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ronaldo_jeremiah

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Feb 16, 2010, 4:09:45 PM2/16/10
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http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/02/technical-faq/technical-faq-saving-that-damaged-carbon-frame_105242

Zinn seems to think that these carbon frames can be repaired and made
safe. Ha! It's like he doesn't even know about carbon's unstable,
explosive properties, even in the absence of damage.

-rj

rick-...@uiowa.edu

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Feb 16, 2010, 4:20:06 PM2/16/10
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What a fluff piece for calfee. Wonder how much he paid vsnooze for
that 'article'.


Henry

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Feb 16, 2010, 4:27:48 PM2/16/10
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On Feb 17, 10:09 am, ronaldo_jeremiah <ronaldo_jerem...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/02/technical-faq/technical-faq-sa...

>
> Zinn seems to think that these carbon frames can be repaired and made
> safe.  Ha!  It's like he doesn't even know about carbon's unstable,
> explosive properties, even in the absence of damage.
>
> -rj

so what's wrong with fixing it ? Carbon fibre and glue doesn't work ?

Brad Anders

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Feb 16, 2010, 5:25:20 PM2/16/10
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You need to put your sarcasm hat on.

Brad Anders

Henry

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Feb 16, 2010, 5:36:29 PM2/16/10
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bother; I wasn't really being sarcastic; I'm ignorant - why can't cf
be glued ?
ITIR an Americas Cup boat delaminating and sinking, and believe the
glue is a key component.

Tom Kunich

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Feb 16, 2010, 5:39:05 PM2/16/10
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"Henry" <snogfest_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 17, 11:25 am, Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 16, 2:27 pm, Henry <snogfest_hosebe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > so what's wrong with fixing it ? Carbon fibre and glue doesn't work ?
> >
> > You need to put your sarcasm hat on.
>
> bother; I wasn't really being sarcastic; I'm ignorant - why can't cf
> be glued ?

Relax Henry, Brad was suggesting that you were being kidded. Brad is one of
the good guys.

cur...@the-md-russells.org

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Feb 16, 2010, 6:16:41 PM2/16/10
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If you ever saw the film that used carbon dust as a primary explosive
in battlefield level warfare, you would get off your carbon time bomb
and hope it doesn't go entropic in the immediate future. rbr is on the
forefront of combating this danger on the roads.

And whatever you do, don't smoke around that bicycle...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Feb 16, 2010, 11:32:51 PM2/16/10
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<rick-...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
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> What a fluff piece for calfee. Wonder how much he paid vsnooze for
> that 'article'.

Fluff piece or not, at least Calfee has taken on the task of repairing what
most have considered disposable. Will this drum up more biz for Calfee's
repair department? Very likely. Is that a bad thing? Absolutely not.
Anything that can get us away from $3000+ disposable frames is, in my
opinion, a good thing.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Donald Munro

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Feb 17, 2010, 8:44:27 AM2/17/10
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> Relax Henry, Brad was suggesting that you were being kidded. Brad is one
> of the good guys.
>

Brad has been assimilated by the dark side. Last I saw he was happily
assimilating with 6 of 9.

Matt Chambers

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Feb 17, 2010, 3:00:44 PM2/17/10
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Wise Ones,

Last year, after registering on Alibaba.com and communicating with a bunch
of trading companies, I bought a of couple those disposable carbon frames. I
got a Kuota Kredo
copy for the road and a Karbona Neo Track Lite copy for the gerbil wheel.
The road frame, fork, seat post , headset and bottle cages - $360. The track
frame, fork and seat post - $600.
I know, I have to be crazy to by direct from China, the old SOL warranty.
The track frame developed a tiny crack on the back of the seat tube. It's
not getting any bigger, but
I thought I would point it out to the seller anyway. After several emails
and few online chats on Alibaba.com. I received a replacement frame and was
told the replacement has
the same two year warranty. Both of these bicycles ride really nice. If they
break...................when they break, I'll flip a coin to decide whether
to buy again or have RRvelo.com
repair them. I don't possess the incredible power of a Kunich or a Kurgan,
so hopefully they'll last for a while.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47637207@N03/4366062976/

Have a nice day, Dumbass

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Tom Kunich

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Feb 17, 2010, 3:08:45 PM2/17/10
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"Matt Chambers" <mattch...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I don't possess the incredible power of a Kunich or a Kurgan, so hopefully
> they'll last for a while.

Matt, I don't know what's pulling your chain but here's what happened to
me - the carbon fork I had came unglued at the top of one leg while I was
riding. The other leg then simply broke off. The results of this was the I
was riding along and dumped almost face-first onto the ground. The guy
behind me managed to turn sharp enough to avoid running over me but fell
over on top of me breaking a couple of ribs as well.

One minute I was riding along and the next minute I was somehow arguing with
a nurse in the emergency hospital. That was about a month and a half ago.
I'm still having problems with my short term memory. Someone will tell me
something and I can't remember it a couple of minutes later.

This isn't something funny as people here seem to think. What's more, it
clearly could have killed me had there been a rock or some such at the point
where my head struck the ground.

What isn't clear to me is why this appears to be some sort of joke here.

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

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Feb 17, 2010, 3:35:12 PM2/17/10
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On Feb 17, 12:08 pm, "Tom Kunich" <tkun...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Matt Chambers" <mattchamb...@aol.com> wrote in message

FORKSTRONG!

Michael Press

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Feb 17, 2010, 3:44:13 PM2/17/10
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In article <kf9mn5pkt13bmonb8...@4ax.com>,
cur...@the-md-russells.org wrote:

Not even after?

--
Michael Press

Henry

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Feb 17, 2010, 3:46:09 PM2/17/10
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On Feb 18, 9:08 am, "Tom Kunich" <tkun...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Matt Chambers" <mattchamb...@aol.com> wrote in message

were you wearing a helmet (I mean this in a nice way)

Tom Kunich

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Feb 17, 2010, 3:49:28 PM2/17/10
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"Henry" <snogfest_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> were you wearing a helmet (I mean this in a nice way)

Of course but a helmet on a bicycle in such an accident has essentially no
effect. The very tip of it touched the group protecting absolutely nothing.

Tom Kunich

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Feb 17, 2010, 3:51:04 PM2/17/10
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"Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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touched the GROUND.

KurganGringioni

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Feb 17, 2010, 4:27:41 PM2/17/10
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"Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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: "Henry" <snogfest_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

: news:c969406f-5b28-4a19...@k2g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
: >
: > were you wearing a helmet (I mean this in a nice way)
:
: Of course but a helmet on a bicycle in such an accident has essentially no
: effect. The very tip of it touched the ground protecting absolutely
nothing.
:

Dumbass -

The few functioning brain cells which you possess are a little bit more than
"absolutely nothing", but perhaps we can round off . . . .

OK, let's round off. I agree wholeheartedly. Your helmet protects absolutely
nothing.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

Henry

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Feb 17, 2010, 4:58:29 PM2/17/10
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On Feb 18, 9:51 am, "Tom Kunich" <tkun...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Tom Kunich" <tkun...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:vqudnepOOejBy-HW...@earthlink.com...
>
> > "Henry" <snogfest_hosebe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >news:c969406f-5b28-4a19...@k2g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> were you wearing a helmet (I mean this in a nice way)
>
> > Of course but a helmet on a bicycle in such an accident has essentially no
> > effect. The very tip of it touched the group protecting absolutely
> > nothing.
>
> touched the GROUND.

no carpe diem moments since ?

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Feb 17, 2010, 8:12:12 PM2/17/10
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"Michael Press" <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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Helmets are the wrong sort of protection for that.
http://www.chaincondom.com/

William Asher

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Feb 17, 2010, 8:28:02 PM2/17/10
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:

> Helmets are the wrong sort of protection for that.
> http://www.chaincondom.com/

That looks like it is too small to fit my chainring. Do they come in a
Magnum size?

--
Bill Asher

cur...@the-md-russells.org

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Feb 17, 2010, 8:30:16 PM2/17/10
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:44:13 -0800, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
wrote:

>> If you ever saw the film that used carbon dust as a primary explosive
>> in battlefield level warfare, you would get off your carbon time bomb
>> and hope it doesn't go entropic in the immediate future. rbr is on the
>> forefront of combating this danger on the roads.
>>
>> And whatever you do, don't smoke around that bicycle...
>
>Not even after?

Please note the word (if it is indeed a word) was entropic, not
erotic. If it goes erotic, I have to point out that I am 60 years old,
been married for 25 years and could not possibly give you any relevant
advice. Except when in doubt, let them lead.

Donald Munro

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Feb 18, 2010, 3:35:10 AM2/18/10
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> Helmets are the wrong sort of protection for that.
>> http://www.chaincondom.com/

William Asher wrote:
> That looks like it is too small to fit my chainring. Do they come in a
> Magnum size?

Shirley you meant compact.

William Asher

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Feb 18, 2010, 2:00:35 PM2/18/10
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Donald Munro wrote:

I would have thought you would want ribbed.

--
Bill Asher

Donald Munro

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Feb 18, 2010, 3:27:08 PM2/18/10
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>>> Helmets are the wrong sort of protection for that.
>>>> http://www.chaincondom.com/

William Asher wrote:
>>> That looks like it is too small to fit my chainring. Do they come in a
>>> Magnum size?

Donald Munro wrote:
>> Shirley you meant compact.

William Asher wrote:
> I would have thought you would want ribbed.

My chainrings so worn it looks like a dick ring.

Anton Berlin

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Feb 23, 2010, 10:24:35 PM2/23/10
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On Feb 17, 2:08 pm, "Tom Kunich" <tkun...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Matt Chambers" <mattchamb...@aol.com> wrote in message

Kunich are you truly mystified what the joke is? It's you.

No one believes your imaginary story about your imaginary fork and the
imaginary crash that never happened.

You've become a cliche Kunich and it's only out of respect that your
ancestors probably didn't expect such a fuck up in their lineage that
we didn't call it "Kunich" and instead chose "FORKSTRONG"

You're a god damn mess Kunich, a real piece of work.

z

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Feb 24, 2010, 6:56:12 PM2/24/10
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ronaldo_jeremiah

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Feb 24, 2010, 8:50:41 PM2/24/10
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Excellent catch.

Dick Ring is a really nice guy. I'm proud to say he interviewed me at
a race once.

-rj

Donald Munro

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Feb 25, 2010, 3:21:59 AM2/25/10
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>>>>>> Helmets are the wrong sort of protection for that.
>>>>>>> http://www.chaincondom.com/

William Asher wrote:
>>>>>> That looks like it is too small to fit my chainring. Do they come
>>>>>> in a Magnum size?

Donald Munro wrote:
>>>>> Shirley you meant compact.

William Asher wrote:
>>>> I would have thought you would want ribbed.

Donald Munro wrote:
>>> My chainrings so worn it looks like a dick ring.

z wrote:
>> http://www.longsjo.com/History.html

ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
> Excellent catch.
> Dick Ring is a really nice guy. I'm proud to say he interviewed me at
> a race once.

<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/74634e849986ad9a/f896f47dd06aef71?lnk=gst&q=dick+ring#f896f47dd06aef71>

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