A bike can be a toy for the rich or a tool for the poor

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

I don't expect the people to pedal uphill, but wherever the land is
flat, the bike is the vehicle of liberation. Liberation from what?
Let's say liberation from our bipedal condition. And liberation from
Big Oil. How can people fail to understand this?

Well, no humble philosopher ever thought about these issues and
presented a solution. THE SOLUTION IS THE REVOLUTION. We are a tool-
making species and we must have the right tool for every situation. An
SUV may be the right vehicle in the African savannah, but so is the
bicycle for the African people. We must always adapt and learn from
our environment. "Learning from the Animal Kingdom is very wise."

On Sep 20, 2:55 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:05:53 -0700 (PDT), robw <noddy...@comcast.net>
> wrote:

> >You said to me that you ride on trails.
> >Remember?
>
> Of course I remember..  In fact I just got back from another 40 mile
> bike ride...   all on bike trails..

A bike can be a toy for the rich or a tool for the poor.

It can also be a vehicle for socialization for those lucky ones that
enjoy healthy communities. Not me.

And it may also be a vehicle for liberation.


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[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 20, 7:37 pm, walker <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:

> TibetanMonke wrote:
> >I don't expect the people to pedal uphill, but wherever the land is
> >flat, the bike is the vehicle of liberation. Liberation from what?
> >Let's say liberation from our bipedal condition. And liberation from
> >Big Oil. How can people fail to understand this?
>

> Perhaps they don't feel nor think they are in bondage.
> Maybe they aren't possessed, as you appear to be.

>
> >Well, no humble philosopher ever thought about these issues and
> >presented a solution.
>

> Probably only arrogant ones did?
> Or just the non-humble ones?
>
> Have you really surveyed all humble philosophers
> to find out of they ever thought about them?
>
> Or, maybe there wasn't a problem
> and so you invented one, to give your life meaning.
>
> You have a cause. A reason.
> So your life isn't meaningless.
>
> Maybe that is the situation.

>
> > THE SOLUTION IS THE REVOLUTION.
>

> SHOUTING LOUDER, does that help?

>
> > We are a tool-
> >making species and we must have the right tool for every situation.
>

> If there was no ulterior motive to Life,
> no reason nor meaning, what would that mean?
>
> Not every situation may need to be tooled.
> Perhaps you think of yourself as a tool.
>
> Without any ulterior motive nor reason
> life can be lived for itself. As a dance or song,
> or a ride, without going anywhere in particular.
>
> For its own self so.
> Ziran or tzu-jan.
>
> A revolution can be resolved
> by dissolving the situation.
>
> That's what solutions can do.
> That's why they're called solutions.
>
> Take water for example.
> It's called the universal solvent.

>
> > An
> >SUV may be the right vehicle in the African savannah, but so is the
> >bicycle for the African people. We must always adapt and learn from
> >our environment. "Learning from the Animal Kingdom is very wise."
>

> Most of my cousins probably live in the day.
> Each day, one day at a time. No worries.
> That might be their non-solution to a non-problem.

I read of a man who could have saved his wife by taking her on a bike
to the nearest clinic. But he had none. No bicycle!

Perhaps aid to Africa should start right there. But it doesn't have to
end there. They need paths --not necessary paved-- and bananas.
Perhaps the people of Africa and us have a lot in common, besides our
bipedal condition. A banana sandwich with bread, water and a path is
all we need. ROAMING FREE is the name of the game.

Are the lions around? I mean real lions. Give them a banana too!

(Peace & Love)

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

(Here we got two posts in "tandem." Tandem is also a two people bike
where you can share with your partner --not possible where bike lanes
make you go in line, so may have lost your partner behind you. That's
why it makes so much sense to TAKE THE LANE, and let traffic go around
you. They have their space, you need yours. Remember, this is a
struggle for space)

On Sep 21, 2:05 am, BeamMeUpScotty
<ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> On 9/20/2012 3:15 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 20, 11:21 am, ColdWarDinosaur <wynnehen...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On 9/20/2012 7:09 AM, Bob wrote:
>
> >>> On 9/19/2012 7:49 PM, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:44:05 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
> >>>> <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> On 9/18/2012 11:30 PM, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:40:32 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
> >>>>>> <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> In China they Execute the politicians that are corrupt.....
>
> >>>>>> They shoot republicans?
>
> >>>>> Mao and "The Great Leap Forward"
>
> >>>> Mao was a ultra-rightwing conservative totalitarian---who used
> >>>> communism as an economic system.
>
> >>> Ultra right wing is anarchy. Ultra left wing is totalitarianism.
>
> >> Occupy was/is very simple. A way for young people to let off some
> >> steam, be identified, do nothing too dangerous, and not get led
> >> anywhere too significant or too dramatic.
>
> > I love that thought. It's similar to Critical Mass and their bike
> > protests. Their rather chaotic approach, occupying parks or road leads
> > to confrontations easily handled by the police.
>
> > I say a few cyclists challenging the monopoly of the cars can do more.
>
> Do you really want to piss off drivers? DO you think they will hit the
> brakes as hard if they are pissed at you?  If you do something stupid
> what makes you think that won't infect and exponentially expand like a
> runaway infectious disease?

Maybe. When the killing becomes pandemic the revolution the lion will
be exposed. Then he would try to fix his image and stop the killing.

At this point they should ban cycling altogether instead of people
struggle so much with it. They should do like the Taliban and confess
that they are strict about their Sacred Laws of Capitalism.

On Sep 20, 4:03 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:04:03 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Sep 19, 4:38 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Sep 18, 2:42 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> Where did you get the insane notion that anyone cared about your
> >> >> fruitcake opinions?
>
> >> >Someone out there cares about it. Arrogance always dooms the
> >> >powerful.
>
> >> >Study how Rome fell to the Barbarians.
>
> >> Perhaps your mommy cares...  can you direct your whines toward her?
>
> >Well, there is your big mistake. The aristocracies have learned form
> >their mistakes when they were crushed by the revolutions in France and
> >Russia. But notice, the aristocracy is smarter and better educated.
> >Now they have learned to share in Europe and elsewhere.
>
> >The problem --the bigger problem anyway-- is the NEW RICH. They are
> >too arrogant and illiterate to learn from the past. They think they
> >are protected from Climate Change and revolutions elsewhere. Prince
> >Charles tends an organic garden and calls for change, but you drive
> >ever bigger trucks and isolate in gated communities in greater
> >numbers. You expect the whole world to live in gated communities and
> >drive big trucks?
>
> Oh hell no, you losers have to live in your ghettos..

Not necessarily. Your gated communities are very boring and have no
space. You too live in the cage, thought it may be golden. But the
rich somehow accommodate themselves to living in such safe havens.

>
> >You don't know the real world because you live behind walls. At a time
> >communism seemed invincible but that  wall in Berlin was a pain. Then
> >Globalization came will walls and democracy. Now we have replaced
> >Apartheid with gated communities that have the same effect. Your
> >Supersized Unsafe Vehicles have come to dominate the capitalist jungle
> >with great display of power.
>
> My vehicle is very safe.

And very unsafe to others. An SUV is unsafe to others.

>
> >Sorry, everything is just an illusion, a brief illusion in terms of
> >evolution. You are just inviting revolution or extinction.
>
> Bring it on...

Good. Now we have an opponent. But think about it. Communists went
along with the changes when liberation came to Eastern Europe. All
resistance is futile.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 21, 6:15 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:

> >See, I know how to profile the lion. May I say you also strap your
> >bike to your SUV before you launch it?
>
> I don't have an SUV.  I have a pickup truck with a fiberglass cap, and
> both bikes fit comfortably inside for trips to and from the bike
> trails.

Why not ride all the way? Don't you agree those roads out there need
taming?

Priority number one of the revolution is to implement speed cameras
while creating an autobahn. Yes, there should be space for all without
the risk associated with speeding through communities and roads
without proper shoulders. In the boondocks where I was people had to
share the road with cars going between 35 and 55mph. No wonder people
is reluctant to walk or ride a bike.

The problem is you need a car wherever you go.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

I like to say that WITH THE REVOLUTION EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. It may
sound unbelievable but it's possible. Something that we will do is
legalize prostitution and drugs. Well, maybe regulate is the proper
term. All the resources that now go to those enterprises or industries
--they are there to make money-- will go to protect pedestrians and
cyclists. Prisons may generate money but it's not our priority. We can
actually reduce taxes that way.

Today I went around biking in my community and it's not what a
dignified man would do. They treat you like a monkey or an insect if
you will. One driver cut me off in my face and I almost went under his
truck. I said, "Hey, you almost killed me!" And he replied calmly,
"Not quite." Of course it was the good brakes of my bike that saved
me. One favorite project under the revolution --where anything is
possible-- is to put undercover cops posing as mundane cyclists. One
strike and they are out. That means they would lose their "license to
kill" on the spot.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 22, 5:15 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:38:19 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach

>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I like to say that WITH THE REVOLUTION EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. It may
> >sound unbelievable but it's possible. Something that we will do is
> >legalize prostitution and drugs. Well, maybe regulate is the proper
> >term. All the resources that now go to those enterprises or industries
> >--they are there to make money-- will go to protect pedestrians and
> >cyclists. Prisons may generate money but it's not our priority. We can
> >actually reduce taxes that way.
>

> <LOL> @ your fantasies about revolution.

I may have fantasies about naked women, but not revolution.

You are promoting the revolution yourself. There's a revolutionary law
that says, "The more you squeeze the people, the more they'll join the
revolution." Or if they live in the Third World it says, "The more you
squeeze the people, the more they'll migrate to your country." But
that may produce a backlash from the people who already live in those
countries and question how many people they can admit before they get
overwhelmed. Then the revolution is desirable for the Third World
because poverty will inevitably spill to the rich countries.

It's a matter of when and how. I just want it to be fair for all. Why
the Western corporations are squeezing the south and denying them a
dignified life? You may argue that's a problem with their corrupt
elites, but those same elites are convenient to them, then they get
rich and run to the affluent West. And happily ever after...

So the revolution is desirable to all. It may be in Africa or Mexico
but things are not sustainable.

[AMuzi]

Monkey blathered:

> I may have fantasies about naked women, but not revolution.

If you just leave us alone and go ride a bicycle you may
well meet real women. Unlikely, yes, but sitting in your
mother's basement accosting r.b.t. isn't working out either.



--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[Edward Dolan]

Hi Andrew!

Monkey just likes to mutter to himself. He is unable to connect to another
living human being. There is never any point in responding to his posts
since all he does is stay on his tangent no matter what is said. He does not
even have brains enough to know how to handle an insult (at which I am a
world class expert).

But I think the good (?) old days of Usenet are gone forever for a variety
of reasons. It requires a Tom Sherman to agitate and otherwise stimulate.
Everything comes to an end and Usenet is no exception. I wonder if the other
cycling forums are as dead as RBS . I am too lazy to bother to check them.

Ed Dolan the Great

"AMuzi" wrote in message news:k3kta0$6b8$1...@dont-email.me...

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 22, 3:32 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> Hi Andrew!
>
> Monkey just likes to mutter to himself. He is unable to connect to another
> living human being. There is never any point in responding to his posts
> since all he does is stay on his tangent no matter what is said. He does not
> even have brains enough to know how to handle an insult (at which I am a
> world class expert).
>
> But I think the good (?) old days of Usenet are gone forever for a variety
> of reasons. It requires a Tom Sherman to agitate and otherwise stimulate.
> Everything comes to an end and Usenet is no exception. I wonder if the other
> cycling forums are as dead as RBS . I am too lazy to bother to check them.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great
>

> "AMuzi"  wrote in messagenews:k3kta0$6b8$1...@dont-email.me...

>
> Monkey blathered:
>
> > I may have fantasies about naked women, but not revolution.
> >> If you just leave us alone and go ride a bicycle you may
>
> well meet real women. Unlikely, yes, but sitting in your
> mother's basement accosting r.b.t. isn't working out either.

Well, I now have cyclists as a secondary audience. My main audience
now is the African people and the Buddhists. I think my audience is
expanding as I talk about every possible out there, including women.
Women think that cyclists are losers but that's because we don't have
a truck. How can we get women while riding a bike? How do we take them
out, on a tandem?

Well, I was lucky that my GF is OK with it, but it ain't easy.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 22, 12:18 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> African people need tablets, those cheap Chinese tablets so they can
> watch Netflix. You know, there's a Canadian movie they could never
> make in America. Check it out in Netflix. "Tunnel Rats."

Let me talk about Tunnel Rats and strategy in the jungle. The lion has
no chance in the jungle. The tunnels belong to the rat, the ground is
the hunting ground of the snake and the air is the realm of the
mosquito. In the movie the Marines are stuck in Vietnam fighting a war
where the enemy knows the terrain. They tried Agent Orange but it's
impossible to wipe out the whole jungle and then some of the American
troops were affected too. WMD's are a Pandora's box.

The movie is brutal, the jungle is brutal. In this asphalt jungle
where I live a bike ride can become a nasty fight for survival. It
happened to me. And they treat me as an insect, so I become a nagging
mosquito. We could come out of the jungle if they rich paid attention.
The poor are just trying to survive and trust the leaders, always
hoping that the next one will be the right one. And the leaders
themselves are trying to survive without antagonizing the rich. They
are sacred, every social program is on the table. Not that they are
the solution. They are an aspirin. Obama promotes some Universal
Healthcare but it may be complicated and --they argue--
unconstitutional. It may have been nice and simple like in Canada but
it antagonizes too many people. It may actually have saved a lot of
money, but you don't hear that from the politicians. If they are
trying to sink Obama's plan, they could have at least a Plan B. No,
they figure their audience hates Obama anyway, so no further option is
offered.

What a dilemma! Nobody wants to face reality. It's too scary. The
Planet is being trashed. Not even recycling here. Only a handful of
states have deposit programs on bottles. The supermarkets oppose it. I
don't know where to take the used batteries, maybe they dump it too.
Money is going down the drain on road embellishment, which adds yet
another obstacle. The big corporations don't want to hear about saving
energy. The politicians oblige. The little corporations wonder then
their technologies will have a chance. Wind and solar energy remain in
the wings. Neighborhood Electric Vehicles remain a toy for the golf
course, not a real vehicle for the community. Just insane to drive one
among the big trucks speeding around with casual disregard for others.
The rich escape to walled enclaves and the poor are doomed to live in
fear. There's no right and wrong, just a struggle for survival...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmEuGECjMls

Do the African people need Internet tablets? They need to catch up,
don't they? Many of these things that we dismiss in the West --the
bike, the wind and electric technologies-- can be put to use. Maybe
they can have a better life than we do in the rat race. China is
winning the race anyway, so things are bound to change. THAT'S
REVOLUTION TIME.

[Wes Groleau]

On 09-22-2012 13:42, AMuzi wrote:
> Monkey blathered:
>> I may have fantasies about naked women, but not revolution.
>
> If you just leave us alone and go ride a bicycle you may well meet real
> women. Unlikely, yes, but sitting in your mother's basement accosting
> r.b.t. isn't working out either.

Well, when every motorist has a personal vendetta against you, a
basement is the only place to be.


--
Wes Groleau

Nobody believes a theoretical analysis — except the guy who did it.
Everybody believes an experimental analysis — except the guy who did it.
— Unknown

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 23, 12:50 am, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> On 09-22-2012 13:42, AMuzi wrote:
>
> > Monkey blathered:
> >> I may have fantasies about naked women, but not revolution.
>
> > If you just leave us alone and go ride a bicycle you may well meet real
> > women. Unlikely, yes, but sitting in your mother's basement accosting
> > r.b.t. isn't working out either.
>
> Well, when every motorist has a personal vendetta against you, a
> basement is the only place to be.

I guess they have a mission to clear the streets of undesirable
cyclists. Perhaps they think they own the streets and think of people
riding bike as monkeys.

The latest incident involved a gardening truck full of idiots who cut
me off right in my face. He did calmly and with no regrets even though
he almost killed me. I said, "Hey, you want to kill me?" And he said,
"nah." If I confront him means more trouble. You must accept your
insignificance and move on.

Until you get tired of it and pack a gun.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 22, 10:12 pm, BeamMeUpScotty
<ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

> On 9/22/2012 4:25 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:

> > Maybe
> > they can have a better life than we do in the rat race. China is
> > winning the race anyway, so things are bound to change. THAT'S
> > REVOLUTION TIME.
>

> They were starving 50 years ago....  we sent them our wealth.
>
> The Chinese used coal and gasoline and cars to escape starvation, NOT
> wind, solar and bikes.

Nobody is proposing Mao's solution. Even his one-bike-fits-all was way
big for the average Chinese.

http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/la/082808_bike.jpg

It would be beautiful for us in the West.

But now that you made the Chinese hungry, you'll be fighting over oil
and precious minerals. The world would actually be much better off if
they followed the path I humbly propose. I mean THE REVOLUTION WILL
NOT BE MOTORIZED.

[Edward Dolan]

"TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" wrote in message
news:7789ab65-7e31-429f...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 22, 3:32 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> Hi Andrew!
>
> Monkey just likes to mutter to himself. He is unable to connect to another
> living human being. There is never any point in responding to his posts
> since all he does is stay on his tangent no matter what is said. He does
> not
> even have brains enough to know how to handle an insult (at which I am a
> world class expert).
>
> But I think the good (?) old days of Usenet are gone forever for a variety
> of reasons. It requires a Tom Sherman to agitate and otherwise stimulate.
> Everything comes to an end and Usenet is no exception. I wonder if the
> other
> cycling forums are as dead as RBS . I am too lazy to bother to check them.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great

[...]

>> Well, I now have cyclists as a secondary audience. My main audience
now is the African people and the Buddhists. I think my audience is
expanding as I talk about every possible out there, including women.
Women think that cyclists are losers but that's because we don't have
a truck. How can we get women while riding a bike? How do we take them
out, on a tandem?

Listen up you poor crazy bastard! Africa is the most fucked up place in the
world and Buddhism is the most fucked up religion in the world. But this
does fit right in with you since you are the most fucked up individual in
the world. Would that you would only fuck with them and leave us cyclists
alone.

>> Well, I was lucky that my GF is OK with it, but it ain't easy.

Your girl friend is as fucked up as you are. Do the world a favor and don't
have any progeny from your fornications.

Ed Dolan the Great

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 23, 8:21 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"  wrote in messagenews:7789ab65-7e31-429f...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...

I think Africans live better than Minnesotans. At least they live
better than in upstate NY. They got the nice weather and the space to
ride. They just grab peanuts and go around all day long. We got plenty
of food but no place to roam free.

On Sep 23, 5:49 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sep 23, 11:37 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > What a pity marijuana is banned and prosecuted.
>
> long run monkey.
>
> rules are written by losers.
>
> there are only six distinct chess pieces on the board. each with a
> strict and assigned law of motion.
>
> castling. absurd.
>
> i think africans would prefer shoes for bicycling.

Don't they run barefoot? I think they don't care about shoes.

All you really really need is flip flops and a bike...

http://www.otmbikes.com/wpblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/african-kid-bike-holiday-unicef.jpg

Oh, I think people in Africa practice my wisdom.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 23, 11:55 pm, Tim <8.tim.har...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > that is so stupid monkey. of course they would wear shoes. that they
> > don't maybe. but they would.
>
> i mean holy shit, without shoes on a bike... have you ever skinned the
> inside of your ankles on the chain? ever been going down a hill real
> fast and have to put your foot down to stop from skidding out? have
> you ever got your toes turned under then crash into a rock?
>
> you know what i think though? i think we have girls bikes and boys
> bikes, you know the difference between the bars mixed up... at least
> if you had the bar that slants down you could save your banana but
> then.... this doesn't make sense... monkey has a girl's bike, monkey
> has a girl's bike... besides, i have a friend that says a yoni can
> really take a pounding...

The Banana Revolution doesn't endorse anything that may endanger the
banana. I have discarded some seats that come standard because they
are too soft and thus give me numbness. Mind you I ride mostly beach
cruisers, which translate into big seats.

For some mysterious reason the banana works better than ever as I grow
older. You have to remember that the blood flow is increased to that
area by pedaling, so that may be the reason. And, of course, being a
Tantric Master with that laid back TibetanMonkey Position also helps
the copulation. Quickies are for chicken.

This is Viagra Free territory.

Notice how productive those Africans are...

http://bicycledesign.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/worldbike-cargo-bike.jpg

How can they risk losing the banana!?

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 23, 11:55 pm, Tim <8.tim.har...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > that is so stupid monkey. of course they would wear shoes. that they
> > don't maybe. but they would.
>
> i mean holy shit, without shoes on a bike... have you ever skinned the
> inside of your ankles on the chain? ever been going down a hill real
> fast and have to put your foot down to stop from skidding out? have
> you ever got your toes turned under then crash into a rock?

I just like the feeling of freedom I get with the flip flops. They
make you feel way cooler in hot climates. I understand there are
risks, but bicycling is all about pleasure. The Dutch are rather
casual about it --they rarely use helmets-- and you may argue that
foot brakes alone are dangerous. The Dutch bike and the beach cruiser
are very similar in simplicity and carefree riding, but they are all
about freedom. Dutch women do their makeup while riding...

Now you know how well I know my trade.

Let me see: Tantric Master, Bike Promoter and Leisure Consultant among
other areas of expertise.

Just trying to make people happy. This is a happy family:

http://media.nowpublic.net/images//17/d/17d47a56e28240e67495dc42de74df75.jpg

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 24, 4:06 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sep 24, 1:51 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

>
> <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > foot brakes alone are dangerous. The Dutch bike and the beach cruiser
> > are very similar in simplicity and carefree riding, but they are all
> > about freedom. Dutch women do their makeup while riding...
>

> i am getting a clearer picture of this now... i thought beach cruiser
> was an SUV.

"Life's a beach!"

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-USDJaHfre-0/TVyd_ULC53I/AAAAAAAAAVI/N654qMky4Ak/s1600/beachcruiser.jpg

But our masters make it a bitch. They fail to appreciate the beauty
around them. They try to make you drive something that feeds them.
That's why I call them a "hungry lion."

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 24, 4:24 pm, Tim <8.tim.har...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 2:20 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

>
> <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > But our masters make it a bitch. They fail to appreciate the beauty
> > around them. They try to make you drive something that feeds them.
> > That's why I call them a "hungry lion."
>

> i think you are being too generous when you say "lions"... it has a
> tendency to encourage certain types of behaviors... after all, the
> pain staking to "don't jump" is easy but when it comes to jumping...
> there must be an exception. we know you are the one.

They surround themselves with lion symbols. I'm only assigning the
animal of their choice.

This is a free woman in Africa...

http://www.eta.co.uk/files/images/Royal-Mail-bicycle-in-africa.jpg

Women in my area area are in the cage, or surviving on sidewalks where
they are treated as insects.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 24, 6:55 pm, SG <sgman0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:37:56 PM UTC-7, walker wrote:

> > TibetanMonke wrote:
>
> > >I don't expect the people to pedal uphill, but wherever the land is
>
> > >flat, the bike is the vehicle of liberation. Liberation from what?
>
> > >Let's say liberation from our bipedal condition. And liberation from
>
> > >Big Oil. How can people fail to understand this?
>

> > Perhaps they don't feel nor think they are in bondage.
>
> > Maybe they aren't possessed, as you appear to be.
>

> > >Well, no humble philosopher ever thought about these issues and
>
> > >presented a solution.
>

> > Probably only arrogant ones did?
>
> > Or just the non-humble ones?
>
> > Have you really surveyed all humble philosophers
>
> > to find out of they ever thought about them?
>
> > Or, maybe there wasn't a problem
>
> > and so you invented one, to give your life meaning.
>

> It's funny you should say that. I was watching an interview on a clip on YT of an 'Occupy Wall Street' protester. Her face was lit up like the 4th of July. The act of fighting (as it seemed to me)was more important to her than the outcome aimed for.

There's a new movie out that makes a subject out of "random violence."
It happens that some people don't deserve to live since they have
casual disregard for other people's lives. I may call this act of
cutting me off "criminal negligence." He's assuming that my brakes
worked right, and that I was paying attention. I recreate in my mind
the act of challenging him with a gun. Notice he never said "sorry."

This is the movie:

'God Bless America'

"I love this movie, Don't get me wrong its a little under budget but I
think the message gets across and is true!!! I wish everyone I know
would watch this movie. I think this movie knows its place and is
written and directed as so. I can't wait to recommend this to all my
friends. I like the actors they feel real for the story line and do
the things we all wish we could do. I can only hope a film like this
can shake up people and not just shrug it off as a small film. This
film does tackle a lot of social problems that exist in society today.
This is not a JUNO film!! This has a touch of reality that America
wants to deny and a extreme that seems to escape every one as it is
rubbed in your face over and over again and the easier the lie the
easier we swallow"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1912398/

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 24, 5:56 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sep 24, 3:40 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

>
> <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > They surround themselves with lion symbols. I'm only assigning the
> > animal of their choice.

> > Women in my area area are in the cage, or surviving on sidewalks where
> > they are treated as insects.
>

> that of course, insects, are the symbols they also choose for
> themselves... me sticks of a double standard here.
>
> it does raise the big social stupid scale doesn't it? that those
> people "choose" that life for themselves and thus should be treated as
> such. i think that is why it was important to give everyone a turn as
> a bug in a storm. odd as it may seem, the streets are more and better
> prepared than the lions. and when it comes to enough, it is only the
> lion's strength (police state) that prevents them from striking today
> with murderous blows and humiliations supreme.

The minute cyclists ride on sidewalks they become insects. Most do
because the option is to ride on the street and be eaten by a lion.
They simply think they own the road and attack with little fear of
punishment. I've tried it on the street, TAKING THE LANE, and I do
come under attack every time. The BIKE LANES are not connect so they
remain nothing more than a show.

But when you think about it the insect is the ultimate weapon of
nature, the mosquito being the true king of the jungle.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 26, 4:21 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sep 26, 10:37 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

> karma is kind of like that monkey. taking the lane. pissing off some
> people (you really never do expect a mine on the field), you do a few
> times, like an experiement, then you build up quite the reputation.
> then one day, you say starting now. and you never do it again. and on
> that same day, you turn the corner, and there are one hundred people
> with bats wanting to play monkey ball.
>
> of course you will say you changed and can prove it. wha would we
> expect you to say?

Anything less than TAKING THE LANE makes a monkey out of you. Riding
on the edge encourages that they squeeze you and becomes VERY
STRESSFUL. Riding on sidewalk becomes WINDING & GRINDING.

That's why people don't ride bike or walk in America. Remember, most
suburbs don't even offer a sidewalk. Like I say, MONKEY IN THE CAGE.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 27, 10:19 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 3:35 pm, Tim <8.tim.har...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 27, 9:37 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> > <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Life in the cage..
>
> > > If you ask my dog he would tell that's no life. He can take a bird
> > > cage for a while but that's because he's looking outside. And his
> > > master ALWAYS takes him out.
>
> > > Do our masters provide for us being out of the cage?
>
> > birds sing in the cage monkey.
>
> > dogs bark.
>
> > what is better to the ear?
>
> > and yet, it is suffering.
>
> Birds are unhappy in cage, dog is happy is cage.
>
> That's because I take him out to walk. That's my only walk for the day
> too.
>
> How much should a humble man walk? Why the rich don't care about the
> most humble bipedal activity? I'll think about while I walk the dog.

I thought about it while walking my dog and I realized that walking
the dog is a "bourgeois pursuit." The Wise Man must walk and walk --or
ride and ride-- until he's tired.

Around here members of the idle class walk their dogs, being that
their only time out of the cage --for both master and dog. It has
become the only time out of the cage for me, but I intend to remedy
that.

Now let's remember the good old times:

The Tramp and the "Idle Class"

The Little Tramp represented a set of values at once deeply attractive
and deeply threatening; at the core of this set of values is freedom
from the structure of society. By donning the ill-fitting suit of the
Tramp, Chaplin was taking on a healthy load of symbolic baggage. His
Tramp did not make people feel guilty, ashamed, or afraid; rather,
they felt entertained.

The Tramp did not have to enact a revolution because his very
existence was a revolt. His bodily freedom, expressed comedically,
represented a freedom from the class structure in such a way so as to
appeal to the new denizens of popular culture without the stigma of an
overt political agenda.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~1930s/film/chaplin/meth3.html

***

In other words, Chaplin was the monkey roaming free. That's hard to do
nowadays. The Rich control the movie industry and the streets. Gated
Communities and SUVs are the very symbols of their arrogance.

But that's only my humble opinion.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 28, 11:31 am, liaM <cud...@mindless.com> wrote:
> Le 28/09/2012 17:19, Wet Paper Bag a écrit :
>
> > iow... well down monkey. there is some real writing in there. but the
> > chaplin bit? you are such an ass kisser.
>
> takes one to know one hehe

Everything that proves my case is good for the revolution. Chaplin
could be the perfect symbol of liberation:

"In the Tramp, Chaplin found a vehicle for the expression of an
authentic experience. The substance of this experience was the
fulfilled desire for physical freedom in a society structured to
obstruct ease of mobility. Charlie's ability to move so easily and
with such authenticity resonated with his audience's frustration at
the restriction of lives governed by social propriety, the class
structure and, especially in the thirties, the regime of
mechanization."

***

So we are looking for s-p-a-c-e to move around freely. Today more than
ever mechanization is the only option. The human being is
insignificant. No place to walk or ride a bike.

And we have no one making us laugh about the establishment. Unless you
want to laugh about the antics of the monkey. That's funny.

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/funny_monkey.jpg

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 30, 8:10 am, liaM <cud...@mindless.com> wrote:
> Le 30/09/2012 00:50, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher a crit :
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >Many people --drivers and idiots-- take away my energy but I gain it
> >> >these forums.
> > I mean the forums give me energy. The streets rob my energy when I see
> > all that filth and low life people. It was different in NYC though. It
> > takes a courageous man --Mayor Bloomberg-- to clean up a place. It
> > must be that way so the streets are clean and safe.
>
> > But 90% of the people live a different reality --the sprawl. It's an
> > evil design made to maximize the profit by accommodating the couch
> > potato, but people lose their humanity. The FAT ASSES just make me
> > throw up. How can anyone defend a society where obesity is the #1
> > health risk? Where's the human contact?
>
> > My waistline grew a bit too much from sitting in the boondocks but I'm
> > fighting back. Actually every single human being must have the space
> > to move and socialize. Those who paint Buddha fat are probably trying
> > to put a great wise man down. He would have surely joined my
> > revolution.
>
> "Thousands of cyclists hit downtown San Francisco's streets Friday
> evening, celebrating the 20th anniversary of the monthly Critical Mass
> bike rides by snarling traffic across the city."
>
> http://m.sfgate.com/sfchron/db_106666/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=h...

They are playing revolution without ever getting in trouble or
accomplishing anything. They are similar to Occupy in that sense.

All it takes to change the world is some groups of coordinated
cyclists to TAKE THE LANE (not block the road) and hold it. We may be
harassed or attacked but we'll be on the news. Bicycles are a vehicle
and they don't belong on sidewalks. "Bike facilities" are a joke in
America, a cruel joke. Well, it all boils down to taming traffic and
protecting the weaker members of society, and that includes the
elderly pedestrians who now must deal with bikes on sidewalks.

Ironically it's the same elderly population at the bottom of the food
chain who now control the political machinery. I wonder if they
realize they are both the masters and the underdogs of this political
game called "democracy."

The young though are just trying to play revolution without clear
understanding of the jungle. People in Critical Mass are just wild
monkeys who are missing a philosopher.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 1, 5:21 am, liaM <cud...@mindless.com> wrote:
> Le 01/10/2012 05:18, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher a écrit :
>
> > On Sep 30, 12:33 pm, liaM <cud...@mindless.com> wrote:
> >>https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398366_4210240...
>
> > That looks like Chaplin. He reminds me of a chihuahua. Mine even even
> > has the same look. For real. Anyone knows how to put a picture here?
>
> > Perfect symbols for the revolution.
>
> Does revolution need spectators to work ?  Is it only for actors ?

It does need cheerleaders and audience, like all spectator sports. But
it doesn't need apathetic people like "democracy." I don't know why it
turns into idiocracy along the way. Or perhaps it was meant to be.
It's a great idea itself but it went into "automatic pilot" along the
way and nobody knows any other way.

Anyway, we are dumping and trashing the planet and nobody knows how to
stop it. I know it though. It starts with people riding bike and
walking but it doesn't end there. In a way it's like the Tour de
France: A few people enjoy the glory at the top, but everybody has fun
along the way.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Sep 30, 12:19 pm, Nickname unavailable
<video61%tcq....@gtempaccount.com> wrote:
> On Sep 30, 9:23 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Their type have made a wasteland out of America. Anonymous sprawls,
> > trucks and Walmarts, where obesity and churches are the norm. The
> > church part is because they are looking for meaning. But there's isn't
> > any meaning to their lifestyle. It's sick!
>
>  you cannot reason with people who are missing all of the traits that
> make them human, so forget trying to reason with steve. some day
> americans are going to see all of the demagoguery for what it is.
> simply sociopthas who despise civil society. they got a hold of
> central europe in the 1930's, they are trying it here in america
> today.
>  its very hard to counter them once they get a public mouth. many are
> very charismatic(another sign of a sociopath), and attract the weak
> minded. one can only hope that they tip themselves off to the public
> before they can destroy all that is good. they are close now, but i
> think they may have over played it, another sign of a sociopath.

The trend started with a charismatic leader --Reagan-- disguising the
philosophy of "dog eat dog" as "trickle down economics." Well, it
never trickled down. Wealth went abroad and went to buy them
antisocial vehicles and some real estate isolated from the people they
so much despise. I don't know why they even claim they live in
democracy.

This is FEUDALISM.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 1, 10:21 am, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 1, 7:11 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

>
> <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > it doesn't need apathetic people like "democracy." I don't know why it
> > turns into idiocracy along the way. Or perhaps it was meant to be.
>

> sure. meant to be. even the corrupt tyrannical leaders that lead you
> directly into poverty in less than 50 wanted that end.
>
> and as for the herds, well, they heard there was going to come a time
> when they can get whatever they want. to shrug off years of the yoke,
> to be free from their servitude to other people's dreams and pawns in
> their games, a chance to use words like revenge, vengeance, vendetta.
> an opportunity to get away it.
>
> but a revolution it is not. a revolution is organized and not an all
> you can eat buffet, besides, a revolution happens within the natural
> order of things and does not have all these added pressures. what
> would be the end here? an opening of the granary? a flood of hoarded
> wealth? the end of starvation and poverty?
>
> so even if you win, what have you won other than occupying an old
> whore of a dirty diaper?

>
> > It's a great idea itself but it went into "automatic pilot" along the
> > way and nobody knows any other way.
>

> automatic pilot? that is not what it is at all. for our more northern
> readers, it is hardly automatic pilot when you hit  a stretch of black
> ice at 100km/hour where your breaks lock and there is really nothing
> to do but enjoy the show.

>
> > Anyway, we are dumping and trashing the planet and nobody knows how to
> > stop it. I know it though. It starts with people riding bike and
>

> it is called momentum.

>
> > walking but it doesn't end there. In a way it's like the Tour de
> > France: A few people enjoy the glory at the top, but everybody has fun
> > along the way.
>

> having a blast... one more winter like the last and this victory is
> all tied up.

You just hibernate there and when you wake up, you may the revolution
right there. The "dinosaur" will be no more. You have your grievances,
you address them and they'll be solved in 72 hours. It's like calling
customer service.

No place to walk? We can either provide you a sidewalk or a bike
facility. The bike facility itself may take advantage of the current
road, so we can save money in infrastructure. Tell you what, I'll give
you a whole traffic lane for you...

Happy now? Have a nice day!

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 1, 9:30 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this is kind of related here. Well, "everything" is related in
> the jungle:

>
> On Sep 30, 12:19 pm, Nickname unavailable
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <video61%tcq....@gtempaccount.com> wrote:

> > On Sep 30, 9:23 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

>
> > <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Their type have made a wasteland out of America. Anonymous sprawls,
> > > trucks and Walmarts, where obesity and churches are the norm. The
> > > church part is because they are looking for meaning. But there's isn't
> > > any meaning to their lifestyle. It's sick!
>
> >  you cannot reason with people who are missing all of the traits that
> > make them human, so forget trying to reason with steve. some day
> > americans are going to see all of the demagoguery for what it is.
> > simply sociopthas who despise civil society. they got a hold of
> > central europe in the 1930's, they are trying it here in america
> > today.
> >  its very hard to counter them once they get a public mouth. many are
> > very charismatic(another sign of a sociopath), and attract the weak
> > minded. one can only hope that they tip themselves off to the public
> > before they can destroy all that is good. they are close now, but i
> > think they may have over played it, another sign of a sociopath.
>
> The trend started with a charismatic leader --Reagan-- disguising the
> philosophy of "dog eat dog" as "trickle down economics." Well, it
> never trickled down. Wealth went abroad and went to buy them
> antisocial vehicles and some real estate isolated from the people they
> so much despise. I don't know why they even claim they live in
> democracy.
>
> This is FEUDALISM.

I don't want to give the false impression that I confuse "democracy"
with "feudalism." Actually I may prefer this system we live under as
DEMOCRATIC FEUDALISM. Yes, a portion of the population is there to
lend support to the idea, but a big chunk of the people feels
disfranchised and doesn't even bother, and there is --most
importantly-- a privileged few who enjoy the full benefit of the
system. They are the lords and overlords who enjoy their gated
communities and SUVs. A state of permanent war is necessary to keep
the system going.

But the "serfs" are struggling in life because... We'll we don't know
even why, but a serf is denied mobility when it means relying on his
own energy. It's pretty much like a serf having his own windmill. The
lords don't like the idea of self-sufficiency. And when you must feed
the system, then the lords are happy. You need to buy a machine that
is compounded with interests and you are in servitude for 5 years or
whatever.

So we are living another Dark Age. And a new vision is around the
horizon. That's the revolution.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 1, 12:50 pm, Tim <8.tim.har...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 Oct, 09:33, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

>
> <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You just hibernate there and when you wake up, you may the revolution
> > right there. The "dinosaur" will be no more. You have your grievances,
>

> wow. yeah. whatever. how many more generations, epochs and maya great
> count cycles do you think you will be needing monkey?

>
> > you address them and they'll be solved in 72 hours. It's like calling
> > customer service.
>

> it is just like customer service but what is in question here is who
> is the customer? it seems that your free will democracically elected
> stooges work for you. they have a different idea. and it is all tied
> together under the will of the people. do you think the complete
> miscarriage and raping of lady justice will help your revolution
> monkey? you seem to have missed the meal and gone straight to
> dessert.
>
> what are the conditions of every successful, and in some cases failed,
> revolutions? that at the end of the road there will be good things
> again and no one cares who is in charge as long as their is a good
> ending. so revolution here is completely misguided you stupid little
> monkey. totally the wrong word. anarachy is what you mean. so the next
> time you face those lions accept that they will not change. the
> conditions are not right, the ingredients are not present.

>
> > No place to walk? We can either provide you a sidewalk or a bike
> > facility. The bike facility itself may take advantage of the current
> > road, so we can save money in infrastructure. Tell you what, I'll give
> > you a whole traffic lane for you...
>
> > Happy now? Have a nice day!
>

> happy now? was i unhappy before monkey? how could you tell?
>
> but if you want a real look, a real insight, consider that allegedly
> among this alt.zen are some of the most enlightened, elite ivory
> towered intellectuals the world can find and yet, well, take your
> leadership monkey. that is exactly what people want. your style of
> lameness and stupidity that is obsessed on a point of fact that is so
> obvious. really, we should all ride bikes. great idea. how much does a
> bike cost? feed the world!

I thought we said the revolution is for Africa. Canada is a fairly
democratic country without gated communities and no... well, not so
many SUVs percapita.

I just don't understand how Canada --a country with a strong European
heritage-- can not have efficient French cars and turns instead to
Supersized Unsafe Vehicles. Where are the Renaults, Peugeots and
Citroens?

France is turning toward electric cars and you are way behind the
revolution. Yes, it's a technological revolution but it may also help
the planet. That's the bottom line, right?

These are the main goals of the revolution:

1- Saving the planet,

2- Providing space to walk and ride a bike,

3- Embracing new technologies,

4- Saving God, who's in a cage, remember?

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 2, 12:48 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 1 Oct, 13:46, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

>
> <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > These are the main goals of the revolution:
>
> > 1- Saving the planet,
>

> shut it down.

Some say we behave like a virus. But it's all the fault of those who
force us to live one way or another. Where's that preventive medicine?

>
>
>
> > 2- Providing space to walk and ride a bike,
>

> whatever.
>
>
>
> > 3- Embracing new technologies,
>
> like what? i was the best technology ever created. humans didn't
> discover perspective until the 1500s and didn't discover gravity until
> 1700s. does not bode well for something new, something old.
> unimaginative people have no chance of discovering the next big thing.
> that is why they invented then cornered the market. can't do anything
> about that. and now, i have decided not to co-operate.

Nuclear energy, electric cars (including the Canadian Bombardier NEV),
solar energy, wind energy, pedal power. They are all solutions to be
promoted by the revolution.

http://www.greencar.com/articles/bombardier-debuts-under-7000-neighborhood-electric-vehicle.php

>
>
>
> > 4- Saving God, who's in a cage, remember?
>

> god is not in a cage monkey. the devil is not in a cage either. there
> is no cage monkey. do as you will.

I've heard it a lot from religious people: "Satan is loose!" Then
where's God. It's obvious. "God is in the cage!"

I think Satan takes him out once in a while on a leash so he can pee
and shit. Poor God. He needs to be rescued!

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 3, 3:51 pm, "Tad Perry" <tadpe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 27, 5:20 pm, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On 27 Sep, 09:17, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> Do I need to say more? The TibetanMonkey way is Buddha's way. And if
>
> >> yes. monkey. please. say more. i have been here and tracked for over
> >> 15 years and you are not me. it is that cut and dried. i never
> >> contradict myself in a post. you missed that detail in my shell
> >> game... but you want more proof...
>
> >> the tibetanmonkey way has nothing to do with buddhism since buddhism
> >> is about acceptance, compliance, and good to all. there is nothing
> >> about your years of whining that says you agree. as far as i ma
> >> cons=cerned the faster someone smokes you the better. and you count
> >> every day alive as, not a blessing to make the necessary change, but
> >> a finger in he eye of God. no one cares monkey. can you ride a bike
> >> when you have no food? it is called resolving the stack. what comes
> >> first.
>
> >>> you don't like then you must be driving, meaning feeding terrorism,
>
> >> feeding terrorism monkey? you make a mockery of the process. you are
> >> feeding terrorism by making light of somethign serious. just a jew
> >> antagonist. i told you that years ago. nothing has changed. we feed
> >> you the confidence but we can also take it away.
>
> >>> polluting and intimidating people. It's like I say, MY WAY OR THE
> >>> HIGHWAY.
>
> >> the people, as you say, are in cages. they are polluted and
> >> intimadated... your way? what is, is monkey. you seem to have another
> >> idea. it is not your way. buddha did not mock suffering with
> >> superficial stupidity as bike riding being the answer. obviously. but
> >> this is about monkey vs. the suv, personal. i hope one of those
> >> members decides to spread you like jam to relieve the suffering of
> >> both pedestrian and motorist. at least those boundrys are defined.
>
> >>> You noticed Buddha would carry a little dog also? And he's riding a
> >>> beach cruiser too. It could not be coincidence.
>
> >> buddha didn't have a dog monkey. it is an anology to buddha himself.
> >> what is his name? and he will obey. that is a standard goetia
> >> concept. that if you know i am Lucifer, that some how revealing my
> >> name has power over me... or my not wanting my name to be
> >> revealed... why would i fear that monkey unless... unless... i am a
> >> Jew... when in fact, it was more like a nazi problem when the death
> >> to the finish pledgers ran away like the little fucking jew cowards
> >> they really are... then, along comes some victim... hey, i know who
> >> you are... and the extortion begins... big difference monkey.
>
> >> that is not your real name Jew. you are on my time and your life is
> >> drawing to an abrupt finish. i do not care what you think death is. i
> >> know. and it is that fact alone that compassions me to by-pass your
> >> being tortured. but if you think i am threatening you. call the cops.
> >> becasue when i get my hands around your throat yan, i am going to
> >> take my time... you see, you are surrounded by 4M like minded people
> >> who are surrounded by 7B people that have a hard on to take NYC and
> >> everyone in it until there is not one stonce standing on the next...
>
> >> i am just tying up loss ends now. you see, brad wall and his family
> >> are on my list of kills too... and am just proving it to him now...
> >> and when he learns that my authotrity goes all the way to the top...
> >> he will likely buy me that ticket to NYC...
>
> >> here is a hint monkey... no food.
>
> >> in the past your jewry would work. hiding like a Jew behind Jew made
> >> up rules, backed by Jew willingness to use violence to enforce what
> >> should... according to buddha's way, come naturally... your big fat
> >> ass sucking sperm burping mouth monkey does not reflect this...
> >> hitting you will call dwn who? india? i doubt it.
>
> >> fuck off mark. your tagged. why not be a good Jew and rat on other
> >> people. en passant... really...
>
> > You generate enough negative energy to give a blackout to NYC.

>
> > Many people --drivers and idiots-- take away my energy but I gain it
> > these forums.
>

> To be fair to TibetanMonkey, although he displays definite non-Buddhist
> tendencies (and strikes me as one of many people that adopts Buddhism in
> name only because it sounds "cool"), in the name of harmlessness one would
> be better to ride a bike than drive a car. However, that would be a "lesser
> of two evils" decision, because the same reasoning can be used to prefer
> walking to bicycles, which are mass-manufactured and made from aluminum.
>
> tvp

You got a point or two there, but I will apply my infinite wisdom to
the task...

Our cities --90% of America-- are designed around the car. They are
spread out and walking is very difficult. Here it's nearly impossible
due the heat index and unfriendly neighborhoods where dogs emerge
behind fences ready to eat you. OFTEN YOU DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. Then
riding a bike is the obvious solution to travel around your community
and beyond. If aluminum is a concern you may opt for steel. Most cheap
bikes are actually steel. However I were to live in NYC I wouldn't
ride bike. A combination of cold weather, hills and lots of people on
the street would make me join the crowd on foot.

The sprawl has been designed to maximize profit and keep the monkey in
the cage. Lots of wide streets, long distances, no place for bicycling
or walking. I used to walk a lot under these conditions but I have
found the beach cruiser to be the possible tool for the urban jungle.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 6, 7:20 pm, being <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:
> > It's all about having fun, you know.
>
> I can't make that claim.
> Well, I could. But I won't.
>
> It might be all about learning.
> You may have lived many lives.
>
> It might not be all about anything.
> It could be about whatever you make it.
>
> To think there is an it
> to begin with
> and then to think that it
> is about something else
> might be a sort of carving
> of an uncarved block.
>
> Eating can be all about eating.
> Sleeping can be all about sleeping.
> Walking can be all about walking.
>
> To think one eats in order to sleep
> and sleeps in order to walk and walks
> in order to get some food might be a sort
> of a type of thinking that ties portions of all
> together into a series of itself, it being
> all and all.

This is where we disagree. Being hungry and activity are tied up.
Sleep and activity are tied up. If I had any doubts, I confirmed that
in the boondocks. It often happens to me here. I make a decision to go
out and be active and I reap the rewards later.

The combination of being a couch potato and eating too much can kill
you and greatly diminish the quality of life. And when you don't have
a quality of life who cares about being alive.

I know a couple of couch potatoes that are happy like that, but that's
not a model for the world. That's what the system wants so they can
make an extra profit when you get sick.

The TibetanMonkey way, though, is PREVENTION.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 8, 12:26 pm, cycler <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:

> > . wrote:
> >> liaM wrote:
> >> >> . wrote:
> >> >>> TibetanMonkey wrote:
>
> >> >>>> Mind you, not the predator that we find everywhere, but the pet rat
> >> >>>> you can tame easily. I saw this sign at the pet shop that described
> >> >>>> them as "intelligent and curious." That's it, that's the trademark of
> >> >>>> our species too!
>
> >> >>> I thought you were of the troll species.
>
> >> > ... snip
>
> >> > Does what's his name Being@
> >> >seem like a flaming asshole to you, like he or she does to me?
>
> >> Trolls might seek to evoke flames.
> >> And, I'm definitely an asshole, ore cans be.
>
> >The monkey is cleverly making noise.
>
> You once said
> something along the lines
> of how if you didn't provoke
> then you could not evoke.
>
> In other words,
> nobody gave a shit
> about what you were saying
> seeing as how you were crossposting
> into groups for which your crap was off-topic.
>
> You don't appear to quite grasp the concept
> of Usenet, Netiquette, nor what it means to be civil.
>
> You don't appear to be much if at all interested
> in Buddhism, Taoism, nor Australia. Some of the groups
> to which you spam appear to be moribund.
>
> You have been asked to cease and desist.
> Yet you continue. You appear to be of a somewhat
> under-appreciated form of mental behavior pattern.
>
> > He's not denying your path, but
> >new ways are found.
>
> In your delusional world-view.
>
> >> He seems troubled usually. Usually complaining
> >> about SUVs, people spitting in his face, dog-shit,
> >> how bikes can save the world, lotsa stuff.
>
> >Yes, that's part of my reality. I guess it can all be fixed.
>
> That is your delusion.
>
> In order to fix something
> it must first be broken.
>
> > My riding
> >a bike has a bearing on the world.
>
> In your delusion.
>
> > Remember the motto: "Act locally,
> >think globally."
>
> A similar motto is recalled.
>
> From a provincial pov, that may be of use.
> From the pov of an Earthling, that may apply.
>
> In terms of the Galaxy, or the Cosmos,
> in terms of what is Sacred, you tend to be of
> a narrow-minded realm.
>
> >> Do you think being made in the image of God
> >> or Rats has anything to do with absft, apt, az, arbt,
> >> or sca? Do you think people are made, or born?
>
> >> Have you ridden the M-Path?
> >> It is one, in his locale.
>
> >The M-Path? It sounds like a bike path that goes under the train some
> >10 miles from here. Very dangerous at intersections.
>
> In other words, that's a no.
>
> >I want my biographers to record this thought: "The chain is never
> >stronger than the weakest link."
>
> If you ever have any biographers,
> perhaps they will record that thought.
>
> They might note how you were the weakest
> link in your delusional chain of thoughts.
>
> In your weakness, your strength
> may eventually be perfected.
>
> >Sometimes the chain is invisible and you are just sitting in the cage.
>
> In your own mind.
>
> >I got two stationary bikes, similar to the idea of the rat riding a
> >wheel, but no good for the world results.
>
> In your narrow pov.
>
> At least
> in being stationary
> you do not encounter "very dangerous intersections"
> where those evil SUV drivers haunt you and are out to
> destroy the planet.
>
> Nobody spits in your face.
>
> There is no dog-shit, probably.
>
> You dodn't stick a banana in the face of someone.
> You feel no need to wear a monkey mask.
> You reap no bad vibes.
>
> You have nothing to complain about.
>
> The world is a better place
> as long as you are stationary.
>
> > We want to help the world,
> >not hide from the world, right?
>
> I don't know what's on your dog's mind.
>
> If you are in telepathic communion with him
> or her, and you both have some desire to help the world
> and that desire induces some form of odd behavior
> which in turn compels you to crosspost
> troll-species off-topic messages,
> so as to not hide from
> something, then,
> uh, right.
>
> In Taoist terms,
> muddy water tends to remain muddy
> as long as it is continually stirred.
>
> Being stationary, being still,
> allowing the mud to settle
> tends to be the Way.
>
> Even, oddly, when cycling.
>
> "Fifteen
>  The ancient masters were subtle, mysterious, profound, responsive.
>  The depth of their knowledge is unfathomable.
>  Because it is unfathomable,
>  All we can do is describe their appearance.
>  Watchful, like men crossing a winter stream.
>  Alert, like men aware of danger.
>  Courteous, like visiting guests.
>  Yielding like ice about to melt.
>  Simple, like uncarved blocks of wood.
>  Hollow, like caves.
>  Opaque, like muddy pools.
>  Who can wait quietly while the mud settles?
>  Who can remain still until the moment of action?
>  Observers of the Tao do not seek fulfillment.
>  Not seeking fulfillment, they are not swayed by desire for change."
>
> [- Gia Fu Feng]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gia-Fu_Feng
>
> ...

I don't know if you are a Republican, a Christian or both...

To all practical effects you live in denial.

Ask the SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY if there's CLIMATE CHANGE, and tell me
what could be more EFFECTIVE & FUN than riding a bike.

Pity your thoughts are somewhere in the outer space. This spaceship is
in trouble. It's going down because people like you do nothing. And
you try to slow down those who are doing something so you can feel
good.

I hope that's not the stand of most Buddhists. Or Buddha would be
another loser like Jesus.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 8, 9:21 pm, F.K. <foolkille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:29:48 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach

> Redolent of stupidity.
>
> As Gaius Julius Caesar is said to have referred to a fellow member of
> the Roman Senate:
>
> "He is the worst kind of a fool
>         He thinks he is not a fool"

Well, I got everything right so I must be chosen one. But, of course,
Jesus and Buddha came before me, so nobody can say I'm smarter than
them. That's open to interpretation. Perhaps I'm on the same league
with Einstein. He said those inspirational words: "Life's like a
bicycle. You must keep moving not to lose your balance."

Brilliant, simply brilliant.

On Oct 8, 7:22 pm, a <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:

> > cycler wrote:
> >> TibetanMonkey wrote:
> >> > . wrote:
> >> >> liaM wrote:
> >> >> >> . wrote:
> >> >> >>> TibetanMonkey wrote:
>

> >> >> >>>> Mind you, ...

>
> >> >> >>> I thought you were of the troll species.
>
> >> >> > ... snip
>
> >> >> > Does what's his name Being@
> >> >> >seem like a flaming asshole to you, like he or she does to me?
>
> >> >> Trolls might seek to evoke flames.
> >> >> And, I'm definitely an asshole, ore cans be.
>
> >> >The monkey is cleverly making noise.
>

> >> ...
> >> "Fifteen ...

> >>  Who can remain still until the moment of action?
> >>  Observers of the Tao do not seek fulfillment.
> >>  Not seeking fulfillment, they are not swayed by desire for change."

> >> ...
>
> >I don't know if you are a Republican, a Christian or both...
>

> A Taoist, in this group.
>
> Technically, I'm a Green, politically party-wise,
> or unwise, as far as that goes, and may lump myself
> into many categories, including but not limited to
> Christian, Jew, Muslim, Taoist, Buddhist, Hindu,
> athiest, agnostic, syncretist, and w'hat-knot.

>
> >To all practical effects you live in denial.
>

> Eye dew?

>
> >Ask the SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY if there's CLIMATE CHANGE,
>

> There is always climate change.
> But why are you shouting?
> Are you a knuckle-head?
>
> Your planet,
> Earth, is between glacial periods at present.
>
> The inter-glacials tend to be warm spells.
> Another ice age will most likely occur.

>
> > and tell me
> >what could be more EFFECTIVE & FUN than riding a bike.
>

> Depends on your mood I suppose.
> And what you want to effect.
>
> Today I trimmed some trees.
> That was very effective, and fun, for me.
>
> While I cut off a few limbs,
> nobody cut me off nor spit at me.
>
> If you have a yard, you might do yard work.
>
> There are yards surrounding the house
> in which I tend to live and breathe.
> As well as outside.
>
> There is a south-forty
> yards of bamboo in which I find joy.
>
> With yard-play
> there may be some effort at times
> yet it is wu-wei, effortless effort, in ways.
>
> Perhaps you know of wu-wei, eh?

>
> >Pity your thoughts are somewhere in the outer space.
>

> The inner-spaces can be micro-cosmic as well.
> All can be well as well, for turtles and frogs.
>
> Have you read the Chuang-tzu yet?

>
> > This spaceship is in trouble.
>

> Well, there is the Red Giant.
> Not to mention the asteroid.

>
> > It's going down because people like you do nothing.
>

> If everybody did nothing,
>
> fighting would cease immediately.
>
> There would be peace.
>
> Consumption of resources would stop.
>
> Your fear of climate change may change.
>
> Yet you do not advocate doing nothing.
>
> Perhaps your view is backwards.

>
> > And
> >you try to slow down those who are doing something so you can feel
> >good.
>

> You seem to put a bit of spin
> on what you perceive to be what I am doing.
>
> Doing nothing, doing less and less, is said to be Dao.
>
> Why cross-post your do-do
> into a Daoist group
> and then complain
> about Daoism?

>
> >I hope that's not the stand of most Buddhists.
>

> Perhaps if you read some of the Buddhist literature
> you would become acquainted with Buddhist thought.
>
> Desire and suffering might revolve around Truths
> in that frame of reference or world-view.
>
> It's a bit revolutionary, aye, know.
>
> Yet there are many forms.
> Of revolving and knowing.

>
> > Or Buddha would be another loser like Jesus.
>

> I didn't see any Christian groups in the headers, troll.

Oh, don't worry, they are everywhere.
>
> You appear to me to be more akin to Jesus than to Buddha.
>
> Jesus said to pick up your cross and die for the cause.
> That appears to be your message, of revolt.
> And so, you are revolting.
> In various ways.
>
> Buddha notes how your desire is your problem.
> Give up your desire and your problem goes too.
> Problem solved. Easy. Simple. Painless.

When you think about it, I represent the Middle Path between the
roaming Jesus and the sitting Buddha. Jesus is most famous for
roaming, and being rather eccentric about it (on a donkey) and Buddha
for sitting under the tree. Enter the TibetanMonkey, a long bicycle
ride followed by rest (ideally in a hammock under a tree, birds
singing, no nagging neighbors) is as close to Nirvana as you can get.

No pain no gain, is certainly overblown. There's no pain in bicycling
other than that created by those rats behind the wheel. Other than
that bicycling is pure fun. It makes human beings better. They are not
the same predatory drivers they were before.

So the trilogy is something like this: Jesus (pain), Buddha (bliss)
and TibetanMonkey (fun).

Thank you, and may the Sun shine upon you.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 10, 9:22 am, . <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:
> > .  wrote:

> >> TibetanMonkey wrote:
>
> >> > But, of course,
> >> >Jesus and Buddha came before me, so nobody can say I'm smarter than
> >> >them.
>

> >> Your logic is astounding.
>
> >> But, of course, Jesus and Buddha are older
> >> therefore nobody can say you are
> >> taller than them.

>
> >> > That's open to interpretation.
>

> >> It might depend on how tall tall is.

>
> >> > Perhaps I'm on the same league with Einstein.
>

> >> Twenty thousand?

>
> >> > He said those inspirational words: "Life's like a
> >> >bicycle. You must keep moving not to lose your balance."
>
> >> >Brilliant, simply brilliant.
>

> >> If Jesus and Buddha came before Einstein
> >> could nobody say he was smarter than them?
>
> >Well, there were no bicycles back then so nobody says they didn't say
> >something wise about such vehicles. But their followers should use
> >their own common sense once in a while.
>
> >It's all about their followers, you know.
>
> How many followers do you have?

Anyone riding a bike follows me...

I want people who do something. It could be a hiker or anyone roaming
free.

Oh yes, and all animal species --particularly those in the endangered
species-- do support my stand on climate change and habitat loss. They
love my policy that poachers should be treated as terrorists and shot
on the spot (via drone). Crimes against nature will be elevated to
terrorism. Funny those who commit crimes in the name of ecology are
called eco-terrorists, but those who roar their SUVs are considered
role models. Even buying a small fun car (such as a Fiat 500) is a
heroic act as you are likely to die in the first accident with an SUV.
But the true heroes are those quietly and proudly riding a bike or
walking around the world. In a way they too are endangered species.

So my followers outnumber the indifferent majority, product of a
consumer society that flashes SUVs to appeal to the beast inside. Now
they have become enforcers of the law of the jungle. A mundane car
doesn't make you safe from the beasts. The speed camera, an effective
taming device, is resisted with ferocity. Other light cameras are in
place but only to raise revenue. It's all about money.

Jesus would be shocked to find the world like it is. The money
changers would kick him out of the temple. How dare a man on a donkey
challenge the status quo? But he gave hope to the world, perhaps a
false hope. That's why the powerful like him. So long as the herd
thinks he's coming soon, they are not thinking in solutions. They are
not thinking at all.

And the revolution is about solutions and clever thinking, such as
Einstein's.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 9, 9:34 pm, F.K. <foolkille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach

>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 8, 9:21 pm, F.K. <foolkille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:29:48 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>

> Much tripe removed

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >I hope that's not the stand of most Buddhists. Or Buddha would be
> >> >another loser like Jesus.
>
> >> Redolent of stupidity.
>
> >> As Gaius Julius Caesar is said to have referred to a fellow member of
> >> the Roman Senate:
>
> >> "He is the worst kind of a fool
> >>         He thinks he is not a fool"
>
> >Well, I got everything right so I must be chosen one. But, of course,
> >Jesus and Buddha came before me, so nobody can say I'm smarter than
> >them. That's open to interpretation. Perhaps I'm on the same league
> >with Einstein. He said those inspirational words: "Life's like a
> >bicycle. You must keep moving not to lose your balance."
>
> >Brilliant, simply brilliant.
>

> And so typically wrong. Albert never said any such thing. What he did
> write (to his son) was that "Life was like RIDING a bicycle". the act
> of riding not the bicycle itself, as you seem to say.

I wonder what he meant by that. He left it at that? That would make us
think harder to come to the conclusion to that the bike would give us
the balance in life. That's common sense, isn't it?
>
> And Old Albert wasn't exactly correct either as any of our track
> standing experts will also tell you that standing still is perfectly
> possible, while riding a bicycle.
>
> More garbage hauled out to the dumpster

Sure you can walk on your arms too. I've seen it done but it's usually
the legs that make us bipedal.

Have you noticed we are a bipedal species and we naturally pedal a
bike? It couldn't be coincidence. A person may be able to pedal and
not walk naturally. We are always improving on nature.

>
>
>
> >When you think about it, I represent the Middle Path between the
> >roaming Jesus and the sitting Buddha. Jesus is most famous for
> >roaming, and being rather eccentric about it (on a donkey) and Buddha
> >for sitting under the tree. Enter the TibetanMonkey, a long bicycle
> >ride followed by rest (ideally in a hammock under a tree, birds
> >singing, no nagging neighbors) is as close to Nirvana as you can get.
>

> Sitting Buddha? You certainly don't know what you are talking about,
> do you? The Buddha spent most of his life as a teacher traveling.
> For example, in the 12 months after his enlightenment he went from
> Uruvel to Sarnath, back to Uruvel and from there to Rajagaha via Gaya,
> a distance of about 315 kilometres. One of the longest journeys
> mentioned in the Tipitaka has him going from Rajagaha to Savatthi via
> Vesali, and then back to Rajagaha on the alternative route by way of
> Kitagari and Alavi, about 920 kilometres altogether.
>
> As Julian sad - A fool indeed.

True, but he was enlightened under the tree, so people associate him
with the tree. And they paint him fat, just to go with the sitting. A
wanderer could not have been fat.

The best ideas still come while you are moving. I experience bliss in
the hammock under the tree, but not many ideas.

Moving includes paddling a kayak or canoe but not driving. Driving
just makes you an animal.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 10, 11:16 pm, sitsat <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:

> > ... he was enlightened under the tree,
>
> Sitting.

Was he the precursor of couch potatoes?

>
> > so people associate him
> >with the tree.
>

> Sitting.

Do you want to rub it in?

>
> > And they paint him fat,
>

> I think that's a different Buddha.
> Siddhartha was one. There were many.

Many Buddhas... Can you follow anyone in particular? One was a
wandering philosopher, the other a sitting philosopher.

>
> > just to go with the sitting. A
> >wanderer could not have been fat.
>

> I think the fat guy wandered too.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budai

That belly tells of a sedentary life. There's cause and effect between
walking and no belly.

>
> >The best ideas still come while you are moving.
>

> Except Siddhartha had his sitting.

Yes, it's possible.

>
> Maybe when you say you, you mean you.
> Your best ideas come while you are moving.
>
> You might mean to say,
> "My best ideas come while I am moving"
> but for some reason you externalize
> and generalize in a strange way.

"I THOUGHT ABOUT IT WHILE RIDING A BIKE"

Guess who it is. Yes, it's Einstein referring to the Theory of
Relativity. He must have placed emphasis on the fact that he was
moving and keeping his balance.

And I tend to agree with that.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 10, 9:15 pm, F.K. <foolkille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:24:40 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach

> I expect that he meant much the same as Satchel Page who said, "don't
> look back; they may be gaining on you", and all the other
> non-sequiturs that people use to make their conversation more
> interesting.

Maybe other people were right as well. JFK and others quote about
bikes for a reason. There must something in it that makes you better.

>
> As for bicycles giving us a balance in life, Lance Armstrong once
> wrote, "It's not about the bike".

I guess "It's all about the ego"...

"Either way, it serves up the most detailed, unflinching portrayal yet
of Armstrong as a man who would pay virtually any price — financially,
emotionally and physically — to win the seven Tour de France titles
that the anti-doping agency has ordered taken away."

http://news.yahoo.com/armstrong-report-includes-200-pages-26-witnesses-084921954--spt.html

But the Wise Man must be humble. He should not pursue medal or honors,
just try to have fun and speak the truth. That's why there are
different species of cyclists and we "mundane practical cyclists" have
nothing in common with elite cyclists. Yes, there are lions and
monkeys in the cycling world as well. Perhaps the elite riders strap
their fancy bikes to the SUV and go somewhere to train. Texas is not
known for being friendly to cyclists. Funny Armstrong comes from
there. But now we know all there's to be known. It's all a farce.

I hear people are respected while riding a bike in France. That's all
that counts.

>
> >> And Old Albert wasn't exactly correct either as any of our track
> >> standing experts will also tell you that standing still is perfectly
> >> possible, while riding a bicycle.
>
> >> More garbage hauled out to the dumpster
>
> >Sure you can walk on your arms too. I've seen it done but it's usually
> >the legs that make us bipedal.
>
> >Have you noticed we are a bipedal species and we naturally pedal a
> >bike? It couldn't be coincidence. A person may be able to pedal and
> >not walk naturally. We are always improving on nature.
>

> Your remarks seem very strange. After all people have to learn to ride
> a bicycle. Apparently it isn't a natural aptitude.

People learn things and yet they feel perfectly natural. The Internet
is a great example of it.

Notice the equation of life: "X hours on Internet" + "Y hours on bike
or foot"= HAPPINESS.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >When you think about it, I represent the Middle Path between the
> >> >roaming Jesus and the sitting Buddha. Jesus is most famous for
> >> >roaming, and being rather eccentric about it (on a donkey) and Buddha
> >> >for sitting under the tree. Enter the TibetanMonkey, a long bicycle
> >> >ride followed by rest (ideally in a hammock under a tree, birds
> >> >singing, no nagging neighbors) is as close to Nirvana as you can get.
>
> >> Sitting Buddha? You certainly don't know what you are talking about,
> >> do you? The Buddha spent most of his life as a teacher traveling.
> >> For example, in the 12 months after his enlightenment he went from
> >> Uruvel to Sarnath, back to Uruvel and from there to Rajagaha via Gaya,
> >> a distance of about 315 kilometres. One of the longest journeys
> >> mentioned in the Tipitaka has him going from Rajagaha to Savatthi via
> >> Vesali, and then back to Rajagaha on the alternative route by way of
> >> Kitagari and Alavi, about 920 kilometres altogether.
>
> >> As Julian sad - A fool indeed.
>
> >True, but he was enlightened under the tree, so people associate him
> >with the tree. And they paint him fat, just to go with the sitting. A
> >wanderer could not have been fat.
>

> They depict him in many ways but if you think that the typical image
> of the Buddha is fat see:http://www.google.com/search?q=statues+of+the+buddha&hl=en&prmd=imvns...
> The majority show an individual of normal proportions.

I've been forced to sit on my ass for 3 months and my waistline
doesn't lie. "Hey, TibetanMonkey" --talking to myself-- "get on the
bike and go!"

>
> Perhaps you prefer being struck by lightening while on the road to
> Damascus to contemplation sitting under a tree? But apparently the
> Buddhists don't as they usually depict the Buddha as standing, sitting
> or lying. Not simply sitting under a tree.
>
> Your problem is that you talk of what you don't understand and are too
> foolish to learn about your subject before you expound. As I said, a
> fool who doesn't comprehend that he is a fool.

I'm learning but I'm mostly right so you must be learning at a faster
rate.

>
>
>
> >The best ideas still come while you are moving. I experience bliss in
> >the hammock under the tree, but not many ideas.
>

> You simply demonstrate your shortcomings. Apparently you don't
> understand the word "contemplation".

Contemplation means putting your neurons to sleep. It's not what a
creative mind needs. It needs a nice soft workout --unlike the pro
cyclists-- to stimulate his brain with sights and situations.

>
>
>
> >Moving includes paddling a kayak or canoe but not driving. Driving
> >just makes you an animal.
>

> Are you sure of what you say? Can you demonstrate that "fact"? Is it
> that every individual that drives an automobile becomes an animal or
> is that a shortcoming that only you posses?

We are all animals. But they got the power to "eat" another. That's
predation.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 11, 5:06 pm, sitsat <sat@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:

> > sitsat wrote:
> >> TibetanMonkey wrote:
>
> >> > ... he was enlightened under the tree,
>
> >> Sitting.
>
> >Was he the precursor of couch potatoes?
>

> I don't know if he cursed.
> Nor what he did before that,
> if he did that.
>
> One story said he did not blink.
> Cursors tend to blink. Precursors,
> I don't know, if they blinked.
>
> You can, of course, naturally
> or perhaps unnaturally, make up your own
> version of whatever story you misquote from.

He may have been a couch potato without a TV and that's a big
difference with the modern couch potato, absorbing all those talk
shows and violent movies.

So it's OK to sit down to meditate and rest --after a long journey.

>
> >> > so people associate him
> >> >with the tree.
>

> >> Sitting.
>
> >Do you want to rub it in?
>

> Rub what in?
> That what you made up, your make up,
> is a strange blend of blends of stuff?

Rub that he was sitting. The tree is important though. The tree has
LOTS OF ENERGY.

>
> >> > And they paint him fat,
>

> >> I think that's a different Buddha.
> >> Siddhartha was one. There were many.
>
> >Many Buddhas... Can you follow anyone in particular?
>

> I suppose I could, were I to care to.
> That would be a supposition however.

>
> > One was a
> >wandering philosopher, the other a sitting philosopher.
>

> Somebody said the sitting guy walked a lot too.

>
> >> > just to go with the sitting. A
> >> >wanderer could not have been fat.
>

> >> I think the fat guy wandered too.
>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budai
>
> >That belly tells of a sedentary life. There's cause and effect between
> >walking and no belly.
>

> Your presumption has many presuptions
> hidden inside of its belly.
>
> There are little quanta of energy that loom large
> often known as calories. If one absorbes more
> than one burns, a belly full of joy may grow.
>
> The wandering fat Buddhas perhaps walked slow,
> for they were, perhaps, not in any hurry, having,
> presumably, nowhere to get to in particular.
>
> Walking slow, they used less energy.
> Using less energy, they conserved energy
> which they used to laugh, and give toys to tots.

>
> >> >The best ideas still come while you are moving.
>

> >> Except Siddhartha had his sitting.
>
> >Yes, it's possible.
>

> There may be a Laughing Buddha within you
> as well as the ascetic starving one.
>
> Buddha nature.
> You've herds of it?

>
> >> Maybe when you say you, you mean you.
> >> Your best ideas come while you are moving.
>
> >> You might mean to say,
> >> "My best ideas come while I am moving"
> >> but for some reason you externalize
> >> and generalize in a strange way.
>
> >"I THOUGHT ABOUT IT WHILE RIDING A BIKE"
>

> About sitting?

Let's take "sitting" and analyze it. How many ideas have seen the
light while sitting under the tree? How many while riding a bike? How
many while sitting on the toilet? If one were to come up with a great
idea while sitting on the toilet would still be worth consideration?
Will the toilet itself become an object of veneration? A toilet has no
energy but more people sit on it at any given time than under a tree.
Sitting on the bike while pedaling though gives you balance and the
necessary exercise to keep the body healthy. That was the intention of
Einstein.

Something to ponder about: Before the toilet, people squatted. Did
they still come up with great ideas? I don't think they were
comfortable enough to take the time to think. Thinking takes moderate
comfort or SLOW MOVEMENT. And I tend to agree with that. Beach cruiser
philosophy in motion.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 11, 8:33 pm, F.K. <foolkille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:46:11 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach

>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 10, 9:15 pm, F.K. <foolkille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:24:40 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>

> More snipped

>
> >I guess "It's all about the ego"...
>
> >"Either way, it serves up the most detailed, unflinching portrayal yet
> >of Armstrong as a man who would pay virtually any price financially,
> >emotionally and physically to win the seven Tour de France titles
> >that the anti-doping agency has ordered taken away."
>

> Oh! I must have been mistaken. I always though that the Tour de France
> was a French race, sponsored by and managed by a French agency.
>
> How in the world can a U.S. agency take away titles issued by a French
> agency?
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/armstrong-report-includes-200-pages-26-witnesse...
>
> I read part of the supposed testimony. Some from a guy that apparently
> Armstrong kicked off the team, another that has written a book and
> getting some publicity that has obviously helped book sales. At which
> time I ignored the rest as it is obvious that the US Doping Agency is
> willing to go to any lengths. I didn't see any mention of the hundreds
> of tests that Armstrong took and passed. It seemed pretty one sided to
> me.

Read again. His own GF exposed him.

>
> >But the Wise Man must be humble. He should not pursue medal or honors,
> >just try to have fun and speak the truth. That's why there are
> >different species of cyclists and we "mundane practical cyclists" have
> >nothing in common with elite cyclists. Yes, there are lions and
> >monkeys in the cycling world as well. Perhaps the elite riders strap
> >their fancy bikes to the SUV and go somewhere to train. Texas is not
> >known for being friendly to cyclists. Funny Armstrong comes from
> >there. But now we know all there's to be known. It's all a farce.
>

> I see... humble? Posting half heard "facts" as truths?

They are subject to interpretation. According to some they are fixing
the streets around here, according to me they are dumping money down
the drain without fixing anything. Actually those "landscape
triangles" by the corners are a trap for cars and bicycles.

>
> >I hear people are respected while riding a bike in France. That's all
> >that counts.
>

> Why not move to France then?

Don't speak the language is a good reason.

>
>
>
> >> >> And Old Albert wasn't exactly correct either as any of our track
> >> >> standing experts will also tell you that standing still is perfectly
> >> >> possible, while riding a bicycle.
>
> >> >> More garbage hauled out to the dumpster
>
> >> >Sure you can walk on your arms too. I've seen it done but it's usually
> >> >the legs that make us bipedal.
>

> What does this have to do with Albert Einstein?

>
> >> >Have you noticed we are a bipedal species and we naturally pedal a
> >> >bike? It couldn't be coincidence. A person may be able to pedal and
> >> >not walk naturally. We are always improving on nature.
>

> Except that we don't "naturally pedal..." If you read this site,
> rather then just posting here you would have learned that many
> practice and practice to perfect their pedaling. apparently not
> "natural".

Just because they are perfectionists. It works beautiful for me on my
flip flops. Right, that's the beach cruiser style.

>
> >> Your remarks seem very strange. After all people have to learn to ride
> >> a bicycle. Apparently it isn't a natural aptitude.
>
> >People learn things and yet they feel perfectly natural. The Internet
> >is a great example of it.
>

> What utter tripe. People learn to jump out of airplanes too although
> they never learn to feel it is a natural act.

>
> >Notice the equation of life: "X hours on Internet" + "Y hours on bike
> >or foot"= HAPPINESS.
>

> >> >True, but he was enlightened under the tree, so people associate him
> >> >with the tree. And they paint him fat, just to go with the sitting. A

> >> >wanderer could not have been fat.
>

> >> They depict him in many ways but if you think that the typical image
> >> of the Buddha is fat see:http://www.google.com/search?q=statues+of+the+buddha&hl=en&prmd=imvns...
> >> The majority show an individual of normal proportions.
>
> >I've been forced to sit on my ass for 3 months and my waistline
> >doesn't lie. "Hey, TibetanMonkey" --talking to myself-- "get on the
> >bike and go!"
>

> What? Broken leg? How else were you "forced to sit on your ass"? Or is
> than just a figure of speech to allude to inertia?

You must have forgotten:

I landed on the boondocks in Upstate New York and there was nothing to
do. No place to walk, ride a bike or even hike. I went on my computer
and screamed: "Do not live in the boondocks!"

How can anyone forget that.

>
>
>
> >> Your problem is that you talk of what you don't understand and are too
> >> foolish to learn about your subject before you expound. As I said, a
> >> fool who doesn't comprehend that he is a fool.
>
> >I'm learning but I'm mostly right so you must be learning at a faster
> >rate.
>

> I see. But who tells you that you are right? Or do you just nod your
> head wisely and say "Oh Monkey, how wise you are"? Self gratification?

I try to be accurate with too much ego. "Monkey" itself is a humble
title. Powerful people associate themselves with predators.

>
>
>
> >> Are you sure of what you say? Can you demonstrate that "fact"? Is it
> >> that every individual that drives an automobile becomes an animal or
> >> is that a shortcoming that only you posses?

> > snipped

> >We are all animals. But they got the power to "eat" another. That's
> >predation.
>

> I see. And who do you eat?

I eat pork, chicken and my GF.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 12, 6:07 pm, cycler <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:

> > F.K. wrote:

> >> TibetanMonkey wrote:
> >> >> >Have you noticed we are a bipedal species and we naturally pedal a
> >> >> >bike? It couldn't be coincidence.
>

> It probably has to do with how people
> designed pedals.
>
> Pedals don't naturally grow on trees.
> They grow on bikes, naturally, of course.
>
> A light-switch may, naturally, be found
> at just the right height to make it easy
> to turn on and off the lights. It's a miracle!
>
> Could it be a coincidence?
> Intelligent design? Evolution?

Think so? Tell people to design a bike for an elephant (assuming they
are smart enough to ride) and see what they come with. There's
something about the proportions and geometry of the human body that
lends itself to be pedaled. Monkey too, of course. Could it be
coincidence? Proof of evolution?
>
> And, electricity, it naturally lights up.
> Have you noticed we have eyes?
> And we naturally see?
>
> Amazing!
>
> Logic can be fun.

Wait, hold it right there. We age and our eyes become no good and we
put on glasses and voila! I'm young again!

It just proves I'm right. We can improve on nature.

>
> >> >> > A person may be able to pedal and
> >> >> >not walk naturally.
>

> When you say naturally
> you appear to be referring to a style.
> A smooth stride. Something like that.

Yeah, we became bipedal in order to save energy, that's why. Our
quadruped relatives spend much more energy roaming around. It's
natural that we take advantage of the bicycle.

SUVs are unnatural because they waste energy. Nature is wise. It put
an end to the dinosaurs.

>
> The gait, or pattern of movement
> during locomotion over a solid substrate.

Try "racewalking" for a gait that makes sense. You'll see regular
walking as clumsy and painfully slow.

>
> >> >> > We are always improving on nature.
>
> >> Except that we don't "naturally pedal..." If you read this site,
> >> rather then just posting here you would have learned that many
> >> practice and practice to perfect their pedaling. apparently not
> >> "natural".
>
> >Just because they are perfectionists. It works beautiful for me on my
> >flip flops. Right, that's the beach cruiser style.
>

> That's because your flip-flops are so natural.
> It's, like, you woke up one morning and there they were,
> having magically appeared on your feet.

It took years of trial and error to come up with the lightest, coolest
shoes around and now they work awesome in combination with my beach
cruiser. Walking is just not that important.

>
> >> >> Your remarks seem very strange. After all people have to learn to ride
> >> >> a bicycle. Apparently it isn't a natural aptitude.
>
> >> >People learn things and yet they feel perfectly natural. The Internet
> >> >is a great example of it.
>

> Lots of people can't get the hang of a computer.
> Surfing might feel perfectly natural to some folks
> while others could be afraid of the water.
>
> >> What utter tripe.
>
> Tripe is a specialty of the house.
> Usually the Monkey serves the rumen, reticulum
> and omasum because he's so awesosum.

>
> >> >I've been forced to sit on my ass for 3 months and my waistline
> >> >doesn't lie. "Hey, TibetanMonkey" --talking to myself-- "get on the
> >> >bike and go!"
>
> >> What? Broken leg? How else were you "forced to sit on your ass"? Or is
> >> than just a figure of speech to allude to inertia?
>
> >You must have forgotten:
>
> >I landed on the boondocks in Upstate New York and there was nothing to
> >do. No place to walk, ride a bike or even hike. I went on my computer
> >and screamed: "Do not live in the boondocks!"
>
> >How can anyone forget that.
>

> You have probably experience more trauma
> than you care to remember.
>
> Possibly one of them is why you are obsessed
> and compelled to do many of the things you do
> plus to think as you think and say what you say.
>
> Your diminished mental capacity may stem from it.
> You might try therapy, in all your humility.

I could have gone into the Buddhist retreat and become a new man. But
I don't know how much it could that have been. I have to see the rates
bringing my own tent. I'm a monkey with limited resources, comprende?

>
> >> >> Your problem is that you talk of what you don't understand and are too
> >> >> foolish to learn about your subject before you expound. As I said, a
> >> >> fool who doesn't comprehend that he is a fool.
>
> >> >I'm learning but I'm mostly right so you must be learning at a faster
> >> >rate.
>
> >> I see. But who tells you that you are right? Or do you just nod your
> >> head wisely and say "Oh Monkey, how wise you are"? Self gratification?
>
> >I try to be accurate with too much ego.
>

> Perhaps you have ADD, ADHD, or some other
> brain pattern that keeps you from success.

Success? What is success for a Wise Man? The Truth, Space, a woman, a
dog? Anything but money!

>
> > "Monkey" itself is a humble
> >title. Powerful people associate themselves with predators.
>

> What do humble people associate themselves with?
> Being humble? That would be a sign of not being humble.

My humble opinion is that I'm the humblest man alive, but that's
subject to interpretation.
>
> If you think you are humble, you aren't.
>
> Perhaps you are not trying to be accurate
> or maybe you have too much ego and it
> gets in the way of your humility.
>
> Not to mention, wisdom.

Ask yourself how much you have learned from me. I'm willing to learn
from you. I'll shop around for a good Buddhist retreat. It must be
affordable, remember.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 12, 9:06 pm, F.K. <foolkille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:48:31 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach

> Present wife? Or someone he ditched?
> What is the quote? "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"?

There's volume of evidence. Try closing your eyes but it won't go
away.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >But the Wise Man must be humble. He should not pursue medal or honors,
> >> >just try to have fun and speak the truth. That's why there are
> >> >different species of cyclists and we "mundane practical cyclists" have
> >> >nothing in common with elite cyclists. Yes, there are lions and
> >> >monkeys in the cycling world as well. Perhaps the elite riders strap
> >> >their fancy bikes to the SUV and go somewhere to train. Texas is not
> >> >known for being friendly to cyclists. Funny Armstrong comes from
> >> >there. But now we know all there's to be known. It's all a farce.
>
> >> I see... humble? Posting half heard "facts" as truths?
>
> >They are subject to interpretation. According to some they are fixing
> >the streets around here, according to me they are dumping money down
> >the drain without fixing anything. Actually those "landscape
> >triangles" by the corners are a trap for cars and bicycles.
>

> How would you know? Are you a civil engineer? Or have you spent a
> lifetime repairing roads?
>
> Or just a fool spouting spurious "facts"?

I know, because there's no improvement whatsoever. You can either
break your car's axle or you can hit it with your bike and break your
neck. There's plenty of stupid design like that around here, including
the bike lanes that never connect. I can say they are a "trap" rather
than a safe place to be. All of sudden bike lanes appear and disappear
and then have a mysterious sign that says "bike may take full lane."
Of course, nobody is that fool to do it with the worst drivers in
America. Or they may appear in the middle of blind curve where drivers
customarily go full blast. I can show you a particular spot (thanks to
Google maps) where this is plain suicidal. Never, ever I've seen a
cyclist take advantage of such "bike facilities" that invite trouble.

>
>
>
> >> >I hear people are respected while riding a bike in France. That's all
> >> >that counts.
>
> >> Why not move to France then?
>
> >Don't speak the language is a good reason.
>

> Well, if you can't go to France why mention them as whatever it is the
> French do or not do has no effect on your life.

Perhaps we can learn from a socialist nation. They have learned better
road manners in such system, I hear. They even pass on the left as it
customary in every other civilized nation (except the UK, where they
pass on the right).

>
>  >> >> More garbage hauled out to the dumpster
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >> >Sure you can walk on your arms too. I've seen it done but it's usually
> >> >> >the legs that make us bipedal.
>
> >> What does this have to do with Albert Einstein?
>
> >> >> >Have you noticed we are a bipedal species and we naturally pedal a
> >> >> >bike? It couldn't be coincidence. A person may be able to pedal and
> >> >> >not walk naturally. We are always improving on nature.
>
> >> Except that we don't "naturally pedal..." If you read this site,
> >> rather then just posting here you would have learned that many
> >> practice and practice to perfect their pedaling. apparently not
> >> "natural".
>
> >Just because they are perfectionists. It works beautiful for me on my
> >flip flops. Right, that's the beach cruiser style.
>

> I see, you simply leaped on the bike and rode off into the sunset...
> on your first attempt? Or are you still on "training wheels"?

That's how my daughter learned. I gave her a push and she rode off.
But she got my genes.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >> Your remarks seem very strange. After all people have to learn to ride
> >> >> a bicycle. Apparently it isn't a natural aptitude.
>
> >> >People learn things and yet they feel perfectly natural. The Internet
> >> >is a great example of it.
>
> >> What utter tripe. People learn to jump out of airplanes too although
> >> they never learn to feel it is a natural act.
>
> >> >Notice the equation of life: "X hours on Internet" + "Y hours on bike
> >> >or foot"= HAPPINESS.
>
> >> >> >True, but he was enlightened under the tree, so people associate him
> >> >> >with the tree. And they paint him fat, just to go with the sitting. A
> >> >> >wanderer could not have been fat.
>
> >> >> They depict him in many ways but if you think that the typical image
> >> >> of the Buddha is fat see:http://www.google.com/search?q=statues+of+the+buddha&hl=en&prmd=imvns...
> >> >> The majority show an individual of normal proportions.
>
> >> >I've been forced to sit on my ass for 3 months and my waistline
> >> >doesn't lie. "Hey, TibetanMonkey" --talking to myself-- "get on the
> >> >bike and go!"
>
> >> What? Broken leg? How else were you "forced to sit on your ass"? Or is
> >> than just a figure of speech to allude to inertia?
>
> >You must have forgotten:
>
> >I landed on the boondocks in Upstate New York and there was nothing to
> >do. No place to walk, ride a bike or even hike. I went on my computer
> >and screamed: "Do not live in the boondocks!"
>

> Your story may be true in your case, however people do walk about in
> even the most remote northern reaches of the state and likely also
> ride bicycles. The fact that you don't/didn't seems due either to your
> oft mentioned fear of automobiles or inertia.... or perhaps exciting
> TV cartoons.

My point is that you needed a car to get somewhere where you could
hike or ride a bike. Isn't that the reality for 90% of Americans?

>
> >How can anyone forget that.

> >I try to be accurate with too much ego. "Monkey" itself is a humble
> >title. Powerful people associate themselves with predators.
>

> You obviously have never been around monkeys. They stink.

See, your opinion is biased. Some monkeys in Japan go in the warm pool
and they probably don't stink more than humans without deodorant.

Notice, deodorant is a human creation. I'm pretty sure the cavemen of
the human species were on a par with the skunks.

>
> >> >We are all animals. But they got the power to "eat" another. That's
> >> >predation.
>
> >> I see. And who do you eat?
>
> >I eat pork, chicken and my GF.
>

> So you are no different then those in the big, black, SUV's.

Way better that big, black SUVs: I make love not war, and I only eat
pork and chicken, something I'm willing to give up for the good of the
planet.

I only need a good vegetarian cook, such as those found in the
Buddhist camps.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 14, 8:06 pm, halfadozen <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:

> > while I dream of a better world.
>
> Dreaming can be fun.
> It's kinda like wishful thinking.

Not really. Dreaming of a better world is a calculated planning of
Utopia. A world where people don't need to go into Buddhist camps. Of
course, the whole world will be a Buddhist camp.

>
> > Perfectly
> >natural for a revolutionary turned philosopher. My job is to change
> >the world.
>
> How's the pay for being revolting?
> Do you reap many unanticipated rewards?

Lots of fun. Remember, it's all about fun.

> >> You might try and fix, or "improve" your corners.
> >> The ones you claim are dangerous.
>
> >They are a waste of money, usually the product of corruption.
>
> Maybe if you dream and wish enough
> they will magically transform into something
> more new and more "improved" along the way.

No need. I'm riding my insignia bike that reads "Revolutions for the
Planet." I did a lot of revolutions yesterday in the real world.

>
> >I have bumped before into stupid objects that nobody cared to make
> >visible. I don't like to bump the same rock twice.
>
> Then why keep on doing it?

Because you must find the perfect path along the way.

>
> >In my country we have this saying that translates as `a donkey in
> >general does not bump into the same rock twice`...
>
> Too bad your not a donkey in general.
> Are you, like, a donkey in major?
> Or more of a donkey in private?

I'm sort of DonkeyXote. That doesn't make a funny character. Remember,
Jesus himself chose to ride a donkey.

> >They only increased the profits not the convenience. That's the idea
> >behind a driving everywhere. No options allowed.
>
> So much for improving things
> and trying to make them better.

Their idea has never been to "improve things," just to maximize the
profit.

That's why everything comes out wrong.

>
> At least by dreaming you are ineffective.

Again, I ride a bike in between dreams.

>
> That way you don't have as many unanticipated
> consequences to complain about later.

I must complain about it so people become enlightened.

> >And now we driving big SUVs at 80mph. Yeah, that makes you a top
> >predator.
>
> All in the name of improving the world.
>
> I don't understand why you say "we driving"
> unless you are allowing your dog to drive too.

"We" as a society, "you" like anyone doing it. There's no escape from
personal responsibility. My dog and I ride a bike S-L-O-W-L-Y as
Buddha would.

>
> But driving at 80mph, for a dog, might be
> to exceed the recommended max.
>
> And then, in the next sentence you change
> pronouns from "we" to "you" which makes
> little sense to me.

Nothing that I say makes sense to you. Don't let the grammar block the
path to great ideas.

>
> How did your "we driving" turn into "you"
> by which you might or might not mean you,
> or maybe somebody else, being a top predator?
>
> You and your dog (your "we) by driving your SUV
> at 80mph, turns you both into one in some way?
> And that one is externalized as a you?
> As being someone else, not we?
>
> You could try to learn English

Yes, I can try. But you make it so long and boring that I make some
mistakes along the way.

> or you could dream about it.

Funny that you use a technique called "prayers" that is just as
ineffective.

>
> >> In the jungle
> >> it's not easy to run.
>
> >> On the open savannas, running
> >> can open up new "improved" techniques.
>
> >> That might seem good
> >> until an SUV is invented and then folks
> >> such as you are left in the dust.
>
> >The SUV doesn't leave the car or the bicycle obsolete.
>
> Only in the dust,
> from what I gather, in your town.

You need one to negotiate all the digging going up in town. You need
one to run over the obstacles they have placed everywhere.

>
> >It just rules by fear.
>
> You seem to live in fear quite a bit.

Fear of horns, fear of fights, fear of stress, fear of close calls...

But not fear of death itself.
>
> Why make that part of your dream?
>
> Are you having a dream
> or is your dream having you?

I've realized this is a nightmare. And the dinosaur is still there.

> >Never mind. It's called ROLLING RESISTANCE. The more friction the
> >slower you go.
>
> Then an SUV should be very slow.
> Those big tire and heavy body should keep it
> from being faster than a bike or a trike.
>
> Maybe horses have something to do with it.
> I've heard they actually leave the ground while running.
> I think I've actually seen it, on television. Maybe.

300hp means they got 300 horses, but I'm not even one. I must push my
trike so much harder than a bike. But it's a lot of fun. I feel like a
kid again.
>
> >Bipedals save energy over quadrupeds but it's not called the same.
>
> I imagine a cow saves more energy.
> A cow sorta just stand around and mows a lot.
> Saves plenty of energy by not riding on two wheels.
>
> Riding on two wheels, now that I think about it,
> seems like a total waste of energy. Could be fun tho.
> Not all waste is bad. Some can be like shit.
> Some shit is better than others.

Get your info straight. Riding on two wheels is the most frugal way to
go.
>
> > God never thought of wheels.
>
> Why not?

I don't think God has a very high IQ. He made Adam & Eve after all.

>
> > I wonder why.

Adam & Eve could have been riding bikes and having fun in the Garden
of Eden instead of taking a bite at the Forbidden Fruit out of pure
boredom. I can relate to that after being in the boondocks with
nothing to do.

You can only make love there. But you get tired of it as well. How
much time did Adam & Eve spend making love?

>
> Well, maybe God did think of wheels
> and, seeing as how God knows everything,
> knows exactly all about wheels, and everything.
>
> I think maybe you've not read God's book.
> Even if you haven't, maybe you've heard of Ezekiel.

I would not trust anyone with that name. The prophets are known to
make up stories.

>
> Apparently are Chariots of Fire
> that have wheels within wheels on them.
>
> You might like this one.
>
> http://www.hisemissary.com/ezekiel/wheels.jpg

That's the "beast on wheels," huh? It must an SUV. Satan drives a
black SUV with tinted windows so nobody can tell it's him.

>
> The heavens are akin to a wheel.
> Season turn, cycle, and recycle.
>
> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap010101.html
>
> > He could have given us wings,
> >but he saved them for the angels.
>
> Ever fly in your dreams?
> Ever flee? In your soup?

Fly in the soup? It sounds unappetizing.

> >You are doing a great effort to slow me down...
>
> Ever try snipping between comments?

I'm a sniper but not snipper. Snipers are a great metaphor for those
who save their words for maximum effect.
>
> >Here's the reality though: MAN IS THE GREAT WANDERER. The monkey came
> >out of Africa and went to the four corners of the world. It even
> >navigated there on kayaks, canoes and logs.
>
> >You can not deny that to the human being.
>
> I would not want to.

Well, thank you. 90% of people don't have a choice to walk or ride a
bike for practical uses.

>
> Actually, I figure if you and your kind
> do not get off the planet, you will eventually
> be consumed by your Red Giant. Unless, naturally,
> an asteriod kills your species first.

I told you. The Big Pink Pussy will take care of the Red Giant.
>
> The SUV and petrol age is just a phase.
> You are the one who wants to "improve" things.

So it would be WWIII. A necessary phase to improve new weapons.

>
> > That's more essential than
> >food. Your "solution" though may come handy for one you are in prison.
>
> If for one I am in prison, what's for two and three?

You bring your relatives, that's all. I think prisoners should be
allowed to have visitation rights. Or prostitutes, whatever.

>
> You were the one complaining about getting fat,
> as if you were tied to a couch and fed potatoes
> until they were exiting out your knows.

So you are OK with being fat? Only if you follow a sitting Buddha. But
he must have been a wanderer, or he wasn't wise at all.

>
> >That's what they do in the cage when there's no place to go. I got my
> >stationary bikes but they are sitting there and I'm sitting here.
> >That's no solution under the Wisdom of the Jungle.
>
> Why not try riding them for a spell?
>
> You could move without moving
> and maybe dream of ways to improve.

I would be like a mouse, turning the wheel but going no where.

Our masters can do better.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

(Most mortals would get bored by such tirades, so I trimmed it to be
enlightening yet fun)

On Oct 15, 9:38 pm, sixofone <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:

> > halfadozen wrote:

> >> TibetanMonkey wrote:

> >No need. I'm riding my insignia bike that reads "Revolutions for the
> >Planet." I did a lot of revolutions yesterday in the real world.
>

> Sounds revolting enough for one day.

You fight a revolution the way you live life: one day at a time.

Essentially life and revolution are the same thing.

>
> Did you offend many people while riding
> your insignia bike with what it says?

They are offended by anyone that slows them down. The rat race is all
about speed.
>
> Get spit at, run off the road, that sort of thing?
> Were you wearing your monkey mask too?

No mask. I don't want to intimidate them.

> You might seek some help for that
> if you care to "improve" yourself and the world.

I recommend that you don't listen to Beethoven's 9th. He was crazy but
geniuses generally give a shit about what people think. They just
create their masterpiece and let the world figure it out.

>
> >> >In my country we have this saying that translates as `a donkey in
> >> >general does not bump into the same rock twice`...
>

> >> Too bad you're not a donkey in general.

> >> Are you, like, a donkey in major?
> >> Or more of a donkey in private?
>
> >I'm sort of DonkeyXote. That doesn't make a funny character. Remember,
> >Jesus himself chose to ride a donkey.
>

> On a foal, as the story goes.
> Why don't you get one and ride that?
> Then you can be near a donkey in general
> if not one in fact.

I plan to ride one with a sign that says, "Kiss my Ass!"

Did you forget about that one? Do you have a sense of humor? People
who don't have a sense of humor are sad all the time.
>
> If you've ever read the Bible, you may recall Balaam.
>
> Here's a link, if you're interested.
>
> http://www.biblenews1.com/balaam/balaam.htm

Not now. Those stories are for retarded kids.

>
> >> >They only increased the profits not the convenience. That's the idea
> >> >behind a driving everywhere. No options allowed.
>
> >> So much for improving things
> >> and trying to make them better.
>
> >Their idea has never been to "improve things," just to maximize the
> >profit.
>

> By not fixing the corners
> their profits are somehow maximized?

Exactly, the profit is in them destroying and then building. That's
the idea behind "nation building" put in practice in Iraq.

>
> >That's why everything comes out wrong.
>

> The capitalist system has its drawbacks
> as do all systems. Especially in terms of empire.
>
> However, non-profit socialist systems may not induce
> as much innovation as individualistic capitalistic for profit
> systems have been known to do.

Who says you want a non profit system? Even the Buddhist monks are
there for profit.

> >I must complain about it so people become enlightened.
>

> So far, have you made any "progress"?
> Have you "improved" any roads, or yourself,
> along the way?

I can only play the music. The listener will have to face the music.

> > There's no escape from
> >personal responsibility. My dog and I ride a bike S-L-O-W-L-Y as
> >Buddha would.
>

> Walking slowly might be even better.
> That way you could avoid many problems.

Walking slowly may be good for the Tibetan mountains but not for the
American sprawl. Unless you want to become a hobo and push a shopping
cart.

>
> But you seem to be a problem-magnet of sorts.
> You ride your bike where you know it's dangerous
> on roads not designed for bikes, and complain.

I ride a bike where I must ride a bike. I could ride a donkey, but the
grass is not readily available. And the shit... Well, that's another
issue. More shit for my community which is already full of shit.

> >Fear of horns, fear of fights, fear of stress, fear of close calls...
>

> Yes. Plenty of fear.
> Paranoia might be the next level.

The Wise Man avoids conflict. I've found a Paradise which is about 1
square mile where I can roam free. It's a big park by local standards.
We must drive over 20 miles but we find space away from the rat race.

Tell us what kind of driving you do. Are you a big predator or small
one? You know, this park reminds of the African savannah. Paradise
must not have predators.

[TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher]

On Oct 17, 5:52 pm, halfadozen <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:
> >(Most mortals would get bored by such tirades, so I trimmed it to be
> >enlightening yet fun)

> >Walking slowly may be good for the Tibetan mountains but not for the
> >American sprawl. Unless you want to become a hobo and push a shopping
> >cart.
>

> You figure riding a slow bike on a fast highway
> is a better way to offend people.

They are offended because we happen to be on top of each other. But
there's no need for that. We all should have our own space, be it a
bike lane or a full traffic lane, which is what I promote.
>
> And then,
> not wanting to take responsibility for that,
> you figure it's all the fault of SUVs and the drivers
> are idiots because you choose to ride
> instead of to walk.

>
> >> But you seem to be a problem-magnet of sorts.
> >> You ride your bike where you know it's dangerous
> >> on roads not designed for bikes, and complain.
>
> >I ride a bike where I must ride a bike.
>

> Because "they" are forcing you to ride a bike.
> "They" won't let you walk, or take a bus.

Bicycle is the right tool for the right environment. Don't make it
more difficult. Walking is painfully slow for the American sprawl and
the buses are unreliable and lacking. They are noisy as well. And they
pollute.

>
> > I could ride a donkey, but the
> >grass is not readily available. And the shit... Well, that's another
> >issue. More shit for my community which is already full of shit.
>

> Because you keep posting shit
> into the communities you post shit into.
>
> And you refuse to pick up the shit
> you see in your path, or to fix the corners.
>
> But you do like to consume vast quantities of food,
> which results in more shit, and you getting fat.
>
> All because "they" force you to sit
> and write shit to groups on the Internet.

Who's they? Our masters?

They designed the system around the automobile so we should blame the
Devil for it.
>
> Is that part of your complex complex complex?

>
> >> >Fear of horns, fear of fights, fear of stress, fear of close calls...
>
> >> Yes. Plenty of fear.
> >> Paranoia might be the next level.
>
> >The Wise Man avoids conflict.
>

> You mean, like riding slow on a fast highway
> on a bike built for cars wearing a mask
> or a tee-shirt holding a banana
> shoving it in people's faces.

Yes, we must slow down the world. At least they should give us space
for those of us who are enlightened enough not to be part of the rat
race.

>
> > I've found a Paradise which is about 1
> >square mile where I can roam free. It's a big park by local standards.
> >We must drive over 20 miles but we find space away from the rat race.
>

> So you add to the pollution and congestion
> in order to ride your bicycle. You're certainly helping
> your revolution to be revolting. You're like, the poster-dude.

I'm trying to move closer to the mountain since the mountain doesn't
come to me.