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Brad Anders

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Jan 28, 2011, 9:41:28 AM1/28/11
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I just wanted to let everyone know that Jobst is still in the hospital
and is improving. Out of respect for his privacy I'm not going into
details, but he has a long road to recovery. I'll post again when he's
released.

Steve Freides

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Jan 28, 2011, 9:42:42 AM1/28/11
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Thanks very much, Brad.

-S-


RicodJour

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Jan 28, 2011, 9:45:01 AM1/28/11
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Glad to hear he's improving. Thanks for the update.

R

Choppy Warburton

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Jan 28, 2011, 11:26:09 AM1/28/11
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Brad, thanks for the update. What was the nature of the accident,
just road hazard or was a car involved or other riders? Thanks

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Jan 28, 2011, 11:50:09 AM1/28/11
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"Brad Anders" <pban...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Brad: I think it is OK to let people know that Jobst has a 44cm rod in one
leg. It helps keep things in perspective and continue the legend of TOBG
(The Original Big Guy). Jobst doesn't do anything in a small way. It's
probably going to be a bit before we see him on his bike, but I'm confident
he'll be back out there.

But to answer the question everyone wants to know, whatever he hit, I'm told
his wheel's still true. We need no more evidence than that that things will
be back in order, maybe not as soon as we'd like, but I'm confident I'll
once again see that tall stick figure approaching from the other direction,
with the rumble caused by turning that 66 front/9 rear gearing up the
gradual grade from San Gregorio all the proof I need that it's Jobst. Keep
him in your thoughts and prayers.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

RicodJour

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Jan 28, 2011, 1:55:42 PM1/28/11
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On Jan 28, 11:50 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> "Brad Anders" <pband...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
>
> >I just wanted to let everyone know that Jobst is still in the hospital
> > and is improving. Out of respect for his privacy I'm not going into
> > details, but he has a long road to recovery. I'll post again when he's
> > released.
>
> Brad: I think it is OK to let people know that Jobst has a 44cm rod in one
> leg.

I wonder if he took the surgeon to task for not knowing his
metallurgy.

Titanium...? You call THAT titanium?! That's 3Al/2.5V and you're not
putting anything but 6Al/4V in MY body!

R

Ronko

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Jan 28, 2011, 2:06:43 PM1/28/11
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In article <ddef2499-fb16-4725-8245-
4029d4...@s29g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
pban...@gmail.com says...
Thanks for the update.

Anton Berlin

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Jan 28, 2011, 6:04:27 PM1/28/11
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>
> Titanium...?  You call THAT titanium?!  That's 3Al/2.5V and you're not
> putting anything but 6Al/4V in MY body!
>
> R

Serious - that is fucking genius ! Nice one Rico.

(not a criticism but doesn't JB prefer reynolds ? )

RicodJour

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Jan 28, 2011, 6:18:12 PM1/28/11
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On Jan 28, 6:04 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Titanium...?  You call THAT titanium?!  That's 3Al/2.5V and you're not
> > putting anything but 6Al/4V in MY body!
>
> Serious - that is fucking genius !  Nice one Rico.
>
> (not a criticism but doesn't JB prefer reynolds ?  )

I believe so, but even Steel Is Real people wouldn't want it being put
in their body when it will eventually end up in their bloodstream.

One thing about Jobst, lovable curmudgeon he, I'd bet his technical
background would make a hospital stay for him, as unplatable as that
may be, at least interesting for him.

Can you imagine the information he'd be sucking out of the brains of
everyone within arm's reach? The medicos better be boning up on their
technical and operating manuals or he's going to make them feel like
idiots. They'd sound like motorboats - but, but, but, but...

R

thirty-six

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Jan 28, 2011, 9:08:21 PM1/28/11
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Only in the farmgate tubeset.

Cicero Venatio

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Jan 31, 2011, 7:49:31 AM1/31/11
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-----------

I'm guessing that the reason Brad will not reveal the cause is because
it was "pilot error". The only other cause that would keep it under
wraps, is some source of equipment failure. I remember Jobst once
writing here, that he rides his tires down to the cords. Isn't that
just asking for a catastrophic tire failure at speed? I don't think
tire companies have a disclaimer that you should replace the tire if all
the tread has been worn away, but maybe they should for those cheap
asses out there.
-------

thirty-six

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Jan 31, 2011, 8:56:05 AM1/31/11
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There are many peculiarities about Jobst's technical decisions which
could result in equipment failure such as using lightweight racing
brake calipers that should have been retired years ago and prefering
to use hard built wheels causing unecessarily high stress levels to
the frame, handlebars and seatpin.

It wouldn't surprise me though if his mind just wasn't on the job, his
replies in rbt have been failing to hit the mark more frequently than
ever.

Brad Anders

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Jan 31, 2011, 9:54:45 AM1/31/11
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Nothing is being kept "under wraps" out of any desire to protect
Jobst's reputation as a cyclist. Nobody knows exactly what happened,
it appears to have been a solo crash. Jobst has had many crashes over
the years and I'm certain he'd take the blame in more than one of
them.

What I am keeping private are the details of what's going on at the
hospital, that's his business and not the business of a public
newsgroup. That's all.

ilan

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Jan 31, 2011, 2:39:25 PM1/31/11
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Unless he accepts your friend request on his FB page.

-ilan

Steve Freides

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Jan 31, 2011, 4:59:28 PM1/31/11
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It is truly a sign of the decline of Western Civilization that anyone
would even consider posting such a message, let alone actually do it.

Dumbass, no one cares what you're guessing.

-S-


ilan

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Jan 31, 2011, 6:22:25 PM1/31/11
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How do you know that he's from the West?

-ilan

DemostiX

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Feb 1, 2011, 9:20:11 PM2/1/11
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For those speculating about recovery: Ed Pavelka, a long-time cycling
journo and editor of various cycling mags,most recently
roadbikereview, suffered severe femur and / or hip injuries a few
years ago, at around age 60. After lots of therapy and exercise of
will, Ed recently sold his interest in that electronic rag so he
could, among other things spend more time doing regular double
centuries in Pennsylvania Appalachians (and elsewhere.)

There is life after severe crashes, even for those (of us) on the
other side.

Harry Travis

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Feb 2, 2011, 12:16:39 PM2/2/11
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"Brad Anders" <pban...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 31, 5:49 am, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Brad Anders wrote:
> > I just wanted to let everyone know that Jobst is still in the
> > hospital
> > and is improving. Out of respect for his privacy I'm not going into
> > details, but he has a long road to recovery. I'll post again when
> > he's
> > released.
>
> -----------
>
> I'm guessing that the reason Brad will not reveal the cause is because
> it was "pilot error". The only other cause that would keep it under
> wraps, is some source of equipment failure. I remember Jobst once
> writing here, that he rides his tires down to the cords. Isn't that
> just asking for a catastrophic tire failure at speed? I don't think
> tire companies have a disclaimer that you should replace the tire if
> all
> the tread has been worn away, but maybe they should for those cheap
> asses out there.
> -------
=======

Nothing is being kept "under wraps" out of any desire to protect
Jobst's reputation as a cyclist. Nobody knows exactly what happened,
it appears to have been a solo crash. Jobst has had many crashes over
the years and I'm certain he'd take the blame in more than one of
them.

What I am keeping private are the details of what's going on at the
hospital, that's his business and not the business of a public
newsgroup. That's all.

=======

On the other hand, I think revealing the 44cm bar they inserted into his
leg helps to reinforce the legend that is Jobst. And that I don't think
he'd mind. :-)

The two staples of coastal rides out here are Jobst and Lindsay Crawford
sightings. I can spot both from a distance that would seem far in excess
of my visual capabilities. My son (with much better eyes!) can't figure
it out. "Dad, how do you know that's Jobst (or Lindsay)?" There's just
something about the way each of them rides, not to mention their height.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


ilan

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Feb 2, 2011, 1:50:54 PM2/2/11
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On Feb 2, 6:16 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> "Brad Anders" <pband...@gmail.com> wrote in message

I wonder whether he tried convincing the surgeon that he could modify
one oof his own 44cm handlebars and use that instead.

-ilan

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Feb 2, 2011, 2:47:43 PM2/2/11
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"ilan" <ila...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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=======


I wonder whether he tried convincing the surgeon that he could modify
one oof his own 44cm handlebars and use that instead.

-ilan
=======

Handlebar width is a subject I've never brought up with Jobst, nor seen
discussed by him. That could be interesting. He grew up in an era when
handlebars were a lot narrower than today; for years, your choice was a
Cinelli #64, #65 or #66 in 38 or 40cm. Jobst could have been the radical
using something much wider back in the day, or it could be that today he's
still sticking to the narrow stuff because... just because. I've never paid
attention to his bar width.

ilan

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Feb 2, 2011, 4:36:21 PM2/2/11
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On Feb 2, 8:47 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> "ilan" <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote in message

39cm my favourite Cinelli bar width.

-ilan

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Feb 2, 2011, 6:59:08 PM2/2/11
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"ilan" <ila...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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-ilan

Ne pas 38 ou 40? I didn't know Cinellis came in odd-cm increments. I
apologize for the dreadful French. Je parle français comme une vache
espagnole. And that's about as far as I go!

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com

ilan

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Feb 2, 2011, 7:31:53 PM2/2/11
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On Feb 3, 12:59 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>

It's only for the track bars. Hard to put brakes on those given the
bend.

-ilan

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