think that right-side
>and left-side mean DS and NDS:
>
>http://flickr.com/photos/25451735@N03/2400982182/sizes/l/in/pool-611017@N23/
>
>Not that it matters, but the photo isn't reversed. Every spoon brake
>handle that I've seen so far is on the right.
>
>Thanks again, Frank.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Carl Fogel
The light-weight craze began early:
http://flickr.com/photos/ylvas/289473356/in/pool-611017@N23
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
>This is Frank Krygowski's fault for sending me a link that led to this
>collection of almost 500 old bicycle photos:
> http://flickr.com/groups/611017@N23/pool/
>
>At random, here's a nice photo for people who think that right-side
>and left-side mean DS and NDS:
>
>http://flickr.com/photos/25451735@N03/2400982182/sizes/l/in/pool-611017@N23/
>
>Not that it matters, but the photo isn't reversed. Every spoon brake
>handle that I've seen so far is on the right.
>
>Thanks again, Frank.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Carl Fogel
The importance of proper fitting cannot be over-emphasized:
http://flickr.com/photos/9623863@N04/1986662889/in/pool-611017@N23
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
>This is Frank Krygowski's fault for sending me a link that led to this
>collection of almost 500 old bicycle photos:
> http://flickr.com/groups/611017@N23/pool/
>
>At random, here's a nice photo for people who think that right-side
>and left-side mean DS and NDS:
>
>http://flickr.com/photos/25451735@N03/2400982182/sizes/l/in/pool-611017@N23/
>
>Not that it matters, but the photo isn't reversed. Every spoon brake
>handle that I've seen so far is on the right.
>
>Thanks again, Frank.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Carl Fogel
Early thorncatcher for Frank Krygowski:
http://flickr.com/photos/radlmax/1474735749/in/pool-611017@N23
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
Twitchell
says...
>
>On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:41:15 -0600, carl...@comcast.net wrote:
>
>>This is Frank Krygowski's fault for sending me a link that led to this
>>collection of almost 500 old bicycle photos:
>> http://flickr.com/groups/611017@N23/pool/
>>
>>At random, here's a nice photo for people who think that right-side
>>and left-side mean DS and NDS:
>>
>>http://flickr.com/photos/25451735@N03/2400982182/sizes/l/in/pool-611017@N23/
>>
>>Not that it matters, but the photo isn't reversed. Every spoon brake
>>handle that I've seen so far is on the right.
>>
>>Thanks again, Frank.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Carl Fogel
>
>toe-clips:
>
>http://flickr.com/photos/radlmax/2551254848/sizes/o/in/pool-611017@N23/
>
>It's a 72-tooth front x ~24 rear, about a 53x17, perfect for
>spoon-brake touring on dirt roads.
>
>That's a frame bag, not the guy's foot.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Carl Fogel
...that frame bag is bigger and better than the traditional one I've got.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/FIXING-TRIANGLE-CYCLE-BICYCLE-FRAME/dp/B0013DT0EK
twitch
Twitchell
Woland99 says...
twitch
Twitchell
says...
appropriate.
twitch
r15...@aol.com
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:41:15 -0600, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> >This is Frank Krygowski's fault for sending me a link that led to this
> >collection of almost 500 old bicycle photos:
> >http://flickr.com/groups/611017@N23/pool/
>
> >At random, here's a nice photo for people who think that right-side
> >and left-side mean DS and NDS:
>
>
> >Not that it matters, but the photo isn't reversed. Every spoon brake
> >handle that I've seen so far is on the right.
>
> >Thanks again, Frank.
>
> >Cheers,
>
> >Carl Fogel
>
> Rare contemporary highwheeler dismount action-photo:
> http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2204439409/in/pool-611017@N23
>
> Much harder to learn to ride than modern safety bikes--and the
> original riders had no modern safety bikes to learn how to ride on
> before they tackled the monsters.
I've never ridden one of these. But it's clear that if he's trying to
dismount, he's going to have a hard time of it, and may well wreck.
Unless the bike is near stationary, the timing is way off for a
dismount, as we can see from the position of the pedals. My guess is
he's attempting to mount the bike in a somewhat flashy fashion,
without using the footpeg, similar to the way some fixed wheel riders
mount their rigs today.
carl...@comcast.net
<Twitchel...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Dear Twitch,
It's hard to make out the French, but I think that it's a support
truck of some kind, advertising Hungaria, which made cycling shoes..
But an ambulance isn't a bad guess for Meiffert. Read down to his
horrible 1952 crash:
http://www.63xc.com/ahands/meiffret.htm
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
James Thomson
http://imageevent.com/dernysportuk/stayerpictures?p=1056&n=1&m=-1&c=2&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=2
> It's hard to make out the French,
It says "CHAUSSURES (et) BALLONS DE SPORT" - i.e. sports shoes and balls.
http://footnostalgie.free.fr/images/hungaria03.jpg
http://www.hungaria-legende.com/index_EN.html
> but I think that it's a support truck of some kind, advertising
> Hungaria, which made cycling shoes..
James Thomson
Andy Heninger
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:41:15 -0600, carl...@comcast.net wrote:
>
>>This is Frank Krygowski's fault for sending me a link that led to this
>>collection of almost 500 old bicycle photos:
>> http://flickr.com/groups/611017@N23/pool/
>>
>>At random, here's a nice photo for people who think that right-side
>>and left-side mean DS and NDS:
>>
>>http://flickr.com/photos/25451735@N03/2400982182/sizes/l/in/pool-611017@N23/
>>
>>Not that it matters, but the photo isn't reversed. Every spoon brake
>>handle that I've seen so far is on the right.
>>
>>Thanks again, Frank.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Carl Fogel
>
> Rare contemporary highwheeler dismount action-photo:
> http://flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/2204439409/in/pool-611017@N23
Nice photo, but probably not quite comtemporary. From the cars in the
background, I'd guess the time to be 1920-ish, give or take. The
highwheelers would have been antiques already.
Andy Heninger
carl...@comcast.net
wrote:
Dear Andy,
You're right--the cars are right there in plain sight, but I just
spaced them out, being so entranced by an old photo of a flying
dismount.
And yes, since the question came up somewhere else, it's a dismount.
Anyone who doubts it can try to leap up sideways onto a fixed-gear
highwheeler whose near-side pedal is rising on the back of the pedal
cycle.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel