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BLafferty

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Nov 3, 2010, 11:37:17 AM11/3/10
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Ben Trovato

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Nov 3, 2010, 12:19:31 PM11/3/10
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On Nov 3, 8:37 am, BLafferty <B...@nobody.com> wrote:
> Oops. The Freds are wrong once again.http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-wants-new-zealand-win-will-sta...

It looks like the "Freds" include the French public prosecutor...

"Les deux hommes ont toujours refusé de s'expliquer devant le juge
d'instruction, qui va au-delà des réquisitions du ministère public. Le
parquet de Nanterre estimait pour sa part que rien ne démontrait la
participation de Landis au piratage du Laboratoire national de
dépistage du dopage et de l'Agence française de lutte contre le dopage
(AFLD) en 2006."

- http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves2010/20101102_223246_des-soucis-pour-landis.html

RicodJour

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Nov 3, 2010, 12:25:31 PM11/3/10
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On Nov 3, 12:19 pm, Ben Trovato <benn.trov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 3, 8:37 am, BLafferty <B...@nobody.com> wrote:
>
> > Oops. The Freds are wrong once again.http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-wants-new-zealand-win-will-sta...
>
> It looks like the "Freds" include the French public prosecutor...

And pretty much all of the French riders.

R

BLafferty

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Nov 3, 2010, 12:52:25 PM11/3/10
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On 11/3/2010 12:19 PM, Ben Trovato wrote:
> On Nov 3, 8:37 am, BLafferty<B...@nobody.com> wrote:
>> Oops. The Freds are wrong once again.http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-wants-new-zealand-win-will-sta...
>
> It looks like the "Freds" include the French public prosecutor...
>
> "Les deux hommes ont toujours refus� de s'expliquer devant le juge
> d'instruction, qui va au-del� des r�quisitions du minist�re public. Le
> parquet de Nanterre estimait pour sa part que rien ne d�montrait la

> participation de Landis au piratage du Laboratoire national de
> d�pistage du dopage et de l'Agence fran�aise de lutte contre le dopage

I can easily understand why you selectively quote L'Equipe.
Here's the complete article.

Soup�onn�s d'avoir obtenu ill�galement des documents du Laboratoire
national de d�pistage du dopage (LNDD) afin de contester les r�sultats
montrant que Floyd Landis s'�tait dop� lors du Tour de France 2006, le
cycliste am�ricain et son entra�neur Arnie Baker ont �t� renvoy�s devant
le tribunal correctionnel de Nanterre dans un volet d'une affaire de
piratage informatique qui concerne �galement Greenpeace.

Floyd Landis et Arnie Baker, qui sont vis�s par un mandat d'arr�t
international, devront �tre jug�s pour "recel d'intrusion frauduleuse
dans un syst�me de traitement automatis�", a indiqu� Me Fr�d�rik-Karel
Canoy, avocat sp�cialis� dans la d�fense des petits actionnaires de
Vivendi, partie civile dans un autre volet du dossier. Les deux hommes
ont toujours refus� de s'expliquer devant le juge d'instruction, qui va
au-del� des r�quisitions du minist�re public. Le parquet de Nanterre
estimait pour sa part que rien ne d�montrait la participation de Landis
au piratage du Laboratoire national de d�pistage du dopage et de
l'Agence fran�aise de lutte contre le dopage (AFLD) en 2006

Ben Trovato

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Nov 3, 2010, 5:50:43 PM11/3/10
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On Nov 3, 9:52 am, BLafferty <B...@nobody.com> wrote:
> On 11/3/2010 12:19 PM, Ben Trovato wrote:
>
> > On Nov 3, 8:37 am, BLafferty<B...@nobody.com>  wrote:
> >> Oops. The Freds are wrong once again.http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-wants-new-zealand-win-will-sta...
>
> > It looks like the "Freds" include the French public prosecutor...
>
> > "Les deux hommes ont toujours refus de s'expliquer devant le juge
> > d'instruction, qui va au-del des r quisitions du minist re public. Le
> > parquet de Nanterre estimait pour sa part que rien ne d montrait la
> > participation de Landis au piratage du Laboratoire national de
> > d pistage du dopage et de l'Agence fran aise de lutte contre le dopage
> > (AFLD) en 2006."
>
> > -http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves2010/20101102_223246_des-soucis-...

>
> I can easily understand why you selectively quote L'Equipe.
> Here's the complete article.
>
> Soup onn s d'avoir obtenu ill galement des documents du Laboratoire
> national de d pistage du dopage (LNDD) afin de contester les r sultats
> montrant que Floyd Landis s' tait dop lors du Tour de France 2006, le
> cycliste am ricain et son entra neur Arnie Baker ont t renvoy s devant
> le tribunal correctionnel de Nanterre dans un volet d'une affaire de
> piratage informatique qui concerne galement Greenpeace.
>
> Floyd Landis et Arnie Baker, qui sont vis s par un mandat d'arr t
> international, devront tre jug s pour "recel d'intrusion frauduleuse
> dans un syst me de traitement automatis ", a indiqu Me Fr d rik-Karel
> Canoy, avocat sp cialis dans la d fense des petits actionnaires de
> Vivendi, partie civile dans un autre volet du dossier. Les deux hommes
> ont toujours refus de s'expliquer devant le juge d'instruction, qui va
> au-del des r quisitions du minist re public. Le parquet de Nanterre
> estimait pour sa part que rien ne d montrait la participation de Landis
> au piratage du Laboratoire national de d pistage du dopage et de
> l'Agence fran aise de lutte contre le dopage (AFLD) en 2006

I provided a link, didn't I? And I cited the portion that indicates
that the French public prosecutor didn't see any point in bringing
charges against Floyd. All the articles cite Frederik-Karel Canoy, who
in fact has scant connection with the Landis case. It was Canoy's
representation of small shareholders in the Vivendi affair that
allegedly made him the target of hacker Alain Quiros, the same hacker
who's accused of breaking into the lab's computers. In other words,
we do not have an official source indicating that a trial is on the
docket. Naturellement, cela ne t'empechera pas de colporter des
ragots. Tout de bon.

RicodJour

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Nov 3, 2010, 7:29:23 PM11/3/10
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On Nov 3, 5:50 pm, Ben Trovato <benn.trov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Naturellement, cela ne t'empechera pas de colporter

I love Cole Porter. It's De-lovely is wonderful. I didn't know AFLD
was trying to get in on his act, but then again everybody was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9nQJU68ujM

R

Brad Anders

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Nov 3, 2010, 11:36:26 PM11/3/10
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On Nov 3, 8:37 am, BLafferty <B...@nobody.com> wrote:
> Oops. The Freds are wrong once again.http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-wants-new-zealand-win-will-sta...

Must be painful, seeing Armstrong's vanquisher, indicted prior to the
Anti-Christ being brought to divine justice. I bleed for you.

Brad Anders

Fred Fredburger

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Nov 4, 2010, 12:29:12 AM11/4/10
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BLafferty wrote:
> Oops. The Freds are wrong once again.
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-wants-new-zealand-win-will-stand-trial-in-france
>

Wrong? About what?

You said Landis was going to get jail time, that he wouldn't get jail
time, that he'd be prosecuted and that he wouldn't because they wouldn't
extradite him. Was it some piece of that that someone argued with or was
it some different position?

This is the problem with being a candyass, Brian. You end up being right
once and wrong a dozen times on every topic.

Beloved Fred No. 1

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Nov 4, 2010, 5:30:36 AM11/4/10
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Brad Anders wrote:
> I bleed for you.

Kindly ensure the haemocrit level abides by rbr standards of at least 50.

BLafferty

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Nov 4, 2010, 10:06:15 AM11/4/10
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LOL!

Plano Dude

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Nov 4, 2010, 3:12:50 PM11/4/10
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On Nov 3, 10:37 am, BLafferty <B...@nobody.com> wrote:
> Oops. The Freds are wrong once again.http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-wants-new-zealand-win-will-sta...

Will the Armstrong legal/publicity team have as much sympathy for
Floyd? Not that Floyd would necessarily understand any better if the
trial was in English.

"How he was served struck me as a little peculiar," Miller told the
Los Angeles Times. "It was effected on a guy at a charity ride who was
going to leave Texas for a vacation with his girlfriend. A guy from
Ukraine who doesn't speak great English and didn't really understand
what was going on.

Beloved Fred No. 1

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Nov 4, 2010, 4:59:49 PM11/4/10
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Plano Dude wrote:
> "How he was served struck me as a little peculiar," Miller told the
> Los Angeles Times. "It was effected on a guy at a charity ride who was
> going to leave Texas for a vacation with his girlfriend. A guy from
> Ukraine who doesn't speak great English and didn't really understand
> what was going on.

I don't suppose L's trial is going to be held in an attic ?

BLafferty

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Nov 4, 2010, 7:07:54 PM11/4/10
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I'm certain that the government had a translator ready to assist Popo in
the grand jury room. Does Miller speak Ukrainian?

RicodJour

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Nov 4, 2010, 8:39:39 PM11/4/10
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About as well as you comprehend English.

R

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