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Vagina Gorilla

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Oct 18, 2010, 5:33:18 PM10/18/10
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Doesn't the UCI require the bike to have two working brakes?

David Millar (Garmin-Transitions) broke the course record in winning
the Chrono des Nations on Sunday and revealed afterwards that one of
the secrets of his success was riding without a rear brake.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/millar-ends-season-in-best-time-trialling-form-of-his-career


RicodJour

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Oct 18, 2010, 5:57:36 PM10/18/10
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>  http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/millar-ends-season-in-best-time-trial...

I'm more concerned with whether this is acceptable:
"place behind a rampant Fabian Cancellara"
Rampant...? And in a skinsuit no less.

But this applies to the brakes:
"Bicycles used in road events must be fitted with an efficient braking
system that acts on both wheels (either
simultaneously or independently) operated by two brake levers. The use
of a fixed gear in competition is
prohibited."

Maybe he was saying that he...hell, I have no idea why he'd say that
as it's a clear violation. Maybe it was the Spanish beef. But all
bikes in a time trial are inspected - do they check the brakes to see
if they operate?

R

Fred Flintstein

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Oct 18, 2010, 5:59:27 PM10/18/10
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"Sunday�s victory at the Chrono des Nations brought the curtain down
on Millar�s season and he showcased his talent on a route seemingly
tailor-made for a rider of his panache"

Clearly panache is the key.

Fred Flintstein

Vagina Gorilla

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Oct 18, 2010, 6:03:01 PM10/18/10
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Vagina Gorilla

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Oct 18, 2010, 6:08:10 PM10/18/10
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There's also a lot of language about safety in the UCI regs. Even
though the front does most of the work I'll bet the UCI won't be
laughing about this too much.

How stupid is Millar anyway?

RicodJour

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Oct 18, 2010, 6:20:36 PM10/18/10
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On Oct 18, 6:08 pm, Vagina Gorilla <vaginagori...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> There's also a lot of language about safety in the UCI regs.  Even
> though the front does most of the work I'll bet the UCI won't be
> laughing about this too much.

It is pretty cool that leaving off one brake shaved two minutes off of
his time. Think how fast he would have gone with no brakes.

> How stupid is Millar anyway?

Rhetorical question, right?

R

Phil H

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Oct 18, 2010, 7:11:38 PM10/18/10
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Think how much more time he would have shaved if he had removed the
brake lever as well. There is something funny about having a lever
with no brake and as for his comment......who doesn't open up the
brakes on their TT bike so there is no way they'll rub?
Phil H

Scott

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Oct 18, 2010, 7:19:32 PM10/18/10
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>  http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/millar-ends-season-in-best-time-trial...

Dumbass,

Maybe he means that he rode w/out his rear brake, as in he just didn't
use it. The one photo I can find of his ride clearly shows that he
has both brake levers mounted, and I would find it really difficult to
believe that when his bike was inspected for compliance w/ the various
UCI regs the officials just didn't notice his brake had been removed.

Plano Dude

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Oct 18, 2010, 7:20:41 PM10/18/10
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+1

Probably the situation. If not for the tension of the cable, the lever
would be rattling the whole way, driving you batty.

Phil H

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Oct 18, 2010, 7:59:59 PM10/18/10
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> would be rattling the whole way, driving you batty.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

A lot of the higher end Felt TT bikes have the rear brake mounted near
the front derailleur. Millar's comment, the UCI rule and the position
of the Felt rear brake.....your guess is as good as mine.
Phil H

derf...@gmail.com

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Oct 18, 2010, 9:58:38 PM10/18/10
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On Oct 18, 7:59 pm, Phil H <pholma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A lot of the higher end Felt TT bikes have the rear brake mounted near
> the front derailleur. Millar's comment, the UCI rule and the position
> of the Felt rear brake.....your guess is as good as mine.

The Felt DA does have the rear brake mounted down low, behind the seat
tube. It's a PITA with a Zipp Sub-9, and can rub even when wide open.
My rear brake, when using a disc wheel, is essentially useless.

Millar appears to be on the 2011 model, which has a different brake
setup (scroll down):

http://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/Tri_Bike_by_brand/Felt/Felt_s_2011_DA_1471.html

I'd guess he just had it all the way open so that it provided no
braking.

Norman

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Oct 19, 2010, 12:14:01 AM10/19/10
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On Oct 18, 9:58 pm, "derFah...@gmail.com" <derfah...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Millar appears to be on the 2011 model, which has a different brake
> setup (scroll down):
>

> http://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/Tri_Bike_by_brand/Felt/Felt_s_2011...

Oh, hooray. The return of the chainstay brake mounting.
There are good reasons why the mountain bike universe
gave that up in 1989.

Beloved Fred No. 1

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Oct 19, 2010, 4:32:39 AM10/19/10
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Vagina Gorilla wrote:
> How stupid is Millar anyway?

That's a stupid question. Anyone who's dumb enough to keep an EPO vial
around as a memento must set quite a high line in stupidity.

Beloved Fred No. 1

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Oct 19, 2010, 4:34:39 AM10/19/10
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Vagina Gorilla wrote:
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/millar-ends-season-in-best-time-trialling-form-of-his-career

Fred Flintstein wrote:
> "Sunday�s victory at the Chrono des Nations brought the curtain down
> on Millar�s season and he showcased his talent on a route seemingly
> tailor-made for a rider of his panache"
>
> Clearly panache is the key.

We should sue cyclingnews for infringing on an rbr trademark.

Scott

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Oct 19, 2010, 9:03:45 AM10/19/10
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Yes, but those reasons are completely unrelated to the reasons why the
aero frame universe is going that way now.

Norman

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Oct 19, 2010, 8:54:37 PM10/19/10
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Well, the rationalizations* (all caps, bold, underline) that went into
pushing
chainstay-mounted brakes in 1988 were quite different from the real
world
reasons that pretty much everybody stopped doing it within 5 years.
It
was a retarded idea then, and it is a retarded idea now.


*besides selling a silly idea that requires a new frame, in addition
to new
brake hardware, to a bunch of gullible dentists. THAT part is pure
genius.

RicodJour

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Oct 19, 2010, 10:31:20 PM10/19/10
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On Oct 19, 8:54 pm, Norman <invasivenor...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> *besides selling a silly idea that requires a new frame, in addition
> to new
> brake hardware, to a bunch of gullible dentists.  THAT part is pure
> genius.

You are about to be visited by the wrath of the dental twins. If
you've ever seen Marathon Man, you know you should be very, very
worried.

R

Ryan Cousineau

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Oct 21, 2010, 11:22:00 PM10/21/10
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Dude, seriously, you think that the problem of mud-fouling is going to
be a big negative for time triallists? Really? Are you even smart
enough to be a dumbass?

With that out of the way, Mr. Millar does have a history of dubious
mechanical experiments. Remember his no-fder time trial? David wishes
you would forget it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Millar#Early_career

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