Poor Contador
BLafferty
defamation. Give your friend Lance a call. He'll explain to you why
he's never sued anyone in the US for defamation.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-calls-for-end-of-defamatory-news
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:s96dnRc9v-4zEC3R...@giganews.com...
That may be technically true, but a bit deceptive. Lance did in fact win a
judgement against SCA. It wasn't specifically for defamation, but close. And
didn't he prevent Walsh's book from being published in the US?
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
BLafferty
defamation and most likely never will. He's threatened it, to Steffan
Prentis, but has yet to follow through.
Jeff Jones
>
> The bottom line is that Armstrong has never sued anyone in the US for
> defamation and most likely never will. He's threatened it, to Steffan
> Prentis, but has yet to follow through.
Relevant to this is that it's much tougher to win a defamation case in
the US compared to England and Wales (not sure about other countries).
The laws aren't hugely different but way they're judged is.
And threatening to sue is far far more common than actually suing. The
threat is usually for PR. If someone's serious about suing, then they
will do it before proclaiming it to the world.
DirtRoadie
Lafferty should also know that the standard for establishing slander/
libel of a public figure is much more burdensome that that for any
other mere mortal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Public_figure_doctrine_.28absence_of_malice.29
The point being that a "public figure" can sue and establish that
allegedly slanderous material is 100% false, yet still lose the
slander suit.
It's almost as if there is a "presumption of truth" which the
slandered public figure must overcome.
DR
Fredmaster of Brainerd
> He's being defamed! Alberto, old boy, truth is an absolute defense to
> defamation. Give your friend Lance a call. He'll explain to you why
Christ, Lafferty, you even candyassed this one by
pointing out that Armstrong has never sued anyone
_in the US_. Why the disclaimer? Because you know
it's not even an applicable example. Contador is
presumably not planning to sue anyone in the US.
He doesn't give a rat's ass about what the US media
says. Of course, he's unlikely to actually sue anyone
in Europe either - it's just the usual PR spin. But it's all
about LANCE for you, as usual.
Fredmaster Ben
BLafferty
For a public figure to prevail in a defamation suit in the US, he must
prove that the defamatory statement was made with "actual malice."
Actual malice is the making of a defamatory statement knowing that the
statement is false when made or with reckless disregard for the truth or
falsity of the statement when made. This is a much higher burden of
proof that that found in UK law.
BLafferty
FuckTard, Lance will explain how different the law of defamation is in
the US when compared to the UK and the continental legal systems. He'll
advise Alberta to sue in the UK if possible. Anyone here know the
parameters of defamation law in Belgium?
Fred
>Anyone here know the parameters of defamation law in Belgium?
You mean, anyone besides you?
Fred
BLafferty
RicodJour
> On 10/9/2010 5:06 PM, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 9, 8:43 am, BLafferty<Br...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> He's being defamed! Alberto, old boy, truth is an absolute defense to
> >> defamation. Give your friend Lance a call. He'll explain to you why
> >> he's never sued anyone in the US for defamation.http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-calls-for-end-of-defamatory-...
>
> > Christ, Lafferty, you even candyassed this one by
> > pointing out that Armstrong has never sued anyone
> > _in the US_. Why the disclaimer? Because you know
> > it's not even an applicable example. Contador is
> > presumably not planning to sue anyone in the US.
> > He doesn't give a rat's ass about what the US media
> > says. Of course, he's unlikely to actually sue anyone
> > in Europe either - it's just the usual PR spin. But it's all
> > about LANCE for you, as usual.
>
>
> the US when compared to the UK and the continental legal systems. He'll
> advise Alberta to sue in the UK if possible. Anyone here know the
> parameters of defamation law in Belgium?
You don't care about cycling, you just care about keeping the shit
being stirred. This should have been obvious to me, but I have
problems translating your dweeb to English.
Here's a thought - why not start your own newsgroup that will allow
you to pontificate on all the meaningless drivel ancillary to any
sport. Chess, cycling, same diff, right? As long as you get to be
ringmaster in your circle jerk circus, you're winning. Go you!
R
Ronko
6b3a60...@f14g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, DirtR...@aol.com
says...
court the burden of proving defamation, slander and libel become dificult.
Philip W. Moore, Jr.
Bottom line is that Lafferty sucks cock and can't admit that Mike had a
great point.
BLafferty
>
> "BLafferty" <Br...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:-NSdnQ8WP7nsOi3R...@giganews.com...
>> On 10/9/2010 1:22 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>> "BLafferty" <Br...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:s96dnRc9v-4zEC3R...@giganews.com...
>>>> He's being defamed! Alberto, old boy, truth is an absolute defense to
>>>> defamation. Give your friend Lance a call. He'll explain to you why
>>>> he's never sued anyone in the US for defamation.
>>>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-calls-for-end-of-defamatory-news
>>>>
>>>
>>> That may be technically true, but a bit deceptive. Lance did in fact win
>>> a judgement against SCA. It wasn't specifically for defamation, but
>>> close. And didn't he prevent Walsh's book from being published in the
>>> US?
>>>
>>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
>>> Chain Reaction Bicycles
>>> www.ChainReaction.com
>>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>> The bottom line is that Armstrong has never sued anyone in the US for
>> defamation and most likely never will. He's threatened it, to Steffan
>> Prentis, but has yet to follow through.
>
> Bottom line is that Lafferty sucks cock and can't admit that Mike had a
> great point.
The bottom line is that you're a bottom feeding troll.
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
> On 10/9/2010 5:06 PM, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 9, 8:43 am, BLafferty<Br...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> He's being defamed! Alberto, old boy, truth is an absolute defense to
> >> defamation. Give your friend Lance a call. He'll explain to you why
> >> he's never sued anyone in the US for defamation.http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-calls-for-end-of-defamatory-...
>
> > Christ, Lafferty, you even candyassed this one by
> > pointing out that Armstrong has never sued anyone
> > _in the US_. Why the disclaimer? Because you know
> > it's not even an applicable example. Contador is
> > presumably not planning to sue anyone in the US.
> > He doesn't give a rat's ass about what the US media
> > says. Of course, he's unlikely to actually sue anyone
> > in Europe either - it's just the usual PR spin. But it's all
> > about LANCE for you, as usual.
>
> > Fredmaster Ben
>
> FuckTard, Lance will explain how different the law of defamation is in
> the US when compared to the UK and the continental legal systems.
<snip>
Dumbass -
This thread is about Contador. How is the US legal system relevant in
any way?
thanks,
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
Norman
Alberto Contador speaks Spanish, ergo he is an illegal alien,
ergo the White man is keeping him down with His Western,
Racist "justice" System.
Philip W. Moore, Jr.
Take a poll here, and see whether RBR thinks I'm a troll or that you're a
troll. Whatever the case may be, you're an obsessive cocksucker.
BLafferty
Philip W. Moore, Jr.
Slurp away, Brian.