UCI. Same Shit, Different Year
B. Lafferty
Spunout
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bordry-critical-of-uci-testing
Sad really. The UCI is missing an opportunity to share responsibility
with national organization and the race promoter. Makes you wonder
how deep the UCI is into this, how much they have riding on a tour
where 'nobody tests positive'.
DA74
The UCI doesn't want an opportunity to share responsibility. It
doesn't want positives. Remember all the warning letters that they
used to send out to athletes like Tyler Hamilton for instance, warning
them that their lab numbers were suspicious? They were basically
telling them to do a better job at doping because they were going to
get caught if they kept it up.
Every Pro Tour positive means sponsorship money out the door. Floyd
and Tyler alone took out two enthusiastic top-tier sponsors (iShares,
Phonak) totaling $20-30 million dollars per year. There are many
others...
-DA74
F. Kurgan Gringioni
"DA74" <davida...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:172d8336-d103-44a6...@s1g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
:: The UCI doesn't want an opportunity to share responsibility. It
:: doesn't want positives. Remember all the warning letters that they
:: used to send out to athletes like Tyler Hamilton for instance, warning
:: them that their lab numbers were suspicious? They were basically
:: telling them to do a better job at doping because they were going to
:: get caught if they kept it up.
Goddamm.
Tugboat's Dad was an idiot.
thanks,
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
Keith
<davida...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Jun 9, 9:54 am, Spunout <mdekel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 9, 11:34 am, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bordry-critical-of-uci-testing
>>
>> Sad really. The UCI is missing an opportunity to share responsibility
>> with national organization and the race promoter. Makes you wonder
>> how deep the UCI is into this, how much they have riding on a tour
>> where 'nobody tests positive'.
>
>The UCI doesn't want an opportunity to share responsibility. It
>doesn't want positives.
And ASO it seems too now...hence the firing of Clerc in September 2008
and the subsequent return of LA, something he would have never
allowed...show must go on.
Mike Jacoubowsky
"Keith" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vrmv06h3kq3oo7blg...@4ax.com...
Patrice Clerc was canned because he wouldn't work with anybody else. His
preference would have been to run the TdF as an isolated, national event
before working with the UCI to ensure that Pro Teams had automatic entries
into Grand Tours. It had nothing to do with the subsequent return of Lance
Armstrong. It had everything to do with a too-nationalistic vision of an
event that succeeds because it draws in the world.
Please cite evidence to the contrary.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
Frederick the Great
<407d6aec-2c27-460b...@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Spunout <mdek...@gmail.com> wrote:
Take a minute. What do the letters UCI stand for?
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The UCI is the rider's union.
You think they should be in bed with management?
--
Old Fritz
--D-y
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bordry-critical-of-uci-testing
Frustrated, are we?
Go fix baseball and football, Brian. Or at least some equal time. What
say?
--D-y
B. Lafferty
TheCoz
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bordry-critical-of-uci-testing
The UCI is making too much money for allowing certain teams to play.
Sponsorship? They are a dime a dozen. This is bicycle racing. In my
opinion, that's why Discovery Channel pulled out. They are a too well
known and respected outfit to be caught up in some doping scandal.
They new what was going on behind the LA Iron Curtain.
Worst case scenario, when bicycle companies start sponsoring their own
teams, that's when the real racing will start.
UCI needs to start representing the riders, not the game.
Coz
H. Fred Kveck
Frederick the Great <los...@the.movies> wrote:
> In article
> <407d6aec-2c27-460b...@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> Spunout <mdek...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 9, 11:34 am, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bordry-critical-of-uci-testing
> >
> > Sad really. The UCI is missing an opportunity to share responsibility
> > with national organization and the race promoter. Makes you wonder
> > how deep the UCI is into this, how much they have riding on a tour
> > where 'nobody tests positive'.
>
> Take a minute. What do the letters UCI stand for?
> 60
> ...
> 1
> The UCI is the rider's union.
> You think they should be in bed with management?
I don't think the UCi is the rider's union for cyclists any more than the FIM is
for motorcyclists, Michael. It seems more like a governing body to me. There is an
actual group that claims to be representing the riders' interests but I can't think
of its name at the moment.
z, fred
> In article <lostit-EEAE00....@news.albasani.net>,
> Frederick the Great <los...@the.movies> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <407d6aec-2c27-460b...@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>> Spunout <mdek...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bordry-critical-of-uci-testing
>>> Sad really. The UCI is missing an opportunity to share responsibility
>>> with national organization and the race promoter. Makes you wonder
>>> how deep the UCI is into this, how much they have riding on a tour
>>> where 'nobody tests positive'.
>> Take a minute. What do the letters UCI stand for?
>> 60
>> ...
>> 1
>> The UCI is the rider's union.
>> You think they should be in bed with management?
>
> I don't think the UCi is the rider's union for cyclists any more than the FIM is
> for motorcyclists, Michael. It seems more like a governing body to me. There is an
> actual group that claims to be representing the riders' interests but I can't think
> of its name at the moment.
You can't think of it's name ( Cyclistes Professionnels Associes )
because it has apparently gone underground.
http://www.dailypeloton.com/displayarticle.asp?pk=13784
leads to a link http://www.cpasite.org/ which is as of May 11th,
pending renewal or deletion as a domain name held by GoDaddy.
derf...@gmail.com
> Go fix baseball and football, Brian.
I hear that curling has some serious dopers.
--D-y
> > Go fix baseball and football, Brian.
>
> I hear that curling has some serious dopers.
So does chess.
--D-y
Frederick the Great
"H. Fred Kveck" <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> In article <lostit-EEAE00....@news.albasani.net>,
> Frederick the Great <los...@the.movies> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <407d6aec-2c27-460b...@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> > Spunout <mdek...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Jun 9, 11:34Â am, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bordry-critical-of-uci-testing
> > >
> > > Sad really. The UCI is missing an opportunity to share responsibility
> > > with national organization and the race promoter. Makes you wonder
> > > how deep the UCI is into this, how much they have riding on a tour
> > > where 'nobody tests positive'.
> >
> > Take a minute. What do the letters UCI stand for?
> > 60
> > ...
> > 1
> > The UCI is the rider's union.
> > You think they should be in bed with management?
>
> I don't think the UCi is the rider's union for cyclists any more than the FIM is
> for motorcyclists, Michael. It seems more like a governing body to me.
Oh ho!
--
Old Fritz
Betty
> You can't think of it's name ( Cyclistes Professionnels Associes )
> because it has apparently gone underground.
>
> http://www.dailypeloton.com/displayarticle.asp?pk=13784
>
> leads to a link http://www.cpasite.org/ which is as of May 11th, pending
> renewal or deletion as a domain name held by GoDaddy.
Or they're registered in Tiera del Fuego (between Starbucks and Mellow
Johnies).
B. Lafferty
bitter."--Leonard Cohen
NoDannyNo
No no, noooooo...yoo got it all wrong. Hoo cares about idiotic bike
companies. Da Yoo Cee Eye shood push to legalize dope so then yoo
can have honest-to-gosh drug company sponsorship mega-bux. Just
imagine how much fun dat wood be. Instead of schleping water bottles
yer domestiques cood collect up a buncha syringes from da team car.
Studies have shown that 7 out of 6 rbr clowns are "more likely" to
watch cycle racing than competitive bass fishing if open-doping is
allowed.
B. Lafferty
"WADA now has to figure out if we can find a deal," Bordry continued.
"But we need guarantees. Last year we had problems every day. We are not
going to revive a situation like in 2009. *But if we are not there,
police forces will be there (to catch cheating riders)."*
One big issue between the AFLD and UCI has been the sharing of the
Whereabouts data of the riders. Bordry accused McQuaid of refusing to
share the data with the AFLD in 2009 and 2010, but the Irishman refuted
this.
Bordry said the French anti-doping agency is working in unison with its
American counterpart USADA. "They gave us information about American
riders training in France," Bordry said. "They gave us the assignment to
perform controls on them. This is a very good thing that national
agencies can cooperate."
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-afld-accusations-continue
Keith
wrote:
You can't expect McQuaid to be focusing on the real issues, he's busy
spinning the SOS :
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/giro-ditalia-tests-show-cycling-is-cleaner-mcquaid-says?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=news_headlines
or http://tinyurl.com/2fogmf6
He's lying and/or clutching at straws and he knows it, he's like all
the dopers really, deny the obvious until the very bitter end.
B. Lafferty
Betty
>>>
Keith wrote:
>>
B. Lafferty wrote:
>
A good example of positive reinforcement. (Do bot authors study
Behavioral Psychology ?).
B. Lafferty
Keith
wrote:
""In the past we've seen situations where the level has gone down then
back up again, which can be evidence of blood transfusions. But the
tests from the Giro look normal and that's very encouraging.""
Ahem...so does that mean McQuaid thinks that LA was doping in last
year's TDF as his blood values did exactly that? Oops, forget that
question, it's been "taken care of"...LA probably has another
"donation" lined up for when he quits cycling for good, just that this
time they'll keep the secret better.
K. Fred Gauss
> Ahem...so does that mean McQuaid thinks that LA was doping in last
> year's TDF as his blood values did exactly that? Oops, forget that
> question, it's been "taken care of"...LA probably has another
> "donation" lined up for when he quits cycling for good, just that this
> time they'll keep the secret better.
>
Serious question: What was the secret?
I remember reading years ago that Armstrong was donating money to the
UCI's anti-doping program. Struck me as strange at the time. It probably
wasn't widely reported, but it was reported. Was there a different
donation that was kept secret? Or is it the amount that was kept secret?
B. Lafferty
It was reported and even discussed at length here. The rbr minority
considered it a conflict of interest; the majority did not and, in their
wisdom, ridiculed the minority. At least Pat is now on the rbr minority
side. :-)
Michael Press
"B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
When people laugh at you it
only seems to be a majority.
That is the indefinite "you."
Please do not take this to
mean that people are laughing
at you. You are far to serious
to be taken lightly.
--
Michael Press
B. Lafferty
K. Fred Gauss
Thank you.